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I was thinking about this. On the one hand, the nicest thing he could do is decide soon, so the team can move on.
What's this decide soon stuff? Reportedly, he informed Caldwell the day after their last game, and Caldwell told him to take some time to think it over.
Yep, and reportedly the Lions want him back at a reduced rate.
Stick it to 'em Calvin. Force them to cut you loose so you can team up with Belicheck, Brady & Gronk and make a run at a SB. Everyone knows he doesn't need the money so he can easily sign there for a 1 or maybe 2 year deal. He can go out a rich, winner instead of retiring a rich, loser.
FYP
Lol
It's almost like there's a business negotiation happening or something.Lol
Johnson: 2015 was my last season.
Lions: tell you what, we'll take you back at a reduced rate.
Johnson:
If he doesn't want to play @ $16M, he probably isn't interested at <$16M. Just guessing.
His ankles are shot. But sorry you have him in dynasty.It's almost like there's a business negotiation happening or something.Lol
Johnson: 2015 was my last season.
Lions: tell you what, we'll take you back at a reduced rate.
Johnson:
If he doesn't want to play @ $16M, he probably isn't interested at <$16M. Just guessing.
FYPBelicheck,Brady & GronkCam & Olsen and make a run at a SB. Everyone knows he doesn't need the money so he can easily sign there for a 1 or maybe 2 year deal. He can go out a rich, winner instead of retiring a rich, loser.
Not a heavily owned guy at all. I don't really have a dog in the fight.
Add him to Benjamin/Olsen/Funchess, and their intramural hoops team would be da bomb.FYPBelicheck,Brady & GronkCam & Olsen and make a run at a SB. Everyone knows he doesn't need the money so he can easily sign there for a 1 or maybe 2 year deal. He can go out a rich, winner instead of retiring a rich, loser.
Business negotiation? How does talking about retiring work as a negotiating tactic for Johnson?It's almost like there's a business negotiation happening or something.Lol
Johnson: 2015 was my last season.
Lions: tell you what, we'll take you back at a reduced rate.
Johnson:
If he doesn't want to play @ $16M, he probably isn't interested at <$16M. Just guessing.
if car wins the sb, everyone gets a raise, so how do they afford him?Add him to Benjamin/Olsen/Funchess, and their intramural hoops team would be da bomb.FYPBelicheck,Brady & GronkCam & Olsen and make a run at a SB. Everyone knows he doesn't need the money so he can easily sign there for a 1 or maybe 2 year deal. He can go out a rich, winner instead of retiring a rich, loser.
Here's how:if car wins the sb, everyone gets a raise, so how do they afford him?Add him to Benjamin/Olsen/Funchess, and their intramural hoops team would be da bomb.FYPBelicheck,Brady & GronkCam & Olsen and make a run at a SB. Everyone knows he doesn't need the money so he can easily sign there for a 1 or maybe 2 year deal. He can go out a rich, winner instead of retiring a rich, loser.
Here's a nice read regarding this:Business negotiation? How does talking about retiring work as a negotiating tactic for Johnson?It's almost like there's a business negotiation happening or something.Lol
Johnson: 2015 was my last season.
Lions: tell you what, we'll take you back at a reduced rate.
Johnson:
If he doesn't want to play @ $16M, he probably isn't interested at <$16M. Just guessing.
If what he really wants is to be cut, then just say nothing about retiring, and decline to renegotiate the existing contract.
If what he really wants is some sort of extension, then again, say nothing about retiring and engage the Lions on re-working the contract.
Good info from Schefty. Thanks.
That's slightly misleading. First off, they are already accounting for $24M of those dollars on their cap today, so it's "only" $5M more. Second off, they may opt not to structure it that way. Here's how it breaks down:
That's the whole problem, the Lions are planning on not carrying that that cap number. They don't want to pay him that much. The worst case scenario is holding 11 mill in cap space for a player that may not play. 11 mill is two good starters.Hankmoody said:
massraider said:Here's how:grateful zed said:if car wins the sb, everyone gets a raise, so how do they afford him?Add him to Benjamin/Olsen/Funchess, and their intramural hoops team would be da bomb.FYPBelicheck,Brady & GronkCam & Olsen and make a run at a SB. Everyone knows he doesn't need the money so he can easily sign there for a 1 or maybe 2 year deal. He can go out a rich, winner instead of retiring a rich, loser.
Carolina has no cap issues next year. I was just horsing around regarding CJ to Carolina, but it's doable, especially if he was willing to play for 8-10 mill.
- Roughly 19 mill under the cap next year
- Can clear 19 mill in cap space by cutting Jared Allen and Charles Johnson
can we say dynasty?
This was probably the most amazing thing I have read on FBG. You nailed it. Prior to your post I didn't think there was anyway he would retire.
They'll go 8-8 next year after winning the big one.massraider said:Here's how:grateful zed said:if car wins the sb, everyone gets a raise, so how do they afford him?Add him to Benjamin/Olsen/Funchess, and their intramural hoops team would be da bomb.FYPBelicheck,Brady & GronkCam & Olsen and make a run at a SB. Everyone knows he doesn't need the money so he can easily sign there for a 1 or maybe 2 year deal. He can go out a rich, winner instead of retiring a rich, loser.
Carolina has no cap issues next year. I was just horsing around regarding CJ to Carolina, but it's doable, especially if he was willing to play for 8-10 mill.
- Roughly 19 mill under the cap next year
- Can clear 19 mill in cap space by cutting Jared Allen and Charles Johnson
that will get them in the playoffs from that division.They'll go 8-8 next year after winning the big one.massraider said:Here's how:grateful zed said:if car wins the sb, everyone gets a raise, so how do they afford him?Add him to Benjamin/Olsen/Funchess, and their intramural hoops team would be da bomb.FYPBelicheck,Brady & GronkCam & Olsen and make a run at a SB. Everyone knows he doesn't need the money so he can easily sign there for a 1 or maybe 2 year deal. He can go out a rich, winner instead of retiring a rich, loser.
Carolina has no cap issues next year. I was just horsing around regarding CJ to Carolina, but it's doable, especially if he was willing to play for 8-10 mill.
- Roughly 19 mill under the cap next year
- Can clear 19 mill in cap space by cutting Jared Allen and Charles Johnson
3 of their 4 starters in the defensive backfield are UFAs after the Super Bowl: Norman, Harper, and Tillman. Along with backup CB Finnegan. Others they might want to bring back include Tolbert, Remmers, Love, and Alexander.Here's how:if car wins the sb, everyone gets a raise, so how do they afford him?Add him to Benjamin/Olsen/Funchess, and their intramural hoops team would be da bomb.FYPBelicheck,Brady & GronkCam & Olsen and make a run at a SB. Everyone knows he doesn't need the money so he can easily sign there for a 1 or maybe 2 year deal. He can go out a rich, winner instead of retiring a rich, loser.
Carolina has no cap issues next year. I was just horsing around regarding CJ to Carolina, but it's doable, especially if he was willing to play for 8-10 mill.
- Roughly 19 mill under the cap next year
- Can clear 19 mill in cap space by cutting Jared Allen and Charles Johnson
That's the way I see it. He's being as nice as possible but he's played for incompetent coaching his whole career and pretty much been a loser his whole NFL career. He wants out of Detroit.
I am guessing his signing bonus.
Peyton was about to get cut if he did not retire and he did not want to go out that way, was not doing anyone a favor.
The lions could save something like 11 million if he retires or is cut. Him prolonging his decision does hurt the franchise
Don't disagree which is why I said for him personally. For Calvin he's be better off forcing the teams hand to release him so if/when he wants to play he's a FA.
