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'Walton Goggins said:
Curious what your guys thoughts are regarding owning two top tier QB's with CAM being one of them. I have Rodgers and CAM, in first place and in a league were it seems like only one other team wants to do trades I really would like to trade CAM for someone. You guys think Fred Jackson for him is fairly even? I may start up a thread in the other forum but curious what you guys have gotten for him or what you gave up for him or what you've seen in your leagues if CAM was traded.ETA: In my redraft league (only 10 teams) CAM is #3 overall scorer and only 5 pts back from the #1 scorer - Rodgers
I am about to reject a trade offer of Frank Gore for Cam straight up (my other QB is Romo). It's a keep 2 league, though, but you can only keep a player for two additional years after you draft him and you can't keep anyone drafted in the first three rounds. So, Cam could be kept at 8th round value for the next two seasons. If this were a redraft league, I would have strongly considered it.
Def would keep CAM over Gore in a keeper type league.Unless Fred Jackson lays an egg this weekend, he will be the #2 overall RB in my league
 
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I traded CAM for Andre Johnson when I have Stafford. I am regretting that trade now since he would have taken Stafford as well. This was back in week 4/5.

 
Top 10 THIS year?
#1 player in all of fantasy this year imo
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You pick any one player. I'll take Newton. We can bump this thread at the end of the year.
brady :football:
Midseason bump?I will note that Cam has not yet had his bye week, so I'm being a bit disingenuous in posting this, but my league's top players:1. Cam(189.37)2. Rogers(184.38)3. CJ(169.90)4. Brees(168.49)5. McCoy(160.70)6. ADP(160.30)7. F Jackson(156.90)8. Stafford(154.16)9. Welker(150.44)10. Brady(149.94)
 
Midseason bump?I will note that Cam has not yet had his bye week, so I'm being a bit disingenuous in posting this, but my league's top players:1. Cam(189.37)2. Rogers(184.38)
Interesting. What is your scoring? Do you penalize for INTs or fumbles lost?My league is 6pt passing TDs, but even if I "correct" it for 4pt passing TDs, Rodgers is still out-scoring Cam.
 
Midseason bump?I will note that Cam has not yet had his bye week, so I'm being a bit disingenuous in posting this, but my league's top players:1. Cam(189.37)2. Rogers(184.38)
Interesting. What is your scoring? Do you penalize for INTs or fumbles lost?My league is 6pt passing TDs, but even if I "correct" it for 4pt passing TDs, Rodgers is still out-scoring Cam.
We only do 4 points for TD's & Newton is #1 in my two leagues as well. Rodgers is ahead in points per game though. 7 Rushing TD's is huge for Newton.
 
Midseason bump?I will note that Cam has not yet had his bye week, so I'm being a bit disingenuous in posting this, but my league's top players:1. Cam(189.37)2. Rogers(184.38)
Interesting. What is your scoring? Do you penalize for INTs or fumbles lost?My league is 6pt passing TDs, but even if I "correct" it for 4pt passing TDs, Rodgers is still out-scoring Cam.
We only do 4 points for TD's & Newton is #1 in my two leagues as well. Rodgers is ahead in points per game though. 7 Rushing TD's is huge for Newton.
Yeah, I think it is our extra deduction for "fumbles lost" that has him behind in my league.
 
I just want to give Chase Stuart some props for starting this thread, even though he was way off by calling Cam a "high upside QB2". As it turns out, Cam is a high upside QB1

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Cosell Talks: Cam Newton’s Remarkable Transition

by Greg Cosell

Editor’s Note: Cam Newton was WIRED FOR SOUND in the Panthers’ Week 16 win over Tampa Bay. Before you hear Newton tonight on Inside the NFL & SoundFX, here’s Greg Cosell’s take on the rookie quarterback’s transformation from Auburn to Carolina.

Cam Newton has had an unprecedented first season in the NFL. The reason is not what you’d expect. We all know he broke Peyton Manning’s rookie record for passing yardage, but that’s simply the statistical narrative. The far more impressive element is how he did it. No quarterback has exhibited such a dramatic difference in the method of his success from college to the NFL.

Newton was primarily a run option quarterback at Auburn, where we all saw the big arm and the occasional NFL throw. But high level quarterback play in the NFL results from playing primarily in the pocket because NFL offenses are based on passing the football: a skill that demands dropping back, planting your back foot, and delivering the ball with accuracy to the right receiver at the right time. Because he wasn’t consistently asked to do this in college, it was unknown if Newton could make the transition from runner to passer quickly. Without the benefit of an off-season it seemed even less likely that he could adapt in time for his rookie year.

What was remarkable about Newton was he demonstrated many of these traits of an NFL passer right away. Beginning in Week 1 against Arizona, he read coverage, he knew where to go with the football, he was decisive and accurate. The next week he played the Super Bowl champion Packers and was truly impressive, showing NFL attributes beginning with poise and composure in the pocket. More importantly, he did not leave the pocket to run when the bodies started closing it down. He stood tall and delivered the ball in the face of pressure. He showed the willingness to make stick throws into tight windows, a necessary trait in critical long yardage situations against sophisticated NFL coverages.

Again, considering the way Newton was asked to play quarterback at Auburn, he was now performing in a totally unexpected and unforeseen way: he was throwing the ball effectively from the pocket; he was not impatient or hurried; he was not running, unless he had absolutely no choice or it was a designed play call. This continued as the season progressed. He improved significantly as a progression reader. This was particularly evident off play action, when it is imperative to snap your head around off the run fake and locate the coverage quickly.

Certainly there were inconsistencies and bad plays; he went through a difficult stretch of games in which he was wild high and missed too many routine throws. He had moments when he did not read the coverage correctly and forced throws.

But ultimately Newton has succeeded this season the only way that NFL quarterbacks consistently can, by throwing the ball well from the pocket. That would not have seemed likely as recently as August. Now, by demonstrating a combination of arm talent and pocket command, there’s no question that Newton has a chance to be a special quarterback.

Published: December 28, 2011

Filed Under: Carolina Panthers, From the Desk of Greg Cosell, Greg Cosell, Inside the Game
 

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