Cam Newton (1 Viewer)

[mullenium]

Traded Daniel Thomas and Hasselbeck for Newton and Colston

guy had Rodgers and was hurting at RB depth

 

[flooredyas]

Recieved an offer of Lloyd and 10 "bucks" for him in my dynasty. I feel insulted.

 

[bonesman]

In the league I have Cam in he is untouchable. I haven't said as much, but I still haven't had any offers because it's just plain obvious in this format (16 team, contract... where Cam basically has the minimum salary for the maximum years) that this guy is unobtainium. I would love to sell hight but with the cap I couldn't get near his value in players/picks.

 

[TheFanatic]

I made a ridiculously monster offer for Cam and was turned down. I just made a smaller offer for Tom Brady and feel cheated that I didn't get Cam, despite paying less for Brady.

 

[Tango]

In the league I have Cam in he is untouchable. I haven't said as much, but I still haven't had any offers because it's just plain obvious in this format (16 team, contract... where Cam basically has the minimum salary for the maximum years) that this guy is unobtainium. I would love to sell hight but with the cap I couldn't get near his value in players/picks.

Same here; but for $15 out of $210. He stays at $15 next year and then, if all goes well, I sign him to $30 out of $210 in 2013 through to the 2015 season. Paired with Vick at $3 through 2012, it's a combination that is powerful and very difficult to breakup.Given these rules, there really isnt a player out there that I could move him for.

 

[The Doctor]

Traded Daniel Thomas and Hasselbeck for Newton and Colstonguy had Rodgers and was hurting at RB depth

 

[JB Breakfast Club]

I'm finally seeking to cash in my Cam chip...by trading Rodgers to make room for Cam as my every week QB. I believe!

 

[Sabertooth]

I made a ridiculously monster offer for Cam and was turned down. I just made a smaller offer for Tom Brady and feel cheated that I didn't get Cam, despite paying less for Brady.

I have Newton and I'd trade him straight up for Brady in a heartbeat.

 

[davearm]

I'm finally seeking to cash in my Cam chip...by trading Rodgers to make room for Cam as my every week QB. I believe!

I've been trying to trade Cam + a WR for Rodgers in a redraft. Maybe this week the Rodgers owner will go for it.

 

[biggamer3]

Where were all the haters at?

 

[Eastwood]

Where were all the haters at?

As a NC native I hated the pick on draft day. But it only took 1 week for me to realize this wasn't Russell part 2. He's the real deal, and has turned around the franchise. I know they don't care about moral victories, but this team is VERY close to being a winner right now. It wouldn't surprise me if by next year, they are considered one of the favorites coming into 2012. I think they need to get an elite WR in the draft (Justin Blackmon would be nice), and then this offense will be down right scary.

 

[jbz]

Seems like the D is still a problem.

 

[heckmanm]

Offer just received from the highest-scoring team in the league. 16-team contract keeper league.

- His 2012 1st rookie pick (probably in the #15-16 range) - we do a 2-round rookie-only draft first

- His 2012 1st veteran pick (again, probably #15-16)

- Da'Rell Scott

For

- My 2012 2nd rookie pick (probably around #5)

- My 2012 9th veteran pick

- Cam Newton

There's no way I'm getting enough value from the 15th-best rookie and 15th-best (non-kept) veteran to make this deal. If his picks were potentially in the top 3 or 4, maybe, but this was a pretty easy decision.

 

[heckmanm]

In the league I have Cam in he is untouchable. I haven't said as much, but I still haven't had any offers because it's just plain obvious in this format (16 team, contract... where Cam basically has the minimum salary for the maximum years) that this guy is unobtainium. I would love to sell hight but with the cap I couldn't get near his value in players/picks.

I feel similarly. We don't have a cap, but rookies can be carried "free" for 2 years, then be given a contract of 1-4 years more. So I have a potential monster QB through 2016.See above for the first trade I've turned down. Most of my team sucks this year, so I'm fire-sale-ing some assets for 2012 picks and looking to build around him for 2012.

 

[Concept Coop]

Where were all the haters at?

 

[shnikies]

To give you an idea of current value. I'm in a 2 flex .5 ppr redraft where obviously quarterbacks are less valuable relative to standard league. I'm lacking depth at running back and receiver and I was lucky enough to pick Tebow up preemptively a week ago. So, I moved Newton for A.J. Green and Torain. People should also understand that trading a quarterback is pretty difficult because teams either have a top 6 or 7 qb, two top 12 quarterbacks or are in denial that they are weak at the position. Also, finding a team that's both willing to trade for a quarterback and also have the depth at other positions is another problem you run into.

 

[Englishteacher]

Start 1 QB, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1d, 1k

QB's get 1 point per 25 yards passing and rushing combined... 6 points all td's

12 man, keep 6 dynasty.... 72 players kept year to year

Just traded Romo, Michael Turner, Jason WItten and 2012 1st and second round picks for Newton, Gore, and Gates

 

[OU#1]

Where were all the haters at?

As a NC native I hated the pick on draft day. But it only took 1 week for me to realize this wasn't Russell part 2. He's the real deal, and has turned around the franchise. I know they don't care about moral victories, but this team is VERY close to being a winner right now. It wouldn't surprise me if by next year, they are considered one of the favorites coming into 2012. I think they need to get an elite WR in the draft (Justin Blackmon would be nice), and then this offense will be down right scary.

Blackmon will be going to St. Louis. Sorry.OU to OSU connection FTMFW

 

[NYCelt]

Traded cutler, megatron and CJ for Cam, AJ Green and Matthews. 14 team redraft basic rules. He also has Vick. Caused a stir this AM.

 

[shnikies]

Traded cutler, megatron and CJ for Cam, AJ Green and Matthews. 14 team redraft basic rules. He also has Vick. Caused a stir this AM.

Seems like a pretty good deal if you got the Cam side.

 

[NYCelt]

I got Cam side of deal. This morning the message board lit up saying I gave megatron away. I am commish as well so they wanted to veto it. After I asked them to all send me their best offer it quieted down and three flip-flopped saying I won out. I thought it was a good deal for both sides.

 

[moderated]

After I asked them to all send me their best offer it quieted down and three flip-flopped saying I won out.

Nice move, way to shut the whiners up.

 

[De Novo]

To give you an idea of current value. I'm in a 2 flex .5 ppr redraft where obviously quarterbacks are less valuable relative to standard league. I'm lacking depth at running back and receiver and I was lucky enough to pick Tebow up preemptively a week ago. So, I moved Newton for A.J. Green and Torain. People should also understand that trading a quarterback is pretty difficult because teams either have a top 6 or 7 qb, two top 12 quarterbacks or are in denial that they are weak at the position. Also, finding a team that's both willing to trade for a quarterback and also have the depth at other positions is another problem you run into.

This is certainly the truth in 10 teamers. Less so in 12 and 14 teamers.

 

[meeka]

Traded Cam and DMoore for DeSean Jackson. I'm happy.

 

[shnikies]

To give you an idea of current value. I'm in a 2 flex .5 ppr redraft where obviously quarterbacks are less valuable relative to standard league. I'm lacking depth at running back and receiver and I was lucky enough to pick Tebow up preemptively a week ago. So, I moved Newton for A.J. Green and Torain. People should also understand that trading a quarterback is pretty difficult because teams either have a top 6 or 7 qb, two top 12 quarterbacks or are in denial that they are weak at the position. Also, finding a team that's both willing to trade for a quarterback and also have the depth at other positions is another problem you run into.

This is certainly the truth in 10 teamers. Less so in 12 and 14 teamers.

It's obviously less so in 12 team leagues but when you consider it's a two flex league quarterbacks become less valuable relative to backs and receivers. Also if 10 teams including yourself each have one of the following: Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Newton, Rivers, Romo, Stafford, Vick, Roethlisberger, Schaub plus there's Ryan, Eli and teams can have two quarterbacks in QB1-QB2 range you're going to have trouble getting good value. Throw in the fact the team that desperately needs a qb either isn't willing to part with players or don't have the players to begin with to trade is another obstacle. It's also about timing, the team in your league that only has Big Ben may have started looking for another qb if he had another bad game but since he threw for 5 touchdowns they feel comfortable again.

 

[mcd]

To give you an idea of current value. I'm in a 2 flex .5 ppr redraft where obviously quarterbacks are less valuable relative to standard league. I'm lacking depth at running back and receiver and I was lucky enough to pick Tebow up preemptively a week ago. So, I moved Newton for A.J. Green and Torain. People should also understand that trading a quarterback is pretty difficult because teams either have a top 6 or 7 qb, two top 12 quarterbacks or are in denial that they are weak at the position. Also, finding a team that's both willing to trade for a quarterback and also have the depth at other positions is another problem you run into.

This is certainly the truth in 10 teamers. Less so in 12 and 14 teamers.

It's obviously less so in 12 team leagues but when you consider it's a two flex league quarterbacks become less valuable relative to backs and receivers. Also if 10 teams including yourself each have one of the following: Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Newton, Rivers, Romo, Stafford, Vick, Roethlisberger, Schaub plus there's Ryan, Eli and teams can have two quarterbacks in QB1-QB2 range you're going to have trouble getting good value. Throw in the fact the team that desperately needs a qb either isn't willing to part with players or don't have the players to begin with to trade is another obstacle. It's also about timing, the team in your league that only has Big Ben may have started looking for another qb if he had another bad game but since he threw for 5 touchdowns they feel comfortable again.

I was having the same problem. I had Rodgers, Stafford & Newton in a redraft & had been trying to trade one of the backups since week 3. Other owners are in denial about their QB situations. Tried moving Stafford for Maclin (#8 WR) & owner countered with Newton. I took it as it was the best offer I had received & I needed to move one of these QB's.

 

[Shermdog4444]

Sorry, really just bragging but before the first game this season I convinced myself that Newton was going to be legit due to articles about how hard he was working so I traded my 2013 1st rounder and Salas for Cam then once the season started and Cam showed he could be my #1 QB, I traded Brees away for Eli Manning and Peyton Hillis. Im pretty pleased with how my team is shaping up thanks to Cam.

 

[NeverEnough]

I turned down an offer of ADP, Freeman or Kolb & Lloyd for my Newton, Ridley & J. Jones.

Non-PPR keeper league. Maybe I'm dumb as I do need a RB, but I like Newton more.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Traded Cam and DMoore for DeSean Jackson. I'm happy.

I never would have done that, but I'm not high on d-Jax at all.

 

[meeka]

Traded Cam and DMoore for DeSean Jackson. I'm happy.

I never would have done that, but I'm not high on d-Jax at all.

It was not easy, but Cam's points on my bench were not helping. D-Jax as a starter is much better than the sludge I had at WR #2 and 3. (DMoore, Gaffney, and Torry Smith for example)

 

[urbanhack]

To give you an idea of current value. I'm in a 2 flex .5 ppr redraft where obviously quarterbacks are less valuable relative to standard league. I'm lacking depth at running back and receiver and I was lucky enough to pick Tebow up preemptively a week ago. So, I moved Newton for A.J. Green and Torain. People should also understand that trading a quarterback is pretty difficult because teams either have a top 6 or 7 qb, two top 12 quarterbacks or are in denial that they are weak at the position. Also, finding a team that's both willing to trade for a quarterback and also have the depth at other positions is another problem you run into.

I know I probably could have got more, but I just moved him for J. Best in a PPR, long-TD bonus league. I just didn't see myself starting him over Rodgers and I needed RB help.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Impressive win today over Washington.

Wish I'd had the guts to start him, but the Washington Defense didn't seem like a favorable matchup.

 

[OU#1]

Impressive win today over Washington. Wish I'd had the guts to start him, but the Washington Defense didn't seem like a favorable matchup.

Are you nuts?!?!The only game he's been on my bench is week 1. Started him every week from there. He's unbenchable unless you got Rodgers or Brees....

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Impressive win today over Washington. Wish I'd had the guts to start him, but the Washington Defense didn't seem like a favorable matchup.

He's a must start at this point. he's proven twice now that 15 points in a week is his floor. That + the upside we've seen = stud

 

[Tango]

Impressive win today over Washington. Wish I'd had the guts to start him, but the Washington Defense didn't seem like a favorable matchup.

Are you nuts?!?!The only game he's been on my bench is week 1. Started him every week from there. He's unbenchable unless you got Rodgers or Brees....

Hmmm, Vick? Brady? I went Newton>Vick last week. I havent done a full sked analysis, bit I'll usually be starting Vick going fwd.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Wish I'd had the guts to start him

Are you nuts?!?!

Went with Romo vs. the Rams.I guess I am nuts.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Impressive win today over Washington. Wish I'd had the guts to start him, but the Washington Defense didn't seem like a favorable matchup.

Are you nuts?!?!The only game he's been on my bench is week 1. Started him every week from there. He's unbenchable unless you got Rodgers or Brees....

Hmmm, Vick? Brady? I went Newton>Vick last week. I havent done a full sked analysis, bit I'll usually be starting Vick going fwd.

If you started Vick over Newton every week thus far, you would have made the wrong decision 5 weeks out of 6

 

[Tango]

Impressive win today over Washington. Wish I'd had the guts to start him, but the Washington Defense didn't seem like a favorable matchup.

Are you nuts?!?!The only game he's been on my bench is week 1. Started him every week from there. He's unbenchable unless you got Rodgers or Brees....

Hmmm, Vick? Brady? I went Newton>Vick last week. I havent done a full sked analysis, bit I'll usually be starting Vick going fwd.

If you started Vick over Newton every week thus far, you would have made the wrong decision 5 weeks out of 6

Sigh...we could play this little game all day. Victor Cruz has outscored Larry Fitzgerald, so that makes Cruz>Fitz going forward? We could do dozens of silly things like that. Come on. Cam's great and Im thrilled I have him in a 5 year contract dynasty, but Cam or Vick will be a tough decision every week; likely leaning to Vick.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Impressive win today over Washington. Wish I'd had the guts to start him, but the Washington Defense didn't seem like a favorable matchup.

Are you nuts?!?!The only game he's been on my bench is week 1. Started him every week from there. He's unbenchable unless you got Rodgers or Brees....

Hmmm, Vick? Brady? I went Newton>Vick last week. I havent done a full sked analysis, bit I'll usually be starting Vick going fwd.

If you started Vick over Newton every week thus far, you would have made the wrong decision 5 weeks out of 6

Sigh...we could play this little game all day. Victor Cruz has outscored Larry Fitzgerald, so that makes Cruz>Fitz going forward? We could do dozens of silly things like that. Come on. Cam's great and Im thrilled I have him in a 5 year contract dynasty, but Cam or Vick will be a tough decision every week; likely leaning to Vick.

Sigh...if Cruz outscores Fitz 5 weeks out of 6, then yes, the situation might need to be investigated further. Since Cruz has only outscored Fitz twice despite having more total points, your analogy is ridiculous.

 

[Tango]

Sigh...if Cruz outscores Fitz 5 weeks out of 6, then yes, the situation might need to be investigated further. Since Cruz has only outscored Fitz twice despite having more total points, your analogy is ridiculous.

investigated further? Oh yes, Im absolutely against that. Reach much?

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Sigh...if Cruz outscores Fitz 5 weeks out of 6, then yes, the situation might need to be investigated further. Since Cruz has only outscored Fitz twice despite having more total points, your analogy is ridiculous.

investigated further? Oh yes, Im absolutely against that. Reach much?

Dude, I don't really give a crap if you start Vick, knock yourself out. You're going to be wrong a few more times this year, but hey, you're good at that roll eyes thingy, so there's that.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Are you nuts?!?!

BTW, thanks for the memories last night. -Sincerely, a Texas Tech homer.

 

[zoonation]

Tango getting owned in here...

 

[Tango]

Tango getting owned in here...

I know, right? I said Vick might start more games for me than Newton going forward. IVE BEEN OWNED.

 

[zoonation]

Tango getting owned in here...

I know, right? I said Vick might start more games for me than Newton going forward. IVE BEEN OWNED.

No...it is your failure to put together a logical argument to support your position and then being exposed for doing so and still not recognizing it.

 

[Tango]

Tango getting owned in here...

I know, right? I said Vick might start more games for me than Newton going forward. IVE BEEN OWNED.

No...it is your failure to put together a logical argument to support your position and then being exposed for doing so and still not recognizing it.

Schtick? or just good old flame?But heck, Ill play along wise one. Go read. Use quotes and state your argument. Try to show that I laid more than only three simple assertions none of which are controversial:1. Newton may not be as good as Brady or Vick2. That past performance is never a perfect correlation to future results3. That Im likely to start Vick more than Newton the rest of the year. (is that 60%? 55%? Not sure and said that beforehand)