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Can Quist win Montana? watch party inside (1 Viewer)
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timschochet
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Grace Under Pressure
Footballguy
Quist wasn't winning in Montana. They're not going to flip because "their guy" assaulted a reporter.
"In the last ten presidential elections Montana has voted Republican, except in 1992". - the Internet
No offense to Ryan Leaf and the other Montanians, but they don't vote for Democrats.
I do lament that there no longer seems to be disqualifying characteristics for candidates. I don't mind Republicans one bit. But Trump and this guy? Unfit. How these are not simple observations, that's what I lament.
"In the last ten presidential elections Montana has voted Republican, except in 1992". - the Internet
No offense to Ryan Leaf and the other Montanians, but they don't vote for Democrats.
I do lament that there no longer seems to be disqualifying characteristics for candidates. I don't mind Republicans one bit. But Trump and this guy? Unfit. How these are not simple observations, that's what I lament.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I'm guessing 1992's the last time a GOP candidate did as poorly as 50.2% though.
Dunno. Given the political leanings of most Millennials it's probably just a matter of time.
When those on the left who have engage in physical assaults on the political opposition issue a formal apology for their actions in the same manner Mr. Gianforte has you might actually have a point.
Grace Under Pressure
Footballguy
I see the false equivalency crew is out here supporting their dope with "look what other people do arrgrggh drool".
Thunderlips
Footballguy
If he were to resign...how would that seat be filled?
And I see the selective outrage crew continues to purposefully ignore the huge plank in their own eyes when it comes to politically motivated violence.
Dedfin
Footballguy
Not a perfect analog, or even a good one, but I bet some of the Buffalo Bills looked at their 1990 AFC champ ring and said "We were really close, we'll win next time." It's time to see some Ws. All these special elections and no wins.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
True, but like the KC district election a few weeks ago this bodes well for Dems in more competitive districts.
timschochet
Footballguy
It's very frustrating. But it is true that so far all of these special elections have been in places that are heavily red. If Ossoff can win that will make up for everything.
Grace Under Pressure
Footballguy
The thread is "Can Quist win Montana." Someone linked to a video to some completely unrelated protest in California. Because "false equivalency" has a few syllables in it, I'll break it down for you.
- The thread is about the Montana special election.
- Posters mentioning things unrelated to that election are deflecting the point, trying to change the subject, or can't focus on the thread topic.
- California is not in Montana.
Dr Oadi
Footballguy
Jeremy
Footballguy
Not the least of which is that it exposes the lie (again) that Republicans stand for some kind of "values". I realize 65-70% of the vote was already cast, but it's pretty clear the assault had little to no affect on those voting yesterday. Indeed many of them were more excited to vote for him because of it. "Values", "patriotism", "personal accountability". Are they gonna sell that message to 16 and 17 year olds getting ready to vote for the first time in 2018? My oldest is 15 and from his first day of preschool there have been anti bullying messages all over the walls. The older generation may embrace this crap, but I don't believe future ones will.
Grace Under Pressure
Footballguy
They are both beautiful places in their own right. The country is great because of both.
Coach Morris Buttermaker
Footballguy
Huh? They have had a Democratic governor for the last 10+ years. They have a democratic senator (had 2 from 2006-14)
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
IMO, It's not really fair to compare Rob Ford to crooked politicians. The guy wasn't really crooked I don't think; he had a drug problem. And it wasn't just a district supporting him....he was mayor of the entire city.
Plus, he left us with Norm, who is a national treasure.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
It's the same to me. Here in NO we had a crackhead DA, it's the same story, crooked, drunk, high or stupid, it's on the voters.
squistion
Footballguy
Exactly. About 65% of the votes were early and we can't assume that his win = approval of his actions.
Actually, 6 months ago when he ran for governor he didn't endorse and didn't align with Trump. Since then he did a 180. I wouldn't call him a die-hard, I'd call him a politician that does what it takes to get elected.
timschochet
Footballguy
Anyone who aligns themselves with Trump but actually knows better is, IMO, worse than a true believer.
squistion
Footballguy
I dunno about that. Here in California, Darrell Issa has represented the 49th congressional district since 2001. He hasn't attacked any reporters but has made some crazy statements over the years, yet he keeps winning reelection (although narrowly last time).
timschochet
Footballguy
cosjobs
Footballguy
Interesting opinion piece by Palmer
Greg Gianforte wins Montana election, but Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell just got body slammed
By Bill Palmer
Updated: 1:53 am EDT Fri May 26, 2017 | 0
Home » Opinion
If Montana Republican candidate Greg Gianforte had body slammed that reporter a week earlier, he’d probably have lost the election. But with the incident taking place the night before election day, and so many early votes having already been cast, it turns out Gianforte won by a few points. Several major news outlets have now called the race in his favor. This is not the outcome the Democrats wanted. But it’s really not the outcome the Republican Party leadership wanted.
For those liberals and Democrats nationwide who are disappointed by Rob Quist’s defeat, stop and consider how remarkable it is that the Democratic candidate was in close contention in a state as red as Montana. And if that’s not enough of a consolation prize, chew on this: Republican House leader Paul Ryan, and by extension Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell, are now stuck with Greg Gianforte in Washington DC for the next two years. This might be the most unintentional gift the Democrats have ever been given.
In the short term, the Republican Party leadership is stuck with the specter of a new Republican Congressman arriving in Washington while he’s facing assault charges back home. If Gianforte had lost, his cartoonish story might have been forgotten in a week. But now he’s an albatross hanging around the necks of Ryan and McConnell. The story of the Republican body slammer will refuse to die. And he’s now the poster boy for everything that the Democrats want to point out is wrong with the Trump-era Republican Party.
Every day from now until the midterms, the Democrats in Congress can and will point to a violent thug like Greg Gianforte being the new face of the Republican Party. After all, he’ll be sitting right there in Congress. Sure, Donald Trump is unstable. But his new Republican sidekick Gianforte is so unstable, he tries to kill people.
Not only will the Democrats use Gianforte’s embarrassing presence in the House as a way of pushing back against Trump, they’ll also use it as a battering ram against the Republican Party in the midterms. It’s a safe bet Paul Ryan is waking up today wishing Greg Gianforte had lost.
Greg Gianforte wins Montana election, but Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell just got body slammed
By Bill Palmer
Updated: 1:53 am EDT Fri May 26, 2017 | 0
Home » Opinion
If Montana Republican candidate Greg Gianforte had body slammed that reporter a week earlier, he’d probably have lost the election. But with the incident taking place the night before election day, and so many early votes having already been cast, it turns out Gianforte won by a few points. Several major news outlets have now called the race in his favor. This is not the outcome the Democrats wanted. But it’s really not the outcome the Republican Party leadership wanted.
For those liberals and Democrats nationwide who are disappointed by Rob Quist’s defeat, stop and consider how remarkable it is that the Democratic candidate was in close contention in a state as red as Montana. And if that’s not enough of a consolation prize, chew on this: Republican House leader Paul Ryan, and by extension Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell, are now stuck with Greg Gianforte in Washington DC for the next two years. This might be the most unintentional gift the Democrats have ever been given.
In the short term, the Republican Party leadership is stuck with the specter of a new Republican Congressman arriving in Washington while he’s facing assault charges back home. If Gianforte had lost, his cartoonish story might have been forgotten in a week. But now he’s an albatross hanging around the necks of Ryan and McConnell. The story of the Republican body slammer will refuse to die. And he’s now the poster boy for everything that the Democrats want to point out is wrong with the Trump-era Republican Party.
Every day from now until the midterms, the Democrats in Congress can and will point to a violent thug like Greg Gianforte being the new face of the Republican Party. After all, he’ll be sitting right there in Congress. Sure, Donald Trump is unstable. But his new Republican sidekick Gianforte is so unstable, he tries to kill people.
Not only will the Democrats use Gianforte’s embarrassing presence in the House as a way of pushing back against Trump, they’ll also use it as a battering ram against the Republican Party in the midterms. It’s a safe bet Paul Ryan is waking up today wishing Greg Gianforte had lost.
Dedfin
Footballguy
Do you mean like this one? How about this guy?
In fairness, red states do have a history of voting in Democrats who physically strong-arm people as well.
