Can your all-time team beat my all-time team? (1 Viewer)

[Gottabesweet]

Buffalo Bills:

Coach: Marv Levy

QB-Jim Kelly

RB-Thurman Thomas

FB- Sam Gash

WR- Andre Reed

WR -Jerry Butler

TE- Pete Metzelaars

T's- Howard Ballord, Joe Devlin

G's- Joe Delamielleure, Jim Ritcher

C- Kent Hull

DE's - Bruce Smith, Ron McDole

DT- Fred Smerlas, Tom Sestak

LB - Jim Haslett

LB - Darrel Tailey

LB - Mike Stratton

CB- Butch Byrd

CB- Nate Clements

SS - Steve Freeman

FS- Henry Jones

K - Steve Christie

P - Brian Moorman

ST- Steve Tasker

 

[E-A-G-L-E-S]

Some othersE Fred DeanLB Billy Ray SmithC Don MacekQB John HadlK John CarneyThe DBs are terrible.

I considered all of those (except for Macek, who might deserve to make it). Courtney Hall is another option there.I left off Dean and Carney mostly because of their association with other teams (SF and NO).Smith and Edwards was a tough decision. I kinda flipped a coin. We could add a fourth LB though.Fouts over Hadl (and Kemp and Humphries) seemed like an easy choice to me.Chargers have some pretty impressive depth at RB though: Muncie, Butts, Means, Bernstein, Lincoln, Lowe, Harmon as a 3rd down back.Anthony Miller and John Jefferson warrant consideration at WR.Alfred Pupunu would be a worthy 3rd TE.

From the original Chargers postI wouldn't call the LBs weak, Seau is a hall of famer, Merriman has had a hall of fame start to his career, and Edwards is a multiple pro bowler. The DBs are not the greatest, but Harrison can hold his own with any safetyThat offense is tough to beatYou forgot Lionel "Little Train" James as a potential returnerJames Brooks was also in their past stable of RBs

 

[Despyzer]

You forgot Lionel "Little Train" James as a potential returnerJames Brooks was also in their past stable of RBs

NICE! I did completely forget about Little Train. He was quite the multi-threat back. All of the Chargers' return records are held by Duncan, Gordon, Lincoln, and Andre Coleman though.Brooks had a fantastic rookie year, but I think pretty much everyone would consider him a Bengal.

 

[MarshallRob]

MIAMI DOLPHINS

QB: Dan Marino

FB: Larry Csonka

RB: Mercury Morris

OT: Richmond Webb, Norm Evans

OG: Larry Little, Bob Kuechenberg

C: Dwight Stephenson

WR: Paul Warfield, Mark Clayton

TE: Keith Jackson

DE: Jason Taylor, Bill Stanfill

DT: Bob Baumhower, Doug Betters

OLB: Zach Thomas, John Offerdahl

MLB: Nick Buoniconti

CB: Sam Madison, Patrick Surtain

S: Jake Scott, **** Anderson

K: Garo Yepremian

P: Reggie Roby

Coach: Don Shula

Went with Mercury Morris over Ricky Williams. Morris only had a few good years before he hurt his neck but for 1972-1973 he ran for almost 2000 yards, scored 22 TD's, and had a 5.8 YPC. His speed was the perfect compliment to Csonka's power. Hard to see Ricky getting along with Csonka. Yepremian was on the NFL's All-70's team so he beats out Stoynavich and Mare. Plus, "he keeck a touchdown". Clearly this team has most of its stars on offense. The defensive line might be this team's weak spot but Betters was defensive player of the year in 1983 and Baumhower and Stanfill made 5 Pro Bowls. Some people think Stanfill was headed for the Hall of Fame before his career ended early due to a spinal injury.

It's hard to see anyone stopping this offense. The offensive line is probably stronger up the middle than anyone else's all-time team. You've got power and speed in the backfield. And maybe the greatest deep passing game ever if they need to throw the ball.

 

[MarshallRob]

Here's the Green Bay Packers:

QB Bart Starr

RB Paul Hornung

FB Jim Taylor

WR Don Hutson, James Lofton

TE Paul Coffman

C Jim Ringo

G Jerry Kramer, Fuzzy Thurston

T Forrest Gregg, Ken Ruettgers

DT Henry Jordan, Gilbert Brown

DE Willie Davis, Reggie White

LB Ray Nitshke, Dave Robinson, Fred Carr

S Willie Wood Leroy Butler

CB Herb Adderly, Willie Buchanon

K Ryan Longwell

P Craig Hentrich

KR/PR Desmond Howard

Coach: Vince Lombardi

Actually, I got this list from this 2002 Football Digest Article that selects an All-Time team for every NFL franchise. Actually, they had Favre as the Green Bay QB but I substituted Starr. (Yeah, that's right. You got a problem with a 5-time champion, MVP, and 2-time Super Bowl MVP?)

 

[Chase Stuart]

And maybe the greatest deep passing game ever if they need to throw the ball.

John Gilliam and Randy Moss would be a pretty darn good pair of deep threats, too. Might give those guys a run for their money.

 

[Dentist]

Coach - I think I'd take Schottenheimer.. but Hank Stram warrants mentioning

QB - Len Dawson

RB - Priest Holmes/Christian Okoye - Larry might be close

FB - Barry Word

WR - Otis Taylor

WR - Stephone Paige (weak at WR2 - would Rison or Kennison be better?)

TE - Tony Gonzalez

LT - Willie Roaf

LG - Ed Budde

C - Jack Rudnay

RG - Will Shields

RT - John Alt

- this is a pretty damn good line, good QB/TE and GREAT RB's... bad WR2 though

K - Jan Stenereud - the only hall of Fame K (nick lowery close!)

P - Jerrell Wilson

Def.

DT's - Bill Maas, Buck Buchanan

DE - Neil Smith, Art Still

OLB - Derrick Thomas, Bobby Bell

MLB - Willie Lanier

CB's - Lloyd Burress, Emmitt Thomas

S - Derron Cherry, Johnny Robinson

I think this team would hold its own, but probably lose to Dallas, Pitt, Miami, and San Francisco

 

[Gamese7en]

Dallas Cowboys (not a Dallas homer, just a long time fan. Too many great players to pick just 25)Coach: Tom LandryQB: Roger StaubachRB: Emmitt SmithFB: Herschel WalkerWR: Michael IrvinWR: Lance AlworthTE: Mike DitkaOT: Erik WilliamsOG: Larry AllenOC: Mark StepnoskiOG: Nate NewtonOT: Rayfield WrightDE: Ed "Too Tall" JonesDT: Bob LillyDT: Randy WhiteDE: Harvey MartinLB: Chuck HowlyLB: Lee Roy JordanLB: Bob BreunigCB: Mel RenfroCB: Herb AdderlyS : Charlie WatersS : Cliff HarrisReturner: Deion SandersK : Raphael Septien

ok.....explain to me how a guy that caught 49 passes and scored 4 touchdowns in his Cowboy career can be even CONSIDERED as a all-time Cowboy? That is almost as bad as picking Ditka as tight end. Novacek had almost as many catches in one year as Ditka did in all of his years as a Cowboy. And I am pretty sure I would rather have a late 20s Deion Sanders than a early 30s Herb Adderley at cornerback. And if it came down to picking between Charlie Waters and Darren Woodson that would no-brainer....

 

[Gamese7en]

you know....using logic like that would mean that OJ Simpson would be the greatest 49er runner and Johnny U would be the Chargers QB.

 

[MarshallRob]

Dallas Cowboys (not a Dallas homer, just a long time fan. Too many great players to pick just 25)Coach: Tom LandryQB: Roger StaubachRB: Emmitt SmithFB: Herschel WalkerWR: Michael IrvinWR: Lance AlworthTE: Mike DitkaOT: Erik WilliamsOG: Larry AllenOC: Mark StepnoskiOG: Nate NewtonOT: Rayfield WrightDE: Ed "Too Tall" JonesDT: Bob LillyDT: Randy WhiteDE: Harvey MartinLB: Chuck HowlyLB: Lee Roy JordanLB: Bob BreunigCB: Mel RenfroCB: Herb AdderlyS : Charlie WatersS : Cliff HarrisReturner: Deion SandersK : Raphael Septien

ok.....explain to me how a guy that caught 49 passes and scored 4 touchdowns in his Cowboy career can be even CONSIDERED as a all-time Cowboy? That is almost as bad as picking Ditka as tight end. Novacek had almost as many catches in one year as Ditka did in all of his years as a Cowboy. And I am pretty sure I would rather have a late 20s Deion Sanders than a early 30s Herb Adderley at cornerback. And if it came down to picking between Charlie Waters and Darren Woodson that would no-brainer....

Bob Hayes or Drew Pearson deserve Alworth's spot.

 

[The Kansas Comet]

New York Football Giants

Phil Simms

Tiki Barber

Frank Gifford

Mark Bavaro

Homer Jones

Del Shofner

Mel Hein

Rosey Brown

Cal Hubbard

Ray Wietecha

Jack Stroud

Andy Robustelli

Jim Katcavage

Michael Strahan

Lawrence Taylor

Harry Carson

Sam Huff

Jessie Armstead

Emlen Tunnell

Jimmy Patton

Spider Lockhart

Erich Barnes

Sean Landeta

Pete Gogolak

David Meggett

Edit for Coaches: HC - Steve Owen, OC - Vince Lombardi, DC - Tom Landry

Close but no cigar...Conerly, Tarkenton, Tittle, Leemans, Strong, Hampton, Morris, Tucker, Shockey, Toomer, Rote, Oates, Henry, Weinmeister, Grier, Marshall, Martin, VanPelt, Banks, Lynch, Haynes, Williams, Daluiso, Chandler...

I would have taken Banks over Armstead - I thought that guy's greatness was simply overshadowed by LT's dominance.

 

[Sam Quentin]

MIAMI DOLPHINSCB: Sam Madison, Patrick SurtainS: Jake Scott, **** Anderson

That secondary is scary good

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Here's the Green Bay Packers:

QB Bart Starr

RB Paul Hornung

FB Jim Taylor

WR Don Hutson, James Lofton

TE Paul Coffman

C Jim Ringo

G Jerry Kramer, Fuzzy Thurston

T Forrest Gregg, Ken Ruettgers

DT Henry Jordan, Gilbert Brown

DE Willie Davis, Reggie White

LB Ray Nitshke, Dave Robinson, Fred Carr

S Willie Wood Leroy Butler

CB Herb Adderly, Willie Buchanon

K Ryan Longwell

P Craig Hentrich

KR/PR Desmond Howard

Coach: Vince Lombardi

Actually, I got this list from this 2002 Football Digest Article that selects an All-Time team for every NFL franchise. Actually, they had Favre as the Green Bay QB but I substituted Starr. (Yeah, that's right. You got a problem with a 5-time champion, MVP, and 2-time Super Bowl MVP?)

Good selections all even with multiple HOFers left off. Hell, the Packers second team could beat most of the teams out there.

 

[bro1ncos]

Broncos

QB - Elway

RB - Terrell Davis(great for a short period of time gets nod over Floyd Little)

FB - Howard Griffth

WR - Rod Smith

WR - Lionel Taylor

TE - Shannon SHarpe

T - Gary Zimmerman and Ken Lanier

G - Paul Howard and Mark Schlereth

C - Tom Nalen

DE - Simon Fletcher and Rich Jackson

DT - Rubin Carter and Greg Kragen

OLB - Tom Jackson and Karl Mecklenberg

MLB - Randy Gradishar

CB - Champ Bailey and Louis Wright

S - Steve Atwater and Dennis Smith

K - Jason Elam

P - Tom ROuen

KR - Rick Upchurch

 

[Z-Dog]

I'm sure Ive got some holes, but let's give it a go:New York JetsQB: Joe NamathRB: Curtis MartinFB: Richie AndersonWR1: Don MaynardWR2: Wesley WalkerTE: Mickey ShulerLT: Jumbo ElliotLG: Pete KendallC: Kevin MawaeRG: ?RT: Karim McKenzieDE: John AbrahamDT: Marty LyonsDT: Abdul Salaam (Jason Ferguson?)DE: Mark GastineuLB: Jonathan VilmaLB: Mo LewisLB: Kyle CliftonCB: Aaron GlennCB: James HastyFS: Kerry Rhodes (Erik McMillan?)SS: Victor GreenK: Pat LeahyP: Tom Tupa

What about Al Toon?

Joe Klecko?

That was the first thing I thought of when I saw that list.

Most of the picks are what I would pick too...It's hard to take out Maynard or Wesley Walker, but Keyshawn's time with the jets...well he was pretty dominant.Bruce Harper would be my pick as KR/PRI would have marvin Powell as one of my tackles over Jumbo or Kareem.

Receiver was the hardest position. Three guys who I left off but didn't want to were Toon, Keyshawn and Rob Moore. My thinking was that Walker was a much better big-play threat than Toon, and had a significantly longer career. Keyshawn Johnson had four nice years, but I think Laveranues has surpassed all of them and should be on this list. Moore had his best years with Arizona, and I've tried to leave off guys who were awesome somewhere else (John Riggins, anyone?)Klecko should be on ahead of Salaam.I'm ok with Powell ahead of either. Truth is that at T, both of those guys did more/are doing more off the NYJ than on. At returner there have been a lot of excellent guys, including Chad Morton, Terrance Mathis and Santana Moss. But the truth is that if I had to pick a ST player, I would probably take Chris Burkett.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Steelers

QB: Terry Bradshaw

RB: Franco Harris

FB: Rocky Bleier

WR: Lynn Swann

WR: John Stallworth

TE: Eric Green

LT: Jon Kolb

LG: Alan Faneca

C: Mike Webster

RG: Gary Mullins

RT: Tunch Ilkin

DE: L.C. Greenwood

DT: Joe Greene

DT: Ernie Stautner

DE: Dwight White

OLB: Jack Ham

MLB: Jack Lambert

OLB: Greg Lloyd

SS: Troy Polamalu

FS: Donnie Shell

CB: Rod Woodson

CB: Mel Blount

K: Gary Anderson

P: Craig Colquitt

Returner: Antwaan Randle El

Perfection.

I don't have time to think about the Raiders right now. I'm too busy picking apart your list at the moment. I'd put Hines Ward in over Swann, assuming this team has to play a 16-game season.

At FB, Bleier was all heart, granted, but you HAVE to have had a better option over the years. John Henry Johnson, perhaps? Lastly, besides Webster and Faneca, that O-line looks strangely average.

I actually forgot about John Henry Johnson... good call.Personally, I'd want Hines Ward in there a lot, but it's just so hard to bump the other 2 for him... he'd definetly be the #3 WR if I could choose that. But I'm sure just about every other all-time Steeler team would have Swann+Stallworth, so I figure I should just go with what the vast majority of my fellow Steeler fans say.

Agree about the Steeler o-line though... The other 3 were all pretty good players, but not really elite. But I couldn't really find any standout o-linemen other than Webster, faneca, and Dawson (who was a Center, the spot Webster already has) so I went with 70's linemen in 2 out of the other 3 spots just because they were on the dynasty Steelers, so hell they had to be at least pretty good, haha.

Maybe John Jackson, Wayne Gandy or Leon Searcy at tackle?

Carlton Haselrig was the man before he went nuts.

I say we move Dermontti Dawson to G. And that defense is sick. Can anyone match up, especially at the LB position? Hell, the backups at LB (Andy Russell, Jason Gildon, Joey Porter, Levon Kirkland, Kevin Greene) could compete with most team's starters.

 

[TD Ryan]

here's a shot at The New England Patriots:

QB: Tom Brady (Steve Grogan)

RB: Curtis Martin (Jim Nance)

FB: Mosi Tatupu (Sam Gash)

WR: Stanley Morgan (Troy Brown)

WR: Gino Cappelletti (Irving Fryar)

TE: Ben Coates (Russ Francis, Marv Cook)

T: Bruce Armstrong, Leon Grey

G: John Hannah, Brian Holloway

DE: Richard Seymour

DE: Willie McGinnest

NT: Vince Wilfork

LB: Andre Tippett

LB: Nick Buoniconti

LB: Steve Nelson

LB: Ted Bruschi

CB: Michael Haynes

CB: Ty Law

S: Lawyer Milloy

S: Fred Marion

P: Rich Camarillo

K Adam Vinatieri

Coach: Bill Belichick

 

[Exile]

here's a shot at The New England Patriots:

QB: Tom Brady (Steve Grogan)

RB: Curtis Martin (Jim Nance)

FB: Mosi Tatupu (Sam Gash)

WR: Stanley Morgan (Troy Brown)

WR: Gino Cappelletti (Irving Fryar)

TE: Ben Coates (Russ Francis, Marv Cook)

T: Bruce Armstrong, Leon Grey

G: John Hannah, Brian Holloway

DE: Richard Seymour

DE: Willie McGinnest

NT: Vince Wilfork

LB: Andre Tippett

LB: Nick Buoniconti

LB: Steve Nelson

LB: Ted Bruschi

CB: Michael Haynes

CB: Ty Law

S: Lawyer Milloy

S: Fred Marion

P: Rich Camarillo

K Adam Vinatieri

Coach: Bill Belichick

This is a good list. A few comments:FB: Mosi was a fan favorite, but rarely a starter...he was a "team guy" and speacial teamer mostly. Gash was good...but not a Patriot for that long. What about Tony Collins? He was more of a receiver than a blocker but he put up some good numbers on the better 80's Pats teams.

C: You don't have one listed...might I suggest Pete Brock.

DE/LB: I like how you avoided the dilemma of having 5 worthy LBs (by putting McGinnest at DE where he started his career in the 4-3), but it has the downside of bumping Julius Adams off the team.

NT: I resisted the idea of Wilfork at NT because he's so young, but when you look at it...there hasn't been a lot of great players at that spot over the years. It's usually been some over achieving guy like Tim Goad. So, yeah, Wilfork it is.

CB: I prefer Raymond Claybord over Michael Haynes...but I'm probably biased because he finished his career with the Raiders.

S: My only big disagreement is not including Rodney Harrison at safety. He was, IMO, the most important piece of the defense on two of our 3 Super Bowl winners. Tough choice between cutting Milloy or Marion, though.

Finally, I'd also add a Returner/Utility guy - and that's where Troy Brown makes the team.

 

[TD Ryan]

Exile,

wow. can you believe I just plain out forgot Rodney Harrison?

and I meant to put Dan Koppen at Center.

Tony Collins over Mosi? I don't like it because I love Mosi, but you do make a good point.

as for Ray Clay over Michael Haynes... Haynes is in the Pro Football HOF and I have to go with him.

for me the most interesting part is where Bledsoe fits in compared to Grogan. I think some Pats fans will still feel that Grogan deserves to be the #2 guy behind Brady.

leaving out Julius Adams hurt, but I didn't know how to get him in the lineup.

NE had some good teams in the mid 70's and mid 80's, but really we're in the glory days right now so a lot of the current players are/will be on the "All Time" teams.

 

[Despyzer]

wow. can you believe I just plain out forgot Rodney Harrison?

I can believe it. He spent nine years as a Charger and only four as a Patriot, and he's missed 19 games during those four seasons.

 

[snellman]

Minnesota Vikings

Head Coach: Bud Grant

QB: Fran Tarkenton

RB: Robert Smith

FB: Chuck Foreman (Should be RB, but big enough to be a threat at FB)

WR: Cris Carter

WR: Anthony Carter

WR: Ahmad Rashad

TE: Steve Jordan

T: Ron Yary

G: Randal Mcdaniel

C: Matt Birk or Jeff Christy (take your pick)

G: David Dixon (Just Because, cant remember alot of the older OL)

T: Gary Zimmerman

Defense:

DE: Carl Eller

DT: Alan Page

DT: John Randle

DE: Jim Marshall

LB: Scott Studwell

LB: Jack Del Rio

LB: Ed McDaniel

CB: Antoine Winfield

CB: ?

S: Joey Browner

S: Paul Krause

P: Greg Coleman

K: Jan Stenerud or Gary Anderson

Special Teams: Chris Walsh

Will gladly put this team against any of them out there.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Steelers

QB: Terry Bradshaw

RB: Franco Harris

FB: Rocky Bleier

WR: Lynn Swann

WR: John Stallworth

TE: Eric Green

LT: Jon Kolb

LG: Alan Faneca

C: Mike Webster

RG: Gary Mullins

RT: Tunch Ilkin

DE: L.C. Greenwood

DT: Joe Greene

DT: Ernie Stautner

DE: Dwight White

OLB: Jack Ham

MLB: Jack Lambert

OLB: Greg Lloyd

SS: Troy Polamalu

FS: Donnie Shell

CB: Rod Woodson

CB: Mel Blount

K: Gary Anderson

P: Craig Colquitt

Returner: Antwaan Randle El

Perfection.

I don't have time to think about the Raiders right now. I'm too busy picking apart your list at the moment. I'd put Hines Ward in over Swann, assuming this team has to play a 16-game season.

At FB, Bleier was all heart, granted, but you HAVE to have had a better option over the years. John Henry Johnson, perhaps? Lastly, besides Webster and Faneca, that O-line looks strangely average.

I actually forgot about John Henry Johnson... good call.Personally, I'd want Hines Ward in there a lot, but it's just so hard to bump the other 2 for him... he'd definetly be the #3 WR if I could choose that. But I'm sure just about every other all-time Steeler team would have Swann+Stallworth, so I figure I should just go with what the vast majority of my fellow Steeler fans say.

Agree about the Steeler o-line though... The other 3 were all pretty good players, but not really elite. But I couldn't really find any standout o-linemen other than Webster, faneca, and Dawson (who was a Center, the spot Webster already has) so I went with 70's linemen in 2 out of the other 3 spots just because they were on the dynasty Steelers, so hell they had to be at least pretty good, haha.

Maybe John Jackson, Wayne Gandy or Leon Searcy at tackle?

Carlton Haselrig was the man before he went nuts.

I say we move Dermontti Dawson to G. And that defense is sick. Can anyone match up, especially at the LB position? Hell, the backups at LB (Andy Russell, Jason Gildon, Joey Porter, Levon Kirkland, Kevin Greene) could compete with most team's starters.

Loved the over-achieving Donnie Shell but this secondary would be perfect with Carnell Lake. Guy could do it all. Larry Brown was a heck of a OT, I'd put him in there over Tunch.

 

[Tenacious D]

All time Chicago Bears team (you really cannot beat this HOF team....you just cannot):

QB: Sid Luckman (HOF'er)

RB: Walter Payton (HOF'er)

FB: Bronko Nagurski (HOF'er).....Bronko could play all 11 positions

WR: Willie Gault

WR: Keenan McCardell (he did play for this team once )

TE: Mike Ditka (HOF'er)

OT: Ed Healey (HOF'er)

OT: Joe Sydhar (HOF'er)

OG: Danny Fortman (HOF'er)

OG: Stan Jones (HOF'er)

C: Olin Kreutz (>5 time probowler)

DE: Richard Dent (Potential HOF'er)

DT: Richard Perry (Fridge)

DT: George Musso (HOF'er)

DE: Dan Hampton (HOF'er)

MLB: **** Butkus (HOF'er)

OLB: Mike Singletary (HOF'er)

OLB: Brian Urlacher (Potential HOF'er)

SS: Gary Fencik

FS: Mark Carrier

CB: Jim Finks (HOF'er)

CB: ? (Looking for input from other Bear fans)

PK: George Blanda (HOF'er)

P: Brad Maynard (why not )

And I could not even put in Gale Sayers, Otis Wilson, Wilbur Marshall, Red Grange, George Halas, Bill George, George Connor etc etc

You can find bios on the Bears HOF'ers here:

http://www.chicagobears.com/tradition/hof-atkins.html

This isn't a criticism of your offering specifically, but is the problem with making an all-time team - not having seen a lot of the guys play and comparing across generations, especially on the lines. It all depends on your criteria, but an Ed Healey was probably no more than 6' and 225 pounds...despite his HOF status, would we really trot him out opposite Michael Strahan if this was a "real" game. He's a good example of another problem here by simply relying on HOF status for older players. The Bears are one of the original teams and their owner, conceptually, founded the league. Not suprisingly they have a high number of HOF'ers. Healey wasn't a great college player, according to the own bio you're linking to, and college was king back then. I wonder how great he really was as a pro.So I fit Jimbo Covert in there somewhere. I also bump Danny Fortman and add 7-time Pro Bowler Jay Hilgenberg. One of him or Kreutz can play guard. Hard to leave off Mike Pyle or Bulldog Turner. The Bears actually have a great history, like at MLB, at center.

On the DLine, Doug Atkins has to be on there and Fridge is a joke, so this is easily resovled by sliding Danimal inside in place of him.

I don't know about the theory of playing two MLB's at OLB, so I go with Butkus in the middle and Urlacher outside, b/c he started there and bump Singletary in favor of Wilber Marshall, the most underrated LB of all-time.

Jim Finks is in the HOF as an administrator, not a player - and I don't think he ever played for the Bears as a player, so they need two corners. Leslie Frazier, JC Caroline, Donnell Woolford, who I always thought was underrated, or even Red Grange would be some choices. Tillman and Vasher are probably actually as good a choice as any.

McCardell is off at WR, Johnny Morris is on.

I'm also going to move Gary Fencik to FS and put Doug Plank in at SS. Duerson, Todd Bell, or Richie Petitbon are probably the better choice skill-wise, but with the addition of Plank, Wilber, and Atkins, this defense just got sufficiently nastier, which it desperately needed to be compared with that original lineup.

 

[Despyzer]

All time Chicago Bears team

WR: Keenan McCardell (he did play for this team once )

McCardell is off at WR, Johnny Morris is on.

Good plan. When exactly was McCardell a Bear anyway?

 

[davidwb]

the Baltimore team (no Indy players allowed):

offense:

QB: Johnny Unitas

RB: Jamal Lewis (Tom Matte?)

FB: Alan Ameche

WR: Raymond Berry

WR: Lenny Moore (flanker)

TE: John Mackey

OG: **** Szymanski

OG: Jim Parker

OT: Jon Ogden

OT: Bob Vogel

C: Bill Currey

defense:

DE: Gino Marchetti

DE: Bubba Smith

DT: Artie Donovan

DT: Big Daddy Lipscomb

LB: Ted Hendricks

LB: Ray Lewis

LB: Mike Curtis

CB: Bobbie Boyd

CB: Chris McAlister

FS: Ed Reed

SS: Lenny Lyles

PK: Matt Stover

KR: Jermiane Lewis

P: David Lee

A pretty solid team...Johnny U at QB and a great defense...I would match the LBs with anyone.

 

[Vikes Fan]

Minnesota Vikings

Head Coach: Bud Grant

QB: Fran Tarkenton

RB: Robert Smith Chuck Foreman has to be the RB

FB: Chuck Foreman (see RB) Bill "Boom Boom" Brown

WR: Cris Carter

WR: Anthony Carter Randy Moss

WR: Ahmad Rashad

TE: Steve Jordan

T: Ron Yary

G: Randal Mcdaniel

C: Matt Birk or Jeff Christy Mick Tingelhoff (I don't remember him myself, but the way my dad talked about him...)

G: David Dixon Dave Huffman

T: Gary Zimmerman

Defense:

DE: Carl Eller

DT: Alan Page

DT: John Randle

DE: Jim Marshall

LB: Scott Studwell

LB: Jack Del Rio Jeff Siemon (Lets go with Siemon being he played in 4 pro bowls and 3 Super Bowls)

LB: Ed McDaniel Matt Blair

CB: Antoine Winfield

CB: Carl Lee

S: Joey Browner

S: Paul Krause

P: Greg Coleman

K: Jan Stenerud or Gary Anderson

Special Teams: Chris Walsh David Palmer

Will gladly put this team against any of them out there.

You did a good job. I made a few changes...I have a hard time leaving Korey Stringer out as a Tackle, but the two guys you listed were too good to leave off.

Also notably absent from my adjusted list (Although you got a few of them originally):

Birk

Cristy

Del Rio

A. Carter

R. Smith

Keith Millard

Chris Doleman

Tim Irwin

Mark Mullaney (Most non-Vikings fans won't remember this beast of a DT from the 80s)

Dave Casper (Yes, he spent a season in purple)

Tommy Kramer

Wade Wilson

Fred Cox

Hershel Walker

 

[snellman]

Minnesota Vikings

Head Coach: Bud Grant

QB: Fran Tarkenton

RB: Robert Smith Chuck Foreman has to be the RB

FB: Chuck Foreman (see RB) Bill "Boom Boom" Brown

WR: Cris Carter

WR: Anthony Carter Randy Moss

WR: Ahmad Rashad

TE: Steve Jordan

T: Ron Yary

G: Randal Mcdaniel

C: Matt Birk or Jeff Christy Mick Tingelhoff (I don't remember him myself, but the way my dad talked about him...)

G: David Dixon Dave Huffman

T: Gary Zimmerman

Defense:

DE: Carl Eller

DT: Alan Page

DT: John Randle

DE: Jim Marshall

LB: Scott Studwell

LB: Jack Del Rio Jeff Siemon (Lets go with Siemon being he played in 4 pro bowls and 3 Super Bowls)

LB: Ed McDaniel Matt Blair

CB: Antoine Winfield

CB: Carl Lee

S: Joey Browner

S: Paul Krause

P: Greg Coleman

K: Jan Stenerud or Gary Anderson

Special Teams: Chris Walsh David Palmer

Will gladly put this team against any of them out there.

You did a good job. I made a few changes...I have a hard time leaving Korey Stringer out as a Tackle, but the two guys you listed were too good to leave off.

Also notably absent from my adjusted list (Although you got a few of them originally):

Birk

Cristy

Del Rio

A. Carter

R. Smith

Keith Millard

Chris Doleman

Tim Irwin

Mark Mullaney (Most non-Vikings fans won't remember this beast of a DT from the 80s)

Dave Casper (Yes, he spent a season in purple)

Tommy Kramer

Wade Wilson

Fred Cox

Hershel Walker

Very Nice changes. Now that you typed it, I remember my dad talking about Tinglehoff also. I had a very hard time leaving Doleman off that list, but there is no way you can replace Eller or Marshall. I had Walsh on there more as honorary because of his all around reckless special teams play. As a Vikings fan, you should know that you should never mention Hershel Walker in the same sentence as an All-time Viking team.

 

[Englishteacher]

San Diego Chargers

Coach: Sid Gillman

QB - Dan Fouts

RB - LaDainian Tomlinson

FB - Lorenzo Neal

WRs - Lance Alworth, Wes Chandler, Charlie Joiner

TEs - Kellen Winslow, Antonio Gates

Ts - Doug Wilkerson, Ron Mix

Gs - Ed White, Walt Sweeney

C - Nick Hardwick?

DEs - Leslie O'Neal, Gary "Big Hands" Johnson

DTs - Jamal Williams, Louie Kelcher

LBs - Junior Seau, Shawne Merriman, Donnie Edwards

DBs - Gil Byrd, Les "Speedy" Duncan, Rodney Harrison, Stanley Richards

K - Rolf Benirschke

P - Darren Bennet

Returners - Darrien Gordon, Keith Lincoln (and Duncan)

I think that's a pretty dang good team - slight weakness among the linebackers and secondary, when comparing them to other all-time teams, but solid nonetheless for a team without too many winning seasons.

Good luck stopping the Chargers 2-TE formation with LT in the backfield.,S

That whole unit of skill position players is unreal.

 

[Englishteacher]

New York Football Giants

Phil Simms

Tiki Barber

Frank Gifford

Mark Bavaro

Homer Jones

Del Shofner

Mel Hein

Rosey Brown

Cal Hubbard

Ray Wietecha

Jack Stroud

Andy Robustelli

Jim Katcavage

Michael Strahan

Lawrence Taylor

Harry Carson

Sam Huff

Jessie Armstead

Emlen Tunnell

Jimmy Patton

Spider Lockhart

Erich Barnes

Sean Landeta

Pete Gogolak

David Meggett

Edit for Coaches: HC - Steve Owen, OC - Vince Lombardi, DC - Tom Landry

Close but no cigar...Conerly, Tarkenton, Tittle, Leemans, Strong, Hampton, Morris, Tucker, Shockey, Toomer, Rote, Oates, Henry, Weinmeister, Grier, Marshall, Martin, VanPelt, Banks, Lynch, Haynes, Williams, Daluiso, Chandler...

Nice defense but they'll probably have trouble rushing the passer.

 

[Englishteacher]

Minnesota Vikings

Head Coach: Bud Grant

QB: Fran Tarkenton

RB: Robert Smith Chuck Foreman has to be the RB

FB: Chuck Foreman (see RB) Bill "Boom Boom" Brown

WR: Cris Carter

WR: Anthony Carter Randy Moss

WR: Ahmad Rashad

TE: Steve Jordan

T: Ron Yary

G: Randal Mcdaniel

C: Matt Birk or Jeff Christy Mick Tingelhoff (I don't remember him myself, but the way my dad talked about him...)

G: David Dixon Dave Huffman

T: Gary Zimmerman

Defense:

DE: Carl Eller

DT: Alan Page

DT: John Randle

DE: Jim Marshall

LB: Scott Studwell

LB: Jack Del Rio Jeff Siemon (Lets go with Siemon being he played in 4 pro bowls and 3 Super Bowls)

LB: Ed McDaniel Matt Blair

CB: Antoine Winfield

CB: Carl Lee

S: Joey Browner

S: Paul Krause

P: Greg Coleman

K: Jan Stenerud or Gary Anderson

Special Teams: Chris Walsh David Palmer

Will gladly put this team against any of them out there.

You did a good job. I made a few changes...I have a hard time leaving Korey Stringer out as a Tackle, but the two guys you listed were too good to leave off.

Also notably absent from my adjusted list (Although you got a few of them originally):

Birk

Cristy

Del Rio

A. Carter

R. Smith

Keith Millard

Chris Doleman

Tim Irwin

Mark Mullaney (Most non-Vikings fans won't remember this beast of a DT from the 80s)

Dave Casper (Yes, he spent a season in purple)

Tommy Kramer

Wade Wilson

Fred Cox

Hershel Walker

Very Nice changes. Now that you typed it, I remember my dad talking about Tinglehoff also. I had a very hard time leaving Doleman off that list, but there is no way you can replace Eller or Marshall. I had Walsh on there more as honorary because of his all around reckless special teams play. As a Vikings fan, you should know that you should never mention Hershel Walker in the same sentence as an All-time Viking team.

 

[Emmitt Smith]

Dallas Cowboys (not a Dallas homer, just a long time fan. Too many great players to pick just 25)

Coach: Tom Landry

QB: Roger Staubach

RB: Emmitt Smith

FB: Herschel Walker Moose Jonston

WR: Michael Irvin

WR: Lance Alworth Terry Glenn

TE: Mike Ditka Jay Novacek

OT: Erik Williams

OG: Larry Allen

OC: Mark Stepnoski

OG: Nate Newton

OT: Rayfield Wright

DE: Ed "Too Tall" Jones Charles Haley

DT: Bob Lilly

DT: Randy White

DE: Harvey Martin

LB: Chuck Howly

LB: Lee Roy Jordan

LB: DeMarcus Ware

CB: Mel Renfro

CB: Herb Adderly Deion Sanders

S : Charlie Waters Darren Woodson

S : Cliff Harris Brock Marion

Returner: Deion Sanders

K : Raphael Septien

ok.....explain to me how a guy that caught 49 passes and scored 4 touchdowns in his Cowboy career can be even CONSIDERED as a all-time Cowboy? That is almost as bad as picking Ditka as tight end. Novacek had almost as many catches in one year as Ditka did in all of his years as a Cowboy. And I am pretty sure I would rather have a late 20s Deion Sanders than a early 30s Herb Adderley at cornerback. And if it came down to picking between Charlie Waters and Darren Woodson that would no-brainer....

Fixed.ETA- I'll put any of the 1992-1995 Dallas Cowboys teams against anybodies all time team and be confidentthe boys will win.

 

[pyite76]

DT: Richard Perry (Fridge)

William Perry.

 

[Vikes Fan]

Minnesota Vikings

Head Coach: Bud Grant

QB: Fran Tarkenton

RB: Robert Smith Chuck Foreman has to be the RB

FB: Chuck Foreman (see RB) Bill "Boom Boom" Brown

WR: Cris Carter

WR: Anthony Carter Randy Moss

WR: Ahmad Rashad

TE: Steve Jordan

T: Ron Yary

G: Randal Mcdaniel

C: Matt Birk or Jeff Christy Mick Tingelhoff (I don't remember him myself, but the way my dad talked about him...)

G: David Dixon Dave Huffman

T: Gary Zimmerman

Defense:

DE: Carl Eller

DT: Alan Page

DT: John Randle

DE: Jim Marshall

LB: Scott Studwell

LB: Jack Del Rio Jeff Siemon (Lets go with Siemon being he played in 4 pro bowls and 3 Super Bowls)

LB: Ed McDaniel Matt Blair

CB: Antoine Winfield

CB: Carl Lee

S: Joey Browner

S: Paul Krause

P: Greg Coleman

K: Jan Stenerud or Gary Anderson

Special Teams: Chris Walsh David Palmer

Will gladly put this team against any of them out there.

You did a good job. I made a few changes...I have a hard time leaving Korey Stringer out as a Tackle, but the two guys you listed were too good to leave off.

Also notably absent from my adjusted list (Although you got a few of them originally):

Birk

Cristy

Del Rio

A. Carter

R. Smith

Keith Millard

Chris Doleman

Tim Irwin

Mark Mullaney (Most non-Vikings fans won't remember this beast of a DT from the 80s)

Dave Casper (Yes, he spent a season in purple)

Tommy Kramer

Wade Wilson

Fred Cox

Hershel Walker

Very Nice changes. Now that you typed it, I remember my dad talking about Tinglehoff also. I had a very hard time leaving Doleman off that list, but there is no way you can replace Eller or Marshall. I had Walsh on there more as honorary because of his all around reckless special teams play. As a Vikings fan, you should know that you should never mention Hershel Walker in the same sentence as an All-time Viking team.

Rashad was highly underrated as a Viking WR. I would seriously give him the nod over Anthony Carter, and the guy I forgot to list before...Sammy White.

 

[chris1969]

I love seeing all the responses to this post. Picking an all-time team is tough. I don't know about you guys, but I had to leave a bunch of really great players of my list. A lot of them were HOFer's. After I made my list I had a lot of second thoughts...

Why did I pick A Davis over Pepper Johnson?

How can I pick the potential of Bentley over over the solid performance of Mike Baab?

Why isn't there a RB named Pruitt somewhere on this roster?

Was I right going with a 4-3 defense over a 3-4? Was the DL really better than the LB corp?

Other guys listed coaches, why didn't I mention Paul Brown?

Anyway, keep up all the great posts, there are a lot of really good teams posted so far.

 

[turkishkamel]

Detroit Lions

Coach: Buddy Parker

QB: Bobby Layne

RB: Barry Sanders, Billy Sims

FB: Corey Schlesinger

WR: Herman Moore

WR: Bret Perriman (soon to be Roy Williams)

TE: Charlie Sanders

OT: Lomas Brown, John Gordy

OG: Harley Sewell,

C: Kevin Glover

DE: Robert Porcher, Al Baker

DT: Shaun Rogers, Alex Karras, Luther Ellis

LB: Chris Spielman, Wayner Walker, Pat Swilling, Joe Schmidt

CB: Dre Bly, Lem Barney

S: **** "Night Train" Lane, Bennie Blades

K: Jason Hanson

Ret: Mel Gray

ST: Doak Walker (he played everywhere)

just a quick list

 

[Obie Wan]

I'm sure Ive got some holes, but let's give it a go:New York JetsQB: Joe NamathRB: Curtis MartinFB: Richie AndersonWR1: Don MaynardWR2: Wesley WalkerTE: Mickey ShulerLT: Jumbo ElliotLG: Pete KendallC: Kevin MawaeRG: ?RT: Karim McKenzieDE: John AbrahamDT: Marty LyonsDT: Abdul Salaam (Jason Ferguson?)DE: Mark GastineuLB: Jonathan VilmaLB: Mo LewisLB: Kyle CliftonCB: Aaron GlennCB: James HastyFS: Kerry Rhodes (Erik McMillan?)SS: Victor GreenK: Pat LeahyP: Tom Tupa

where's Joe Klecko?

 

[DrJ]

WR: Willie Gault

I'd take a pre injury Marcus Robinson over Gault.

 

[Raider Nation]

Detroit LionsCoach: Buddy Parker QB: Bobby LayneRB: Barry Sanders, Billy SimsFB: Corey SchlesingerWR: Herman MooreWR: Bret Perriman (soon to be Roy Williams)TE: Charlie SandersOT: Lomas Brown, John GordyOG: Harley Sewell, C: Kevin Glover

Ahhh yes. The rarely-used 2 tailback, 1 guard alignment. If I don't get to use Marcus Allen and Bo Jackson in the same backfield, the rest of you don't get to use two tailbacks together, either.And Roy is already better than Perriman EVER was.

 

[Kleck]

Seattle Seahawks

Rough to do because the team only has a 30 year history. Also, their best team was probably last year, but would have been the 1984 squad if Warner didn't blow his knee in week one.

QB: Dave Krieg

RB: Shaun Alexander

FB: John L. Williams

WR: Steve Largent, Brian Blades

TE: Itula Mili

OT: Walter Jones, Howard Ballard

OG: Steve Hutchinson, Bryan Millard

C: Blair Bush

DE: Jacob Green, Michael Sinclair

DT: Cortez Kennedy, Joe Nash

ILB: Fredd Young, Lofa Tatupu

OLB: Chad Brown, Terry Wooden

CB: Dave Brown, Marcus Trufant

S: Kenny Easley, John Harris

P: Rick Tuten

K: Josh Brown

KR: Bobby Joe Edmonds

Other Notables

QB Jim Zorn

QB Matt Hasselbeck

RB Curt Warner

RB Chris Warren

FB Mack Strong

WR Darrell Jackson

WR Joey Galloway

OG Edwin Bailey

DE Jeff Bryant

LB Keith Butler

LB Rufus Porter

CB Shawn Springs

S Eugene Robinson

 

[Chase Stuart]

WR: Steve Largent, Brian BladesOther NotablesWR Joey Galloway

Obviously Blades spent many more years there, but wasn't Galloway a good deal better at his peak?

 

[Raider Nation]

Shick!

How can you give the nod to Blades over D-Jax? Just sheer longevity?

BLADES - 156 games, 7620 yards, 34 TDs

JACKSON - 96 games, 6445 yards, 47 TDs

What am I missing?

 

[Raider Nation]

WR: Steve Largent, Brian BladesOther NotablesWR Joey Galloway

Obviously Blades spent many more years there, but wasn't Galloway a good deal better at his peak?

I thought that too, until I just looked it up.His "peak" wasn't as high as I remembered. He had 10 TDs one year and 12 another year, and he barely got over 1K yards three times. Funny, I remember him being really dominant, but the numbers say otherwise.Jackson is the call, IMO.

 

[Chase Stuart]

WR: Steve Largent, Brian BladesOther NotablesWR Joey Galloway

Obviously Blades spent many more years there, but wasn't Galloway a good deal better at his peak?

I thought that too, until I just looked it up.His "peak" wasn't as high as I remembered. He had 10 TDs one year and 12 another year, and he barely got over 1K yards three times. Funny, I remember him being really dominant, but the numbers say otherwise.Jackson is the call, IMO.

Each of Galloway's four years in Seattle were better than Jackson's four best years. Galloway ranked 5th, 9th, 13th and 14th; Jackson's best four years are 9th, 13th, 14th, 16th.

 

[Holy Roller]

Actually, they had Favre as the Green Bay QB but I substituted Starr. (Yeah, that's right. You got a problem with a 5-time champion, MVP, and 2-time Super Bowl MVP?)

When you're not starting the only three-time MVP in league history?? Yeah, I think I do.

 

[Kleck]

WR: Steve Largent, Brian BladesOther NotablesWR Joey Galloway

Obviously Blades spent many more years there, but wasn't Galloway a good deal better at his peak?

Personal preference. Galloway was a difference maker, but I'll never forgive him for absolutely ####### the Seahawks. He had an argument*, but sitting out all that time ruined a potentially good season. When he came back at the end of the year it was a freaking joke.I see Blades and Jackson as the same receiver, but Jackson has the benefit of playing in a better offense. Jackson is not a "special" receiver. Ask yourself honestly, have you ever seen him make a spectacular reception? Even one? I can't, and I've seen every down of every Seahawks game he's ever played in. Blades meant more to the team when he was here in Seattle. They suffered through some rough seasons. Jackson is just a good player on a very good team.* Galloway debate. He was promised a new contract by previous management. New management told him that they weren't going to be held to previous management promises. He held out. Team suffered a ton because of it.

 

[Raider Nation]

I see Blades and Jackson as the same receiver, but Jackson has the benefit of playing in a better offense. Jackson is not a "special" receiver. Ask yourself honestly, have you ever seen him make a spectacular reception? Even one? I can't, and I've seen every down of every Seahawks game he's ever played in.

Yes. Seattle @ Arizona a few years ago. Seattle won something like 35-0.Jackson made a great catch for a TD.

 

[Kleck]

I see Blades and Jackson as the same receiver, but Jackson has the benefit of playing in a better offense. Jackson is not a "special" receiver. Ask yourself honestly, have you ever seen him make a spectacular reception? Even one? I can't, and I've seen every down of every Seahawks game he's ever played in.

Yes. Seattle @ Arizona a few years ago. Seattle won something like 35-0.Jackson made a great catch for a TD.

No sweat. We have different definitions of spectacular reception.

 

[Kleck]

I see Blades and Jackson as the same receiver, but Jackson has the benefit of playing in a better offense. Jackson is not a "special" receiver. Ask yourself honestly, have you ever seen him make a spectacular reception? Even one? I can't, and I've seen every down of every Seahawks game he's ever played in.

Yes. Seattle @ Arizona a few years ago. Seattle won something like 35-0.Jackson made a great catch for a TD.

Of course this is a subjective sort of thing. How to make it objective? I double dog dare you to find a clip on the web of even one spectacular Jackson catch. Just one. To get your started I'll provide links to Youtube.Darrell Jackson @ Youtube - Sadly, the only clip you'll find there is from a video game.

Larry Fitzgerald @ Youtube - Quite the selection.

I'll stand by my statement that Jackson is far from a special talent. Very far.

 

[Raider Nation]

I see Blades and Jackson as the same receiver, but Jackson has the benefit of playing in a better offense. Jackson is not a "special" receiver. Ask yourself honestly, have you ever seen him make a spectacular reception? Even one? I can't, and I've seen every down of every Seahawks game he's ever played in.

Yes. Seattle @ Arizona a few years ago. Seattle won something like 35-0.Jackson made a great catch for a TD.

Of course this is a subjective sort of thing. How to make it objective? I double dog dare you to find a clip on the web of even one spectacular Jackson catch. Just one. To get your started I'll provide links to Youtube.Darrell Jackson @ Youtube - Sadly, the only clip you'll find there is from a video game.

Larry Fitzgerald @ Youtube - Quite the selection.

I'll stand by my statement that Jackson is far from a special talent. Very far.

Heh, that's the first place I checked when you first mentioned him.All I could find was an interview with him. Maybe there aren't many Seahwaks fans around.

 

[Kleck]

I see Blades and Jackson as the same receiver, but Jackson has the benefit of playing in a better offense. Jackson is not a "special" receiver. Ask yourself honestly, have you ever seen him make a spectacular reception? Even one? I can't, and I've seen every down of every Seahawks game he's ever played in.

Yes. Seattle @ Arizona a few years ago. Seattle won something like 35-0.Jackson made a great catch for a TD.

Of course this is a subjective sort of thing. How to make it objective? I double dog dare you to find a clip on the web of even one spectacular Jackson catch. Just one. To get your started I'll provide links to Youtube.Darrell Jackson @ Youtube - Sadly, the only clip you'll find there is from a video game.

Larry Fitzgerald @ Youtube - Quite the selection.

I'll stand by my statement that Jackson is far from a special talent. Very far.

Heh, that's the first place I checked when you first mentioned him.All I could find was an interview with him. Maybe there aren't many Seahwaks fans around.

As opposed to the flocks of Arizona and Pitt fans? Do you really believe that Jackson is a special talent? Or where you just looking to be difficult?