Carnell owners (1 Viewer)

[sholditch]

First off I'm not worried about Caddy's health or ability to produce. I am worried about Simms, who is simply a walking disaster that immediately puts his team in terrible positions that get them behind early and cause them to abandon the run game. Question is, how will this be solved? Will Simms ever get his confidence back? Is there anyone in TB that can take over if need be? Is Gradkowski the answer? But what should be done with Caddy in the meantime? I sat him in all leagues last week and will likely do the same until he produces, but are we looking at a colossal bust simply because his QB is looking as crappy as censorship?

 

[Steelnation]

Drop him and pick up Brandon Jacobs

 

[Usual21]

I traded him & Wayne for SJackson & Stallworth.

 

[code]

Drop him and pick up Brandon Jacobs

I didn't think this would get old, but boy has it ever...

 

[rascal]

I traded him & Wayne for SJackson & Stallworth.

Wow. That's a good deal.

 

[TheWick]

I traded him straight up for Reggie Wayne. We only have to start 1 RB and I have Gore, Foster, Maroney so it made it an easier decision.

 

[rupricht]

Simms is not at fault - it's the depleted O-line. Also he faced 2 great run D's. When those O-line starters are healthy his production will get back to normal. I'm trying to trade FOR him now.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

what to do?

 

[Usual21]

I traded him & Wayne for SJackson & Stallworth.

Wow. That's a good deal.

Thanks. Now I have another offer for Stallworth. The guy is offering Chambers. Don't know what to do yet.

 

[Capella]

Simms is not at fault - it's the depleted O-line. Also he faced 2 great run D's. When those O-line starters are healthy his production will get back to normal. I'm trying to trade FOR him now.

this is not true at all. The Oline was fantastic in pass pro yesterday against a good D. Simms missed his throwing lanes, missed open guys and was sporting the "I'm completely terrified" face every time he walked over to the sidelines to see Gruden. I've never seen a QB regress like he has from last year.The oline played really well yesterday. Don't blame them.

 

[dgreen]

I've never seen a QB regress like he has from last year.

Funny, we're saying the same thing in DC.:brunell:

 

[redman]

Simms is not at fault - it's the depleted O-line. Also he faced 2 great run D's. When those O-line starters are healthy his production will get back to normal. I'm trying to trade FOR him now.

this is not true at all. The Oline was fantastic in pass pro yesterday against a good D. Simms missed his throwing lanes, missed open guys and was sporting the "I'm completely terrified" face every time he walked over to the sidelines to see Gruden. I've never seen a QB regress like he has from last year.The oline played really well yesterday. Don't blame them.

How was their run blocking, or did it matter against a stacked line?

 

[packersfan]

I've never seen a QB regress like he has from last year.

I didn't think Simms was all that good last season so what he's doing now isn't really a big surprise to me.

 

[Capella]

Simms is not at fault - it's the depleted O-line. Also he faced 2 great run D's. When those O-line starters are healthy his production will get back to normal. I'm trying to trade FOR him now.

this is not true at all. The Oline was fantastic in pass pro yesterday against a good D. Simms missed his throwing lanes, missed open guys and was sporting the "I'm completely terrified" face every time he walked over to the sidelines to see Gruden. I've never seen a QB regress like he has from last year.The oline played really well yesterday. Don't blame them.

How was their run blocking, or did it matter against a stacked line?

Didn't really get much of a chance to get going. They had a few holes in the first quarter, one which, according to Gruden, Caddy missed pretty bad (he alluded to it, saying it would have been a big run) -- by the time Atl got ahead, they were daring Simms to throw, and he couldn't.

 

[zoos]

i mentioned in another thread that i didn't realize that paul hackett was O-coordinator for the bucs. he sucks. that can't be good for the offense.

what can you do? the only guy i could see someone trading for him would be lamont jordan, who doesn't necessarily face a better situation.

you could possibly package him and get back a lesser RB like kevin jones or julius jones and a middle-tier WR i guess, right?

i picked caddy because there wasn't much left at pick 10 and i don't necessarily regret it.

i am wondering, though, how it will get better with simms there.

i didn't think simms was that good last year, either. but he was good enough.

 

[Capella]

i mentioned in another thread that i didn't realize that paul hackett was O-coordinator for the bucs. he sucks. that can't be good for the offense.

Title only. He's the QB coach. Gruds calls the plays.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Simms is not at fault - it's the depleted O-line. Also he faced 2 great run D's. When those O-line starters are healthy his production will get back to normal. I'm trying to trade FOR him now.

this is not true at all. The Oline was fantastic in pass pro yesterday against a good D. Simms missed his throwing lanes, missed open guys and was sporting the "I'm completely terrified" face every time he walked over to the sidelines to see Gruden. I've never seen a QB regress like he has from last year.The oline played really well yesterday. Don't blame them.

Hi cappy,What do you think the long term outlook is for Simms? I wrote off week 1 to the defense. But yesterday worries me.

What do you think?

J

 

[Capella]

Simms is not at fault - it's the depleted O-line. Also he faced 2 great run D's. When those O-line starters are healthy his production will get back to normal. I'm trying to trade FOR him now.

this is not true at all. The Oline was fantastic in pass pro yesterday against a good D. Simms missed his throwing lanes, missed open guys and was sporting the "I'm completely terrified" face every time he walked over to the sidelines to see Gruden. I've never seen a QB regress like he has from last year.The oline played really well yesterday. Don't blame them.

Hi cappy,What do you think the long term outlook is for Simms? I wrote off week 1 to the defense. But yesterday worries me.

What do you think?

J

Tough to tell. I was big on him this offseason but he's fallen off the cliff -- which is odd based on all the glowing camp reports and his progression in the last 5-6 games last year.There's no other answers this year, so if the team wants to contend he has to get better. If they're 2-6 at some point, I imagine you'll be seeing the rookie.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I traded him & Wayne for SJackson & Stallworth.

I think you sold low on Caddy,I think you lost out on this trade.Things have a way of evening out.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

pray to God, Allah, Buddah. whomever.

 

[Hellfire Snail]

I traded him & Wayne for SJackson & Stallworth.

I think you sold low on Caddy,I think you lost out on this trade.Things have a way of evening out.

I like the trade. I'd rather have Jackson than Caddy, and at worst I see Stallworth as even with Wayne. However, I've believe that Stall will be a mega-stud in this offense since I heard of the trade. I think Stall is top ten this year...and easily at that.

 

[packersfan]

I traded him & Wayne for SJackson & Stallworth.

Wow. That's a good deal.

I agree. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Stallworth ended up being better than Wayne (he is already after two games) and I'd much rather have SJax at this stage than Cadillac. Very nice trade.

 

[Footballhead]

One would think TB would be trying to get Volek too. They better get that offense going because unlike previus years, the D is not there to bail out the O.

 

[Righetti]

try to trade him for Rudi Johnson

 

[Tommy Collins]

One would think TB would be trying to get Volek too. They better get that offense going because unlike previus years, the D is not there to bail out the O.

Was thinking the same thing. Or Schaub, I love that kid...

 

[zamboni]

One would think TB would be trying to get Volek too. They better get that offense going because unlike previus years, the D is not there to bail out the O.

I have to imagine the team regrets letting Griese go. He's no world-beater, but really had that offense going a few years ago.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Simms is not at fault - it's the depleted O-line. Also he faced 2 great run D's. When those O-line starters are healthy his production will get back to normal. I'm trying to trade FOR him now.

this is not true at all. The Oline was fantastic in pass pro yesterday against a good D. Simms missed his throwing lanes, missed open guys and was sporting the "I'm completely terrified" face every time he walked over to the sidelines to see Gruden. I've never seen a QB regress like he has from last year.The oline played really well yesterday. Don't blame them.

So what is up with Caddy? The Baltimore game didn't bother me. This Atlanta performance does. Is he just tentative right now?

 

[Jason Wood]

Simms is not at fault - it's the depleted O-line. Also he faced 2 great run D's. When those O-line starters are healthy his production will get back to normal. I'm trying to trade FOR him now.

this is not true at all. The Oline was fantastic in pass pro yesterday against a good D. Simms missed his throwing lanes, missed open guys and was sporting the "I'm completely terrified" face every time he walked over to the sidelines to see Gruden. I've never seen a QB regress like he has from last year.The oline played really well yesterday. Don't blame them.

Hi cappy,What do you think the long term outlook is for Simms? I wrote off week 1 to the defense. But yesterday worries me.

What do you think?

J

Tough to tell. I was big on him this offseason but he's fallen off the cliff -- which is odd based on all the glowing camp reports and his progression in the last 5-6 games last year.There's no other answers this year, so if the team wants to contend he has to get better. If they're 2-6 at some point, I imagine you'll be seeing the rookie.

Cappy,I remember reading several reports (Sporting News, Pasquarelli, PFW) this preseason that Simms was getting a reputation around the league as someone who could have his passes batted down very easily. I then read last week that the Bucs actually outfitted a tackling dummy with PVC pipes for outstretched arms to get Simms used to throwing through tall defenders; yet two weeks into the season he's getting more passes batted down than just about anyone I can remember. What's your thought on this? I mean he's what, 6'3" or 6'4" and didn't have much of a sidearm delivery that I recall. What's the explanation for his ratio of batted passes?

Wood

 

[Kleck]

Can we blame all these issues on offensive line play?

 

[Steelnation]

Drop him and pick up Brandon Jacobs

I didn't think this would get old, but boy has it ever...

"Barber had his right knee iced and wrapped after the game on Sunday. The injury is considered minor as of Monday, but Barber owners will want to check his practice time/injury status later in the week just to be safe. There are also reports that Barber has a bruised left arm being evaluated further on Monday. "Keep sleeping........Barber will break down this year, stay tuned......

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Simms is not at fault - it's the depleted O-line. Also he faced 2 great run D's. When those O-line starters are healthy his production will get back to normal. I'm trying to trade FOR him now.

this is not true at all. The Oline was fantastic in pass pro yesterday against a good D. Simms missed his throwing lanes, missed open guys and was sporting the "I'm completely terrified" face every time he walked over to the sidelines to see Gruden. I've never seen a QB regress like he has from last year.The oline played really well yesterday. Don't blame them.

So what is up with Caddy? The Baltimore game didn't bother me. This Atlanta performance does. Is he just tentative right now?

He didn't get much of a chance to get going yesterday. He's okay, Simms is the problem.

 

[Jason Wood]

Simms is not at fault - it's the depleted O-line. Also he faced 2 great run D's. When those O-line starters are healthy his production will get back to normal. I'm trying to trade FOR him now.

this is not true at all. The Oline was fantastic in pass pro yesterday against a good D. Simms missed his throwing lanes, missed open guys and was sporting the "I'm completely terrified" face every time he walked over to the sidelines to see Gruden. I've never seen a QB regress like he has from last year.The oline played really well yesterday. Don't blame them.

So what is up with Caddy? The Baltimore game didn't bother me. This Atlanta performance does. Is he just tentative right now?

He didn't get much of a chance to get going yesterday. He's okay, Simms is the problem.

In fantasy football it's irrelevant whether your player is doing poorly because of his own flaw or his supporting cast. Unless you can envision his supporting cast improving/changing, Simms' problems ARE Caddy's problems.

 

[Buckna]

I've never seen a QB regress like he has from last year.

I didn't think Simms was all that good last season so what he's doing now isn't really a big surprise to me.

Remember when everyone said mid-to-late last season that Griese was terrible and Simms was the new savior? I didn't know what people were thinking then, and I still don't know now. Simms is not good.Edit: and this is coming from someone who owns him in a dynasty league.

 

[John]

try to trade him for Rudi Johnson

Something tells me he is not in a pre-school league.

 

[packersfan]

I've never seen a QB regress like he has from last year.

I didn't think Simms was all that good last season so what he's doing now isn't really a big surprise to me.

Remember when everyone said mid-to-late last season that Griese was terrible and Simms was the new savior? I didn't know what people were thinking then, and I still don't know now. Simms is not good.

Agreed. I did not get the love Simms was getting especially from a fantasy perspective heading into this season. Other than one good game against Atlanta late last season his numbers were pretty poor. He rarely topped 200 yards passing and often didn't throw a TD. His improved completion percentage was a positive but other than that I really wasn't getting why people thought this guy was going to be a nice fantasy sleeper, much less a quality NFL starting QB. And I'll add that I've never liked Simms much dating back to college. At best, I think he'll prove to be an average NFL QB.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Simms is not at fault - it's the depleted O-line. Also he faced 2 great run D's. When those O-line starters are healthy his production will get back to normal. I'm trying to trade FOR him now.

this is not true at all. The Oline was fantastic in pass pro yesterday against a good D. Simms missed his throwing lanes, missed open guys and was sporting the "I'm completely terrified" face every time he walked over to the sidelines to see Gruden. I've never seen a QB regress like he has from last year.The oline played really well yesterday. Don't blame them.

So what is up with Caddy? The Baltimore game didn't bother me. This Atlanta performance does. Is he just tentative right now?

He didn't get much of a chance to get going yesterday. He's okay, Simms is the problem.

In fantasy football it's irrelevant whether your player is doing poorly because of his own flaw or his supporting cast. Unless you can envision his supporting cast improving/changing, Simms' problems ARE Caddy's problems.

On fantasy football message boards, people ask questions they expect to be answered. When asked what was up with Caddy specifically, and whether he was "tentative" to boot, you answer THAT question, not the other questions surrounding the QB, which have more or less already been answered.

 

[Liopleurodon]

Strip naked and dance around in front of your house.

When the cops come, tell them that you have an underproducing fantasy football RB and you are doing the

running back improvement dance. They'll understand.

 

[LHUCKS]

I'm attempting to trade for Caddy in all leagues.

 

[Bob_Magaw]

does simms have a deliberate release?

that could telegraph to DL when he is going to throw...

linemen on both sides are pretty tall these days... i think there is a lot of variance among QBs in their ability to squeeze the ball through lanes... some QBs seem to have more of a knack for adapting & adjusting on fly, throwing 3/4 if needed...

maybe the timing needed for that is instinctive... either you have it or you don't, & it is hard to develope at this point...

did he get this many passes blocked last season?

if not, it does make you wonder what could have changed... run blocking was addressed, has pass blocking regressed?

i could see if he gets a rep (which it sounds like he already has... if we know, obviously defensive coaching staffs who break down film & whose job it is to know these things to prepare their teams know), DL might be more alert than usual & make sure to throw their arms up to deflect passes...

 

[sholditch]

I always thought that Simms was just good enough to manage the offense kinda like Orton last year but a little better. I thought this was a fairly reasonable assumption as TB has always been a running team with a stout defense. At least they seemed like they wanted to get into that mold last year and that it would continue.

Personally I think that Simms shouldn't be a starting QB and frankly I wonder if he could even cut it as a backup. His play has been nothing short of abysmal.

Caddy now has 23 carries in 2 games. Last year he had 51 by this point. Simms' erratic throwing and seeming inability to keep the ball away from defenders at the line has singlehandedly hamstrung the entire offense, and even made Bucs DST a questionable start because he's constantly putting them in situation where they get scored on.

This is what makes FF so frustrating. There's nothing really wrong with Caddy or his play but because of the blonde butt-boy and an injured o-line, he's borderline worthless until these things get fixed. I've read that the o-line should be fully healthy after their week 4 bye, but even then, if Simms is still at the helm this could go on all season.

Simms' confidence has to be at an all-time low, and this will only be made worse by the fact that Gruden has to seriously start thinking about other options at QB now, and if things don't change in a week or two be ready to make a move.

Does anyone know whether Gruden would consider starting Gradkowski? Has he ever benched a vet for a rookie in a situation like this?

 

[barndog]

I'm up for trading for him, but maybe after this weekend will be better value. CAR coming to town (altho they haven't been terribly stiff), then trade for him before the bye week. No?

 

[NYGus]

Hold on to him and spot start him when the matchup is in his favor. IT'S WEEK TWO!! Everybody just calm down.

 

[kbreaker]

I just traded Caddy and Bulger for FWP and Delhomme. Talk about a group of underperformers. McNabb is my starting QB, so Bulger was riding pine, as will Delhomme.

 

[Raleigh Engineers]

I'm attempting to trade for Caddy in all leagues.

I have him. I am worried. The TB schedule looks brutal too.I am thinking of unloading him...I may be able to get Kevin Jones, whose schedule is a lot easier aftertwo opening tough games.

 

[Noahs Troopers]

Drop him and pick up Brandon Jacobs

I didn't think this would get old, but boy has it ever...

"Barber had his right knee iced and wrapped after the game on Sunday. The injury is considered minor as of Monday, but Barber owners will want to check his practice time/injury status later in the week just to be safe. There are also reports that Barber has a bruised left arm being evaluated further on Monday. "Keep sleeping........Barber will break down this year, stay tuned......

And you know this how?Let me take a wild stab in the dark..... You are a brandon jacobs owner in fantasy football. If that's all you got, your best isn't good enough.

 

[packersfan]

The Panthers have been putrid against the run so far this season. They have allowed 100-yard games to both of the starting RBs they have faced. If Cadillac can't get something going against them then I think it will be time to become officially concerned. I'm starting him and expecting a strong game this week. Maybe that's false or misguided hope but that's how I'm looking at him this week.

 

[Hellfire Snail]

The Panthers have been putrid against the run so far this season. They have allowed 100-yard games to both of the starting RBs they have faced. If Cadillac can't get something going against them then I think it will be time to become officially concerned. I'm starting him and expecting a strong game this week. Maybe that's false or misguided hope but that's how I'm looking at him this week.

I share your (false?) hope. I need Caddy to contribute this week. I'm scared.

 

[thecardiackid]

I traded him & Wayne for SJackson & Stallworth.

I think you sold low on Caddy,I think you lost out on this trade.Things have a way of evening out.

As a disgruntled Caddy owner, at this point I'd knock people over running to make THIS deal. I just had a guy in a keeper league say (after this week's performance) he wasn't sure if he'd do Driver for Caddy s/u after the original offer was Caddy/Bradford for Tater/Driver. I will keep shopping him. Not so much b/c of Caddy himself, but the TB O looks *Raideresque* @ this point. And if Simms gets benched - this will get even uglier (if that's possible).

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

I didnt draft Caddy so i have no issue with waiting on him or even waiting for next year as im in a dynasty league.

But i just traded W.Dunn and A.Battle for Caddy and Brandon Marshall.

I didnt have Norwood and Dunn was my rb2.

I now have Gore Caddy Addai/Rhodes at rb so i will probaly sit him till he shows me something. Or try and deal for Bush as its a ppr league.

 

[Steelnation]

Drop him and pick up Brandon Jacobs

I didn't think this would get old, but boy has it ever...

"Barber had his right knee iced and wrapped after the game on Sunday. The injury is considered minor as of Monday, but Barber owners will want to check his practice time/injury status later in the week just to be safe. There are also reports that Barber has a bruised left arm being evaluated further on Monday. "Keep sleeping........Barber will break down this year, stay tuned......

And you know this how? No need to believe me, believe it when it happens.Let me take a wild stab in the dark..... You are a brandon jacobs owner in fantasy football. Not yet......

If that's all you got, your best isn't good enough.