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Any chance a team takes a shot to make him a safety again...he was a safety in college right?
Some whispering here in Tampa that Shelton's still hurt and may be done. Chris Draft was also scheduled to visit the Bucs today...his signing would probably signal the end of Quarles career here.
When has he ever shown himselfto not be a product of the system?
Why are wetyping like this?
It'sRonMexico'sshtick.
Wow! This was totally unexpected. I think June will fit the system their as a WLB, but I don't think he can handle the Strong or Middle. Makes me wonder where Brooks will line up next year. Maybe Brooks moves to the Strong side with Ruud in the Middle.
I'm glad he's gone. It has been stated that June was one of the primary reasons for their porus run defense. I wonder how many of the 142 tackles were after an 8+ yd gain?
I agree. He's only about 230 pounds soaking wet anyways, what makes it even worse is that he plays like he's 130.
While I agree with you guys....Don't dog him too much, he did make some big plays and all those tackles count for something.
June is pretty decent in pass protection, but with teams running right at June, he was an obvious liability against the run. If you add that with Dwight Freeny's obvious problems with run defense, it makes for 400 rushing games against the Colts. I've always thought Freeny was a one trick pony (rushing the passer), and he wasn't even very good at that in 2006.
I agree about Freeney. He has always been a liability in run defense dating back to his days at Syracuse. Hopefully Keiaho will provide some better run support, but I don;t think he will be as productive in pass coverage or in the big play department.
Good in coverage. Not a particularly good tackler.
Yep, It is Freddie Keiaho time. I think that is why the Colts didn't really want to re-sign him - they want to get him in the lineup. I think the Colts will draft a LB also (to find a long-term replacment for Rob Morris, and to get some depth), but not necessarily in round 1. I could still see the Colts drafting a DT, LB or even WR (because the WR class is so deep, compared to DTs) in round 1 depending on who's left on their draft board.briiliant!
Not could... it would. Devastating. At least until Brooks retires and June gets on the weakside again.
guy made a 162 tackles last year...10 a game. how many does it take to get the "good tackler" tag?
stopping to whiff?
How good of a tackler is he if he allows RBs to rip off big yardage before he makes the tackle?
guy was 5th in the league in tackles last year -- you're trying to tell me that's not impressive and can be that easily replaced?really?
Tackles indicate quantity, not quality. For some guys, like Derrick Brooks, there's no distinction to be made; for others, there is. June was free to roam in that system so he as a mobile LB was around a lot of plays, but that also means that a hell of a lot of traffic was directed to his side of the field, which was not by accident as JohnnyU, for example, pointed out.
I'm not going to go posting links that explains just how bad he is against the run, you can do that yourself. Being a Colts fan I watched almost every Colts game and I can tell you that June made a lot of tackles after big gains. Teams ran at June as part of their game plan. To answer your question, hell no that isn't impressive to me, and yes, he's easily replaced.
I'm not saying he's DBrooks or Urlacher or anything, but saying a guy can't tackle when he's making 10 a game doesn't really jive with me. I'm sure the guy had action directed to his side, but a lot of offenses move towards the weak side. You have a point about the Colts not making a big run at him, but Monte Kiffin sure seemed to like him.
Actually, I'll just go with the scout's take over yours:
Seems to me that he's making the tackles a WLB is supposed to make.
until brooks retires...
Suit yourself. The proof is in the pudding.
5th in the league in tackles, a positive take from a professional scout and a starter on a super bowl winning team at maybe its most important position.or I could go with the thoughts of johnny u who has offered absolutely nothing other than "I watch the games" as proof.
What else is there to discuss? His run defense problems are well documented, so I don't have to add to that.I find it amusing what you quoted "He must be protected well within the box, though, due to his lack of size and play strength.". and " can attack down hill, avoiding and slipping off blocks, but he lacks the size and strength to hold up at the point versus bigger offensive lineman. June is not real explosive with his hands and struggles to disengage and get off blocks", and even the part you bolded indicating he struggles to play under control in open space. Face it, the guy can't stop the run and is a liability in that area. Yes, he's very good in pass coverage, so if your defense can hide his weaknesses, then he's the man for your team.
Monte loves the pass-defending LB. Nickerson and Brooks are two of the best who have ever played at that...and I've seen them both run over many times by OL and FBs.Sounds like June is good fit.
This is why I read these boards. Yes he would. :X
