Cedric Benson (1 Viewer)

[Todem]

Ok here are my projections for Benson this season.

985 Yards

275 Carries

7 TD's

32 Recpetions for 165 Yards 0 TD's.

Why the low carries? Because Benson has no heart and is a head case. Hence why he is a bust.

He does not carry himself like a true pro. I have no room on my squad for bums like him. I can find plenty of those in the later rounds.

You obviously didn't see Benson on the Game Winning drive in the Divisional Playoffs last season.Catching, running, and breaking tackles to put gould into FG position.

Oh I did...one game man.But every other game I watched him play tells me everything I need to know. He does not have "it".

Take off those rose colored glasses Benson slappie

Thomas Jones was not all world...but he was a very solid pro and a great team player. If Benson was so good he would have taken the job. Guy has no heart and no inner drive at the pro level.

Adrian Peterson will take over ( imo he already has) in Minny by week 3. Now you see that is a RB who has "it". He is a superstar talent.

Benson is not...not even close.

 

[PatytonsGhost]

Excellent...people can hate the guy for any irrational reason that pops into their head, but he will produce...

Just ridiculous. Where is the history of production? His college highlights don't equate to fantasy points. What has Benson done so that it's irrational to hate on him? Is it the fact that Thomas Jones outplayed him? Is it the fact that he can't catch the flu? Is it the fact that he's a paranoid person? Is it the fact that his teammates can't stand him? Really, what has this guy done? You tell me, what has he done in the NFL? I'd love to know, then maybe I'll pick him up. I'm honestly asking why would it be rational to think Benson will produce, what has he done besides be a complete flop for the #4 pick overall two years ago.

Cedric Benson on 2 carries back to back in the Super Bowl. Fumble, Busted knee. Jordan-esque?

He was selected with the highest draft pick the Bears have had since 1979 by one of the best personnel evaluators in the game. Hate on him if you like, but he is going to produce. No amount of venom spewed by the shark pool is going to change that. I'll take the opinion of Jerry DeAngelo over Keith Lewis any day of the week.It's draft time, why not just put up your projections, and see where the chips fall.

Here's mine:

295 carries

1300 yards

33 catches

250 yards

10 total touchdowns

lol, very true Angelo is a much better drafter than Keith Lewis, but seriously Angelo is a bright guy and he has done his due dilligence, just look at Grossman In Angelo i trust

 

[RBM]

Adrian Peterson will take over ( imo he already has) in Minny by week 3. Now you see that is a RB who has "it". He is a superstar talent. Benson is not...not even close.

I like AP alot but....wow, just wow.

 

[RBM]

lol, very true Angelo is a much better drafter than Keith Lewis, but seriously Angelo is a bright guy and he has done his due dilligence, just look at Grossman In Angelo i trust

Grossman has played one full season, and has been to one Super Bowl. Pretty good start to his career if ya ask me.

 

[aggie_dave]

Ok here are my projections for Benson this season.

985 Yards

275 Carries

7 TD's

32 Recpetions for 165 Yards 0 TD's.

Why the low carries? Because Benson has no heart and is a head case. Hence why he is a bust.

He does not carry himself like a true pro. I have no room on my squad for bums like him. I can find plenty of those in the later rounds.

You obviously didn't see Benson on the Game Winning drive in the Divisional Playoffs last season.Catching, running, and breaking tackles to put gould into FG position.

Oh I did...one game man.But every other game I watched him play tells me everything I need to know. He does not have "it".

Take off those rose colored glasses Benson slappie

Thomas Jones was not all world...but he was a very solid pro and a great team player. If Benson was so good he would have taken the job. Guy has no heart and no inner drive at the pro level.

Adrian Peterson will take over ( imo he already has) in Minny by week 3. Now you see that is a RB who has "it". He is a superstar talent.

Benson is not...not even close.

That's what I love about this board, everything is based in fact. I totally saw Benson's heart per carry average (HPC for lamen) was well below the league average. Forget the fact that he had the same number of TD carries and half the yards last year as Jones with eight more than half the carries. But an HPC like that has to knock him down to at best the 10th round.

Thanks for warning about this guy!

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Ok here are my projections for Benson this season.

985 Yards

275 Carries

7 TD's

32 Recpetions for 165 Yards 0 TD's.

Why the low carries? Because Benson has no heart and is a head case. Hence why he is a bust.

He does not carry himself like a true pro. I have no room on my squad for bums like him. I can find plenty of those in the later rounds.

You obviously didn't see Benson on the Game Winning drive in the Divisional Playoffs last season.Catching, running, and breaking tackles to put gould into FG position.

Oh I did...one game man.But every other game I watched him play tells me everything I need to know. He does not have "it".

Take off those rose colored glasses Benson slappie

Thomas Jones was not all world...but he was a very solid pro and a great team player. If Benson was so good he would have taken the job. Guy has no heart and no inner drive at the pro level.

Adrian Peterson will take over ( imo he already has) in Minny by week 3. Now you see that is a RB who has "it". He is a superstar talent.

Benson is not...not even close.

Get off your Todem poll IF you watched Benson the last half of the season, then you saw the potential that is this season.

He didn't start his rookie season b/c of a holdout and the Bears were going to the playoffs.

Last season he injured his shoulder in training camp(when he was the starter) and then wasn't healthy until the second half of the season.

But in reality, Chicago has a veteren group that didn't want a young hotshot(b/c he held out for money in training camp) kid to take over for the seasoned Thomas Jones. That was a large factor in the rough training camp and injury that he had. By the end of the season, the veteren realized they needed Benson for the Super Bowl run. Then when he got hurt in the Super Bowl, it was almost all but over for the Bears.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

lol, very true Angelo is a much better drafter than Keith Lewis, but seriously Angelo is a bright guy and he has done his due dilligence, just look at Grossman In Angelo i trust

Grossman has played one full season, and has been to one Super Bowl. Pretty good start to his career if ya ask me.

3200 yards and 23 td's in his first full season.....has vick ever done that.

 

[PatytonsGhost]

lol, very true Angelo is a much better drafter than Keith Lewis, but seriously Angelo is a bright guy and he has done his due dilligence, just look at Grossman In Angelo i trust

Grossman has played one full season, and has been to one Super Bowl. Pretty good start to his career if ya ask me.

Don't get me wrong I like Grossman but dude got there cuz of Defense and Special teams not himself, thats like saying Dilfer led the Ravens to the superbowl, IE the superbowl wasn't his true start of his career

 

[Todem]

Ok here are my projections for Benson this season.

985 Yards

275 Carries

7 TD's

32 Recpetions for 165 Yards 0 TD's.

Why the low carries? Because Benson has no heart and is a head case. Hence why he is a bust.

He does not carry himself like a true pro. I have no room on my squad for bums like him. I can find plenty of those in the later rounds.

You obviously didn't see Benson on the Game Winning drive in the Divisional Playoffs last season.Catching, running, and breaking tackles to put gould into FG position.

Oh I did...one game man.But every other game I watched him play tells me everything I need to know. He does not have "it".

Take off those rose colored glasses Benson slappie

Thomas Jones was not all world...but he was a very solid pro and a great team player. If Benson was so good he would have taken the job. Guy has no heart and no inner drive at the pro level.

Adrian Peterson will take over ( imo he already has) in Minny by week 3. Now you see that is a RB who has "it". He is a superstar talent.

Benson is not...not even close.

That's what I love about this board, everything is based in fact. I totally saw Benson's heart per carry average (HPC for lamen) was well below the league average. Forget the fact that he had the same number of TD carries and half the yards last year as Jones with eight more than half the carries. But an HPC like that has to knock him down to at best the 10th round.

Thanks for warning about this guy! :X

So draft him...and lose your league. No probelm man.

 

[RBM]

lol, very true Angelo is a much better drafter than Keith Lewis, but seriously Angelo is a bright guy and he has done his due dilligence, just look at Grossman In Angelo i trust

Grossman has played one full season, and has been to one Super Bowl. Pretty good start to his career if ya ask me.

Don't get me wrong I like Grossman but dude got there cuz of Defense and Special teams not himself, thats like saying Dilfer led the Ravens to the superbowl, IE the superbowl wasn't his true start of his career

Dont forget he threw 23 tds and they scored the 2nd most points in the league.

 

[menobrown]

. If Benson was so good he would have taken the job.

You are right and he did.

 

[Keith Lewis]

I'll take the opinion of Jerry DeAngelo over Keith Lewis any day of the week.

And this is why you will never win a fantasy championship.

 

[Tenacious D]

[if Benson was so good he would have taken the job.

Spouting platitudes like this in the Benson arguement always undermine someone's arguement.Ricky Watters would have held off Shaun Alexander for two years if he hadn't gotten hurt. Ahman Green couldn't even get a look from Holmgren b/c of Watters either. Both those guys turned out pretty good. Gary Brown, Tyrone Wheatley, and Charles Way, among others, kept Tiki Barber down for three years, and even then they thought so little of his potential as a feature back they drafted Ron freakin Dayne in the first round. It took Larry Johnson three years to become the man in KC behind Holmes. And, of course, the most ironic part of the arguement is it took former first round pick Thomas Jones himself six years, three stops behind lackluster other options, and the unanimous opinion of being a bust to rush for 1K and become a solid pro, but I'm sure you still knew he had the heart to do it through those tough times. All those guys were eventually good enough.Benson held out and then was injured. He never had a chance to take the job from Jones. Jones went on to have a career year and become a critical part of a division champ. Benson would have had to channel Techmo Bowl Bo Jackson in camp to take the job after that last year. Instead, Benson was mostly effective as RB2 and showed enough for the team to cut ties with Jones after he helped them to the Super Bowl. If that isn't taking the job, I don't know what is.I don't disagree Benson has shown indicators of being headcase, and it could ultimately hurt his career down the road, but there isn't a lot to not like this year. He has an outstanding veteran line in front of him and the best defense on the other side of the ball. Brock Forsey could rush for 1K and 10 TDs if they gave him the ball 300 times, which the Bears will do for Benson.

 

[TwinTurbo]

I'm not a Benson slappie and never really liked this guy in college either. When the Bears drafted him in 2005, I thought it was a reach. Fast forward to now and he hasn't shown much along the way. But that said, Benson is probably going to get 300+ carries in a solid Bears offense that is geared towards the running game. His ADP is around RB #18. He seems like a good value to me. I'm ready to put aside my personal dislike of him and roll the dice if he drops that far in my drafts. And as for Adrian Peterson, there is only one stud Adrian Peterson and he plays for the Vikings. The poor man's Peterson is not a RB1. He was a great Division 1-AA college player but I don't care how you spin it, that guy is 3rd down material in the NFL. He is not a feature back and if Benson goes down the Bears will be in trouble if all they have is Peterson.

 

[huckyoda]

[if Benson was so good he would have taken the job.

Spouting platitudes like this in the Benson arguement always undermine someone's arguement.Ricky Watters would have held off Shaun Alexander for two years if he hadn't gotten hurt. Ahman Green couldn't even get a look from Holmgren b/c of Watters either. Both those guys turned out pretty good. Gary Brown, Tyrone Wheatley, and Charles Way, among others, kept Tiki Barber down for three years, and even then they thought so little of his potential as a feature back they drafted Ron freakin Dayne in the first round. It took Larry Johnson three years to become the man in KC behind Holmes. And, of course, the most ironic part of the arguement is it took former first round pick Thomas Jones himself six years, three stops behind lackluster other options, and the unanimous opinion of being a bust to rush for 1K and become a solid pro, but I'm sure you still knew he had the heart to do it through those tough times. All those guys were eventually good enough.Benson held out and then was injured. He never had a chance to take the job from Jones. Jones went on to have a career year and become a critical part of a division champ. Benson would have had to channel Techmo Bowl Bo Jackson in camp to take the job after that last year. Instead, Benson was mostly effective as RB2 and showed enough for the team to cut ties with Jones after he helped them to the Super Bowl. If that isn't taking the job, I don't know what is.I don't disagree Benson has shown indicators of being headcase, and it could ultimately hurt his career down the road, but there isn't a lot to not like this year. He has an outstanding veteran line in front of him and the best defense on the other side of the ball. Brock Forsey could rush for 1K and 10 TDs if they gave him the ball 300 times, which the Bears will do for Benson.

The voice of reason. I am a Benson hater, but some of the arguments here are making me want to trade for him. He doesnt have "it"? His problem is not that he is "different", as someone posted. He is not eccentric or soft like Ricky Williams. He is just a whiny, selfish brat.I think he will have a bad year, but his downside (aside from injury) is low, given that he will get carries and the team will run. FWIW, the Bears O-line is being over rated in this thread.I see a season similar to Eddie George's last couple of years. >300 carries, <3.5 ypc. If I have to go with a number, Ill say 310 carries for 1k even (3.25 ypc).

 

[Todem]

It's only my opinion ....and it's simple. I watched him play now for 2 years and it is obvious to me he is nothing special...will never be an elite back, and very likely to fail.

I much rather draft other RB's over Benson.

And as far as him beating out Thomas Jones? It never happned. Jones was getting punished for missing OTA's last year. And yes Benson hurt his shoulder but usually you never lose your starting status due to injury. Benson did, therefore he never was in my eye's the starter.

Get over it. Excuses, excuses, excuses.

I think he sucks what's the problem? I think I am right you think your right. I am not going to garble out stat's all day. I just need to watch guy's play to evaluate if they are worthy of being my my roster.

I have never had problems winning leagues for the last 17 years doing it that way. Those who pile over numbers all day...keep doing that if it turns you on or wins you leagues. I will just continue to watch football very closley and see how they play and perform.

Benson has showed a few things.

1) He has no 4th or 5th gear

2) No great cutting abitly

3) No vision.

4) No maturity

5) No heart

He has bust written all over him.

I am done.

 

[Banger]

lol, very true Angelo is a much better drafter than Keith Lewis, but seriously Angelo is a bright guy and he has done his due dilligence, just look at Grossman In Angelo i trust

Grossman has played one full season, and has been to one Super Bowl. Pretty good start to his career if ya ask me.

this logic never ceases to amaze me....

 

[Raiders Fan]

It shouldn't take a 1st round pick this long to get his own starting gig. That tells you the coaches didn't see enough out of him to give him the job. Tell me all you Benson supporters as to why it took 3 years to be the #1 starter when all he had in front of him was a journeyman RB??

 

[Banger]

It shouldn't take a 1st round pick this long to get his own starting gig. That tells you the coaches didn't see enough out of him to give him the job. Tell me all you Benson supporters as to why it took 3 years to be the #1 starter when all he had in front of him was a journeyman RB??

That journeyman Rb was a #7 1st round pick.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

It's only my opinion ....and it's simple. I watched him play now for 2 years and it is obvious to me he is nothing special...will never be an elite back, and very likely to fail.I much rather draft other RB's over Benson. And as far as him beating out Thomas Jones? It never happned. Jones was getting punished for missing OTA's last year. And yes Benson hurt his shoulder but usually you never lose your starting status due to injury. Benson did, therefore he never was in my eye's the starter.Get over it. Excuses, excuses, excuses.I think he sucks what's the problem? I think I am right you think your right. I am not going to garble out stat's all day. I just need to watch guy's play to evaluate if they are worthy of being my my roster.I have never had problems winning leagues for the last 17 years doing it that way. Those who pile over numbers all day...keep doing that if it turns you on or wins you leagues. I will just continue to watch football very closley and see how they play and perform.Benson has showed a few things.1) He has no 4th or 5th gear2) No great cutting abitly3) No vision.4) No maturity5) No heartHe has bust written all over him.I am done.

Dude, it's cool if in your subjective opinion Ced Benson will be a bust. Let's just be clear that it's a mainly subjective stance.Given how vociferous you've been, I hope that you'll be man enough at year-end to come back here and admit you were wrong.

 

[NYGus]

Because of the way I drafted this year Benson is my RB1-he fell to me in round 4-and I have absolutely no qualms about it. He will put up late 1st round RB numbers --1200-1300yds and 10-13 TD's. Not a big fan of Cedric but fantasy isn't about that. Also love the fact that the Bears have the 2nd 'easiest' schedule this season. They play teams who ended up with a combined .465 winning %(119-137) last season.

 

[redaddy25]

I just have to question all of those that are so high on Adrian Peterson and why they think he will take over so quickly for Benson. Its not like Peterson hasn't had some sort of chance over the last FIVE years.

2002 - Anthony Thomas and Leon Johnson both averaging under 3.5 YPC and Peterson still only got 19 carries on the season.

2003 - A year after Thomas was dreadful he still get 240+ carries and even Brock Forsey sees more time that Peterson.

2004 - Thomas Jones, who had been kicked around the league a few times already, gets 240 carries and Thomas still got 122 carries at his 3.3 YPC average... Peterson just 6 carries.

2005 - Peterson averages 5.1 YPC but still only gets 79 carries on the season

2006 - Even after the big average YPC on '05 Peterson gets a whopping 10 carries in '06 while Benson and Jones see all the work.

I still don't know how I feel on Benson, but I don't see how he won't get 300 carries if he does not get injured. Sure, Peterson will get some carries because of how much the Bears run the ball but what exactly over the last 5 years have the Bears shown that makes you think that Peterson is all of the sudden going to take over as a starter?

 

[Raiders Fan]

It shouldn't take a 1st round pick this long to get his own starting gig. That tells you the coaches didn't see enough out of him to give him the job. Tell me all you Benson supporters as to why it took 3 years to be the #1 starter when all he had in front of him was a journeyman RB??

That journeyman Rb was a #7 1st round pick.

Its not where you are drafted its what you do with your opportunity. Jones hasn't done much.. Pretty mediocre career so far.

 

[TinHat]

It's only my opinion ....and it's simple. I watched him play now for 2 years and it is obvious to me he is nothing special...will never be an elite back, and very likely to fail.

Thomas Jones isn't an elite back either and he did Ok in that systemCB is the right back in the right year, like Stephen Davis with the 'skins and Panthers.CB is great value in that system. With that D, they'll always be playing on a short field, and Grossman and Berrian are good enough to keep defenses honest.

 

[huckyoda]

I am not going to garble out stat's all day. I just need to watch guy's play to evaluate if they are worthy of being my my roster.

Classic!(We are not selling jeans here!)

 

[huckyoda]

I had the impression that a lot of his 4.1 ypc was the result of garbage time play. Some big runs against GB late in the game came to mind. I just ran the numbers on Benson last season for carries when the game was within 14 points. To keep the sample size as big as possible, I included the post season. The results:

128 carries

521 yards

5 TDs

4.07 ypc

Not quite as bad as I thought.

Surprisingly, his numbers at the end of the games were a lot worse than his first carries, even though he was known as a 25 carry back in college. Maybe this was fresh legs against a tired defense?

In any case, I still think he stinks, just not as bad as I thought he was. I see him as a low upside, low downside RB, kind of like Jamal Lewis.

 

[Keith Lewis]

Because of the way I drafted this year Benson is my RB1-he fell to me in round 4-and I have absolutely no qualms about it. He will put up late 1st round RB numbers --1200-1300yds and 10-13 TD's.

Who else did you draft since you drafting a player increases the players liklihood of success?

 

[huckyoda]

 

[TinHat]

In any case, I still think he stinks, just not as bad as I thought he was. I see him as a low upside, low downside RB, kind of like Jamal Lewis.

how many rushing TDs do you see the Bears scoring this year? And the Browns?jus' askin'

 

[Pocket Joker]

Also about Benson from ESPN:

Benson is ready to carry the load

Cedric Benson has a different running style than Thomas Jones, but he should have a great season. Jones ran for 1,330 yards in 2005 and 1,210 yards in 2006. Benson has the potential to better that. He's trained hard this offseason, and Benson is lighter and quicker. He worked at strengthening his stomach muscles in order to give him better balance and power when maneuvering through holes.

Several times in the recent night practice, Benson took an inside hand off and blasted through the middle of the defense for a long gain. Once he gets past the initial wave of tacklers, Benson will compress his upper body around the ball. He explained that his biggest problem in sharing the job was a lack of continuity. He's a runner who excels in the second halves of game after wearing out defenders with his physical style early on. For two years, he'd get on the field for a series or two, then return to the bench. It drove him crazy and prevented him from getting into any kind of rhythm running the ball.

Well, I think this makes me want to drop Peterson from any chance of stealing his job....

 

[NYGus]

Because of the way I drafted this year Benson is my RB1-he fell to me in round 4-and I have absolutely no qualms about it. He will put up late 1st round RB numbers --1200-1300yds and 10-13 TD's.

Who else did you draft since you drafting a player increases the players liklihood of success?

I think you missed my point. I'm not foolish enough to believe that because I drafted him-he will do well. I just think that being the only back in a run 1st offense that he will do well and better than about 1/2 of the so called 1st round RB's. I just don't put much stock in what everyone else thinks and I certainly don't subscribe to the silly RB/RB theory. Been playing this game long enough to know that it's total b.s. For the record I got Manning,Harrison, and Roy Williams in rounds 1/2/3. Edge, A. Green, and Barber are my other RB's.

 

[huckyoda]

In any case, I still think he stinks, just not as bad as I thought he was. I see him as a low upside, low downside RB, kind of like Jamal Lewis.

how many rushing TDs do you see the Bears scoring this year? And the Browns?jus' askin'

Not that many for the Bears at all. As I said earlier in the thread, the O-line is over rated, Rex doesnt look any sharper, Mush is a year older, and now there is no TJ. Add in a brutal schedule, and this is going to be a rough year for the Bears offense.

 

[huckyoda]

Also about Benson from ESPN:

Benson is ready to carry the load

Cedric Benson has a different running style than Thomas Jones, but he should have a great season. Jones ran for 1,330 yards in 2005 and 1,210 yards in 2006. Benson has the potential to better that. He's trained hard this offseason, and Benson is lighter and quicker. He worked at strengthening his stomach muscles in order to give him better balance and power when maneuvering through holes.

Several times in the recent night practice, Benson took an inside hand off and blasted through the middle of the defense for a long gain. Once he gets past the initial wave of tacklers, Benson will compress his upper body around the ball. He explained that his biggest problem in sharing the job was a lack of continuity. He's a runner who excels in the second halves of game after wearing out defenders with his physical style early on. For two years, he'd get on the field for a series or two, then return to the bench. It drove him crazy and prevented him from getting into any kind of rhythm running the ball.

Well, I think this makes me want to drop Peterson from any chance of stealing his job....

The numbers form last year do not support this myth.

 

[Colin Dowling]

Also about Benson from ESPN:

Benson is ready to carry the load

Cedric Benson has a different running style than Thomas Jones, but he should have a great season. Jones ran for 1,330 yards in 2005 and 1,210 yards in 2006. Benson has the potential to better that. He's trained hard this offseason, and Benson is lighter and quicker. He worked at strengthening his stomach muscles in order to give him better balance and power when maneuvering through holes.

Several times in the recent night practice, Benson took an inside hand off and blasted through the middle of the defense for a long gain. Once he gets past the initial wave of tacklers, Benson will compress his upper body around the ball. He explained that his biggest problem in sharing the job was a lack of continuity. He's a runner who excels in the second halves of game after wearing out defenders with his physical style early on. For two years, he'd get on the field for a series or two, then return to the bench. It drove him crazy and prevented him from getting into any kind of rhythm running the ball.

Well, I think this makes me want to drop Peterson from any chance of stealing his job....

The numbers form last year do not support this myth.

The numbers from 4 years in high school and 4 years in college certainly do.

 

[huckyoda]

Also about Benson from ESPN:

Benson is ready to carry the load

Cedric Benson has a different running style than Thomas Jones, but he should have a great season. Jones ran for 1,330 yards in 2005 and 1,210 yards in 2006. Benson has the potential to better that. He's trained hard this offseason, and Benson is lighter and quicker. He worked at strengthening his stomach muscles in order to give him better balance and power when maneuvering through holes.

Several times in the recent night practice, Benson took an inside hand off and blasted through the middle of the defense for a long gain. Once he gets past the initial wave of tacklers, Benson will compress his upper body around the ball. He explained that his biggest problem in sharing the job was a lack of continuity. He's a runner who excels in the second halves of game after wearing out defenders with his physical style early on. For two years, he'd get on the field for a series or two, then return to the bench. It drove him crazy and prevented him from getting into any kind of rhythm running the ball.

Well, I think this makes me want to drop Peterson from any chance of stealing his job....

The numbers form last year do not support this myth.

The numbers from 4 years in high school and 4 years in college certainly do.

It is a lot easier to wear down high school kids than NFL linebackers.

 

[Christo]

Also about Benson from ESPN:

Benson is ready to carry the load

Cedric Benson has a different running style than Thomas Jones, but he should have a great season. Jones ran for 1,330 yards in 2005 and 1,210 yards in 2006. Benson has the potential to better that. He's trained hard this offseason, and Benson is lighter and quicker. He worked at strengthening his stomach muscles in order to give him better balance and power when maneuvering through holes.

Several times in the recent night practice, Benson took an inside hand off and blasted through the middle of the defense for a long gain. Once he gets past the initial wave of tacklers, Benson will compress his upper body around the ball. He explained that his biggest problem in sharing the job was a lack of continuity. He's a runner who excels in the second halves of game after wearing out defenders with his physical style early on. For two years, he'd get on the field for a series or two, then return to the bench. It drove him crazy and prevented him from getting into any kind of rhythm running the ball.

Well, I think this makes me want to drop Peterson from any chance of stealing his job....

The numbers form last year do not support this myth.

He wasn't given the opportunity to get the early carries. Therefore, last year's numbers don't contradict it either.

 

[huckyoda]

Also about Benson from ESPN:

Benson is ready to carry the load

Cedric Benson has a different running style than Thomas Jones, but he should have a great season. Jones ran for 1,330 yards in 2005 and 1,210 yards in 2006. Benson has the potential to better that. He's trained hard this offseason, and Benson is lighter and quicker. He worked at strengthening his stomach muscles in order to give him better balance and power when maneuvering through holes.

Several times in the recent night practice, Benson took an inside hand off and blasted through the middle of the defense for a long gain. Once he gets past the initial wave of tacklers, Benson will compress his upper body around the ball. He explained that his biggest problem in sharing the job was a lack of continuity. He's a runner who excels in the second halves of game after wearing out defenders with his physical style early on. For two years, he'd get on the field for a series or two, then return to the bench. It drove him crazy and prevented him from getting into any kind of rhythm running the ball.

Well, I think this makes me want to drop Peterson from any chance of stealing his job....

The numbers form last year do not support this myth.

He wasn't given the opportunity to get the early carries. Therefore, last year's numbers don't contradict it either.

I would suggest taking a look at his game logs from last year. I did, and I can reiterate that the numbers from last year do not support this myth.

I had the impression that a lot of his 4.1 ypc was the result of garbage time play. Some big runs against GB late in the game came to mind. I just ran the numbers on Benson last season for carries when the game was within 14 points. To keep the sample size as big as possible, I included the post season. The results:

128 carries

521 yards

5 TDs

4.07 ypc

Not quite as bad as I thought.

Surprisingly, his numbers at the end of the games were a lot worse than his first carries, even though he was known as a 25 carry back in college. Maybe this was fresh legs against a tired defense?

In any case, I still think he stinks, just not as bad as I thought he was. I see him as a low upside, low downside RB, kind of like Jamal Lewis.

 

[RBM]

Also about Benson from ESPN:

Benson is ready to carry the load

Cedric Benson has a different running style than Thomas Jones, but he should have a great season. Jones ran for 1,330 yards in 2005 and 1,210 yards in 2006. Benson has the potential to better that. He's trained hard this offseason, and Benson is lighter and quicker. He worked at strengthening his stomach muscles in order to give him better balance and power when maneuvering through holes.

Several times in the recent night practice, Benson took an inside hand off and blasted through the middle of the defense for a long gain. Once he gets past the initial wave of tacklers, Benson will compress his upper body around the ball. He explained that his biggest problem in sharing the job was a lack of continuity. He's a runner who excels in the second halves of game after wearing out defenders with his physical style early on. For two years, he'd get on the field for a series or two, then return to the bench. It drove him crazy and prevented him from getting into any kind of rhythm running the ball.

Well, I think this makes me want to drop Peterson from any chance of stealing his job....

The numbers form last year do not support this myth.

He wasn't given the opportunity to get the early carries. Therefore, last year's numbers don't contradict it either.

I would suggest taking a look at his game logs from last year. I did, and I can reiterate that the numbers from last year do not support this myth.

I had the impression that a lot of his 4.1 ypc was the result of garbage time play. Some big runs against GB late in the game came to mind. I just ran the numbers on Benson last season for carries when the game was within 14 points. To keep the sample size as big as possible, I included the post season. The results:

128 carries

521 yards

5 TDs

4.07 ypc

Not quite as bad as I thought.

Surprisingly, his numbers at the end of the games were a lot worse than his first carries, even though he was known as a 25 carry back in college. Maybe this was fresh legs against a tired defense?

In any case, I still think he stinks, just not as bad as I thought he was. I see him as a low upside, low downside RB, kind of like Jamal Lewis.

Are you fully understanding what the underlined phrase means?

 

[Christo]

Also about Benson from ESPN:

Benson is ready to carry the load

Cedric Benson has a different running style than Thomas Jones, but he should have a great season. Jones ran for 1,330 yards in 2005 and 1,210 yards in 2006. Benson has the potential to better that. He's trained hard this offseason, and Benson is lighter and quicker. He worked at strengthening his stomach muscles in order to give him better balance and power when maneuvering through holes.

Several times in the recent night practice, Benson took an inside hand off and blasted through the middle of the defense for a long gain. Once he gets past the initial wave of tacklers, Benson will compress his upper body around the ball. He explained that his biggest problem in sharing the job was a lack of continuity. He's a runner who excels in the second halves of game after wearing out defenders with his physical style early on. For two years, he'd get on the field for a series or two, then return to the bench. It drove him crazy and prevented him from getting into any kind of rhythm running the ball.

Well, I think this makes me want to drop Peterson from any chance of stealing his job....

The numbers form last year do not support this myth.

He wasn't given the opportunity to get the early carries. Therefore, last year's numbers don't contradict it either.

I would suggest taking a look at his game logs from last year. I did, and I can reiterate that the numbers from last year do not support this myth.

I did. He didn't get more than 16 total carries in any game during the regular season. He needs that many carries in the first half to see results in the second half. I don't think you understand the concept of a big back wearing down a defense.

 

[huckyoda]

Also about Benson from ESPN:

Benson is ready to carry the load

Cedric Benson has a different running style than Thomas Jones, but he should have a great season. Jones ran for 1,330 yards in 2005 and 1,210 yards in 2006. Benson has the potential to better that. He's trained hard this offseason, and Benson is lighter and quicker. He worked at strengthening his stomach muscles in order to give him better balance and power when maneuvering through holes.

Several times in the recent night practice, Benson took an inside hand off and blasted through the middle of the defense for a long gain. Once he gets past the initial wave of tacklers, Benson will compress his upper body around the ball. He explained that his biggest problem in sharing the job was a lack of continuity. He's a runner who excels in the second halves of game after wearing out defenders with his physical style early on. For two years, he'd get on the field for a series or two, then return to the bench. It drove him crazy and prevented him from getting into any kind of rhythm running the ball.

Well, I think this makes me want to drop Peterson from any chance of stealing his job....

The numbers form last year do not support this myth.

He wasn't given the opportunity to get the early carries. Therefore, last year's numbers don't contradict it either.

I would suggest taking a look at his game logs from last year. I did, and I can reiterate that the numbers from last year do not support this myth.

I had the impression that a lot of his 4.1 ypc was the result of garbage time play. Some big runs against GB late in the game came to mind. I just ran the numbers on Benson last season for carries when the game was within 14 points. To keep the sample size as big as possible, I included the post season. The results:

128 carries

521 yards

5 TDs

4.07 ypc

Not quite as bad as I thought.

Surprisingly, his numbers at the end of the games were a lot worse than his first carries, even though he was known as a 25 carry back in college. Maybe this was fresh legs against a tired defense?

In any case, I still think he stinks, just not as bad as I thought he was. I see him as a low upside, low downside RB, kind of like Jamal Lewis.

Are you fully understanding what the underlined phrase means?

Yes. His most carries last year came in week 20 (playoffs), against the Saints. Benson had 24 carries. Even though it was a soft run defense, and a blowout, in his last five carries he averaged 2.8 ypc. Benson sucks.

 

[Pocket Joker]

Also about Benson from ESPN:

Benson is ready to carry the load

Cedric Benson has a different running style than Thomas Jones, but he should have a great season. Jones ran for 1,330 yards in 2005 and 1,210 yards in 2006. Benson has the potential to better that. He's trained hard this offseason, and Benson is lighter and quicker. He worked at strengthening his stomach muscles in order to give him better balance and power when maneuvering through holes.

Several times in the recent night practice, Benson took an inside hand off and blasted through the middle of the defense for a long gain. Once he gets past the initial wave of tacklers, Benson will compress his upper body around the ball. He explained that his biggest problem in sharing the job was a lack of continuity. He's a runner who excels in the second halves of game after wearing out defenders with his physical style early on. For two years, he'd get on the field for a series or two, then return to the bench. It drove him crazy and prevented him from getting into any kind of rhythm running the ball.

Well, I think this makes me want to drop Peterson from any chance of stealing his job....

The numbers form last year do not support this myth.

He wasn't given the opportunity to get the early carries. Therefore, last year's numbers don't contradict it either.

I would suggest taking a look at his game logs from last year. I did, and I can reiterate that the numbers from last year do not support this myth.

I had the impression that a lot of his 4.1 ypc was the result of garbage time play. Some big runs against GB late in the game came to mind. I just ran the numbers on Benson last season for carries when the game was within 14 points. To keep the sample size as big as possible, I included the post season. The results:

128 carries

521 yards

5 TDs

4.07 ypc

Not quite as bad as I thought.

Surprisingly, his numbers at the end of the games were a lot worse than his first carries, even though he was known as a 25 carry back in college. Maybe this was fresh legs against a tired defense?

In any case, I still think he stinks, just not as bad as I thought he was. I see him as a low upside, low downside RB, kind of like Jamal Lewis.

So, what is your theory? That Benson will blow his opportunity, and Peterson will steal???

 

[Neo]

It's only my opinion ....and it's simple. I watched him play now for 2 years and it is obvious to me he is nothing special...will never be an elite back, and very likely to fail.I much rather draft other RB's over Benson. And as far as him beating out Thomas Jones? It never happned. Jones was getting punished for missing OTA's last year. And yes Benson hurt his shoulder but usually you never lose your starting status due to injury. Benson did, therefore he never was in my eye's the starter.Get over it. Excuses, excuses, excuses.I think he sucks what's the problem? I think I am right you think your right. I am not going to garble out stat's all day. I just need to watch guy's play to evaluate if they are worthy of being my my roster.I have never had problems winning leagues for the last 17 years doing it that way. Those who pile over numbers all day...keep doing that if it turns you on or wins you leagues. I will just continue to watch football very closley and see how they play and perform.Benson has showed a few things.1) He has no 4th or 5th gear2) No great cutting abitly3) No vision.4) No maturity5) No heartHe has bust written all over him.I am done.

I am a Benson dynasty owner and couldn't agree with you more on your 5 points.....I am looking to trade him away while his value is high.

 

[huckyoda]

So, what is your theory? That Benson will blow his opportunity, and Peterson will steal???

I doubt that (barring injury or another team incident). I just think he will put up very mediocre stats. Maybe he will start giving some carries to Peterson towards the end of the year when they finally realize his ineffectiveness, but there is little reason to expect him to lose the job right away.

 

[RBM]

Also about Benson from ESPN:

Benson is ready to carry the load

Cedric Benson has a different running style than Thomas Jones, but he should have a great season. Jones ran for 1,330 yards in 2005 and 1,210 yards in 2006. Benson has the potential to better that. He's trained hard this offseason, and Benson is lighter and quicker. He worked at strengthening his stomach muscles in order to give him better balance and power when maneuvering through holes.

Several times in the recent night practice, Benson took an inside hand off and blasted through the middle of the defense for a long gain. Once he gets past the initial wave of tacklers, Benson will compress his upper body around the ball. He explained that his biggest problem in sharing the job was a lack of continuity. He's a runner who excels in the second halves of game after wearing out defenders with his physical style early on. For two years, he'd get on the field for a series or two, then return to the bench. It drove him crazy and prevented him from getting into any kind of rhythm running the ball.

Well, I think this makes me want to drop Peterson from any chance of stealing his job....

The numbers form last year do not support this myth.

He wasn't given the opportunity to get the early carries. Therefore, last year's numbers don't contradict it either.

I would suggest taking a look at his game logs from last year. I did, and I can reiterate that the numbers from last year do not support this myth.

I had the impression that a lot of his 4.1 ypc was the result of garbage time play. Some big runs against GB late in the game came to mind. I just ran the numbers on Benson last season for carries when the game was within 14 points. To keep the sample size as big as possible, I included the post season. The results:

128 carries

521 yards

5 TDs

4.07 ypc

Not quite as bad as I thought.

Surprisingly, his numbers at the end of the games were a lot worse than his first carries, even though he was known as a 25 carry back in college. Maybe this was fresh legs against a tired defense?

In any case, I still think he stinks, just not as bad as I thought he was. I see him as a low upside, low downside RB, kind of like Jamal Lewis.

Are you fully understanding what the underlined phrase means?

Yes. His most carries last year came in week 20 (playoffs), against the Saints. Benson had 24 carries. Even though it was a soft run defense, and a blowout, in his last five carries he averaged 2.8 ypc. Benson sucks.

You are that confident going off one game?

 

[huckyoda]

You are that confident going off one game?

You are confident of his effectiveness based on a college resume three years ago?

 

[Colin Dowling]

Wow.

:GlobeSizedBlackDot:

 

[Colin Dowling]

You are that confident going off one game?

You are confident of his effectiveness based on a college resume three years ago?

Yes. Completely.

 

[RBM]

You are that confident going off one game?

You are confident of his effectiveness based on a college resume three years ago?

Well what the hell else would it make sense for me to go on? Its the last time he was a true feature back.

 

[Christo]

Are you fully understanding what the underlined phrase means?

Yes. His most carries last year came in week 20 (playoffs), against the Saints. Benson had 24 carries. Even though it was a soft run defense, and a blowout, in his last five carries he averaged 2.8 ypc. Benson sucks.

You do realize that at that point the Bears were leading 39-14 and were just running out the last three and a half minutes, right? And that they gave Benson the ball four straight times and he picked up the first down, right? And there was no way they Bears were going to pass the ball, right? And NO knew exactly what was coming, right?

 

[BoulderBob]

So, what is your theory? That Benson will blow his opportunity, and Peterson will steal???

I doubt that (barring injury or another team incident). I just think he will put up very mediocre stats. Maybe he will start giving some carries to Peterson towards the end of the year when they finally realize his ineffectiveness, but there is little reason to expect him to lose the job right away.

I guess you're assuming the Bears defense will no longer be dominant, and no longer give the offense easy opportunities to score. If the Bears D is as good as last year, and I see no reason why they shouldn't be even better, the RB will produce very nice numbers. Adrian Peterson is a below average back, I've seen every run of his career, and he simply isn't good enough to get more than 10 carries in any given game. If he is getting the majority of the carries at any point this season, Cedric Benson is injured. The Bears will score points with any team in the league this season, and I believe Benson will be the one who benefits most from the good offense/amazing defense. It will be fun to bump this thread in December...