Chad Johnson has a torn labrum in his shoulder (1 Viewer)

[Max Power]

Just an FYI...

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Chad Johnson has a torn labrum in his shoulder, but plans to play through it.

Johnson did 21 pushups in front of the media Monday. He's in a harness and would need season-ending surgery if the shoulder popped out again, but considers that "unlikely." The signs are pointing to Chad facing Baltimore, but he may have a hard time making it 16 games. Patriots CB Ellis Hobbs played through a torn labrum in 2007, for what it's worth. Pain tolerance could be a big factor for Johnson and he may consistently miss practice time all year.

 

[thehornet]

Just an FYI...NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Chad Johnson has a torn labrum in his shoulder, but plans to play through it.Johnson did 21 pushups in front of the media Monday. He's in a harness and would need season-ending surgery if the shoulder popped out again, but considers that "unlikely." The signs are pointing to Chad facing Baltimore, but he may have a hard time making it 16 games. Patriots CB Ellis Hobbs played through a torn labrum in 2007, for what it's worth. Pain tolerance could be a big factor for Johnson and he may consistently miss practice time all year.

YOINK

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

crap

chad takes some big hits every year when palmer lays him open. i can't see him lasting the whole season.

gee, taking him in every league ("at a bargain price") was really a good move for me.

 

[EBF]

 

[Tom Baker]

Baltimore D, you know what to do . . .

 

[Ozymandias]

Sorry to hear about that, but I wish his torn labrum was in his tongue.

 

[Monk81]

Paging Chris Henry...

 

[mozzy84]

 

[EBF]

Any doctors in the house? How will this injury affect him?

 

[T Bell]

Maybe this will prevent him from patting himself on the back so much.

 

[sholditch]

Awesome. Great dynasty trade there Stan!

 

[LOCO]

 

[Domination]

Paging Chris Henry...

How long is he suspended for?

 

[red]

Any doctors in the house? How will this injury affect him?

whenever someone dislocates their shoulder, by definition they have a torn rotator cuff. the rotator cuff is a series of tendons that hold the humerus (arm bone) in place with the scapula (shoulder joint). the labrum is cartilage used to help support the shoulder joint because it's a rather shallow joint (i.e. the boney articulations are not well connected together). not all labral injuries require surgery. in fact, most labral tears do not require surgery. in patients who have persistent symptoms despite more conservative treatments, surgery may be necessary. i have seen many people who have sustained labral tears only to undergo surgery YEARS after the initial injury. they were still able to do all their daily activities including throwing and even weight lifting (in the case of one of my friends). after the surgery, they of course, need to rest the shoulder for a good couple of weeks before resuming throwing, etc.what does this mean for CJ. i suspect it's a minor tear that is not causing him too much limitation. he'll play, but if it starts to limit his ability to catch or take a hit, then he'll likely require surgery. my guess AND IT'S ONLY A GUESS is that he'll play and be fine unless he dislocates his shoulder again and injurs it further.

 

[thecardiackid]

Paging Chris Henry...

How long is he suspended for?

4 games IIRCEdit - I did not RC. He's back week 5 so 4 games off.

 

[The Stookie Bros]

Any doctors in the house? How will this injury affect him?

whenever someone dislocates their shoulder, by definition they have a torn rotator cuff. the rotator cuff is a series of tendons that hold the humerus (arm bone) in place with the scapula (shoulder joint). the labrum is cartilage used to help support the shoulder joint because it's a rather shallow joint (i.e. the boney articulations are not well connected together). not all labral injuries require surgery. in fact, most labral tears do not require surgery. in patients who have persistent symptoms despite more conservative treatments, surgery may be necessary. i have seen many people who have sustained labral tears only to undergo surgery YEARS after the initial injury. they were still able to do all their daily activities including throwing and even weight lifting (in the case of one of my friends). after the surgery, they of course, need to rest the shoulder for a good couple of weeks before resuming throwing, etc.what does this mean for CJ. i suspect it's a minor tear that is not causing him too much limitation. he'll play, but if it starts to limit his ability to catch or take a hit, then he'll likely require surgery. my guess AND IT'S ONLY A GUESS is that he'll play and be fine unless he dislocates his shoulder again and injurs it further.

Thanks Red...I love this website!!!

 

[BigRed]

My great idea of Palmer as "value" QB takes another hit, if a slight one.

 

[Rounders]

Any doctors in the house? How will this injury affect him?

whenever someone dislocates their shoulder, by definition they have a torn rotator cuff. the rotator cuff is a series of tendons that hold the humerus (arm bone) in place with the scapula (shoulder joint). the labrum is cartilage used to help support the shoulder joint because it's a rather shallow joint (i.e. the boney articulations are not well connected together). not all labral injuries require surgery. in fact, most labral tears do not require surgery. in patients who have persistent symptoms despite more conservative treatments, surgery may be necessary. i have seen many people who have sustained labral tears only to undergo surgery YEARS after the initial injury. they were still able to do all their daily activities including throwing and even weight lifting (in the case of one of my friends). after the surgery, they of course, need to rest the shoulder for a good couple of weeks before resuming throwing, etc.what does this mean for CJ. i suspect it's a minor tear that is not causing him too much limitation. he'll play, but if it starts to limit his ability to catch or take a hit, then he'll likely require surgery. my guess AND IT'S ONLY A GUESS is that he'll play and be fine unless he dislocates his shoulder again and injurs it further.

I hope you are right

 

[greyone]

Paging Chris Henry...

How long is he suspended for?

4 gameshttp://news.footballguys.com/redesign/pp_b...ayerid=HenrCh01

 

[Tat]

I have seen my fair share of labrum repairs, mostly in pitchers and other baseball players.

It will have an effect on his ROM but with the proper protective gear on, he should be fine. However, don't expect to see him going out of his ways on blocking downfield.

 

[trader jake]

So he's good until he's not. Gotcha.

 

[greyone]

I have seen my fair share of labrum repairs, mostly in pitchers and other baseball players.It will have an effect on his ROM but with the proper protective gear on, he should be fine. However, don't expect to see him going out of his ways on blocking downfield.

Range Of Motion

 

[TheFanatic]

Is this an example of CJ trying to make him out to be bigger than he is? So he can say, "hey, I'm a team player. I played through this. I'm a future HOFer. I'm a badass, etc?"

Also, isn't this his contract year? Of course he'll play.

Or is he faking this and trying to get out of practicing for a team he wants to get away from?

 

[EBF]

Any doctors in the house? How will this injury affect him?

whenever someone dislocates their shoulder, by definition they have a torn rotator cuff. the rotator cuff is a series of tendons that hold the humerus (arm bone) in place with the scapula (shoulder joint). the labrum is cartilage used to help support the shoulder joint because it's a rather shallow joint (i.e. the boney articulations are not well connected together). not all labral injuries require surgery. in fact, most labral tears do not require surgery. in patients who have persistent symptoms despite more conservative treatments, surgery may be necessary. i have seen many people who have sustained labral tears only to undergo surgery YEARS after the initial injury. they were still able to do all their daily activities including throwing and even weight lifting (in the case of one of my friends). after the surgery, they of course, need to rest the shoulder for a good couple of weeks before resuming throwing, etc.what does this mean for CJ. i suspect it's a minor tear that is not causing him too much limitation. he'll play, but if it starts to limit his ability to catch or take a hit, then he'll likely require surgery. my guess AND IT'S ONLY A GUESS is that he'll play and be fine unless he dislocates his shoulder again and injurs it further.

 

[Gr00vus]

Maybe this will prevent him from patting himself on the back so much.

He's able to do that with either arm. A very, very talented man.

 

[T Bell]

I have seen my fair share of labrum repairs, mostly in pitchers and other baseball players.

It will have an effect on his ROM but with the proper protective gear on, he should be fine. However, don't expect to see him going out of his ways on blocking downfield.

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Dr. Andrews? What are you doing here?

 

[cobalt_27]

Any doctors in the house? How will this injury affect him?

Not a medical doctor, but I tore my labrum several years ago. Warrior softball injury and all. Absolutely could not lift my arm above my chest for 3 mos. Eventually, I could raise my arm above my head, but it took pretty substantial effort and pain tolerance.It took me a full year to regain complete range of motion.Now...I was neither a world class athelete, nor did I have world class doctors and trainers treating me. But, I don't doubt that he'll be in some pain for the first month, and I would guess he'll miss a few balls thrown high that he would otherwise catch. If he gets tackled and braces his fall with his left arm, that thing is going to smart like hell and, perhaps, make the injury even worse.Clearly not an injury that's a death knell. But, I would be amazed if he can sustain anything remotely resembling a top-20 season for WRs. He'll go way to high for me in this week's draft for me to even give him any consideration.

 

[T Bell]

Maybe this will prevent him from patting himself on the back so much.

He's able to do that with either arm. A very, very talented man.

So he's amphibious? Damn!

 

[JMJ]

Any doctors in the house? How will this injury affect him?

I played a football season, a wrestling season, and 2 baseball seasons (1 Sr. year of HS, 1 freshman year of college) with a torn labrum. It hurts when you throw something and nothing more. I had zero pain swinging a bat with all my strength, zero pain diving and extending for balls in the infield, I even had no problem weightlifting other than doing incline flat bench (I was still able to do incline dumbells).Chad should be fine unless he is a wimp ... which he isn't. Like the original post said, he dropped down and did pushups and Ellis Hobbs (a defensive player who hits people with his shoulder) played a whole season with it.Use this as an opportunity to get CJ below market value.

 

[BigRed]

Maybe this will prevent him from patting himself on the back so much.

He's able to do that with either arm. A very, very talented man.

So he's amphibious? Damn!

No you fool. Amphibious is when you can write with either hand. He's ambiguous.

 

[cobalt_27]

Any doctors in the house? How will this injury affect him?

I played a football season, a wrestling season, and 2 baseball seasons (1 Sr. year of HS, 1 freshman year of college) with a torn labrum. It hurts when you throw something and nothing more. I had zero pain swinging a bat with all my strength, zero pain diving and extending for balls in the infield, I even had no problem weightlifting other than doing incline flat bench (I was still able to do incline dumbells).Chad should be fine unless he is a wimp ... which he isn't. Like the original post said, he dropped down and did pushups and Ellis Hobbs (a defensive player who hits people with his shoulder) played a whole season with it.Use this as an opportunity to get CJ below market value.

Was it a full tear or partial? I was not nearly as happy-a-camper as you seemed to be. Swinging a bat was relatively ok for me. Anything where I could keep my arm level with or below my shoulder was not awesome but not awful either. Anything above that, though? Forget it. :wimp:

 

[buck naked]

Maybe this will prevent him from patting himself on the back so much.

He's able to do that with either arm. A very, very talented man.

So he's amphibious? Damn!

No you fool. Amphibious is when you can write with either hand. He's ambiguous.

Both you guys are off. He's ambivalent.

 

[red]

Any doctors in the house? How will this injury affect him?

Not a medical doctor, but I tore my labrum several years ago. Warrior softball injury and all. Absolutely could not lift my arm above my chest for 3 mos. Eventually, I could raise my arm above my head, but it took pretty substantial effort and pain tolerance.It took me a full year to regain complete range of motion.Now...I was neither a world class athelete, nor did I have world class doctors and trainers treating me. But, I don't doubt that he'll be in some pain for the first month, and I would guess he'll miss a few balls thrown high that he would otherwise catch. If he gets tackled and braces his fall with his left arm, that thing is going to smart like hell and, perhaps, make the injury even worse.Clearly not an injury that's a death knell. But, I would be amazed if he can sustain anything remotely resembling a top-20 season for WRs. He'll go way to high for me in this week's draft for me to even give him any consideration.

understand that there are different degrees of labrum tears. there are anterior or SLAP tears that are common from throwing (i.e baseball players) and usually present with great limitation in ROM due to pain. there are Bankart tears which result from dislocation. arthroscopic surgery is recommended in the young only to prevent future dislocations and is usually done within 10 days of the injury. Late surgical indications include recurrent instability or activity limitations. posterior dislocations are usually associate with a fracture or broken bone. inferior dislocations result in severe pain when the arm is adducted or resting next to the side of the body. here patients often raise their arm or keep it above their head and symptoms are usually associated with some sort of nerve damage and a boney fracture.if you didn't get your shoulder evalauted early, all the other stuff could've healed over the months/years and the only thing noticeable after the fact was the torn labrum. i suspect given your symptoms that you suffered more than just a labral tear from dislocation.

 

[JMJ]

Any doctors in the house? How will this injury affect him?

I played a football season, a wrestling season, and 2 baseball seasons (1 Sr. year of HS, 1 freshman year of college) with a torn labrum. It hurts when you throw something and nothing more. I had zero pain swinging a bat with all my strength, zero pain diving and extending for balls in the infield, I even had no problem weightlifting other than doing incline flat bench (I was still able to do incline dumbells).Chad should be fine unless he is a wimp ... which he isn't. Like the original post said, he dropped down and did pushups and Ellis Hobbs (a defensive player who hits people with his shoulder) played a whole season with it.Use this as an opportunity to get CJ below market value.

Was it a full tear or partial? I was not nearly as happy-a-camper as you seemed to be. Swinging a bat was relatively ok for me. Anything where I could keep my arm level with or below my shoulder was not awesome but not awful either. Anything above that, though? Forget it. :wimp:

It was bad. I had a torn rotator cuff and a torn labrum. When I finally got surgery it was 6.5 hours of surgery and the doc was like, "Wow. That was messed up."I'm built like a tank though. Very good genetics and I've been weightlifting 14 years (only 4 years at the time of the injury though). The doc said that the strength in my shoulders and all the muscles around it helped stabilize everything and allowed me to do things most others cant when they have the same injury. Chad is a physical specimin in top notch condition. I'm sure he should be able to do the same (especially since he was doing pushups in front of reporters).

 

[Blackjacks]

Is this an example of CJ trying to make him out to be bigger than he is? So he can say, "hey, I'm a team player. I played through this. I'm a future HOFer. I'm a badass, etc?"Also, isn't this his contract year? Of course he'll play.Or is he faking this and trying to get out of practicing for a team he wants to get away from?

I believe he is signed through 2012

 

[TheFanatic]

Is this an example of CJ trying to make him out to be bigger than he is? So he can say, "hey, I'm a team player. I played through this. I'm a future HOFer. I'm a badass, etc?"Also, isn't this his contract year? Of course he'll play.Or is he faking this and trying to get out of practicing for a team he wants to get away from?

I believe he is signed through 2012

Is he really? I thought this was the last year of his contract....Wow....sucks for him if he really wants out...Maybe, just maybe, if he's lucky, Jerry Jones will offer the Bengals some picks for the guy...

 

[Couch Potato]

Maybe this will prevent him from patting himself on the back so much.

He's able to do that with either arm. A very, very talented man.

So he's amphibious? Damn!

No you fool. Amphibious is when you can write with either hand. He's ambiguous.

Both you guys are off. He's ambivalent.

I've seen him eat candy with both hands. He's ambidextrose.

 

[cobalt_27]

Any doctors in the house? How will this injury affect him?

Not a medical doctor, but I tore my labrum several years ago. Warrior softball injury and all. Absolutely could not lift my arm above my chest for 3 mos. Eventually, I could raise my arm above my head, but it took pretty substantial effort and pain tolerance.It took me a full year to regain complete range of motion.Now...I was neither a world class athelete, nor did I have world class doctors and trainers treating me. But, I don't doubt that he'll be in some pain for the first month, and I would guess he'll miss a few balls thrown high that he would otherwise catch. If he gets tackled and braces his fall with his left arm, that thing is going to smart like hell and, perhaps, make the injury even worse.Clearly not an injury that's a death knell. But, I would be amazed if he can sustain anything remotely resembling a top-20 season for WRs. He'll go way to high for me in this week's draft for me to even give him any consideration.

understand that there are different degrees of labrum tears. there are anterior or SLAP tears that are common from throwing (i.e baseball players) and usually present with great limitation in ROM due to pain. there are Bankart tears which result from dislocation. arthroscopic surgery is recommended in the young only to prevent future dislocations and is usually done within 10 days of the injury. Late surgical indications include recurrent instability or activity limitations. posterior dislocations are usually associate with a fracture or broken bone. inferior dislocations result in severe pain when the arm is adducted or resting next to the side of the body. here patients often raise their arm or keep it above their head and symptoms are usually associated with some sort of nerve damage and a boney fracture.if you didn't get your shoulder evalauted early, all the other stuff could've healed over the months/years and the only thing noticeable after the fact was the torn labrum. i suspect given your symptoms that you suffered more than just a labral tear from dislocation.

Yeah, I had a SLAP lesion and they think there was a slight fracture, but MRI was inconclusive. Had some testing for nerve damage, which was negative. No discussion of a Bankart tear, though. Shoulder was pretty unstable for the first few months but got better as time progressed. We discussed getting arthroscopic surgery, but docs and I agreed that the literature really didn't support any better prognosis going that route as opposed to rehabbing the thing, which is how we eventually treated it. And, we were certainly well past the 10 days of injury before I even got the MRI, so according to your blurb here, it probably wouldn't have been much of a benefit, anyway.All this said, it raises a good point about how variable these things can be. So, he may very well be just fine. I just wouldn't invest much in him this year, that's all.

 

[Couch Potato]

Is this an example of CJ trying to make him out to be bigger than he is? So he can say, "hey, I'm a team player. I played through this. I'm a future HOFer. I'm a badass, etc?"

Also, isn't this his contract year? Of course he'll play.

Or is he faking this and trying to get out of practicing for a team he wants to get away from?

I believe he is signed through 2012

Is he really? I thought this was the last year of his contract....Wow....sucks for him if he really wants out...Maybe, just maybe, if he's lucky, Jerry Jones will offer the Bengals some picks for the guy...

Confirmed.Contract Information for Chad Johnson

4/20/2006: Signed a six-year, $35.5 million contract. The deal included a $5 million signing bonus, a $3.5 million second-year option bonus, and annual workout bonuses of $250,000. 2008: $3 million, 2009: $4.5 million, 2010: $5 million, 2011: $6 million (Club Option), 2012: Free Agent. Cap charge: $6.3 million (2008). If the Bengals don't exercise their 2011 option, they'll owe Johnson a $3.5 million payment.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...NFL&id=2544

 

[tonydead]

Any doctors in the house? How will this injury affect him?

I played a football season, a wrestling season, and 2 baseball seasons (1 Sr. year of HS, 1 freshman year of college) with a torn labrum. It hurts when you throw something and nothing more. I had zero pain swinging a bat with all my strength, zero pain diving and extending for balls in the infield, I even had no problem weightlifting other than doing incline flat bench (I was still able to do incline dumbells).Chad should be fine unless he is a wimp ... which he isn't. Like the original post said, he dropped down and did pushups and Ellis Hobbs (a defensive player who hits people with his shoulder) played a whole season with it.Use this as an opportunity to get CJ below market value.

Was it a full tear or partial? I was not nearly as happy-a-camper as you seemed to be. Swinging a bat was relatively ok for me. Anything where I could keep my arm level with or below my shoulder was not awesome but not awful either. Anything above that, though? Forget it. :wimp:

It was bad. I had a torn rotator cuff and a torn labrum. When I finally got surgery it was 6.5 hours of surgery and the doc was like, "Wow. That was messed up."I'm built like a tank though. Very good genetics and I've been weightlifting 14 years (only 4 years at the time of the injury though). The doc said that the strength in my shoulders and all the muscles around it helped stabilize everything and allowed me to do things most others cant when they have the same injury. Chad is a physical specimin in top notch condition. I'm sure he should be able to do the same (especially since he was doing pushups in front of reporters).

That's the thing with these injuries. It depends more on the person than the actual injury. I've had the tear and the surgery and my shoulder still isn't right. With these athletes it's usually a better story. If he's doing push ups already, he's probably fine, but you never know -> I avoid the risk for drafts this week.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

We don't know what degree this torn tendon is in, if you haven't drafted yet it's a risk. To take C. Johnson you need some value, if you don't drop him down a notch, you're silly. There is added risk here.

If you already have C. Johnson, then you just hope nothing else happens but you can't feel as confident as you were before the injury, you just can't.

What looked like a super solid group of WR's a month ago is shakey to start this season.

Steve Smith suspended

B. Marshall suspended

C. Johnson torn tendon in the shoulder

Houshman has a hamstring pull

Marvin and Wayne's QB is a little more dinged than originally thought

Randy's QB has one foot

Some is a little more serious than others, but it's like you're trying to pick the lesser of two evils here with some of these.

I had Johnson ranked above Steve Smith for the season after the suspension, but now with this odd injury news, the 2 games by Smith to start off the season might be nothing compared to the crap you're going to have to listen to if you draft C. Johnson all year.

I don't like Cinci's offense to begin with this year. I'm going to have to get some good value for me to pull the trigger on Johnson in my remaining drafts.

 

[cobalt_27]

Chad is a physical specimin in top notch condition. I'm sure he should be able to do the same (especially since he was doing pushups in front of reporters).

Certainly, I haven't evaluated him, and I don't know. But, I'd much rather see him demonstrate that he can lift weights above his head over doing a few push-ups while keeping his arms at/below shoulder level. Again, as has been pointed out here by folks more expert than me, there's a lot of variability here with respect to this kind of an injury. I'm just not convinced by this that he's alright.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Any doctors in the house? How will this injury affect him?

whenever someone dislocates their shoulder, by definition they have a torn rotator cuff. the rotator cuff is a series of tendons that hold the humerus (arm bone) in place with the scapula (shoulder joint). the labrum is cartilage used to help support the shoulder joint because it's a rather shallow joint (i.e. the boney articulations are not well connected together). not all labral injuries require surgery. in fact, most labral tears do not require surgery. in patients who have persistent symptoms despite more conservative treatments, surgery may be necessary. i have seen many people who have sustained labral tears only to undergo surgery YEARS after the initial injury. they were still able to do all their daily activities including throwing and even weight lifting (in the case of one of my friends). after the surgery, they of course, need to rest the shoulder for a good couple of weeks before resuming throwing, etc.what does this mean for CJ. i suspect it's a minor tear that is not causing him too much limitation. he'll play, but if it starts to limit his ability to catch or take a hit, then he'll likely require surgery. my guess AND IT'S ONLY A GUESS is that he'll play and be fine unless he dislocates his shoulder again and injurs it further.

BTW, Red........good stuff. You didn't come across as a know it all yet loaded with quality info.

 

[Ozymandias]

Maybe this will prevent him from patting himself on the back so much.

He's able to do that with either arm. A very, very talented man.

So he's amphibious? Damn!

No you fool. Amphibious is when you can write with either hand. He's ambiguous.

Both you guys are off. He's ambivalent.

I've seen him eat candy with both hands. He's ambidextrose.

You guys don't know your Latin. The correct scientific term for this is ambipattstrous.

 

[TheFanatic]

Is this an example of CJ trying to make him out to be bigger than he is? So he can say, "hey, I'm a team player. I played through this. I'm a future HOFer. I'm a badass, etc?"

Also, isn't this his contract year? Of course he'll play.

Or is he faking this and trying to get out of practicing for a team he wants to get away from?

I believe he is signed through 2012

Is he really? I thought this was the last year of his contract....Wow....sucks for him if he really wants out...Maybe, just maybe, if he's lucky, Jerry Jones will offer the Bengals some picks for the guy...

Confirmed.Contract Information for Chad Johnson

4/20/2006: Signed a six-year, $35.5 million contract. The deal included a $5 million signing bonus, a $3.5 million second-year option bonus, and annual workout bonuses of $250,000. 2008: $3 million, 2009: $4.5 million, 2010: $5 million, 2011: $6 million (Club Option), 2012: Free Agent. Cap charge: $6.3 million (2008). If the Bengals don't exercise their 2011 option, they'll owe Johnson a $3.5 million payment.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...NFL&id=2544

Sorry for the hijack, but I gotta say his agent needs to be fired...

 

[fatness]

I've seen him eat candy with both hands. He's ambidextrose.

I believe the word you're searching for is "bituminous".

 

[amnesiac]

Is this an example of CJ trying to make him out to be bigger than he is? So he can say, "hey, I'm a team player. I played through this. I'm a future HOFer. I'm a badass, etc?"Also, isn't this his contract year? Of course he'll play.Or is he faking this and trying to get out of practicing for a team he wants to get away from?

or maybe he tore his labrum?

 

[JMJ]

Chad is a physical specimin in top notch condition. I'm sure he should be able to do the same (especially since he was doing pushups in front of reporters).

Certainly, I haven't evaluated him, and I don't know. But, I'd much rather see him demonstrate that he can lift weights above his head over doing a few push-ups while keeping his arms at/below shoulder level. Again, as has been pointed out here by folks more expert than me, there's a lot of variability here with respect to this kind of an injury. I'm just not convinced by this that he's alright.

Pushups is primarily a deltoid and tricep workout. When you do pushups (or even bench press for that matter), it works your chest, but your chest muslces actually have ZERO to do with puching/lifting the weight. It is all your triceps and deltoids (shoulders) that are pushing the weight, your chest just gets a workout due to the fact that your chest muscles are the muscles taking the impact of the weight pushing back down on your body. The pressure pushing back is what tears the muscle fibers in your chest thus making your chest soar and in turn, grow when the fibers heal.The fact that he was doing pushups is very telling as 50% of a pushup is your shoulder muscles and shoulder strength.

Does this mean he is 100% fine? No it doesn't. However, it is still relevant.

 

[Rounders]

I got to wonder why this information is even being released. I mean why can't they call it a sprained shoulder and move forward? Why give your opponents anything to gun for?

Very odd, if you ask me.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Just an FYI...NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Chad Johnson has a torn labrum in his shoulder, but plans to play through it.Johnson did 21 pushups in front of the media Monday. He's in a harness and would need season-ending surgery if the shoulder popped out again, but considers that "unlikely." The signs are pointing to Chad facing Baltimore, but he may have a hard time making it 16 games. Patriots CB Ellis Hobbs played through a torn labrum in 2007, for what it's worth. Pain tolerance could be a big factor for Johnson and he may consistently miss practice time all year.

Where you at, 85%?