Chad Pennington To Start (1 Viewer)

[R.White]

August 2, 2006, 07:03

Jets :: QB

QB Pennington Wins Jets' Starting Job

Dave Hutchinson, Newark Star-Ledger - [Full Article]

QB Chad Pennington has won the Jets' starting job, according to a team official with knowledge of the team's plans. The official, who requested anonymity because HC Eric Mangini isn't ready to make a formal announcement, said the competition at quarterback is over. Pennington, the official said, has surprised the organization with his arm strength and accuracy, easily outdistancing himself from QB Patrick Ramsey. "We're surprised at the progress he's made," the official said. "No one expected him to be this far along this early."

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[fruity pebbles]

I don't think there was ever really an open competition. Unless Pennington looked absolutely horrible, the job was his.

 

[Bri]

Interesting, half expected but always had to wonder about him overcoming that injury.

Should note, this is NY. Clemens threw 2 INTs yesterday and they said "he's clearly not ready".....only in NY. The days before he's all the talk. I'm impressed he's running with the first team and has done well the other days. It's no longer just the Jets saying he looked good but other papers and sites saying they see this kid has a real future.

Can Pennington last a full season? Can the Jets win enough to not put Clemens in?

Wonder what the cap hit is if they dump Ramsey? Bollinger seems a better fill in guy if Clemens isn't ready.

 

[Z-Dog]

What this indicates is that Pennington has recovered his physical tools. Some of us were speculating that Pennington would simply not have NFL-caliber stuff anymore, simliar to waht Don Majikowski experienced coming back from a torn rotator cuff. However, it appears that Pennington's physical recovery, at least as far as strength and accuracy, haver returned. This is big news, since at last year's camp, Pennington was NOT accurate, and readliy admitted that the balls just weren't going where he meant to put them (story of Pat Ramsey's life...)

Obviously, we don't know whether Pennington will last the season - he has never played a complete season. But this may change the equation at the number 2 position. Ramsey is the kind of guy you might try to develop into a #1, but is currently unreliable, even as a #2, imo. Bollinger is a guy who will never be a #1, but gives you a lot of good things for a #2, like leadership and mobility. Given that Clemmens is the future, I could see an early camp win by Chad leading to Ramsey being the odd man out.

 

[Two Deep]

I don't think there was ever really an open competition. Unless Pennington looked absolutely horrible, the job was his.

I have too tell you fruity that avatar makes me uncomfortable.

 

[Jiggyonthehut]

I actually think he wll end up starting at least 1/2 the season- and perhaps a change made on the week 9 bye.

Pennington faces two favorable matchups (Tennessee and Buffalo) and two unfavorable matchups (New England and Indianapolis) in his first 4 weeks. A .500 record would most likely have them tied for second in the divison (doing a little personal analysis) and put them in great shape come october. However, here's where the wheels start to fall off. Games against Jacksonville, Miami (divisional), Cleveland, and Detroit. While the Jets may go 2-2 over this stretch, hitting the bye week, its probably more likely that they go 1-3 or perhaps worse.

With a best case scenario of being 4-4 come the bye, It leaves the Jets' within striking distance. Miami will likely be either 5-3 or 6-2 at this point and New England will most likely be 5-3 or 4-4. Even if the Jets' fall to 3-5 over the eight game stretch, theyre still in the hunt for the division.

So I think he sticks around if he's healthy. Yeah i know, IF he's healthy.

 

[Kiddnets]

As an avid Jet fan was surprised at this as well – I think they figure to throw Chad out there like a sacrificial lamb for a few games. He stinks they can replace him and have no controversy – they bench him now and it is much more controversial. Plus he can be the tackling dummy while OL comes together – I give him 50/50 to survive first 4 weeks. Ramsey will then stink it up for a few weeks followed by Clemmens getting some time last few games. Clemmens will start next year

Any way you cut it - its going to be a long year for the Jets - A Peterson in 2007?

 

[TheLaw]

how can a competition be won after 3 days of camp???

 

[Z-Dog]

As an avid Jet fan was surprised at this as well – I think they figure to throw Chad out there like a sacrificial lamb for a few games. He stinks they can replace him and have no controversy – they bench him now and it is much more controversial. Plus he can be the tackling dummy while OL comes together – I give him 50/50 to survive first 4 weeks. Ramsey will then stink it up for a few weeks followed by Clemmens getting some time last few games. Clemmens will start next yearAny way you cut it - its going to be a long year for the Jets - A Peterson in 2007?

If Chad Pennington stays healthy, he's easily the best QB on the roster. He's got playoff wins under his belt and the respect of all of his teammates. The problem has been his fragility, but we've all seen guys go through a rough patch and the return to reliability. If Pennington is healthy, Clemmens won't see the field for a while. It's about results. Pennington is a winning QB with the mental toughness you need to play in NY, and to play QB. The Jets aren't going to simply discard him if he is healthy - someone is going to have to come and take his job. As for survival, I guess everyone's got a different take. I think the O-line this year is much better than last year, just from a cohesiveness perspective. Sure, losing Mawae is a blow, but at least everyone gets to start off together, as a cohesive unit. The rookies might make some mistakes, but last year's line was a disaster, with constant injuries, players playing out of position, and ancient vets called in off the street to take some reps. I suspect that the protection this year will be better, and that Pennington will remain alrgely upright. FBG, btw, has the NYJ line rated as something like the 17th-best line in the league, or dead average.

 

[trader jake]

how can a competition be won after 3 days of camp???

when there isn't a real competition

 

[Chase Stuart]

how can a competition be won after 3 days of camp???

When it's reported by an anonymous source.

 

[Z-Dog]

how can a competition be won after 3 days of camp???

When it's reported by an anonymous source.

Fair enough. But if Pennington looks like his arm-strengthn and accuracy are back, I don't think ti would take more than three days to prove he is a quantum leap ahead of the other guys. Let's not forget that this is the same Chad Pennington who led the league in passer rating, who destroyed the Manning-led Colts in the playoffs 41-0, throwing 3 TDs and finishing with a 141.0 passer rating. It's the same Chad Pennington who went into Oakland in the last game of the season and won to secure a wildcard spot. The same Chad Pennington who, with a torn rotator cuff managed to beat the San Diego Chargers in San Diego in the playoffs. It's sort of obvious that this guy, if healthy, is miles better than Pat Ramsey, Brooks Bollinger, and a rookie 2nd-rounder. You don't need a protracted battle to prove that.

 

[nightshift]

Not so fast!

Contrary to an earlier report, the New York Jets' starting quarterback job is still uncertain. A source with knowledge of the situation told ESPN that a Newark Star-Ledger report that QB Chad Pennington had won New York's starting quarterback job was incorrect. The source told ESPN that no decision has been made yet about who would start against Tennessee in the season opener.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Not so fast!

Contrary to an earlier report, the New York Jets' starting quarterback job is still uncertain. A source with knowledge of the situation told ESPN that a Newark Star-Ledger report that QB Chad Pennington had won New York's starting quarterback job was incorrect. The source told ESPN that no decision has been made yet about who would start against Tennessee in the season opener.

It's possible that another "source" was told to muddy the waters after the first "source" painted a clearer picture.

 

[Z-Dog]

On some level, I'm more interested in how Mangini deals with an unauthorized leak in his organization than with the actual truth of the reports. What's clear to those who have been to TC is that Pennington has more zip on his balls and is accurate. If that remains true, there is no QB on the roster who can unseat him.

 

[NoFBinLA]

Not so fast!

Contrary to an earlier report, the New York Jets' starting quarterback job is still uncertain. A source with knowledge of the situation told ESPN that a Newark Star-Ledger report that QB Chad Pennington had won New York's starting quarterback job was incorrect. The source told ESPN that no decision has been made yet about who would start against Tennessee in the season opener.

It's possible that another "source" was told to muddy the waters after the first "source" painted a clearer picture.

Or visa versa.Or Mangini isn't sure. Or maybe the Pats are spreading misinformation from their evil New England lair to distract the Jets. Because they have to be worried about this powerhouse team..... Ok, that last part isn't likely....

 

[Chase Stuart]

how can a competition be won after 3 days of camp???

When it's reported by an anonymous source.

Fair enough. But if Pennington looks like his arm-strengthn and accuracy are back, I don't think ti would take more than three days to prove he is a quantum leap ahead of the other guys. Let's not forget that this is the same Chad Pennington who led the league in passer rating, who destroyed the Manning-led Colts in the playoffs 41-0, throwing 3 TDs and finishing with a 141.0 passer rating. It's the same Chad Pennington who went into Oakland in the last game of the season and won to secure a wildcard spot. The same Chad Pennington who, with a torn rotator cuff managed to beat the San Diego Chargers in San Diego in the playoffs. It's sort of obvious that this guy, if healthy, is miles better than Pat Ramsey, Brooks Bollinger, and a rookie 2nd-rounder. You don't need a protracted battle to prove that.

Close enough. Vinny went into Oakland to win that wildcard spot.No one doubts that a 100% healthy Pennington is better than Ramsey/Bollinger/Clemens, and a handful of starting QBs in the league. The question is if and how long will he ever be 100%.

 

[TheFanatic]

Not so fast!

Contrary to an earlier report, the New York Jets' starting quarterback job is still uncertain. A source with knowledge of the situation told ESPN that a Newark Star-Ledger report that QB Chad Pennington had won New York's starting quarterback job was incorrect. The source told ESPN that no decision has been made yet about who would start against Tennessee in the season opener.

It's possible that another "source" was told to muddy the waters after the first "source" painted a clearer picture.

Or visa versa.Or Mangini isn't sure. Or maybe the Pats are spreading misinformation from their evil New England lair to distract the Jets. Because they have to be worried about this powerhouse team..... Ok, that last part isn't likely....

Working from home today and had the NFL network on. They played a Mangini Press Conference from today and he was asked to confirm the story that Penny won the job. He said no one has won the job and that they would keep the same rotation of QB's in training camo until one of them wins the starting job by playing well and consistent.From Mangini himself, Penny has not won the job and he did not indicate if any of the QB's was in the lead in the competition for the starter. He even mentioned Brooks Bollinger so this thing is still wide open....Sorry no link. It was just on TV in the last couple of hours...

 

[TSB_VaKnight]

August 2, 2006, 07:03

Jets :: QB

QB Pennington Wins Jets' Starting Job

Dave Hutchinson, Newark Star-Ledger - [Full Article]

QB Chad Pennington has won the Jets' starting job, according to a team official with knowledge of the team's plans. The official, who requested anonymity because HC Eric Mangini isn't ready to make a formal announcement, said the competition at quarterback is over. Pennington, the official said, has surprised the organization with his arm strength and accuracy, easily outdistancing himself from QB Patrick Ramsey. "We're surprised at the progress he's made," the official said. "No one expected him to be this far along this early."

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Well, with his history, you can bet the coaches are working more with his b/u than him!!

 

[Football Jones]

If Pennington, indeed, has won the job, good for him. This kid has been thru the ringer. I'm really skeptical, but Penny doesn't need a gun to be effective. If he's maintained his accuracy with all the shoulder trouble, he can be an effective QB (maybe even a good QB).

Still, Kellen Clemens is the future. I don't believe the Jets will make the playoffs anytime soon & that fact, alone, will put pressure on Mangini to give Clemens a shot (sooner or later). However, if Pennington plays well enough, he's young enough to get a starting job somewhere else once the Jets go to Clemens.

 

[Big Score]

Working from home today and had the NFL network on. They played a Mangini Press Conference from today and he was asked to confirm the story that Penny won the job. He said no one has won the job and that they would keep the same rotation of QB's in training camo until one of them wins the starting job by playing well and consistent.From Mangini himself, Penny has not won the job and he did not indicate if any of the QB's was in the lead in the competition for the starter. He even mentioned Brooks Bollinger so this thing is still wide open....Sorry no link. It was just on TV in the last couple of hours...

C'mon now TheFanatic.Who do you think we're gonna believe here?Mangini, the Jets HC? orFBG's, via The Blogger?

 

[TheFanatic]

Working from home today and had the NFL network on. They played a Mangini Press Conference from today and he was asked to confirm the story that Penny won the job. He said no one has won the job and that they would keep the same rotation of QB's in training camo until one of them wins the starting job by playing well and consistent.

From Mangini himself, Penny has not won the job and he did not indicate if any of the QB's was in the lead in the competition for the starter. He even mentioned Brooks Bollinger so this thing is still wide open....

Sorry no link. It was just on TV in the last couple of hours...

C'mon now TheFanatic.Who do you think we're gonna believe here?

Mangini, the Jets HC?

or

FBG's, via The Blogger?

Link to Article

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

Not so fast!

Contrary to an earlier report, the New York Jets' starting quarterback job is still uncertain. A source with knowledge of the situation told ESPN that a Newark Star-Ledger report that QB Chad Pennington had won New York's starting quarterback job was incorrect. The source told ESPN that no decision has been made yet about who would start against Tennessee in the season opener.

It's possible that another "source" was told to muddy the waters after the first "source" painted a clearer picture.

Or visa versa.Or Mangini isn't sure. Or maybe the Pats are spreading misinformation from their evil New England lair to distract the Jets. Because they have to be worried about this powerhouse team..... Ok, that last part isn't likely....

I was thinking maybe the Jets are trying to spread misinformation. Although I'd be very shocked if (a healthy) Pennington was not named the starter.

 

[AB in DC]

Most likely, he's way out in the lead and will be starter week one unless he really screws up.

Even then, I wouldn't be surprised to see Kellen Clemens starting games by Thanksgiving.

 

[Big Score]

Working from home today and had the NFL network on. They played a Mangini Press Conference from today and he was asked to confirm the story that Penny won the job. He said no one has won the job and that they would keep the same rotation of QB's in training camo until one of them wins the starting job by playing well and consistent.

From Mangini himself, Penny has not won the job and he did not indicate if any of the QB's was in the lead in the competition for the starter. He even mentioned Brooks Bollinger so this thing is still wide open....

Sorry no link. It was just on TV in the last couple of hours...

C'mon now TheFanatic.Who do you think we're gonna believe here?

Mangini, the Jets HC?

or

FBG's, via The Blogger?

Link to Article

C'mon man.Just because you heard Mangini, the Jets HC say it and now you've come across some lame article from the Jets local beat writer who has probably attended every mini camp, OTA & all TC's and seen Pennington in person and can interview the players & Mangini personally....

....you really expect us to take that over FBG's via the blogger?

What are you....insane?