Chad vs. Housh (1 Viewer)

[AnonymousBob]

Last year the Bengals had a mess along the offensive line. Rudi Johnson went down. Housh had his career year and was more consistent than Chad but Ocho Cinco still managed to outperform him. It was by only 9 points. Despite all the controversy surrounding CJ he had a fairly average year by his standards with 93 receptions 1,440 yards and 8 td's.

Housh had a career year with 112 receptions, 1,143 yards and 12 td's.

So...going into 2008, which wr would you prefer to have in your lineup?

 

[Ack88]

For all his distractions and week to week inconsistencies, I'll still take CJ, although it's close. While there is an obvious downside to the 3-37 weeks, he can win a game by himself when he goes for 8-176-3, which he will do from time to time. Last year Housh may have become the #1 in Cincy, but until he does it again, I'm still inclined to give CJ the slight nod. We have VERY short memories in fantasy football and are inclined to make sweeping statements/judgements with a small sample size of data (ie: one down season after years of productivity).

 

[AnonymousBob]

For all his distractions and week to week inconsistencies, I'll still take CJ, although it's close. While there is an obvious downside to the 3-37 weeks, he can win a game by himself when he goes for 8-176-3, which he will do from time to time. Last year Housh may have become the #1 in Cincy, but until he does it again, I'm still inclined to give CJ the slight nod. We have VERY short memories in fantasy football and are inclined to make sweeping statements/judgements with a small sample size of data (ie: one down season after years of productivity).

The second half of 2006 Housh was outperforming Chad. While I understand the explosive factor, this isn't just a one year trend.

 

[The Man with the Plan]

Non-ppr: CJ > Housh

Ppr: Housh > CJ

 

[-jb-]

FF Production: CJ>Housh

Ability: CJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Housh

Number of Screws Loose: CJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Housh

 

[QUEZILLA]

Chad will get huge games, and then have a string of poor performances.

 

[AnonymousBob]

FF Production: CJ>HoushAbility: CJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HoushNumber of Screws Loose: CJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Housh

Consistency: Housh>CJAnd based upon last year and the second half of the season before the production is pretty similar.

 

[Dancing Bear]

Chad has been the better WR consistently since they each joined the league in 2002.

Chad has played in 92 straight regular season games.

In the last 4 years Chad has averaged:

157 targets, 93 receptions, 1379 yards and 9 TD's. This is an average ranking of WR6.

In the last 4 years T.J. has averaged:

130 targets, 88 receptions, 1040 yards and 8 TD's. This is an average ranking of WR16.

Even with T.J.'s stellar year, Chad out-performed him.

From the standpoint of stinkers, consider this comparison.

Chad averages 1.0 less game per year with 1-5 ppg

T.J. averages 2.5 less games per with 6-10 ppg

Chad averages 1.0 less game per year with 11-15 ppg

T.J. averages 0.5 less games per with 16-20 ppg

Chad averages 1.0 less game per with 21-25 ppg

T.J. averages 1.3 less games per with 25+ ppg

Or simply looking at their distribution of points per game,

Chad has a 14% chance for a game with 1-5 ppg

Chad has a 42% chance for a game with 6-10 ppg

Chad has a 17% chance for a game with 11-15 ppg

Chad has a 14% chance for a game with 16-20 ppg

Chad has a 3% chance for a game with 21-25 ppg

Chad has a 9% chance for a game with 25+ ppg

T.J. has a 22% chance for a game with 1-5 ppg

T.J. has a 29% chance for a game with 6-10 ppg

T.J. has a 25% chance for a game with 11-15 ppg

T.J. has a 12% chance for a game with 16-20 ppg

T.J. has a 10% chance for a game with 21-25 ppg

T.J. has a 2% chance for a game with 25+ ppg

As long as Chad's ankle surgery is successful, he no doubt will give you the same 191 points for the season and T.J. will give you 157.

 

[tonydead]

Ocho Quatro

 

[LBH]

Ill take Housh. i think TJs ability is underrated, and that CJ gets too much credit for Housh's production as a guy who commands double teams. From watching the few Bengals games i saw last year, it looks to me that Palmer has a better repoire with Housh, and targets him more often

 

[Chunky Soup]

FF Production: CJ>HoushAbility: CJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HoushNumber of Screws Loose: CJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Housh

 

[KellysHeroes]

I've been Drafting CJ all yr... usually in the 3rd round, and I always will draft CJ over Housh.

Last yr was one of the 1st yrs that Housh was injuried or slowed... he usually banged up.

Heres the thing, we all know how it is w/ CJ... he'll either get you 3 or 30pts... that just how it is. When you draft CJ, you need a solid WR2 and something Decent in the flex to get you through the weeks hes a non-factor.

 

[trader jake]

I trust Chad Johnson on the field more than TJ. If the Bengals ever do run the ball more (or if Utecht has a decent season) I would guess that TJ would see his numbers negatively effected before Chad Johnson would.

 

[burd]

id go w/ Hoosh only because CJ is unhappy in Cincy. TO was unhappy in Philly and Randy moss was unhappy in Oakland. Both were great players who underperformed when they were unhappy about either money or the team. Johnson IS unhappy about both. idk ... i'd take the safe bet and take Hoosh. Their stats are very comperable and i don't see the point of taking a risk on CJ. Yeah, i know he's been the model player and has never done anything "negative" before, but this seems like an issue that is slowly growing. Atleast agree with me in that the CJ vs Cincy situation hasn't gotten better in the past couple of years.

 

[AnonymousBob]

Does Chris Henry rejoining the team affect anyone's opinion?