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Chargers accuse Cedric Benson of taking self out of game (1 Viewer)

Keith Lewis

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Bringing the bile for Benson

Bears coach Lovie Smith (don't worry, I have enough bile left for the Cubs) has refused to have an open competititon for the quarterback and running back spots, places where Jerry Angelo spent first-round draft picks.

Connect the dots, people. I mean, Smith demoted one of his Super Bowl defensive ends -- the wrong one, it says here -- but it worked out because all three of them made big plays last week, so the idea that your job is on the line seems to make sense, more sense than just handing the job to Cedric Benson. What really frosts me is not so much that I believe Angelo is dictating Smith's decision in these two areas, but that Benson acts like he's entitled to it and makes public the slights from teammates, real or imagined, as if to say, "Mommy, make it stop.''

Trib colleague David Haugh suggests Adrian Peterson should be given a start ahead of Benson to get the attention of Benson and the rest of the team. I don't think Peterson is the answer--and really, neither does Haugh. Peterson hasn't been for the series of coaching staffs around here. Thing is, it really doesn't matter if Peterson is the answer as long as the Bears are afraid to confront the question the right way.

But wait. It gets worse. First, there was some unnamed Charger talking about how they figured they could make Benson quit the way he is viewed as quitting on his team in the Super Bowl. Here's the key part from what I highlighted yesterday:

"I talk to guys around the league. [benson] took himself out of the Super Bowl. That's letting down your team. I guess that's what kind of guy he is. We knew that, and we played accordingly."

First of all, talking to "guys around the league'' sounds like a bunch of hooey. You don't get that "quit'' label from guys around the league. You get it from a guy's teammate. I mean, who would know whether Benson quit on his team better than a teammate in the Super Bowl locker room and on the Super Bowl sideline? So I'm thinking that unnamed Charger has some unnamed Bears friends.

But now a Charger has put his name to some comments that will damn Benson for now, for a while and maybe forever: Shaun Phillips echoed the idea that Benson is considered soft to the point that the Chargers built their game plan around it.

"When we studied him that was one of our knocks on him. If you hit him a little bit he can get a little disgruntled and talk a little trash to him and give him a couple of shots, he'll fold and take it in," Phillips told a San Diego radio show. "That's what we were able to do and I'm pretty sure that's going to haunt him the rest of his career." :shrug:

This gets back to the refusal to allow someone to compete with Benson the way the Bears refused to allow anyone to compete with Rex Grossman, and it's clearly because of the mental and emotional stuff. The Bears coddle and enable in a game where toughness is the coin of the realm. Grossman seems like he can handle mental and emotional adversity like an adult. Benson not so much. Not even close a lot of times. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Jerry Angelo's idea of a "special"' back. Thank you, good night, and drive home safer than Lance Briggs.

 
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You think this forum really needed another anti-Cedric Benson thread?

You are nuts man. Why such hatred for the guy? Do you know him personally?

 
Where do they say he faked an injury? I'm not seeing it.
"I talk to guys around the league. [benson] took himself out of the Super Bowl. That's letting down your team. I guess that's what kind of guy he is. We knew that, and we played accordingly."
 
Why in the world would the Bears put the franchise in the hands off a guy who took himself out of the Super Bowl with a fake injury? I'm calling b.s., I don't buy it.

 
Why in the world would the Bears put the franchise in the hands off a guy who took himself out of the Super Bowl with a fake injury? I'm calling b.s., I don't buy it.
If my memory is right Thomas Jones wanted out of Chicago? I'm not 100% positive cause I never hear this mentioned.
 
Why in the world would the Bears put the franchise in the hands off a guy who took himself out of the Super Bowl with a fake injury? I'm calling b.s., I don't buy it.
Of course they wouldnt. Dont you think their medical staff examined him? Stay classy San Diego.
 
Where do they say he faked an injury? I'm not seeing it.
"I talk to guys around the league. [benson] took himself out of the Super Bowl. That's letting down your team. I guess that's what kind of guy he is. We knew that, and we played accordingly."
I'm not getting "faking injury" from that. In fact neither "fake" nor "injury" even appear in the quote.Maybe he took himself out of the game because he actually was injured? They may be implying that he should have been tougher and tried to play through it, but I'm not seeing fake injury anywhere in there.

Fix your thread title.

 
Why in the world would the Bears put the franchise in the hands off a guy who took himself out of the Super Bowl with a fake injury? I'm calling b.s., I don't buy it.
Because they didn't want to pay both Benson and Thomas Jones. Thinking they could get by with Benson the way the got by with Grossman last year.
 
"When we studied him that was one of our knocks on him. If you hit him a little bit he can get a little disgruntled and talk a little trash to him and give him a couple of shots, he'll fold and take it in," Phillips told a San Diego radio show. "That's what we were able to do and I'm pretty sure that's going to haunt him the rest of his career.

I was listening to Sirius and heard a Charger player talking about this.He is gonna need to show some toughness to get this off his back.IF its true he can expect to get hit hard every week.I own this guy in a few leagues.

 
Where do they say he faked an injury? I'm not seeing it.
"I talk to guys around the league. [benson] took himself out of the Super Bowl. That's letting down your team. I guess that's what kind of guy he is. We knew that, and we played accordingly."
I'm not getting "faking injury" from that. In fact neither "fake" nor "injury" even appear in the quote.Maybe he took himself out of the game because he actually was injured? They may be implying that he should have been tougher and tried to play through it, but I'm not seeing fake injury anywhere in there.Fix your thread title.
That's how I read it as well.
 
Where do they say he faked an injury? I'm not seeing it.
"I talk to guys around the league. [benson] took himself out of the Super Bowl. That's letting down your team. I guess that's what kind of guy he is. We knew that, and we played accordingly."
I'm not getting "faking injury" from that. In fact neither "fake" nor "injury" even appear in the quote.Maybe he took himself out of the game because he actually was injured? They may be implying that he should have been tougher and tried to play through it, but I'm not seeing fake injury anywhere in there.

Fix your thread title.
Done. My bad on the original title.
 
Where do they say he faked an injury? I'm not seeing it.
"I talk to guys around the league. [benson] took himself out of the Super Bowl. That's letting down your team. I guess that's what kind of guy he is. We knew that, and we played accordingly."
That doesn't say he faked an injury, it says that he might be soft and doesn't play through pain perhaps. But nowhere does it even imply that he faked an injury.
 
Why in the world would the Bears put the franchise in the hands off a guy who took himself out of the Super Bowl with a fake injury? I'm calling b.s., I don't buy it.
Because they didn't want to pay both Benson and Thomas Jones. Thinking they could get by with Benson the way the got by with Grossman last year.
True. But your coming off a Super Bowl appearance, you know teammates already are a little weary of the guy. If his teammates *internally* thought he could continue in the Bowl and gave up, I think you immediately lose your teams respect in 2007. I just don't think the Bears are THAT clueless. We'll see as the season goes on, but I don't think so.
 
Whether he faked an injury or not...He is a me first guy. In college he told reporters that he would rather win the Heisman than beat Oklahoma (He went to Texas). Last offseason the defense was so sick of the way he carried himself and acted and they roughed him up in training camp to the point where he hurt his shoulder.

 
Whether he faked an injury or not...He is a me first guy. In college he told reporters that he would rather win the Heisman than beat Oklahoma (He went to Texas). Last offseason the defense was so sick of the way he carried himself and acted and they roughed him up in training camp to the point where he hurt his shoulder.
Thanks for the update.
 
Why in the world would the Bears put the franchise in the hands off a guy who took himself out of the Super Bowl with a fake injury? I'm calling b.s., I don't buy it.
First off, don't buy the report on Benson. But the Bears keep going with Grossman so can't say they have the best logic in personnel matters.
 
Nice avatar.Stupid post.
when did Chad get all of that gold in his mouth? I never noticed it before until Monday night...As to Benson - I like the guy for his candor but something just doesn't sit right about him being a professional football player - not that he doesn't have the ability - he just seems to lack the "heart" to be a star in this league. Football takes a special kind of person, much like a soldier, one that buys into the team philosophy and accepts that what may not be best for you personally, may be best for the team and one that will put out 100% effort all the time despite what you think of your superiors. Benson just doesn't seem to have that - not saying he's a bad person - he just seems to lack what it takes to make him successful at the level he is at. Of course there are exceptions to that kind of player - but usually those players possess a competitive drive that Benson also seems to lack...
 
They don't feel like he's a tough runner and they gameplanned around stuffing him early to break his will. Makes perfect sense. It's not any different than the feelings of most Bears fans I know.

 
Charger Fan and Benson owner.

I thought Benson played OK against a historically tough run D. The Chargers were pounding him. But they used the same gameplan as the Bears D which also pounded LT. So judging Benson based on his performance versus the Chargers and extrapolating that seems a little premature....

 
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Hey, I heard from around the league that the Chargers are a bunch of whiny babies who cry to media when they get stomped by a better team in the playoffs and that teams imitates one of their "dances."

Sorry, but if you are going to cry about A) not just getting beat, but getting spanked in the playoffs, and B) do so because it hurt your over-sensitive feelings that they imitated your "dance" then you are the biggest collection of whiny pansies in the NFL. End of discussion.

 
Note to self: Ignore Keith Lewis.
:goodposting: Hopefully I'm not the only one remembers his idiotic post about Vick being absolutely 100% not guilty just because he wasn't included in the original indictment, in huge red type. Not only is he ignorant, he's loudly and obnoxiously ignorant.
 
Cool, another Benson bashing thread. Where do you people come from?

Mods, merge this thread with the Benson Blows thread.

 
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Hey, I heard from around the league that the Chargers are a bunch of whiny babies who cry to media when they get stomped by a better team in the playoffs and that teams imitates one of their "dances."Sorry, but if you are going to cry about A) not just getting beat, but getting spanked in the playoffs, and B) do so because it hurt your over-sensitive feelings that they imitated your "dance" then you are the biggest collection of whiny pansies in the NFL. End of discussion.
What are you talking about?
 
Hey, I heard from around the league that the Chargers are a bunch of whiny babies who cry to media when they get stomped by a better team in the playoffs and that teams imitates one of their "dances."Sorry, but if you are going to cry about A) not just getting beat, but getting spanked in the playoffs, and B) do so because it hurt your over-sensitive feelings that they imitated your "dance" then you are the biggest collection of whiny pansies in the NFL. End of discussion.
What are you talking about?
bad memory? you don't remember LT whining to every sports outlet that would listen how the Pats "disrespected" Shawne Merriman's dance after they whooped the Chargers butts? It was embarrassing, and I'm not even a Chargers fan.
 
Hey, I heard from around the league that the Chargers are a bunch of whiny babies who cry to media when they get stomped by a better team in the playoffs and that teams imitates one of their "dances."Sorry, but if you are going to cry about A) not just getting beat, but getting spanked in the playoffs, and B) do so because it hurt your over-sensitive feelings that they imitated your "dance" then you are the biggest collection of whiny pansies in the NFL. End of discussion.
What are you talking about?
bad memory? you don't remember LT whining to every sports outlet that would listen how the Pats "disrespected" Shawne Merriman's dance after they whooped the Chargers butts? It was embarrassing, and I'm not even a Chargers fan.
When did the Chargers get their butts "whooped?"And what's that got to do with the topic of this thread?In summary: what are you talking about?
 
Hey, I heard from around the league that the Chargers are a bunch of whiny babies who cry to media when they get stomped by a better team in the playoffs and that teams imitates one of their "dances."Sorry, but if you are going to cry about A) not just getting beat, but getting spanked in the playoffs, and B) do so because it hurt your over-sensitive feelings that they imitated your "dance" then you are the biggest collection of whiny pansies in the NFL. End of discussion.
What are you talking about?
bad memory? you don't remember LT whining to every sports outlet that would listen how the Pats "disrespected" Shawne Merriman's dance after they whooped the Chargers butts? It was embarrassing, and I'm not even a Chargers fan.
ahh, the only reason the Chargers are mentioned is becuase they felt if they hit Benson he would quit cuz he is soft. Talking about how LT was upset for the ridiculous moon landing type celebration the Cheatriots performed after their gift win is really not on topic, the topic being Benson is soft and water is wet.
 
Hey, I heard from around the league that the Chargers are a bunch of whiny babies who cry to media when they get stomped by a better team in the playoffs and that teams imitates one of their "dances."Sorry, but if you are going to cry about A) not just getting beat, but getting spanked in the playoffs, and B) do so because it hurt your over-sensitive feelings that they imitated your "dance" then you are the biggest collection of whiny pansies in the NFL. End of discussion.
What are you talking about?
bad memory? you don't remember LT whining to every sports outlet that would listen how the Pats "disrespected" Shawne Merriman's dance after they whooped the Chargers butts? It was embarrassing, and I'm not even a Chargers fan.
When did the Chargers get their butts "whooped?"And what's that got to do with the topic of this thread?In summary: what are you talking about?
If the Chargers are going to rip on our starting running back and accuse him of taking himself out of the superbowl, based on nothing, then I don't see why I can't bring up their well-documented whining. Even the guys on Sportscenter, who would leap at the chance to heap praise on LT, came out and said it was embarrassing.
 
Hey, I heard from around the league that the Chargers are a bunch of whiny babies who cry to media when they get stomped by a better team in the playoffs and that teams imitates one of their "dances."Sorry, but if you are going to cry about A) not just getting beat, but getting spanked in the playoffs, and B) do so because it hurt your over-sensitive feelings that they imitated your "dance" then you are the biggest collection of whiny pansies in the NFL. End of discussion.
What are you talking about?
bad memory? you don't remember LT whining to every sports outlet that would listen how the Pats "disrespected" Shawne Merriman's dance after they whooped the Chargers butts? It was embarrassing, and I'm not even a Chargers fan.
ahh, the only reason the Chargers are mentioned is becuase they felt if they hit Benson he would quit cuz he is soft. Talking about how LT was upset for the ridiculous moon landing type celebration the Cheatriots performed after their gift win is really not on topic, the topic being Benson is soft and water is wet.
Sorry pal, there's nothing "softer" than crying about losing a football game.
 
Hey, I heard from around the league that the Chargers are a bunch of whiny babies who cry to media when they get stomped by a better team in the playoffs and that teams imitates one of their "dances."Sorry, but if you are going to cry about A) not just getting beat, but getting spanked in the playoffs, and B) do so because it hurt your over-sensitive feelings that they imitated your "dance" then you are the biggest collection of whiny pansies in the NFL. End of discussion.
What are you talking about?
bad memory? you don't remember LT whining to every sports outlet that would listen how the Pats "disrespected" Shawne Merriman's dance after they whooped the Chargers butts? It was embarrassing, and I'm not even a Chargers fan.
When did the Chargers get their butts "whooped?"And what's that got to do with the topic of this thread?In summary: what are you talking about?
If the Chargers are going to rip on our starting running back and accuse him of taking himself out of the superbowl, based on nothing, then I don't see why I can't bring up their well-documented whining. Even the guys on Sportscenter, who would leap at the chance to heap praise on LT, came out and said it was embarrassing.
:goodposting: I don't see them as ripping on Benson - they're saying what their game plan was based on things they'd heard from other people. From the results it looks like what they heard was correct and their game plan worked in this regard.As far as getting side tracked about what LaDainian said last year and has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic of this thread - if it makes you feel better about Benson's performance on Sunday, feel free. Understand that it earns you a nice big :lmao: though as the two things aren't even remotely related.
 
I don't know who's more overly sensitive - Bears fans or Pats fans.
Pats fans lately, but it will go back to Bears fans soon enough. Benson is soft. They should have kept Thomas Jones. It's not like this is some kind of new discovery.
 
This post is going to seem like more piling on poor Ced, but that isn't my intention. I liked Ced this preseason and even mentioned that I thought he could be a stud RB1. I saw flashes last year of the tremendous power his best lineman was recently boasting about.

HOWEVER

If you got back to the Super Bowl thread here, I was the lone person who said I thought Ced quit in that game. He just didn't look hurt. He looked like he had emotional problems not physical ones. I got torn into for even suggesting it.

After the Super Bowl there was a Benson thread asking about the injury. I again said I didn't think he was hurt at all. He just quit. Well, proof of a knee injury was given to me because he had an MRI, but that MRI came back negative. No strain, sprain, pull... nothing. If you bail out of the Super Bowl without a limp and seem to be seeking the shelter of the sideline, whatever caused it better be detectable by an MRI, imo.

I believe the Chargers are sharing the truth here. I know that seems outrageous, but that's what I think I saw happen. If true, it is the kind of thing that will forever damn him in the eyes of many. Not me. I think he can overcome this stuff, but the boy is going to have to man up very soon. He has a terrific blend of talent if he can put it together.

 
The Chargers need to quit talking and start doing things on the field to justify their hype. Preferbly in January and February.

 
Well, Ced can either come out and play through it all and this makes him a better player long term or he can take a physical pounding, be soft and out of the league in a few years.

Honestly a reputation as being soft is not good for a RB. It actually gives the defense motivation. Everyone tries to make that knockout blow and that sort of stuff emotionally feeds a defense. Doesn't surprise me that Benson has this reputation. He seemed to be a whiner from day one and has seemed to always be dinged up and not playing. Some players are just that way. But some are that way and grow up. A lot of players have been better later in their careers after all the adjustment to being a pro (emotionally, physically, and mentally) are out of the way.

It's really up to Benson to rid himself of this reputation.

 
Hey, I heard from around the league that the Chargers are a bunch of whiny babies who cry to media when they get stomped by a better team in the playoffs and that teams imitates one of their "dances."

Sorry, but if you are going to cry about A) not just getting beat, but getting spanked in the playoffs, and B) do so because it hurt your over-sensitive feelings that they imitated your "dance" then you are the biggest collection of whiny pansies in the NFL. End of discussion.
What are you talking about?
bad memory? you don't remember LT whining to every sports outlet that would listen how the Pats "disrespected" Shawne Merriman's dance after they whooped the Chargers butts? It was embarrassing, and I'm not even a Chargers fan.
When did the Chargers get their butts "whooped?"And what's that got to do with the topic of this thread?

In summary: what are you talking about?
If the Chargers are going to rip on our starting running back and accuse him of taking himself out of the superbowl, based on nothing, then I don't see why I can't bring up their well-documented whining. Even the guys on Sportscenter, who would leap at the chance to heap praise on LT, came out and said it was embarrassing.
As did LT himself the very next day. He lost it a little after a horrendous let down, admitted it and made his peace with Belichick. It's not like the Bears took money to do a commercial and then used it as an "insult" in the media to build themselves up for the game.

 
Hey, I heard from around the league that the Chargers are a bunch of whiny babies who cry to media when they get stomped by a better team in the playoffs and that teams imitates one of their "dances."Sorry, but if you are going to cry about A) not just getting beat, but getting spanked in the playoffs, and B) do so because it hurt your over-sensitive feelings that they imitated your "dance" then you are the biggest collection of whiny pansies in the NFL. End of discussion.
What are you talking about?
bad memory? you don't remember LT whining to every sports outlet that would listen how the Pats "disrespected" Shawne Merriman's dance after they whooped the Chargers butts? It was embarrassing, and I'm not even a Chargers fan.
When did the Chargers get their butts "whooped?"And what's that got to do with the topic of this thread?In summary: what are you talking about?
I think he is referring to the fact that the Chargers keep bringing up last years playoffs. Your team got outcheated and outcoached by Billichek.
 
The Chargers need to quit talking and start doing things on the field to justify their hype. Preferbly in January and February.
You mean like beating the Bears, adjusting to beat one of the best defenses in the league and SB team? You're right, they should start doing stuff like that.
 

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