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Chargers v Patriots....the rematch (1 Viewer)
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Stillers Jr.
Footballguy
I say the Pats are not focused with all the brou-haha...
SD comes in and gets their revenge in a big way...and LT dances on the pats logo after the game.
SD - 27
NE - 13
SD comes in and gets their revenge in a big way...and LT dances on the pats logo after the game.
SD - 27
NE - 13
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Tau837
Footballguy
Sure, because the Redskins and Raiders teams he coached compared to this San Diego team.bostonfred said:
What the heck are you talking about? Norv was the Miami OC in 2003. Are you referring to 2001, when the Chargers went 5-11? If so, are you aware that he was OC, not HC?bostonfred said:
phthalatemagic
Footballguy
Aren't they in the same one? I must be dense to miss the reference28-10 Chargers
Boston
Footballguy
The combination of two of the three best teams in the NFL meeting, the Pats first game after the cheating scandal and the Chargers attempting to get revenge after a decent amount of pissing and moaning about the Pats behavior makes for a circus atmosphere. How each team responds to this will be interesting and right now is a big time question mark. I can see either team being run right out of the building. There are so many variables here that you just can't look at it as a normal game. One thing is for sure though, this game is about as meaningful a game as you can have in the regular season. There's a very big difference between playing in Foxboro and San Diego in January...as well as having a first round bye and not having to travel cross country. While it's only week two the winner of this game will have a big leg up on the loser.
IMO the key factor for San Diego will be their WRs. Last year they were subpar in the playoff game and it remains to be seen whether they have improved. This unit needs to step up and make plays. If they do that it puts a tremendous amount of pressure on a Pats D that already has it's hands full with LT and Gates. The key factor for the Pats will be their running game. If Maroney/Morris/Faulk can be effective it will allow the Pats to really go after the Charger secondary which will have their hands full with Moss/Welker/Stallworth and company. It will also keep their big time OLBs from being able to tee off.
My hope as a Patriot fan is that after a week of relentless pounding due to the scandal the Pats come out fully focused to a frenzied crowd and assert themselves right off the bat. While I can easily see this I can also see a team that doesn't have it's head on straight for obvious reasons. The funny thing after this week is so much is going to come down to Belichick...but not his x's and o's but rather his ability to keep his team focused. If he can do that (with the help of veterans like Brady and Bruschi) I feel good about the Pats coming away with a W because I just don't think the Chargers have enough firepower on the outside to keep up with Brady, Moss and the other Patriot weapons.
IMO the key factor for San Diego will be their WRs. Last year they were subpar in the playoff game and it remains to be seen whether they have improved. This unit needs to step up and make plays. If they do that it puts a tremendous amount of pressure on a Pats D that already has it's hands full with LT and Gates. The key factor for the Pats will be their running game. If Maroney/Morris/Faulk can be effective it will allow the Pats to really go after the Charger secondary which will have their hands full with Moss/Welker/Stallworth and company. It will also keep their big time OLBs from being able to tee off.
My hope as a Patriot fan is that after a week of relentless pounding due to the scandal the Pats come out fully focused to a frenzied crowd and assert themselves right off the bat. While I can easily see this I can also see a team that doesn't have it's head on straight for obvious reasons. The funny thing after this week is so much is going to come down to Belichick...but not his x's and o's but rather his ability to keep his team focused. If he can do that (with the help of veterans like Brady and Bruschi) I feel good about the Pats coming away with a W because I just don't think the Chargers have enough firepower on the outside to keep up with Brady, Moss and the other Patriot weapons.
1huskerfan
Footballguy
Yeah, especially with LT2 laying low this week.Stillers Jr. said:I say the Pats are not focused with all the brou-haha...
SD comes in and gets their revenge in a big way...and LT dances on the pats logo after the game.
SD - 27
NE - 13
NE 31 SD 17
eom
Footballguy
good thing it was up to the players and not you.
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Insoxicated
I knew the pats would score a lot on the Chargers "Stout D" but I figured they'd be able to move the ball on the Pats a little better. Rivers choked.... praying he gets it together as he's my QB in a big money league.
massraider
Footballguy
Tau837
Footballguy
Yeah, there's really nothing I can say other than I was wrong. I posted this in another thread:
Green and Gold
Footballguy
The grapes, they are sour.
jurb26
Footballguy
How dare I.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
well it sucks knowing that you wont win the superbowl in week2 of the season.
twitch
Footballguy
you know its always one week at a time with these guys, but Im pretty sure this team has a good idea of when the Superbowl is played. But what they did last night was give everyone a clue of who may be there. just a clue. next.
Gold Plated Nails
Footballguy
I'll bump it for you. Totally out coached, out played, out hustled, out everything. Beating all the way around. Tip my hat to Tom Brady, he makes what is difficult for the majority of QBs look almost laughably easy. Chargers have a long long way to go if they want to be competitve with that Pats team.Sorry, can't. I'll be drinking beer, eating red meat in the parking lot in Foxboro.I'll see ya Monday....afternoon.Then bump it on Sunday...Wow, you sound just like Kordell Stewart after the Pats beat them in the playoff to go on to SB36. He swore the better team didn't win, then opening game the following year, the Steelers came to NE and got beat again.You can still beat a team up and down the field and have horrible luck/calls etc and lose. That is why the NBA, Hockey, etc have series play, so the better team advances. In football you can not have series play (injuries/time/etc), that is why the saying any given sunday comes along. The Pats had their any given sunday game last Jan, still doesnt change the fact the Bolts slammed them around most of the game, and pretty much everyone will admit that except for ubber homer Pat fans. Put it this way, if they played that game 10 times, you think the Pats win it more then maybe 3?Same thing happened the time before when the teams played. Yah, scoreboard is all that matters at the end and New England won the last time out, good for them, that's what its all about. But it still doesn't change what happend during the 60 minutes of play, that being the Chargers are a better team top to bottom and it will be reflected AGAIN on Sunday.SD has smacked them around the last 2 times they played. Nothing will be different this time.ESPN NFL Countdown.... All 5 pick Patriots.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/notebook?pag...mp;lid=tab6pos1
Be scared San Diego.
The Patriots are pissed off!
Make sense BSS?
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
I disagree, and think you're being to hard on the Boltz. Imagine if Rivers hadn't thrown those two lame picks. Norv wasted time at the beginning of the game trying to establish the wide receivers. Take a lesson from the Patriots playbook and don't bother trying what doesn't work. Rivers to Gates worked all game long.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Imagine if the Pats decided to actually continue to score on the Chargers instead of running the clock down
Gr00vus
Footballguy
You just identified 2 big reasons as to what BSS said is true - I don't see those things improving.We're toast.
eom
Footballguy
ahahahahahaha......yeah, for like half the game.
they should've outscored cleveland against that sorryass team.
if only rivers hadn't thrown those 2 picks, and big mouth tomlinson had lived up to his mouth, and the chargers had some kind of defense......THEN it would've been close!!
LOOK OUT, NEW ENGLAND!!!
could you guys plz just go back to beating up on oakland and splitting w/kc, and leave the playoffs to the teams that belong there?
they should've outscored cleveland against that sorryass team.
if only rivers hadn't thrown those 2 picks, and big mouth tomlinson had lived up to his mouth, and the chargers had some kind of defense......THEN it would've been close!!
LOOK OUT, NEW ENGLAND!!!
could you guys plz just go back to beating up on oakland and splitting w/kc, and leave the playoffs to the teams that belong there?
BeachBums
Footballguy
Is it possible to ignore someone so you don't see their posts at all?
eom
Footballguy
yeah, because the chargers and their fans really have those kinds of posts coming.
maybe all you guys will learn to accomplish something first before you start running your mouths about how great you are.
the problem is that 'most' of you couldn't acknowledge getting beat by a subpar pats team last year and giving credit where it was due.
I had as much faith in the pats stomping on san diego as I did them beating up the jets.
the inevitable happened, and if they played 10x what do you think the results would be?
I have a ton of respect, and was happy for the steelers when they won --- ditto the colts.
the chargers are one of the most overrated bunch of wannabe punks in recent memory, and their fans aren't much better.
maybe all you guys will learn to accomplish something first before you start running your mouths about how great you are.
the problem is that 'most' of you couldn't acknowledge getting beat by a subpar pats team last year and giving credit where it was due.
I had as much faith in the pats stomping on san diego as I did them beating up the jets.
the inevitable happened, and if they played 10x what do you think the results would be?
I have a ton of respect, and was happy for the steelers when they won --- ditto the colts.
the chargers are one of the most overrated bunch of wannabe punks in recent memory, and their fans aren't much better.
DanFouts
Footballguy
Dude,Been a charger fan for 30 years....most of us have endured pretty horrible seasons. We know we have no Championships, and have a nostalgia for the Fouts/Joiner/Winslow era - we think we should have won one of those years. We have endured BJ Tolliver and Ryan Leaf, but we endure. We were excited about our team last year for the first time in a long while....we'll pull through this.It sounds like you are an enthusaistic Pats fan....great....hope we get back on track and get to meet you back in the playoffs.....
Gr00vus
Footballguy
possibly
Absolutely, 100% out of line, if anything I find the opposite to be true, and it's especially galling from a Pats fan such as yourself, many of which are pretty annoying (not all, not even most, but many).I've never put anybody on ignore in my FBG history because it usually turns out just about everyone has something worth reading to say at some point - you're the first one I've been this close to putting on ignore.
Davej626
5.56 solves all
AngryPatriot
Footballguy
...haven't read all of this, I'm sure, wonderful post but keep fightin the fight EOM. You may have to lower yourself to their level at times, deliver some wicked and incisive blows, and then come back up to Patriot nation: ONE OF HONOR AND INTEGRITY, OF CHAMPIONS. That was a biggie sized BEATDOWN by those evil Patriots, riiiight. LT and co. should now shut up and figure out how to be the great team they and the media think they are. I'll put you on my "favorites" list if there is one becouse atleast you know what you're talking about. Some of those things the Chargers said (not ALL said), are ignorant and seem to stem from the same place that a lot of this Pats hate banter originates from. A lot of people just hate a winner. Many people just hate Brady who is like a human God, I don't get it? I don't HATE Manning, Palmer...it's irrational.
Remember folks: It takes a man to accept responsibility for what he's done and apologize. AND, this is the test, it takes a man to accept that apology and move on. We've moved on (and over- the Chargers). Sorry to the mass media society that Belichick didn't lawyer up and deny everything which seems to be in vogue. No he really ticked people off by stepping up and dealing.
Remember folks: It takes a man to accept responsibility for what he's done and apologize. AND, this is the test, it takes a man to accept that apology and move on. We've moved on (and over- the Chargers). Sorry to the mass media society that Belichick didn't lawyer up and deny everything which seems to be in vogue. No he really ticked people off by stepping up and dealing.
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SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
ditto. Good luck to the Chargers the rest of the way.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
Thanks for the reminder.BTW did you see the post game quotes where Brady was still saying the Chargers have good CBs?I had to 
shakeybarn
Footballguy
Yet another big game that was either a blowout or bad football. Oh well... as a fan of neither team, a blowout isn't as exciting to watch. We were hyped up on Indy/New Orleans, and SD/Chicago (that just wasn't a pure defensive struggle, if you actually watched that game).
I'd say a Charger/Pat rematch in the playoffs would be very motivating for SD, especially if they improve over the year, however, the game would surely be on the road, and I see another smackdown in Foxboro.
Bolts schedule still sees Indy, Jax, Tenn, GB, Bal, Min, Hou, Det etc... doesn't let up much. GB, Det, SF and Hou are 2-0 and Saints are 0-2. Saw that comin'
I'd say a Charger/Pat rematch in the playoffs would be very motivating for SD, especially if they improve over the year, however, the game would surely be on the road, and I see another smackdown in Foxboro.
Bolts schedule still sees Indy, Jax, Tenn, GB, Bal, Min, Hou, Det etc... doesn't let up much. GB, Det, SF and Hou are 2-0 and Saints are 0-2. Saw that comin'
shakeybarn
Footballguy
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I think a lot of people in this thread need to take a deep breath and calm down. It's September. Both of these teams could be playing completely different in January.The LAST thing the Pats fans should be doing this week is mouthing off about honor and integrity and being the model of a winning franchise.
eom
Footballguy
could we put that #### to bed, plz.I've been hearing about the chargers motivation all ####### week.how about this for motivation --- try to win a playoff game?
shakeybarn
Footballguy
Indeed, as we watch Billy Volek lead them to their 7th straight win circa early December, turning SD from a 2-5 team to 9-5 contender... and right there in the hunt.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
IIRC, last year SD started with games against OAK and TEN. This year they started with CHI and NE. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that there is quite a bit of difference defensively there.
shakeybarn
Footballguy
Indeed... my Volek comment was a bit o sarcasm on any defeatism... which I have to say I haven't seen much from the Bolts fans. So that's good to see. I think it's more of a reality check that they (and myself as a non-Bolt fan) thought they were quite replete across the board, but ... looks like they have a ways to go to compete with the elite teams. Interestingly, I did hear from two lifelong hardcore Charger fans last week that their one concern was Rivers, and that he may be a ways off still. They might be right. Maybe thw WR corps need another year/time/work. At Green Bay this week... we'll see just how good the 2-0 Pack really are... (as we will with a 2-0 SF team vs Pit).
I don't think he is really a Pats fan. Just a board troll.He does not speak for me as a Pats fan. Please do not make the mistake of acknowledging him.ps. it did feel good to watch that game Sunday night. Exactly what the Patriots needed.Before the game, as teams were warming up the camera man zoomed on BB and put him on the jumbo-tron and the stadium started cheering and he waved him hand to acknowlwdge us.
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