Cheating Commish (1 Viewer)

[Clifford]

OK, so I play in a money league with a $100 buy in and several weird rules introduced every year. Worth noting this a 2QB flex league.

So this year the commish introduces a new rule that no one can hold more than 2QBs on their roster, and the only exception is that if both your starting QBs have the same bye week, you can pick up a third QB for that week only. This was emailed around before the draft, but not everyone got it, so the commish allowed people to keep three QBs through the first weekend.

So my QBs to start the season are Henne and Stafford since I waited. I also drafted Hasselbeck who I dropped before week 1. I picked up Stafford again after week 2 and have been basically tanked last week and am likely to lose this week waiting for him to come back. Also the team that drafted Roeth is suffering too.

I check rosters this week to start looking for trade partners as I am WR heavy and RB light. I notice that the commish has three QBs on his roster, and only one of them is on a bye. There's another team in the league that has three QBs as well, also not with his starters having the same bye.

I've sent an email and am waiting for a response, but is there any excuse for this at all.

I mentioned him also rescinding trade offers, and here's what I meant.

Monday night I get a text from the commish offering Gore straight up for Moss. I accept. He then says that Gore is worth more than Moss and that I should "throw him a bone." I don't have much but I offer Moss+DHB for Gore. He rejects and then says he wants Vick. Offer rescinded, trade dead.

What is the appropriate response here? The payout for this league is over $600 which is a decent chunk of change. If both teams don't drop their third QB I am considering demanding my entry fees back and quitting this league even though it's my best one. This type of stuff happens every year and I am really sick of not dealing with a level playing field.

ETA Commish has dropped his QB but not yet responded

 

[westbrook36]

the league sounds goofy, the commish is breaking rules, and he is allowing other to break rules.

why don't you pick up a third qb? i'm not sure if anyone is available, but it seems pretty crazy for him to force you to not have a third qb, when he does.

i would play the league out the best you can, even though the commish is definitely wrong here. then at the end of the year, tell him how bad his league sucks, and never join it again(get the money first if you win).

do you know this guy? close friend, or friend of a friend?

 

[The Big Donkey]

OK, so I play in a money league with a $100 buy in and several weird rules introduced every year. Worth noting this a 2QB flex league.

So this year the commish introduces a new rule that no one can hold more than 2QBs on their roster, and the only exception is that if both your starting QBs have the same bye week, you can pick up a third QB for that week only. This was emailed around before the draft, but not everyone got it, so the commish allowed people to keep three QBs through the first weekend.

So my QBs to start the season are Henne and Stafford since I waited. I also drafted Hasselbeck who I dropped before week 1. I picked up Stafford again after week 2 and have been basically tanked last week and am likely to lose this week waiting for him to come back. Also the team that drafted Roeth is suffering too.

I check rosters this week to start looking for trade partners as I am WR heavy and RB light. I notice that the commish has three QBs on his roster, and only one of them is on a bye. There's another team in the league that has three QBs as well, also not with his starters having the same bye.

I've sent an email and am waiting for a response, but is there any excuse for this at all.

I mentioned him also rescinding trade offers, and here's what I meant.

Monday night I get a text from the commish offering Gore straight up for Moss. I accept. He then says that Gore is worth more than Moss and that I should "throw him a bone." I don't have much but I offer Moss+DHB for Gore. He rejects and then says he wants Vick. Offer rescinded, trade dead.

What is the appropriate response here? The payout for this league is over $600 which is a decent chunk of change. If both teams don't drop their third QB I am considering demanding my entry fees back and quitting this league even though it's my best one. This type of stuff happens every year and I am really sick of not dealing with a level playing field.

Did the league vote to approve this change? Does the commish go over all these changes at the draft....or just implementing rules as he sees fit without getting approval and making sure everyone understands? Is one of those three rostered QBs someone that another team would've started in a prior week...how do you undo that? Just seems like a whole lot of wrong with this one, guy isn't even adhering to his own rule.

 

[Man In The Box]

I would wait and see what his response to the QB thing is and go from there. Sounds shady, and he was probably hoping nobody would notice. Although as commish, he should be held to a higher standard.

As far as the trade goes, nothing is official until someone hits the 'Accept Trade' button. This happens in my league all the time. Guys will be sitting around, watching the games, talking trades. Two guys will agree in principle on a deal, and one will back out. It sucks, but what can you do?

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

I would wait and see what his response to the QB thing is and go from there. Sounds shady, and he was probably hoping nobody would notice. Although as commish, he should be held to a higher standard.

As far as the trade goes, nothing is official until someone hits the 'Accept Trade' button. This happens in my league all the time. Guys will be sitting around, watching the games, talking trades. Two guys will agree in principle on a deal, and one will back out. It sucks, but what can you do?

I don't think 11 teams should play by one standard, and one team by another standard. That's not fair. Everyone should play by the same rules. It's the commissioner's job to make sure nobody is rostering three QBs unless they meet the exception. The fact that he doesn't hold his own team to that standard shows he's shady. The OP mentioned that the league has "several weird rules introduced every year." Sounds like he's been in this league for a while. If he already thought things weren't done above-board, he shouldn't have stayed in the league-- unless this is the very first time the commissioner has been caught not following the rules.

 

[Clifford]

His comments were basically don't get your panties in a wad and he dropped the QB. Thing is, the rule was put in place so that there would always be a few viable QBs on the WW, so keeping three QBs even during the week is a violation of that rule, since they'll be on WW til Sunday.

The trade thing didn't bother me as much until I saw this. Looks like QBs are going to be dropped so playing field is level again. Still, I think it's BS to offer a trade, have the other person agree, and then change the deal. Shady.

Oh, rules aren't voted on unless it constitutes changing the structure of the league, like switching to a keeper.

 

[Man In The Box]

I would wait and see what his response to the QB thing is and go from there. Sounds shady, and he was probably hoping nobody would notice. Although as commish, he should be held to a higher standard.

As far as the trade goes, nothing is official until someone hits the 'Accept Trade' button. This happens in my league all the time. Guys will be sitting around, watching the games, talking trades. Two guys will agree in principle on a deal, and one will back out. It sucks, but what can you do?

I don't think 11 teams should play by one standard, and one team by another standard. That's not fair. Everyone should play by the same rules. It's the commissioner's job to make sure nobody is rostering three QBs unless they meet the exception. The fact that he doesn't hold his own team to that standard shows he's shady. The OP mentioned that the league has "several weird rules introduced every year." Sounds like he's been in this league for a while. If he already thought things weren't done above-board, he shouldn't have stayed in the league-- unless this is the very first time the commissioner has been caught not following the rules.

That's not really what I meant. I meant that as commish, he should know the rules inside and out. If this were another owner, you could maybe say that he wasn't aware of this rule (since it seems like it was a late addition to the rulebook). I agree that everyone should play by the same rules, obviously.

 

[Clifford]

I would wait and see what his response to the QB thing is and go from there. Sounds shady, and he was probably hoping nobody would notice. Although as commish, he should be held to a higher standard.

As far as the trade goes, nothing is official until someone hits the 'Accept Trade' button. This happens in my league all the time. Guys will be sitting around, watching the games, talking trades. Two guys will agree in principle on a deal, and one will back out. It sucks, but what can you do?

I don't think 11 teams should play by one standard, and one team by another standard. That's not fair. Everyone should play by the same rules. It's the commissioner's job to make sure nobody is rostering three QBs unless they meet the exception. The fact that he doesn't hold his own team to that standard shows he's shady. The OP mentioned that the league has "several weird rules introduced every year." Sounds like he's been in this league for a while. If he already thought things weren't done above-board, he shouldn't have stayed in the league-- unless this is the very first time the commissioner has been caught not following the rules.

Despite occasional shadiness by the commish it's the best league I'm in: agressive scoring, big payout, very active. We held our draft in Vegas this past year. That's why I've stayed in despite the occasional contre-temps.

 

[Jewell]

I've sent an email and am waiting for a response, but is there any excuse for this at all.

No, there is no excuse for that. There's also no excuse for this...

So my QBs to start the season are Henne and Stafford

 

[Clifford]

Dude, I was SUPER high on Stafford coming in. I honestly beleived he had a shot at top five. After grabbing Vick before week two, if Stafford can come back and play at a decent level, my QB situation will be looking pretty good.

 

[footballnerd]

If some shady action is going on in the background, don't be afraid to call out the commish on the message boards so all the members know whats going on. He'll stop unless he wants to lose the league the next year.

Trade back outs happen all the time, many times its one owner playing your trade vs another. Nature of the business. Lot of times if you see a juicy offer via discussion, instead of saying yes, play it cool, tell them to put it through and you'll take a look at it. That way the accept button is there for the taking

 

[Clifford]

I knew I should have done that but instead let down my guard. What can I say, my Bears were beating the Pack and I was in a great mood.

 

[solorca]

The commish in my league is similar to this, although in the end he usually is fair about things.

I recently had some RB depth, so I made a deal to trade Marion Barber for Johnny Knox. All things considered, it was a pretty fair deal and it shouldn't even be a question. The commish had been trying to work out a trade to get Knox, so he tried desperately to get the rest of the league to vote against the deal, saying that it was unfair. Fortunately, my league was smart enough to see what he was doing.

The bad part is that there are about 3-4 people in the league who think that he apparently knows everything about fantasy football...so they run just about everything through him. Meaning, if you try to make a trade with any of them, they go to him and he convinces them it's a bad trade if he doesn't like it. Then, inevitably, he will end up making a lopsided deal with them at some point. It's ridiculous. It's a league with a bunch of my good friends though, so I stay in it...but it's really frustrating. He lost in the playoffs last year, but is currently 3-0 this season (even though his draft looked horrible, he got lucky with some of his picks).

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

I would wait and see what his response to the QB thing is and go from there. Sounds shady, and he was probably hoping nobody would notice. Although as commish, he should be held to a higher standard.

As far as the trade goes, nothing is official until someone hits the 'Accept Trade' button. This happens in my league all the time. Guys will be sitting around, watching the games, talking trades. Two guys will agree in principle on a deal, and one will back out. It sucks, but what can you do?

I don't think 11 teams should play by one standard, and one team by another standard. That's not fair. Everyone should play by the same rules. It's the commissioner's job to make sure nobody is rostering three QBs unless they meet the exception. The fact that he doesn't hold his own team to that standard shows he's shady. The OP mentioned that the league has "several weird rules introduced every year." Sounds like he's been in this league for a while. If he already thought things weren't done above-board, he shouldn't have stayed in the league-- unless this is the very first time the commissioner has been caught not following the rules.

That's not really what I meant. I meant that as commish, he should know the rules inside and out. If this were another owner, you could maybe say that he wasn't aware of this rule (since it seems like it was a late addition to the rulebook). I agree that everyone should play by the same rules, obviously.

I agree, then. Thanks. I just see a lot of people who think the commish needs to go out of his way to prove he's "fair" or else he's a cheater. So the commish has to act in ways that other woner's don't have to act. No question if the commish can't keep his own rule straight, something is wrong.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

His comments were basically don't get your panties in a wad and he dropped the QB. Thing is, the rule was put in place so that there would always be a few viable QBs on the WW, so keeping three QBs even during the week is a violation of that rule, since they'll be on WW til Sunday.

The trade thing didn't bother me as much until I saw this. Looks like QBs are going to be dropped so playing field is level again. Still, I think it's BS to offer a trade, have the other person agree, and then change the deal. Shady.

Oh, rules aren't voted on unless it constitutes changing the structure of the league, like switching to a keeper.

To me, that's even worse. You're a jerk for making him enforce his own rule? I guess the rules are really suggestions...and no big deal if they're followed or not?If you like the league, cool. But it seems pretty casual with its rules. In a start-two QB league, how many you can roster sounds like a big deal.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I would wait and see what his response to the QB thing is and go from there. Sounds shady, and he was probably hoping nobody would notice. Although as commish, he should be held to a higher standard.

As far as the trade goes, nothing is official until someone hits the 'Accept Trade' button. This happens in my league all the time. Guys will be sitting around, watching the games, talking trades. Two guys will agree in principle on a deal, and one will back out. It sucks, but what can you do?

I don't think 11 teams should play by one standard, and one team by another standard. That's not fair. Everyone should play by the same rules. It's the commissioner's job to make sure nobody is rostering three QBs unless they meet the exception. The fact that he doesn't hold his own team to that standard shows he's shady. The OP mentioned that the league has "several weird rules introduced every year." Sounds like he's been in this league for a while. If he already thought things weren't done above-board, he shouldn't have stayed in the league-- unless this is the very first time the commissioner has been caught not following the rules.

Despite occasional shadiness by the commish it's the best league I'm in: agressive scoring, big payout, very active. We held our draft in Vegas this past year. That's why I've stayed in despite the occasional contre-temps.

You guys have the money to meet in Vegas for the draft but you call a $100 league, $600 max take a "big payout"?The trade isn't an issue to me. Although I hate when that happens, so I never verbally accept a trade, I always wait for the site software offer... After someone sees you were so easy to accept an offer, they're going to think they could have asked for more. So sending an offer through the site software is the way to go.

No good excuse for the commish not following the rules but if you have gotten him back on track with no incident and you enjoy the league then just move on...

 

[Clifford]

His comments were basically don't get your panties in a wad and he dropped the QB. Thing is, the rule was put in place so that there would always be a few viable QBs on the WW, so keeping three QBs even during the week is a violation of that rule, since they'll be on WW til Sunday.

The trade thing didn't bother me as much until I saw this. Looks like QBs are going to be dropped so playing field is level again. Still, I think it's BS to offer a trade, have the other person agree, and then change the deal. Shady.

Oh, rules aren't voted on unless it constitutes changing the structure of the league, like switching to a keeper.

To me, that's even worse. You're a jerk for making him enforce his own rule? I guess the rules are really suggestions...and no big deal if they're followed or not?If you like the league, cool. But it seems pretty casual with its rules. In a start-two QB league, how many you can roster sounds like a big deal.

That's just the parlance of the league. Profanity density in league emails is something 1 in every four words. Thus the paraphrasing.He's getting it from the rest of the league right now and the other team just didn't understand the rule which is kinda screwey anyway.

I think we just need to make him do something humiliating in public as retribution.

 

[theplayer11]

I disagree with people who are saying the rescinding trade was OK. Don't know what site you use, but with CBS with commish having to OK all trades, what you stated that happened is wrong. If the commish accepted the offer, he would then have to approve or reject it like every other trade. Once he accepted, the trade was a done deal. He can't reject trade at that point unless collusion..IMO

 

[Man In The Box]

I disagree with people who are saying the rescinding trade was OK. Don't know what site you use, but with CBS with commish having to OK all trades, what you stated that happened is wrong. If the commish accepted the offer, he would then have to approve or reject it like every other trade. Once he accepted, the trade was a done deal. He can't reject trade at that point unless collusion..IMO

Technically, he never accepted.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

I disagree with people who are saying the rescinding trade was OK. Don't know what site you use, but with CBS with commish having to OK all trades, what you stated that happened is wrong. If the commish accepted the offer, he would then have to approve or reject it like every other trade. Once he accepted, the trade was a done deal. He can't reject trade at that point unless collusion..IMO

Changing your mind before the site software recognizes the transaction is ok.. Once someone pushes the accept button it should be a done deal...