chester taylor ? (1 Viewer)

[bumpman]

You know what's really funny.... I was just looking at ADPs....I think I actually like every starting RB in the league over Chester Taylor this year.NE - Corey DillonBUF - Willis McGaheeNYJ - Curtis MartinMIA - Ronnie BrownCIN - Rudi JohnsonPIT - Willie ParkerBAL - Jamal LewisCLE - Reuben DroughnsIND - Dominic RhodesJAX - Maurice DrewTEN - LenDale WhiteHOU - Domanick DavisDEN - Ron DayneKC - Larry JohnsonSD - LaDainian TomlinsonOAK - LaMont JordanNYG - Tiki BarberWAS - Clinton PortisDAL - Julius JonesPHI - Brian WestbrookCHI - Cedric BensonMIN - Mewelde MooreDET - Kevin JonesGB - Ahman GreenTB - Cadillac WilliamsCAR - DeAngelo WilliamsATL - Warrick DunnNO - Deuce McAllisterSEA - Shaun AlexanderSTL - Steven JacksonARI - Edgerrin JamesSF - Frank Gore

My favorite post of this long and winding thread . . .

 

[David Yudkin]

At least HK is man enough to admit that he was wrong (so far)Since we were so quick to judge CT after 2 preseason games... after two reg season games averaging 100 yards, 3 catches, and 25-30 receiving yards, and 0.5 TDs a game ain't bad... On pace for: 1608 yards, 48 catches, 464 receiving yards, 8 TDsIf that ain't top 20 (hell, top 10!) then I don't know what is...

I haven't given up yet, although he has definitely started off better than I expected. Part of the rationale of betting against Taylor was the possibility that he either wouldn't receive a heavy workload due to concerns about his ability to handle it, or that he would and wouldn't be able to handle it over the full season. There is now no doubt he's getting the workload, but we're a long way from proving he can keep it up over the long haul.

I think the other factor is that the Vikes are winning (which I wasn't really anticipating). And if they keep winning, they have no reason to change what they are doing. I'm not expecting a great week against CHI, but he gets BUF and DET after that.

 

[Lemmiwinks]

You know what's really funny.... I was just looking at ADPs....I think I actually like every starting RB in the league over Chester Taylor this year.NE - Corey DillonBUF - Willis McGaheeNYJ - Curtis MartinMIA - Ronnie BrownCIN - Rudi JohnsonPIT - Willie ParkerBAL - Jamal LewisCLE - Reuben DroughnsIND - Dominic RhodesJAX - Maurice DrewTEN - LenDale WhiteHOU - Domanick DavisDEN - Ron DayneKC - Larry JohnsonSD - LaDainian TomlinsonOAK - LaMont JordanNYG - Tiki BarberWAS - Clinton PortisDAL - Julius JonesPHI - Brian WestbrookCHI - Cedric BensonMIN - Mewelde MooreDET - Kevin JonesGB - Ahman GreenTB - Cadillac WilliamsCAR - DeAngelo WilliamsATL - Warrick DunnNO - Deuce McAllisterSEA - Shaun AlexanderSTL - Steven JacksonARI - Edgerrin JamesSF - Frank Gore

My favorite post of this long and winding thread . . .

Looking at that list I can't find 10 RB's I prefer to Chester Taylor. R. BrownSA LTLJTikiWestbrookRudiThen I think Taylor is equal with guys like Parker, Gore, S Jax and Dunn.

 

[Banger]

You know what's really funny.... I was just looking at ADPs....I think I actually like every starting RB in the league over Chester Taylor this year.NE - Corey DillonBUF - Willis McGaheeNYJ - Curtis MartinMIA - Ronnie BrownCIN - Rudi JohnsonPIT - Willie ParkerBAL - Jamal LewisCLE - Reuben DroughnsIND - Dominic RhodesJAX - Maurice DrewTEN - LenDale WhiteHOU - Domanick DavisDEN - Ron DayneKC - Larry JohnsonSD - LaDainian TomlinsonOAK - LaMont JordanNYG - Tiki BarberWAS - Clinton PortisDAL - Julius JonesPHI - Brian WestbrookCHI - Cedric BensonMIN - Mewelde MooreDET - Kevin JonesGB - Ahman GreenTB - Cadillac WilliamsCAR - DeAngelo WilliamsATL - Warrick DunnNO - Deuce McAllisterSEA - Shaun AlexanderSTL - Steven JacksonARI - Edgerrin JamesSF - Frank Gore

My favorite post of this long and winding thread . . .

Looking at that list I can't find 10 RB's I prefer to Chester Taylor. R. BrownSA LTLJTikiWestbrookRudiThen I think Taylor is equal with guys like Parker, Gore, S Jax and Dunn.

I'd take Rudi, the big 3, Tiki and that might be it. He will rival LT, LJ for most touches. Don't forget that this was supposed to be hard part of their schedule. Their defense is solid, their line will get better and their schedule gets easier.

 

[H.K.]

Does anyone else see Taylor making a statement this weekend? I think he goes over 200 total yards and 3 scores....just a hunch...

 

[Sabertooth]

I think Taylor has already made a statement. That said I expect about 120 total yards and .75 touchdowns.

 

[Super King]

Does anyone else see Taylor making a statement this weekend? I think he goes over 200 total yards and 3 scores....just a hunch...

he's gonna run wild against the bills soft run D. Why'd they ever get rid of Pat Williams?

 

[MLBrandow]

Does anyone else see Taylor making a statement this weekend? I think he goes over 200 total yards and 3 scores....just a hunch...

he's gonna run wild against the bills soft run D. Why'd they ever get rid of Pat Williams?

This just in, Chester Taylor has 10 yards at the half.

 

[redman]

How soon 'til Childress takes a serious look at MeMo as the primary ball carrier in this offense?

 

[GoBills02]

Does anyone else see Taylor making a statement this weekend? I think he goes over 200 total yards and 3 scores....just a hunch...

he's gonna run wild against the bills soft run D. Why'd they ever get rid of Pat Williams?

 

[H.K.]

Bet updates:

Sig: Chester at RB 12 after four weeks

Yudkin vs. H.K.:

Foster/Heap 99.6 FF points

Taylor/Gates* 84.7 FF Points

*Gates bye in week 3

 

[TeamDingo]

CTAYLOR @ 1/4 POLE UPDATE BUMP

29.8 + 6 + 12 + 8.7 = 56.5

56.5 = #12 PPR RB =

No doubt the BUF game was a disappointment all around, but MIN has played 4 good Defenses so far. @SEA & @CHI look tough but other than that I would say the difficult part of the schedule is behind him. If he remains healthy, :IBTL: CTAYLOR>RB21. Still hoping for Top 10.

Thoughts?

Edit per scoring in post #154

 

[H.K.]

CTAYLOR @ 1/4 POLE UPDATE BUMP

29.8 + 6 + 12 + 8.7 = 56.5

56.5 = #14 PPR RB =

No doubt the BUF game was a disappointment all around, but MIN has played 4 good Defenses so far. @SEA & @CHI look tough but other than that I would say the difficult part of the schedule is behind him. If he remains healthy, :IBTL: CTAYLOR>RB21. Still hoping for Top 10.

Thoughts?

I have him at 56.5 points but he is RB12, what am I missing?

 

[TeamDingo]

CTAYLOR @ 1/4 POLE UPDATE BUMP

29.8 + 6 + 12 + 8.7 = 56.5

56.5 = #14 PPR RB =

No doubt the BUF game was a disappointment all around, but MIN has played 4 good Defenses so far. @SEA & @CHI look tough but other than that I would say the difficult part of the schedule is behind him. If he remains healthy, :IBTL: CTAYLOR>RB21. Still hoping for Top 10.

Thoughts?

I have him at 56.5 points but he is RB12, what am I missing?

I get AGreen @ 58.3 and RBush @ 57.4. You have those 2 ahead of him?

 

[Tau837]

CTAYLOR @ 1/4 POLE UPDATE BUMP

29.8 + 6 + 12 + 8.7 = 56.5

56.5 = #14 PPR RB =

No doubt the BUF game was a disappointment all around, but MIN has played 4 good Defenses so far. @SEA & @CHI look tough but other than that I would say the difficult part of the schedule is behind him. If he remains healthy, :IBTL: CTAYLOR>RB21. Still hoping for Top 10.

Thoughts?

I have him at 56.5 points but he is RB12, what am I missing?

Both of you appear to be using total points, but some RBs have had a bye already (e.g., Willie Parker), and are ahead of him in ppg. Where does he rank in ppg in this scoring system?

 

[Two Deep]

How soon 'til Childress takes a serious look at MeMo as the primary ball carrier in this offense?

Unfortunately not soon enough, classic case of money plays before talent.

 

[TeamDingo]

CTAYLOR @ 1/4 POLE UPDATE BUMP

29.8 + 6 + 12 + 8.7 = 56.5

56.5 = #14 PPR RB =

No doubt the BUF game was a disappointment all around, but MIN has played 4 good Defenses so far. @SEA & @CHI look tough but other than that I would say the difficult part of the schedule is behind him. If he remains healthy, :IBTL: CTAYLOR>RB21. Still hoping for Top 10.

Thoughts?

I have him at 56.5 points but he is RB12, what am I missing?

Both of you appear to be using total points, but some RBs have had a bye already (e.g., Willie Parker), and are ahead of him in ppg. Where does he rank in ppg in this scoring system?

I have not run the numbers but my guess is the only one that would move a head of CTaylor ( other than WParker) would be TBarber.edit-

TBarber

WParker

JJones

i think... #17 PPG PPR RB under this, correct me if I am wrong please

 

[H.K.]

CTAYLOR @ 1/4 POLE UPDATE BUMP

29.8 + 6 + 12 + 8.7 = 56.5

56.5 = #14 PPR RB =

No doubt the BUF game was a disappointment all around, but MIN has played 4 good Defenses so far. @SEA & @CHI look tough but other than that I would say the difficult part of the schedule is behind him. If he remains healthy, :IBTL: CTAYLOR>RB21. Still hoping for Top 10.

Thoughts?

I have him at 56.5 points but he is RB12, what am I missing?

I get AGreen @ 58.3 and RBush @ 57.4. You have those 2 ahead of him?

Nope. I've got:Taylor 56.5

Bush 56.4

Green 56.3

My scoring system is subtracting -1 for FL, though....not sure if that was part of the bet.

For others mentioning PPG, we aren't going by that. We are using total points.

 

[TeamDingo]

CTAYLOR @ 1/4 POLE UPDATE BUMP

29.8 + 6 + 12 + 8.7 = 56.5

56.5 = #14 PPR RB =

No doubt the BUF game was a disappointment all around, but MIN has played 4 good Defenses so far. @SEA & @CHI look tough but other than that I would say the difficult part of the schedule is behind him. If he remains healthy, :IBTL: CTAYLOR>RB21. Still hoping for Top 10.

Thoughts?

I have him at 56.5 points but he is RB12, what am I missing?

I get AGreen @ 58.3 and RBush @ 57.4. You have those 2 ahead of him?

Nope. I've got:Taylor 56.5

Bush 56.4

Green 56.3

My scoring system is subtracting -1 for FL, though....not sure if that was part of the bet.

For others mentioning PPG, we aren't going by that. We are using total points.

No mention of fumbles in bet. Pretty sure we let you set all the stipulations.

 

[H.K.]

CTAYLOR @ 1/4 POLE UPDATE BUMP

29.8 + 6 + 12 + 8.7 = 56.5

56.5 = #14 PPR RB =

No doubt the BUF game was a disappointment all around, but MIN has played 4 good Defenses so far. @SEA & @CHI look tough but other than that I would say the difficult part of the schedule is behind him. If he remains healthy, :IBTL: CTAYLOR>RB21. Still hoping for Top 10.

Thoughts?

I have him at 56.5 points but he is RB12, what am I missing?

I get AGreen @ 58.3 and RBush @ 57.4. You have those 2 ahead of him?

Nope. I've got:Taylor 56.5

Bush 56.4

Green 56.3

My scoring system is subtracting -1 for FL, though....not sure if that was part of the bet.

For others mentioning PPG, we aren't going by that. We are using total points.

No mention of fumbles in bet. Pretty sure we let you set all the stipulations.

From post #154 of this thread:

OK, FBG has CT as RB20 in PPR formats (.1 x rush/rec yards, 6 points TD, -1 fum & 1 PPR), and I say he does worse than that projection. PPR should play to his strength as a former 3DRB and Childress as HC, so it gives him every benefit of the doubt.

Injuries are tough noogies tho, as many detractors question his durability.

Sigs can be determined later....

I use this scoring system for one of my leagues and he is RB12. One thing we did not address is passing stats and 2 point conversions, though.....oops. Personally I think he should get credit for them, 1 point for every 25 yards passing 4 points TD pass, -1 INT and 2 points for 2 point conversions seem fair?

 

[TeamDingo]

CTAYLOR @ 1/4 POLE UPDATE BUMP

29.8 + 6 + 12 + 8.7 = 56.5

56.5 = #14 PPR RB =

No doubt the BUF game was a disappointment all around, but MIN has played 4 good Defenses so far. @SEA & @CHI look tough but other than that I would say the difficult part of the schedule is behind him. If he remains healthy, :IBTL: CTAYLOR>RB21. Still hoping for Top 10.

Thoughts?

I have him at 56.5 points but he is RB12, what am I missing?

I get AGreen @ 58.3 and RBush @ 57.4. You have those 2 ahead of him?

Nope. I've got:Taylor 56.5

Bush 56.4

Green 56.3

My scoring system is subtracting -1 for FL, though....not sure if that was part of the bet.

For others mentioning PPG, we aren't going by that. We are using total points.

No mention of fumbles in bet. Pretty sure we let you set all the stipulations.

From post #154 of this thread:

OK, FBG has CT as RB20 in PPR formats (.1 x rush/rec yards, 6 points TD, -1 fum & 1 PPR), and I say he does worse than that projection. PPR should play to his strength as a former 3DRB and Childress as HC, so it gives him every benefit of the doubt.

Injuries are tough noogies tho, as many detractors question his durability.

Sigs can be determined later....

I use this scoring system for one of my leagues and he is RB12. One thing we did not address is passing stats and 2 point conversions, though.....oops. Personally I think he should get credit for them, 1 point for every 25 yards passing 4 points TD pass, -1 INT and 2 points for 2 point conversions seem fair?

Ok, you are right. They did not charge him with a fumble in the CHI game? ( nope was BJohnson on the exchange) Gonna edit my post appropriately. My bad.

 

[Tau837]

For others mentioning PPG, we aren't going by that. We are using total points.

Of course. The point is, his rank is artificially inflated using total points because a few others had a bye already and he hasn't.

 

[MLBrandow]

For others mentioning PPG, we aren't going by that. We are using total points.

Of course. The point is, his rank is artificially inflated using total points because a few others had a bye already and he hasn't.

I'm not sure that's relevant, since last I checked, every team plays 16 games in a season.

 

[TeamDingo]

Week 5

Back on track, still need the pay dirt though....

12.3 + 5 + 3.1 =

on the year

76.9 fps

15.38 fppg

 

[Biabreakable]

Championship.

 

[H.K.]

CT is RB15 through Six Weeks afetr his bye. There are six RB ahead of him who have not had their bye yet.

Gates/CT = 138.4 points but both have had byes

Foster/Heap = 144 points both have yet to have byes (Foster Wk 9 & Heap Wk 7)

 

[Wheelhouse]

Chester Taylor this week at Seattle. Seattle is one of the best, if not the best home team in the NFL. Seattle is a MUCH different team at home than on the road.

Allowed 64 yards rushing each to Edge and Tiki this year in their two home games. Edge at 64 yards is understandable, but TIKI??

Thoughts on how Chester will do?

 

[Tat]

Chester Taylor this week at Seattle. Seattle is one of the best, if not the best home team in the NFL. Seattle is a MUCH different team at home than on the road.Allowed 64 yards rushing each to Edge and Tiki this year in their two home games. Edge at 64 yards is understandable, but TIKI?? Thoughts on how Chester will do?

I am sure that coming off a BYE week, the Vikings as a whole will be ready for Seattle, especially since Seattle will be paying closer attention to the pass considering Bulger hung 360 yards on them.....I like Chester this week and hope he reaches paydirt a time or two.

 

[BigTex]

Anyone know if he has recovered from his ankle injury?

 

[sdsjr3]

Chester Taylor this week at Seattle. Seattle is one of the best, if not the best home team in the NFL. Seattle is a MUCH different team at home than on the road.Allowed 64 yards rushing each to Edge and Tiki this year in their two home games. Edge at 64 yards is understandable, but TIKI?? Thoughts on how Chester will do?

Keeping in mind of course that the Giants were up, what...like 100-0 after the first quarter? Throw the Tiki game out IMHO...it skews the averages. Had the game been closer, you'd have seen a much different statline for him.

 

[TeamDingo]

Chester Taylor this week at Seattle. Seattle is one of the best, if not the best home team in the NFL. Seattle is a MUCH different team at home than on the road.Allowed 64 yards rushing each to Edge and Tiki this year in their two home games. Edge at 64 yards is understandable, but TIKI?? Thoughts on how Chester will do?

18/76/1 3/32/0

 

[H.K.]

18/76/1 3/32/0

That's it? I've got him for 26 carries 138 yards 2 TD & 6 recepts 74 yardsHe'll be a one man wrecking crew this week, he's had a week to rest and SEA is emotionally spent from the Rams game. He's the #1 FF RB this week, guaranteed.

 

[BlueOnion]

18/76/1 3/32/0

That's it? I've got him for 26 carries 138 yards 2 TD & 6 recepts 74 yardsHe'll be a one man wrecking crew this week, he's had a week to rest and SEA is emotionally spent from the Rams game. He's the #1 FF RB this week, guaranteed.

That might be a lot considering the ineptitude of one Brad Johnson; possibly the most limited quarterback in the NFL. I suspect the Seahawks stack the line of scrimmage with 8 man fronts.

 

[tribecalledjeff]

CT is RB15 through Six Weeks afetr his bye. There are six RB ahead of him who have not had their bye yet.Gates/CT = 138.4 points but both have had byesFoster/Heap = 144 points both have yet to have byes (Foster Wk 9 & Heap Wk 7)

You tried to state in the Gates thread that total points is the way to measure players. Bye weeks and points per game don't matter. So why do they here?

 

[H.K.]

CT is RB15 through Six Weeks afetr his bye. There are six RB ahead of him who have not had their bye yet.Gates/CT = 138.4 points but both have had byesFoster/Heap = 144 points both have yet to have byes (Foster Wk 9 & Heap Wk 7)

You tried to state in the Gates thread that total points is the way to measure players. Bye weeks and points per game don't matter. So why do they here?

1) I ranked these players based on total points2) Bye weeks are guaranteed zeros for total points

 

[TeamDingo]

18/76/1 3/32/0

That's it? I've got him for 26 carries 138 yards 2 TD & 6 recepts 74 yardsHe'll be a one man wrecking crew this week, he's had a week to rest and SEA is emotionally spent from the Rams game. He's the #1 FF RB this week, guaranteed.

I would be much pleased by this... I think we are going to be seeing much AirJohnson on Sunday ( and for the rest of the year). Chester will get his but this week, win or lose, Vikes will throw.

 

[mad sweeney]

18/76/1 3/32/0

That's it? I've got him for 26 carries 138 yards 2 TD & 6 recepts 74 yardsHe'll be a one man wrecking crew this week, he's had a week to rest and SEA is emotionally spent from the Rams game. He's the #1 FF RB this week, guaranteed.

At home after a huge win vs a team who the front office down to the players dislike rom off season shenanigans. Great run D, massive fan support vs a qb who's as bad as Bulger is good.Yeah, no way they're up for the game

 

[TeamDingo]

16.9 + 6 + 4 + 1.9 =

and he won me this huge bye week game 90-88

CTAYLOR

For the year -

105.7 fps

17.62 fppg

update his Top21 RB status on Tuesday 10/24/06 EDIT TO ADD CTaylor = RB10

 

[trogg78]

18/76/1 3/32/0

That's it? I've got him for 26 carries 138 yards 2 TD & 6 recepts 74 yardsHe'll be a one man wrecking crew this week, he's had a week to rest and SEA is emotionally spent from the Rams game. He's the #1 FF RB this week, guaranteed.

At home after a huge win vs a team who the front office down to the players dislike rom off season shenanigans. Great run D, massive fan support vs a qb who's as bad as Bulger is good.Yeah, no way they're up for the game

this is probably my most hated smilie....its nice to see its use d by someone that was just totally OVVNED!

 

[H.K.]

Bet 1) CT is now RB9 in PPR

Bet 2)

CT & Gates = 188.5

Foster & Heap = 153.9

 

[shims3]

Do you like KJ going forward more than Chester Taylor? I like them both and are both similar type of backs, but who has more value going forward?

 

[rockbottom895]

Do you like KJ going forward more than Chester Taylor? I like them both and are both similar type of backs, but who has more value going forward?

KJ in my opinion will have a much better season than Chestor. Look at upcoming matchups.

 

[Lemmiwinks]

Do you like KJ going forward more than Chester Taylor? I like them both and are both similar type of backs, but who has more value going forward?

KJ in my opinion will have a much better season than Chestor. Look at upcoming matchups.

Look at the upcoming matchups? Did you even bother to look yourself? Chester has the better upcoming schedule, especially in the FF playoffs when it counts. Playoffs (Weeks 14-16)KJ:MIN GB CHI CTET NYJ GB Also, Chester is on a team that acutally runs the ball 20+ times per game regularly. CT in a walk, IMO

 

[Ironman]

I have both Kevin Jones and Chester Taylor on one of my teams (plus Stephen Jackson, as I went RB-WR-RB-RB in the first four rounds). I'm with the guy right above me, since I'll be looking to deal Jones soon for a top WR and solid #3 RB (at least that's what I'm hoping for) and ride Taylor through the playoffs. Both have been great, and Jones ranks as one of the top RBs in the league so far, but I definitely don't like that week 16 matchup, and isn't the goal to win the title?

 

[Wheelhouse]

FYI - If Taylor gets 67 yards rushing tonight, he will be the #2 rusher behind Tiki Barber and ahead of LaDainian Tomlinson.

 

[GECKO]

FYI - If Taylor gets 67 yards rushing tonight, he will be the #2 rusher behind Tiki Barber and ahead of LaDainian Tomlinson.

Very nice

 

[H.K.]

Sig Bet: CT = RB9

Yudkin bet:

CT/Gates = 208

DF/Heap = 185.7 with Foster on a bye this week

 

[TeamDingo]

Sig Bet: CT = RB9Yudkin bet:CT/Gates = 208DF/Heap = 185.7 with Foster on a bye this week

Beat me to it. Next week is the half way point.

 

[H.K.]

Halfway point:

Sig Bet: CT = RB10

Yudkin:

CT/Gates: 135.7 + 98.6 = 234.3

Foster/Heap: 97.5 + 100.6 = 198.1

Taylor's health is the only thing between him and winning both bets, however, he's built up a cushion, so he can afford to miss a few weeks and still be fine.

 

[Tau837]

Halfway point:Sig Bet: CT = RB10Yudkin:CT/Gates: 135.7 + 98.6 = 234.3Foster/Heap: 97.5 + 100.6 = 198.1Taylor's health is the only thing between him and winning both bets, however, he's built up a cushion, so he can afford to miss a few weeks and still be fine.

How many points is Chester ahead of RB20? I'm curious how much of a cushion he has. Using your 135.7 figure above, he's averaging 17 ppg, so to say that he can miss a few weeks implies he is 50 points ahead of RB20, which I find hard to believe.