that actually that is a very good take home for a qsr - only being able to own one is stupid, that would be a deal killer. Last, burger king killed their franchisee's with royalty payments and mandatory marketing payments. Sounds like this is similar. Only being able to own one would be the deal killer for me.So really you don't OWN it if you don't build any equity or build the business. You can't decide to sell it to whomever you'd like; when you're done, you've made your salary, and you're done?Sounds like you pay the franchise fee and you just become an employee of CFA?So here's a few of the details:You were approved?Fat Nick said:Just approved by zoning to open one in Flemington NJ.
The wife and I went to a prospective franchisee meeting one time a few years ago. Interesting franchise model they have...
-They want approved franchisees to share their religious beliefs. Not necessarily as fanatical, but if you told them you were agnostic or Muslim, I doubt you'd be getting a franchise
-The part I found interesting is that they do all the location and build-out. You basically "run" the franchise within their parameters and give them a % of the revenues. I forget the % exactly. So basically, they get paid if you sell something, even if you're operating at a loss.
We didn't pursue the path any further because of these two major caveats:
-With very few exceptions, you can own a maximum of 1 franchise location.
-When you die, or decide to retire, THEY decide who the franchise transfers to. If I retired, and wanted to give it to my kids, I'd need Chick-fil-a approval. Likewise, I can't sell my franchise rights to someone else.
These two things greatly cap the earnings potential. They said that a good owner operator could take home $200-$300K...My wife and I felt we could do better elsewhere.
HOW DARE THEY!!!i love the chicken strips.
What irks me is when you get your food and pay its always "have a blessed day".
Is this schtick?What irks me is when you get your food and pay its always "have a blessed day".
For one person? What do you get that costs as much as $10? In my experience, it's much less, around $6.I use to like this place until it started costing 8-10 to eat there. Honestly, I can get a good lunch or dinner for that price, granted I live in a city with a million choices.
It's the only thing that keeps my insane jealousy of your Disney trips in check. I sit at the buffet stuffing my face and tell myself "Bruce may make gold records and visit Disney all the time but he doesn't have glorious all-you-can-eat chicken". If you take this from me I'll have to consider murdering you.Bruce Dickinson said:I might switch my next Orlando trip from a flight to a drive so I can hit up one of these CFA breakfast buffets along the way.Somebody call the police because I just murdered the Chick-fil-a breakfast buffet.
I think I can hear the sound of your heart grinding to a stop.It's the only thing that keeps my insane jealousy of your Disney trips in check. I sit at the buffet stuffing my face and tell myself "Bruce may make gold records and visit Disney all the time but he doesn't have glorious all-you-can-eat chicken". If you take this from me I'll have to consider murdering you.Bruce Dickinson said:I might switch my next Orlando trip from a flight to a drive so I can hit up one of these CFA breakfast buffets along the way.Somebody call the police because I just murdered the Chick-fil-a breakfast buffet.
maybe it is just cali - basic meal with Fies and drink is 8-9. Grilled chix club meal - 9.15 before tax, basic chicken meal -7.85 before tax. Pasadena, ca. I can get a large bowl of pho across the street for the same price. I can also get a chicken schwarma wrap for 5.00 down the street or a combo tri tip schrwarma plate for 9.95 (enough for two meals). I love the fries but it is a tiny chicken breast with way too much bun. Just my opinion.For one person? What do you get that costs as much as $10? In my experience, it's much less, around $6.I use to like this place until it started costing 8-10 to eat there. Honestly, I can get a good lunch or dinner for that price, granted I live in a city with a million choices.
Yes, San Francisco is known as a great place to eat on a budget.I use to like this place until it started costing 8-10 to eat there. Honestly, I can get a good lunch or dinner for that price, granted I live in a city with a million choices.
I think I can hear the sound of your heart grinding to a stop.It's the only thing that keeps my insane jealousy of your Disney trips in check. I sit at the buffet stuffing my face and tell myself "Bruce may make gold records and visit Disney all the time but he doesn't have glorious all-you-can-eat chicken". If you take this from me I'll have to consider murdering you.Bruce Dickinson said:I might switch my next Orlando trip from a flight to a drive so I can hit up one of these CFA breakfast buffets along the way.Somebody call the police because I just murdered the Chick-fil-a breakfast buffet.
Walk it back brochacho. I didn't say I was going to fire bomb the place over it, it just irks me.proninja said:It is very upsetting when someone holds beliefs that are different than my own, because dammit, I am right!HOW DARE THEY!!!i love the chicken strips.
What irks me is when you get your food and pay its always "have a blessed day".
what is on the breakfast buffet and how much does it cost? Mmmmmm breakfast.It's a low carb dieters dream. Granted it's loaded with sodium and the amount I eat boarders on the obscene but I try to limit my visits.I think I can hear the sound of your heart grinding to a stop.It's the only thing that keeps my insane jealousy of your Disney trips in check. I sit at the buffet stuffing my face and tell myself "Bruce may make gold records and visit Disney all the time but he doesn't have glorious all-you-can-eat chicken". If you take this from me I'll have to consider murdering you.Bruce Dickinson said:I might switch my next Orlando trip from a flight to a drive so I can hit up one of these CFA breakfast buffets along the way.Somebody call the police because I just murdered the Chick-fil-a breakfast buffet.
I see. Well then you have the option of cook-out for lunch, which pretty much trumps anything.I've only seen them in Georgia.I live in the south (kind of) and have never seen or heard of a CFA breakfast buffet.
I've wasted spent all these years on FBGs and I've finally found something I'm an expert in.I've only seen them in Georgia.I live in the south (kind of) and have never seen or heard of a CFA breakfast buffet.
Never seen a buffet.Cost I believe is 8.95 for adults (drink not included) and 5.95 for kids.
Italian, right next to the Mexican food. At a Wendy's. Didn't think about it as a kid, but definitely weird now.AAA describing this glorious Dwarf House/CFA buffet makes me want to move to ATL.
BTW, did anybody else grow up around Wendy's and KFC's that had buffets?
I used to tear the hell out of all-you-can-eat chicken livers at KFC. I remember the Wendy's buffet being awesome, but odd. Like with some italian type stuff, complete with garlic bread that was just burger buns with garlic and butter (well, of course it was some soybean oil product, but you get the picture).
Aren't you in KY? They are Atlanta only.Never seen a buffet.Cost I believe is 8.95 for adults (drink not included) and 5.95 for kids.
Maybe you need to change your catch phrase to take that to the Fil A, Chikans.:wakawaka:SWC said:they put one up on captiol drive here in milwaukeeland and it has like a four car wide drivethough it is like a bank maybe they send you food in a tube i do not know damndest thing i ever saw brohans take that to the bank
Nashville. Will have to stop by one next time I'm in Atlanta, which will probably be a long time from now. I dislike that city.Aren't you in KY? They are Atlanta only.Never seen a buffet.Cost I believe is 8.95 for adults (drink not included) and 5.95 for kids.
What a bunch of losers.proninja said:Wife and I were going to go there for dinner tonight, until I hopped on the twitters and saw this picture. Maybe tomorrow.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCMa3Z9VIAAdIJG.jpg:large
Just keep a copy of my posting history handy. No jury would convict you with that kind of evidence supporting your case.It's the only thing that keeps my insane jealousy of your Disney trips in check. I sit at the buffet stuffing my face and tell myself "Bruce may make gold records and visit Disney all the time but he doesn't have glorious all-you-can-eat chicken". If you take this from me I'll have to consider murdering you.Bruce Dickinson said:I might switch my next Orlando trip from a flight to a drive so I can hit up one of these CFA breakfast buffets along the way.Somebody call the police because I just murdered the Chick-fil-a breakfast buffet.
Carls Jr and Wendys used to have salad bars.AAA describing this glorious Dwarf House/CFA buffet makes me want to move to ATL.
BTW, did anybody else grow up around Wendy's and KFC's that had buffets?
I used to tear the hell out of all-you-can-eat chicken livers at KFC. I remember the Wendy's buffet being awesome, but odd. Like with some italian type stuff, complete with garlic bread that was just burger buns with garlic and butter (well, of course it was some soybean oil product, but you get the picture).
Not if it is on Sunday.Would they cater a gay wedding I wonder? - Asking for a friend.
His eyes lit up when you mentioned the restaurant that he goes to every single day?Was doing work with a guy not too long ago and lunch time came up. Was going to skip lunch but there was some down time so I asked if he wanted to go. Not having a lot of time I said I don't usually do fast food but Chick would be okay. His eyes lit up and he tells me he goes there every day for lunch. Every day! Seems a bit much.
Rubes.proninja said:Wife and I were going to go there for dinner tonight, until I hopped on the twitters and saw this picture. Maybe tomorrow.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCMa3Z9VIAAdIJG.jpg:large
Cook-out, the restaurant/fast food place? Don't get the appeal.I see. Well then you have the option of cook-out for lunch, which pretty much trumps anything.I've only seen them in Georgia.I live in the south (kind of) and have never seen or heard of a CFA breakfast buffet.
so you're in the Stockbridge area I take it?I've wasted spent all these years on FBGs and I've finally found something I'm an expert in.I've only seen them in Georgia.I live in the south (kind of) and have never seen or heard of a CFA breakfast buffet.
I've discussed it before but they are on at the Dwarf Houses and one other exception which is Truett's - a restaurant a little south of Atlanta named after the founder. I think there is about 8-10 Dwarf Houses around metro Atlanta - the original being in Hapeville. They have two sections - a regular Chick-fil-a side and a sit down side tht serves mostly the same food with better presentation and more expensive.
The buffet has eggs, grits, biscuits, gravy, bacon, sausage and of course Chick-fil-a chicken filets. They used to have French toast sticks but stopped them at my location.
Having owned franchises before, I'll know that owning 2 is far less than 2x the work of owning 1. Basically, once you understand the learning curve associated with running one, all you need is the right people in management and you can own more and more...You can pay a good manager a solid wage to basically "run" the place and then open another and another and another. Under this model, that scalability is gone.that actually that is a very good take home for a qsr - only being able to own one is stupid, that would be a deal killer. Last, burger king killed their franchisee's with royalty payments and mandatory marketing payments. Sounds like this is similar. Only being able to own one would be the deal killer for me.So really you don't OWN it if you don't build any equity or build the business. You can't decide to sell it to whomever you'd like; when you're done, you've made your salary, and you're done?Sounds like you pay the franchise fee and you just become an employee of CFA?So here's a few of the details:You were approved?Just approved by zoning to open one in Flemington NJ.
The wife and I went to a prospective franchisee meeting one time a few years ago. Interesting franchise model they have...
-They want approved franchisees to share their religious beliefs. Not necessarily as fanatical, but if you told them you were agnostic or Muslim, I doubt you'd be getting a franchise
-The part I found interesting is that they do all the location and build-out. You basically "run" the franchise within their parameters and give them a % of the revenues. I forget the % exactly. So basically, they get paid if you sell something, even if you're operating at a loss.
We didn't pursue the path any further because of these two major caveats:
-With very few exceptions, you can own a maximum of 1 franchise location.
-When you die, or decide to retire, THEY decide who the franchise transfers to. If I retired, and wanted to give it to my kids, I'd need Chick-fil-a approval. Likewise, I can't sell my franchise rights to someone else.
These two things greatly cap the earnings potential. They said that a good owner operator could take home $200-$300K...My wife and I felt we could do better elsewhere.
StalkerChatRick James said:so you're in the Stockbridge area I take it?
lol. I grew up in Stockbridge and my wife worked at the Truett's in high school.StalkerChatRick James said:so you're in the Stockbridge area I take it?
@Rick - no, I'm on the north side of Atlanta but lived in that area 30+ years ago. Truett's is there but I've only eaten there once. The Dwarf Houses are scattered all over metro Atlanta.
Pics of the buffet.
How old are you? My sister graduated from Stockbridge HS in 1988.lol. I grew up in Stockbridge and my wife worked at the Truett's in high school.@Rick - no, I'm on the north side of Atlanta but lived in that area 30+ years ago. Truett's is there but I've only eaten there once. The Dwarf Houses are scattered all over metro Atlanta.StalkerChatRick James said:so you're in the Stockbridge area I take it?
wow, people are odd...proninja said:Wife and I were going to go there for dinner tonight, until I hopped on the twitters and saw this picture. Maybe tomorrow.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCMa3Z9VIAAdIJG.jpg:large
Are you sure about the "can't own two Chick franchises"? I have a friend of a friend that owns one and is about to own another in a close by city. He said they are making her wait 2 years but that she will have it when the OK that market.Having owned franchises before, I'll know that owning 2 is far less than 2x the work of owning 1. Basically, once you understand the learning curve associated with running one, all you need is the right people in management and you can own more and more...You can pay a good manager a solid wage to basically "run" the place and then open another and another and another. Under this model, that scalability is gone.that actually that is a very good take home for a qsr - only being able to own one is stupid, that would be a deal killer. Last, burger king killed their franchisee's with royalty payments and mandatory marketing payments. Sounds like this is similar. Only being able to own one would be the deal killer for me.So really you don't OWN it if you don't build any equity or build the business. You can't decide to sell it to whomever you'd like; when you're done, you've made your salary, and you're done?Sounds like you pay the franchise fee and you just become an employee of CFA?So here's a few of the details:You were approved?Just approved by zoning to open one in Flemington NJ.
The wife and I went to a prospective franchisee meeting one time a few years ago. Interesting franchise model they have...
-They want approved franchisees to share their religious beliefs. Not necessarily as fanatical, but if you told them you were agnostic or Muslim, I doubt you'd be getting a franchise
-The part I found interesting is that they do all the location and build-out. You basically "run" the franchise within their parameters and give them a % of the revenues. I forget the % exactly. So basically, they get paid if you sell something, even if you're operating at a loss.
We didn't pursue the path any further because of these two major caveats:
-With very few exceptions, you can own a maximum of 1 franchise location.
-When you die, or decide to retire, THEY decide who the franchise transfers to. If I retired, and wanted to give it to my kids, I'd need Chick-fil-a approval. Likewise, I can't sell my franchise rights to someone else.
These two things greatly cap the earnings potential. They said that a good owner operator could take home $200-$300K...My wife and I felt we could do better elsewhere.
IMO, the risk of franchise ownership is that YOU are responsible for your own paycheck. If you f-up and the business doesn't do well, you don't do well. I feel like if you're willing to take that risk, you should be able to participate in the upside by owning more franchises if you can. I collect a regular paycheck from a large corporation now. In exchange for the stability of a paycheck that I get regardless of our performance (assumign we're not bankrupt), I acknowledge that my pay won't grow at the same rate as the business growth. Simple risk = reward. I get why CF does it this way...it's just not for me if I'm taking that kind of risk.
I specifically remember the comment being basically, "With very few exceptions, our franchisees own only one franchise." So I don't think it's prohibited...but it's also not common. They did say that in certain circumstances, it happens.Are you sure about the "can't own two Chick franchises"? I have a friend of a friend that owns one and is about to own another in a close by city. He said they are making her wait 2 years but that she will have it when the OK that market.Having owned franchises before, I'll know that owning 2 is far less than 2x the work of owning 1. Basically, once you understand the learning curve associated with running one, all you need is the right people in management and you can own more and more...You can pay a good manager a solid wage to basically "run" the place and then open another and another and another. Under this model, that scalability is gone.that actually that is a very good take home for a qsr - only being able to own one is stupid, that would be a deal killer. Last, burger king killed their franchisee's with royalty payments and mandatory marketing payments. Sounds like this is similar. Only being able to own one would be the deal killer for me.So really you don't OWN it if you don't build any equity or build the business. You can't decide to sell it to whomever you'd like; when you're done, you've made your salary, and you're done?Sounds like you pay the franchise fee and you just become an employee of CFA?So here's a few of the details:You were approved?Just approved by zoning to open one in Flemington NJ.
The wife and I went to a prospective franchisee meeting one time a few years ago. Interesting franchise model they have...
-They want approved franchisees to share their religious beliefs. Not necessarily as fanatical, but if you told them you were agnostic or Muslim, I doubt you'd be getting a franchise
-The part I found interesting is that they do all the location and build-out. You basically "run" the franchise within their parameters and give them a % of the revenues. I forget the % exactly. So basically, they get paid if you sell something, even if you're operating at a loss.
We didn't pursue the path any further because of these two major caveats:
-With very few exceptions, you can own a maximum of 1 franchise location.
-When you die, or decide to retire, THEY decide who the franchise transfers to. If I retired, and wanted to give it to my kids, I'd need Chick-fil-a approval. Likewise, I can't sell my franchise rights to someone else.
These two things greatly cap the earnings potential. They said that a good owner operator could take home $200-$300K...My wife and I felt we could do better elsewhere.
IMO, the risk of franchise ownership is that YOU are responsible for your own paycheck. If you f-up and the business doesn't do well, you don't do well. I feel like if you're willing to take that risk, you should be able to participate in the upside by owning more franchises if you can. I collect a regular paycheck from a large corporation now. In exchange for the stability of a paycheck that I get regardless of our performance (assumign we're not bankrupt), I acknowledge that my pay won't grow at the same rate as the business growth. Simple risk = reward. I get why CF does it this way...it's just not for me if I'm taking that kind of risk.
graduated from Stockbridge HS in 2003How old are you? My sister graduated from Stockbridge HS in 1988.lol. I grew up in Stockbridge and my wife worked at the Truett's in high school.@Rick - no, I'm on the north side of Atlanta but lived in that area 30+ years ago. Truett's is there but I've only eaten there once. The Dwarf Houses are scattered all over metro Atlanta.StalkerChatRick James said:so you're in the Stockbridge area I take it?
OMG. I'd seriously make a trip down there just to eat unlimited chicken. I'd plan my whole trip around that.Pics of the buffet.
My cousin's husband owns 2 here locally and applied for a 3rd, but got beat out by someone else for it.I specifically remember the comment being basically, "With very few exceptions, our franchisees own only one franchise." So I don't think it's prohibited...but it's also not common. They did say that in certain circumstances, it happens.Are you sure about the "can't own two Chick franchises"? I have a friend of a friend that owns one and is about to own another in a close by city. He said they are making her wait 2 years but that she will have it when the OK that market.Having owned franchises before, I'll know that owning 2 is far less than 2x the work of owning 1. Basically, once you understand the learning curve associated with running one, all you need is the right people in management and you can own more and more...You can pay a good manager a solid wage to basically "run" the place and then open another and another and another. Under this model, that scalability is gone.that actually that is a very good take home for a qsr - only being able to own one is stupid, that would be a deal killer. Last, burger king killed their franchisee's with royalty payments and mandatory marketing payments. Sounds like this is similar. Only being able to own one would be the deal killer for me.So really you don't OWN it if you don't build any equity or build the business. You can't decide to sell it to whomever you'd like; when you're done, you've made your salary, and you're done?Sounds like you pay the franchise fee and you just become an employee of CFA?So here's a few of the details:You were approved?Just approved by zoning to open one in Flemington NJ.
The wife and I went to a prospective franchisee meeting one time a few years ago. Interesting franchise model they have...
-They want approved franchisees to share their religious beliefs. Not necessarily as fanatical, but if you told them you were agnostic or Muslim, I doubt you'd be getting a franchise
-The part I found interesting is that they do all the location and build-out. You basically "run" the franchise within their parameters and give them a % of the revenues. I forget the % exactly. So basically, they get paid if you sell something, even if you're operating at a loss.
We didn't pursue the path any further because of these two major caveats:
-With very few exceptions, you can own a maximum of 1 franchise location.
-When you die, or decide to retire, THEY decide who the franchise transfers to. If I retired, and wanted to give it to my kids, I'd need Chick-fil-a approval. Likewise, I can't sell my franchise rights to someone else.
These two things greatly cap the earnings potential. They said that a good owner operator could take home $200-$300K...My wife and I felt we could do better elsewhere.
IMO, the risk of franchise ownership is that YOU are responsible for your own paycheck. If you f-up and the business doesn't do well, you don't do well. I feel like if you're willing to take that risk, you should be able to participate in the upside by owning more franchises if you can. I collect a regular paycheck from a large corporation now. In exchange for the stability of a paycheck that I get regardless of our performance (assumign we're not bankrupt), I acknowledge that my pay won't grow at the same rate as the business growth. Simple risk = reward. I get why CF does it this way...it's just not for me if I'm taking that kind of risk.
Keep in mind, we went to this seminar ~2 years ago, so maybe they've changed some...
Thanks for the info AAA.Pics of the buffet.
I'd just camp out there all day if they had nuggets....but that's not really a breakfast thing.Thanks for the info AAA.Pics of the buffet.
I'm traveling to Griffin, GA. sometime before August for work and I see that there is a Dwarf House there. I can see a Wednesday Night Breakfast Buffet in my future.
One question though.
Do they put the spicy chicken on the buffet or just the regular?
Also, chicken strips or just the filets?