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I go to CFA about once a week or so for a late lunch. Call a few emps and the owner by name. The last three visits I’ve gotten a card for a free breakfast sandwich. I’m sure they’re trying to promote breakfast sales but I believe they may think I’m a secret shopper.  :wub:

 
peaces said:
They're building one about a mile from me
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They built two in my area in the last two years  and both times people camped out for like a week to get free chick fil a for a year.  It was a big deal.  One of the openings was in Winter in Michigan too and the people still camped out.  Every time I drive by the place it is packed and it's been a year after opening - they even have construction cones out in the parking lot to direct traffic. 

 
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I must be the king of Chick-Fil-A surveys. I get one of these on my receipt at a pretty high rate recently. In fact, a couple weeks ago, I was redeeming a chick-fil-a sandwich from completing a survey from my previous visit and I got another another one! That's right, I got a free sandwich from a visit where I ordered a free sandwich! Winning!

 
dgreen said:
I must be the king of Chick-Fil-A surveys. I get one of these on my receipt at a pretty high rate recently. In fact, a couple weeks ago, I was redeeming a chick-fil-a sandwich from completing a survey from my previous visit and I got another another one! That's right, I got a free sandwich from a visit where I ordered a free sandwich! Winning!
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I order using the app, and it feels like I get something free about every 2 trips.

 
BLOCKED_PUNT said:
you must get really big orders then b/c it seems like it takes me forever to get a free treat. 
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Sandwich and fries, that's about it.  These aren't the free treats for points - I use the app to order, pick up my food, then the app asks me how my experience was.  Answer a couple of questions, and it gives a free treat.  The survey pops up 1/2 or 1/3 of the time for me.

 
dgreen said:
I must be the king of Chick-Fil-A surveys. I get one of these on my receipt at a pretty high rate recently. In fact, a couple weeks ago, I was redeeming a chick-fil-a sandwich from completing a survey from my previous visit and I got another another one! That's right, I got a free sandwich from a visit where I ordered a free sandwich! Winning!
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Got another one. I’m starting to think this location near work does this on every receipt. I can’t be this lucky. 

 
Politician Spock said:
Some things never change
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From the article:

The donations — $1,653,416 to the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, $6,000 to the Paul Anderson Youth Home, and $150,000 to the Salvation Army — actually represent a slight increase from the previous year
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The Salvation Army is a hate group? I'll never be able to watch Guys and Dolls the same way ever again.

BTW, the overall amount the article cites is to just these three groups.  You might want to unhitch your wagon to this particular horse. 

 
Charlie Steiner said:
From the article:

The Salvation Army is a hate group? I'll never be able to watch Guys and Dolls the same way ever again.

BTW, the overall amount the article cites is to just these three groups.  You might want to unhitch your wagon to this particular horse. 
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Ive been involved with FCA over the years and not heard a single anti gay message come from them either.

 
sho nuff said:
Ive been involved with FCA over the years and not heard a single anti gay message come from them either.
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There was another Chick-Fil-A thread that singled out FCA as well; I remember defending it there as well.  I can see secular humanists attacking them for other things, such as trying to infiltrate and set up prayer groups in schools, but they are still not a hate group.

PS: Good on ya.

 
Seems like every idiot has a website these days. "Chick-fil-A still hates gay people!!!" :lmao:  
If it's on the internet it must be true. So stupid. :lol:  

 
The only thing really damning is that they gave $6K to a place that does the whole gay conversion therapy BS.  That's pretty terrible.

The Salvation Army doesn't do anything bad that I'm aware of.

The one that got the majority of the money I'm unfamiliar with, but "promoting an anti-LGBT views" is kinda nebulous.  How?  I dunno.  

I've never eaten at Chik Fil A and likely never will regardless.  They used to directly fund several hate groups, I'm not over that and likely won't ever be.

 
click....click, click, click

That's pretty bad all around, though I do appreciate them being called out for their $6k donation.  The title "CFA gave $6000 to hate groups" won't generate as many clicks though.

 
Leroy Hoard said:
I wish people would quit calling them fast food.  Line is always a mile long when I go by. Nothing fast about that.
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They are consistently faster at getting folks their food than any other fast food place around us.  They are the fastest, cleanest, most polite, best tasting and most gay hating of all the FF places.

 
From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Salvation_Army#Criticism_by_LGBT_activists

Because the Salvation Army is a church, Title VII of the U.S. Civil Rights Act of 1964 allows it to inquire into people's religious beliefs in its hiring practices. The Salvation Army states that it does not "discriminate against hiring gays and lesbians for the majority of its roughly 55,000 jobs,"[150] but it has supported legislation which would allow it to deny employment and federally-funded services to lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) individuals.[151][152]

In 1997 the city of San Francisco enacted a law requiring all companies doing business with the city government to extend domestic benefits to same-sex partners of employees. In refusing to do so, the Salvation Army declined a US$3.5 million contract.[153] In 2001, the Salvation Army pressed the Bush Administration to exempt it and other religious groups from anti-discrimination legislation which it felt infringed on the organization's religious freedoms. This request was denied, and was sharply rebuked by David Smith, then-spokesperson for the Human Rights Campaign. "Gays and lesbians are taxpayers, too," said Smith. "Their money should not be used by religious groups to fund discriminatory practices against them."[150][154][155]

The Salvation Army Western Territory approved a plan in October 2001 to start offering domestic partnership benefits to employees in same-sex relationships.[156] Members of various evangelical Christian interest groups protested the decision. Focus on the Family founder James Dobson excoriated the Salvation Army for abandoning its "moral integrity" and urged his radio listeners to bombard the organisation's offices with phone calls and letters. The American Family Association also accused the Salvation Army of a "monstrous ... appeasement of sin" that resulted in a "betrayal of the church". In November 2001 the Salvation Army US-wide rescinded the Western Territory's decision with an announcement that it would only provide benefits coverage for different-sex spouses and dependent children of its employees.

In 2004, the Salvation Army said that it would close operations in New York City unless it was exempted from a municipal ordinance requiring them to offer benefits to gay employees' partners. The City Council refused to make the exemption. Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg’s administration chose not to enforce the ordinance. The administration's right to decline to enforce the ordinance was upheld by the New York State Court of Appeals in 2006.[157]

On 15 December 2012, in Canada, Andrea Le Good noticed a Salvation Army bell-ringer carrying a sign reading "if you support gay rights: please do not donate". While the bell-ringer claimed he had permission from the charity to wear the sign, Salvation Army spokeswoman Kyla Ferns said that it had no part in the sign, and that the bell-ringer was pulled away immediately when the charity learned about it.[158] The charity's website describes marriage as heterosexual by definition, and a published document called on homosexuals to embrace celibacy as a way of life. The same document also states that there is no scriptural support for the mistreatment of homosexuals.[158]

In February 2000, the Salvation Army in the United Kingdom publicly opposed the repeal of Section 28 of the Local Government Act 1988, which prevented local authorities from "intentionally promot[ing] homosexuality".[159] However, the organisation's UK website states that it offers "unconditional assistance and support regardless of race, religion, gender or sexual orientation, respecting the identity and choices of all those referred to them. ... As well as having a right to be dealt with professionally, people can expect from us encouragement and a respect for their individual beliefs, ambitions and preferences".[160]

Before the passing of the Homosexual Law Reform Act 1986 by the New Zealand Parliament, the Salvation Army was active throughout New Zealand gathering signatures for a petition seeking to prevent the bill's passing. In 2006, the Army released a statement regretting the ill feelings that persisted following this activity. It stated in part "We do understand though that The Salvation Army's official opposition to the Reform Bill was deeply hurtful to many, and are distressed that ill-feeling still troubles our relationship with segments of the gay community. We regret any hurt that may remain from that turbulent time and our present hope is to rebuild bridges of understanding and dialogue between our movement and the gay community."[161]

Despite documented events of Salvation Army's volunteers and their views, the organisation has issued an LGBT Statement as a response. The statement does not address any documented news events of discrimination and claims to debunk these events as urban myth.[162]

In November 2013 it was made known that the Salvation Army was referring LGBT individuals to one of several conversion therapy groups.[162] As a response the Salvation Army removed such referrals from their website.[163]
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From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellowship_of_Christian_Athletes#Criticism

The FCA sexual purity statement has been criticized because it includes statements against homosexuality, which must be signed by FCA representatives of the ministry including staff, trustees and adult volunteer ministry leaders. Student leaders sign a Student Leader Application when serving in leadership roles within the organization, but this application does not require signing the sexual purity statement.[25][15][26]
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(HULK) said:
The only thing really damning is that they gave $6K to a place that does the whole gay conversion therapy BS.  That's pretty terrible.

The Salvation Army doesn't do anything bad that I'm aware of.

The one that got the majority of the money I'm unfamiliar with, but "promoting an anti-LGBT views" is kinda nebulous.  How?  I dunno.  

I've never eaten at Chik Fil A and likely never will regardless.  They used to directly fund several hate groups, I'm not over that and likely won't ever be.
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I am sure they will survive without you!  

 
Beef Ravioli said:
Where’s the part about hate? When someone does not agree with something, it does not mean they are a hate group. 

Plus the spicy chicken is top shelf!! 
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Let's cut to the chase on this "does not agree" as at the heart of the disagreement is clearly hate.

There are people who believe god hates sin. They also believe homosexuality is a sin. Therefor they believe god hates homosexuality. 

Homosexuals disagree with that hate. 

 
Politician Spock said:
Let's cut to the chase on this "does not agree" as at the heart of the disagreement is clearly hate.

There are people who believe god hates sin. They also believe homosexuality is a sin. Therefor they believe god hates homosexuality. 

Homosexuals disagree with that hate. 
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To be fair, these groups feel that homosexuality is a sin, but they are expressing that by not supporting homosexuals by hiring them or whatever.

Hate groups are like the Westboro Baptist Church, which demonstrates against homosexuals, put out hate speech, and actively tries to hurt homosexuals.

If not supporting homosexuals makes the Salvation Army and FCA hate groups, then the people who boycott companies are hate groups.

 
bcdjr1 said:
To be fair, these groups feel that homosexuality is a sin, but they are expressing that by not supporting homosexuals by hiring them or whatever.

Hate groups are like the Westboro Baptist Church, which demonstrates against homosexuals, put out hate speech, and actively tries to hurt homosexuals.
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You're just differentiating between degrees of action. Believing that god hates sin, and that homosexuality is a sin is the motive behind all of it.  

bcdjr1 said:
If not supporting homosexuals makes the Salvation Army and FCA hate groups, then the people who boycott companies are hate groups.
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Depends on what the motive behind their boycott is. 

 
Wendy's makes a way better spicy chicken sandwich and I can get it on a Sunday and without a long line.  Wendy's also doesn't hate teh gays.

 
Politician Spock said:
You're just differentiating between degrees of action. Believing that god hates sin, and that homosexuality is a sin is the motive behind all of it.  
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Going with that, they also believe that god loves all humans, including sinners.  It's just the sin that he hates.  So they're hate groups because their god hates an action, even though he still loves the people committing the act?  So then all those people who say that they hate hate are part of a hate group, right?

 
bcdjr1 said:
Going with that, they also believe that god loves all humans, including sinners.  It's just the sin that he hates.  So they're hate groups because their god hates an action, even though he still loves the people committing the act?  So then all those people who say that they hate hate are part of a hate group, right?
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Who goes to hell... the sin, or the sinner?

If it's just the sin that he hates, then why isn't it the sin in hell instead of the sinner?

Psalm 5:4: “You are not a God who delights in wickedness. Evil may not dwell with you. The boastful shall not stand before your eyes. You hate all evildoers.”

In the above, he is not hating the action, he is hating the person. 

 
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They are replacing our local Dwarf House with a Truett’s.  I think it’s only the 2nd one of those they’ve opened.

ETA - I was wrong, it appears this will be the fourth 

 
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Politician Spock said:
Who goes to hell... the sin, or the sinner?

If it's just the sin that he hates, then why isn't it the sin in hell instead of the sinner?

Psalm 5:4: “You are not a God who delights in wickedness. Evil may not dwell with you. The boastful shall not stand before your eyes. You hate all evildoers.”

In the above, he is not hating the action, he is hating the person. 
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I believe the argument is that sinners end up in hell because they rejected god by sinning, not by god’s actions. God gives you free will, and it’s your choice to sin or not.

Quoting a Psalm doesn’t mean anything anymore. Modern Christians believe in the spirit of the Bible rather than the specific wording unless the specific wording fits their purposes. They also espouse “love the sinner, hate the sin”.

If you’re looking to determine that a group is a hate group because of their beliefs rather than their actions, your assumptions that any group of Christians is uniform in their beliefs is flawed. You’ll need to show that they all have stated themselves that they hate homosexuals.

 
Decided to have a cheat meal on my Keto and we went to Chick Fil A. They just reopened the one near us after being shutdown for a few months. Completely leveled the building and rebuilt from scratch. Very nice upgrade.

Damn, I've missed Chick Fil A since going Keto and  tonight was fabulous. No cheese sauce though. I asked. 

Also, I highly recommend the Frosted Key Lime while they have it. Oh so good.

 
bcdjr1 said:
I believe the argument is that sinners end up in hell because they rejected god by sinning, not by god’s actions. God gives you free will, and it’s your choice to sin or not.

Quoting a Psalm doesn’t mean anything anymore. Modern Christians believe in the spirit of the Bible rather than the specific wording unless the specific wording fits their purposes. They also espouse “love the sinner, hate the sin”.

If you’re looking to determine that a group is a hate group because of their beliefs rather than their actions, your assumptions that any group of Christians is uniform in their beliefs is flawed. You’ll need to show that they all have stated themselves that they hate homosexuals.
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That's a lot of mental gymnastics. And I know it well, because as a christian for 30+ years of my life, I played those mental gymnastics too. I now look back at that time of my life and how I thought and am ashamed of it all. 

If someone commits a criminal assault against someone else, then it's just a criminal assault... unless the motive was hate (for example, they did the assault because they (or their god) hates gays, or they (or their god) hates jews, or they (or their god) hates mexicans, etc, etc...), and then the criminal assault also becomes a hate crime. It's not the action that makes it a hate crime. It's the motive of hate that does.

This is not limited to crimes. If someone does action ABC, then it's just action ABC... unless the motive was hate, and then the action ABC becomes a hate action ABC. (note, I"m not speaking in the legal sense, but just in general how not all actions are motivated by hate, but some are). 

You can do all the mental gymnastics you want with sin, sinners, love, hate, god people, etc, etc... but none of that matters. Because it's all meaningless to the victims. LGBTQ people get treated the way they do because some religious people believe homosexuality is a sin, and god hates sin, so because of this they are choosing to treat LGBTQ with negative actions. And given the motive is hate, their action is a hate action. It's doesn't matter if the action is something extreme like burning down LGVTQ homes, or something as simple not hiring them, making a cake for them, or allowing them to participate. Their action, whatever the degree of action it is, is a hate action.  

The whole "love the sinner, hate the sin" mentality is nothing more than a way believers try to resolve it all in their own minds. But to the victim, it's meaningless. If god hates homosexuality, then in their eyes god hates them, because what they are is homosexual. They didn't make that choice anymore than you chose to be heterosexual (assuming you are). It has nothing to do with free will. it's not a choice. So if god (and by extension you by your negative action) hates homosexuality, then the homosexual is hated by god (and by extension you), because THEY ARE WHAT GOD (AND BY EXTENSION YOU) HATES!!! 

 
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Leroy Hoard said:
I wish people would quit calling them fast food.  Line is always a mile long when I go by. Nothing fast about that.
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It's like that at the one near my work as well, for the drive-thru, but I am not a lazy *******, so I get out of my car, am in and out in a couple of minutes during the lunch rush, and back to work within minutes. :yes:  

 
Politician Spock said:
Let's cut to the chase on this "does not agree" as at the heart of the disagreement is clearly hate.

There are people who believe god hates sin. They also believe homosexuality is a sin. Therefor they believe god hates homosexuality. 

Homosexuals disagree with that hate. 
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I’ll cut to the chase, we are not going to agree on this but I can promise you, I don’t hate you because of it. I’m bowing out.

 
I went with the fam about a month ago.  I really wanted to like it but it was just meh. The chicken sandwich seemed like all the others.

 
I am absolutely mystified that there's not one near me.

I live in rural Virginia right off an interstate exit. There's McDs, Burger King, Wendys, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, KFC, Arbys, 5 gas station convenience stores, and Dunkin Donuts - all right off of the exit. I'm in the middle of Trump country in a town with more churches than bars. You'd think this would be ideal for Chik Fil A, especially as the Arbys & Pizza Hut seem dead all of the time. 

I don't really care, as I rarely eat at any of those places. It just blows my mind that one isn't here, given the demographics.

 
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