Chris Henry May Be Deactivated This Week (1 Viewer)

[packersfan]

From RotoWorld:

There is speculation that Chris Henry could be deactivated for Sunday's game because he was involved in Odell Thurman's DUI arrest.

Henry was in the car at the time Thurman was pulled over and reportedly threw up out the window. WR Antonio Chatman is practicing again, so it would be an easier for move for coach Marvin Lewis. We won't know his decision until Sunday morning.

Source: Bengals.com

 

[Wooderson]

Just great... :(

 

[shakeybarn]

Kelley Washington

 

[Angry Beavers]

could the NFLPA get involved in this case? I would think not, but it seems that Henry may be punished without having had the opportunity to face his accusers - in this case an unsubstantiated report that he was puking - who knows - maybe he had a bad meal? or 25 drinks? how can you tell?

 

[Kirby]

could the NFLPA get involved in this case? I would think not, but it seems that Henry may be punished without having had the opportunity to face his accusers - in this case an unsubstantiated report that he was puking - who knows - maybe he had a bad meal? or 25 drinks? how can you tell?

He wasn't allowed to be around alcohol at all.

 

[Wooderson]

could the NFLPA get involved in this case? I would think not, but it seems that Henry may be punished without having had the opportunity to face his accusers - in this case an unsubstantiated report that he was puking - who knows - maybe he had a bad meal? or 25 drinks? how can you tell?

He wasn't allowed to be around alcohol at all.

It was the shrimp he had. Chris has always had a problem with seafood.

 

[packersfan]

could the NFLPA get involved in this case? I would think not

I would hope not. And this has nothing to do with Chris Henry or this particular situation. But I think it's wrong if a head coach isn't allowed to discipline a player. I don't like the idea of a head coach or an organization having their hands tied when it comes to dealing with players' behavior internally. As long as the player is being paid then I don't believe the NFLPA should become involved.

 

[Wilbur Wood]

It would be high time for Marvin Lewis to take a stand on these issues.

Henry's a walking time bomb, who so far hasn't had to so much as run an extra sprint at practice for all of his drunkeness and lawlessness.

 

[TommyGilmore]

The NFLPA can't get involved when it comes to playing time or being activated. We already went through with this with T.O. last year.

 

[einstein2u]

well....mr. lee evans....you are up.....don't let me down.

 

[pantagrapher]

Well, it was a fun subscriber contest run while it lasted.

 

[Angry Beavers]

Show me where he was drunk - he had bad shrimp! and as far as being around alcohol - please define that for me - if his wife/date has a glass of wine with dinner in a restaurant does he have to leave the table even though he is only drinking water? what if it is the people at the next table? can he not go to the grocery store cause they sell booze ( beer and wine in grocery stores in ohio)? seriously, can't see Marvin making a stand here - he hasn't yet and they are playing NE for Christsakes

I oughta add I don't neccessarily believe my stance about the alcohol thing - just playing devils advocate. I fail to see how he can be violating any kind of probation without proof (blood test etc.) that he was drinking. Thurman's statement that he was the most sober one of the group could have been just a lame try to talk himself out of a DUI!

 

[The Z Machine]

Obviously Washington is the sharky pickup here, but in my leagues, there's a short bench and I'm carrying a bunch of RBs since no one will trade with me.

Anyway, I think Washington's got the skills to replace Henry. It also seems to me that Housh is a bit better (one level?) above Henry in terms of playmaking. CJ is obviously the class here, but Kelly Washington is a good fill-in in that O.

 

[TitusIII]

Bull####...

 

[Lauryn]

thank goodness

here's to 85 getting more than 1 catch!

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

They should do more than deactivate him. A good coach would suspend him for the game, so he loses a paycheck.

 

[baronson]

whereas i fully admit that Henry is a complete basket case, and probably should have been disciplined a long time ago [edit] for his more serious infractions [end edit], since when does a boss have the right to judge someone for decisions made on their own time?

when you take a job, you are required to disclose any felony convictions. now i'm not sure if him drinking while on probation is a felony or not, but assuming its not, then what's the big deal? if he can perform on the field, i say let him be, so long as he isn't committing felonies.

i know i'm probably out on a limb here, but look at it this way: i'm an accountant. i work at a large investment bank. nobody knows what i do in my spare time, because as long as i get my work done while on the job, nobody cares. if someone here found out i was shoplifting or committing felonies, then i'd be at risk of being terminated. however, if i get caught urinating in public or committing another misdimeanor, then no one would know, and i sincerely doubt i'd be disciplined if my boss was made aware.

i think there are grey areas where athletes are held to a higher standard. perhaps thats reasonable, perhaps not. but it's an interesting discussion.

edited for clarification

 

[PatsWillWin]

Obviously Washington is the sharky pickup here, but in my leagues, there's a short bench and I'm carrying a bunch of RBs since no one will trade with me.

Anyway, I think Washington's got the skills to replace Henry. It also seems to me that Housh is a bit better (one level?) above Henry in terms of playmaking. CJ is obviously the class here, but Kelly Washington is a good fill-in in that O.

Off-the-field problems aside, Henry is 5x as talented as Washington.

 

[gman8343]

whereas i fully admit that Henry is a complete basket case, and probably should have been disciplined a long time ago, since when does a boss have the right to judge someone for decisions made on their own time?when you take a job, you are required to disclose any felony convictions. now i'm not sure if him drinking while on probation is a felony or not, but assuming its not, then what's the big deal? if he can perform on the field, i say let him be, so long as he isn't committing felonies.i know i'm probably out on a limb here, but look at it this way: i'm an accountant. i work at a large investment bank. nobody knows what i do in my spare time, because as long as i get my work done while on the job, nobody cares. if someone here found out i was shoplifting or committing felonies, then i'd be at risk of being terminated. however, if i get caught urinating in public or committing another misdimeanor, then no one would know, and i sincerely doubt i'd be disciplined.i think there are grey areas where athletes are held to a higher standard. perhaps thats reasonable, perhaps not. but it's an interesting discussion.

Henry was told by a judge to stay away from alcohol, no?

 

[baronson]

Henry was told by a judge to stay away from alcohol, no?

would that make it a felony? i'm not sure of the terms of his probation.

 

[buck naked]

I hope he is deactivated, for his own good.

He is supposed to b responsible after making all those other mistakes. If he can't learn from his mistakes, te team should take further action. I hope he is deactivated, and loses paychecks.

Its too bad for Cincinnati and the football fans if he is, because that team is fun to watch with all those WR's.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Isn't suspending him for Sunday's game the right thing to do? I own him in almost all my leagues so I would love to have him available, however he is not acting in a professional manner. He has been in trouble almost from day 1 in the NFL. Maybe he needs a timeout...and I do mean that in baby terms because that is how he is acting.

Cincinnati is out of control right now and there needs to be some order laid down or the season could spiral away.

 

[gman8343]

Henry was told by a judge to stay away from alcohol, no?

would that make it a felony? i'm not sure of the terms of his probation.

I don't either. All I know is the Bengals are pretty much thought of a bunch of criminals & thugs right now. Lewis needs to get control of his team and Henry is one of the worst offenders.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Henry was told by a judge to stay away from alcohol, no?

would that make it a felony? i'm not sure of the terms of his probation.

I don't either. All I know is the Bengals are pretty much thought of a bunch of criminals & thugs right now. Lewis needs to get control of his team and Henry is one of the worst offenders.

Lewis has absolutely no credibility right now with dealing with these kinds of things. They keep bringing in players with questionable character flaws, and he does nothing when his players committ crimes. After all Henry is done, to bench him after being the passenger seat of a car with a drunk driver while intoxicated himself is inconsistent with how Lewis has been so far.

 

[mozzy84]

the old comparing a regular old job to being an nfl player angle

they NEED to sit this guy down...

 

[joffer]

Obviously Washington is the sharky pickup here, but in my leagues, there's a short bench and I'm carrying a bunch of RBs since no one will trade with me.

Anyway, I think Washington's got the skills to replace Henry. It also seems to me that Housh is a bit better (one level?) above Henry in terms of playmaking. CJ is obviously the class here, but Kelly Washington is a good fill-in in that O.

Off-the-field problems aside, Henry is 5x as talented as Washington.

"over-exaggeration police.....you have a call on line one. thank you."

 

[PatsWillWin]

Obviously Washington is the sharky pickup here, but in my leagues, there's a short bench and I'm carrying a bunch of RBs since no one will trade with me.

Anyway, I think Washington's got the skills to replace Henry. It also seems to me that Housh is a bit better (one level?) above Henry in terms of playmaking. CJ is obviously the class here, but Kelly Washington is a good fill-in in that O.

Off-the-field problems aside, Henry is 5x as talented as Washington.

"over-exaggeration police.....you have a call on line one. thank you."

3x? 2.5x? The point is Henry >>> Washington. Disagree and say that Washington is better than Henry, or I'll call the Pointless-Posts-To-Be-Funny Police.

 

[KiddLattimer]

if his wife/date has a glass of wine with dinner in a restaurant does he have to leave the table even though he is only drinking water?

That depends... Is she old enough to drink? Or buy a lottery ticket for that matter?

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

to bench him after being the passenger seat of a car with a drunk driver while intoxicated himself is inconsistent with how Lewis has been so far.

Which is EXACTLY why he needs to do it.

 

[PatsWillWin]

to bench him after being the passenger seat of a car with a drunk driver while intoxicated himself is inconsistent with how Lewis has been so far.

Which is EXACTLY why he needs to do it.

Agreed. I was just pointing out that I don't think it's likely considering his track record and the relatively mild infraction this is when you're talking about a guy like Henry.

 

[#@%&$!?]

I doubt a week off will straighten the kid out. Public flogging would be much more effective.

 

[jafo]

Isn't suspending him for Sunday's game the right thing to do? I own him in almost all my leagues so I would love to have him available, however he is not acting in a professional manner. He has been in trouble almost from day 1 in the NFL. Maybe he needs a timeout...and I do mean that in baby terms because that is how he is acting.Cincinnati is out of control right now and there needs to be some order laid down or the season could spiral away.

3-0 out of control? This is quality laughter.

 

[jafo]

Henry was told by a judge to stay away from alcohol, no?

would that make it a felony? i'm not sure of the terms of his probation.

I don't either. All I know is the Bengals are pretty much thought of a bunch of criminals & thugs right now. Lewis needs to get control of his team and Henry is one of the worst offenders.

Lewis has absolutely no credibility right now with dealing with these kinds of things. They keep bringing in players with questionable character flaws, and he does nothing when his players committ crimes. After all Henry is done, to bench him after being the passenger seat of a car with a drunk driver while intoxicated himself is inconsistent with how Lewis has been so far.

Lewis is fed up with the situation and had done plenty to address the situations. Do some google searching.

 

[Banger]

The guy obviously has a problem with alchohol and probably needs some time away from the game to get his life in order before he hurts himself or worse yet someone else.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

could the NFLPA get involved in this case? I would think not, but it seems that Henry may be punished without having had the opportunity to face his accusers - in this case an unsubstantiated report that he was puking - who knows - maybe he had a bad meal? or 25 drinks? how can you tell?

He wasn't allowed to be around alcohol at all.

It was the shrimp he had. Chris has always had a problem with seafood.

It was an allergic reaction!

 

[Mungo Burrows]

whereas i fully admit that Henry is a complete basket case, and probably should have been disciplined a long time ago [edit] for his more serious infractions [end edit], since when does a boss have the right to judge someone for decisions made on their own time?

when you take a job, you are required to disclose any felony convictions. now i'm not sure if him drinking while on probation is a felony or not, but assuming its not, then what's the big deal? if he can perform on the field, i say let him be, so long as he isn't committing felonies.

i know i'm probably out on a limb here, but look at it this way: i'm an accountant. i work at a large investment bank. nobody knows what i do in my spare time, because as long as i get my work done while on the job, nobody cares. if someone here found out i was shoplifting or committing felonies, then i'd be at risk of being terminated. however, if i get caught urinating in public or committing another misdimeanor, then no one would know, and i sincerely doubt i'd be disciplined if my boss was made aware.

i think there are grey areas where athletes are held to a higher standard. perhaps thats reasonable, perhaps not. but it's an interesting discussion.

edited for clarification

I've highlighted the important part. You are anonymous; the fact that we are discussing Henry by name show's that he is not. He is a highly paid, and highly visible member of an organization who's "product" is entertainment for the masses - the world of image. Doing stuff like this damages the product. If you were caught in your spare time doing independent deals that give the impression of impropriety with respect to your accounting work, you would be disciplined because it damages the reputation of your company. Also, if you were on TV once a week representing your firm in the National Bean-counters League, you probably would get disciplined for blowing chunks out the side of an SUV driven by your plastered buddy from Accounts Payable, especially when you're already on probation that requires you stay away from alcohol.These guys make the decision to take money from a job that requires them to be in the public eye. They are not like you and me.

Edit to add: Like I said when this came out. It's very convenient of Lewis to wait until TJ is back from injury before he decides to "take a stand" for one of Henry's infractions. Way to go Marvin!

 

[gman8343]

Henry was told by a judge to stay away from alcohol, no?

would that make it a felony? i'm not sure of the terms of his probation.

I don't either. All I know is the Bengals are pretty much thought of a bunch of criminals & thugs right now. Lewis needs to get control of his team and Henry is one of the worst offenders.

Lewis has absolutely no credibility right now with dealing with these kinds of things. They keep bringing in players with questionable character flaws, and he does nothing when his players committ crimes. After all Henry is done, to bench him after being the passenger seat of a car with a drunk driver while intoxicated himself is inconsistent with how Lewis has been so far.

Lewis is fed up with the situation and had done plenty to address the situations. Do some google searching.

Describe "plenty". Guys are still getting in trouble, still being arrested. Can you point to me where Lewis has responded in a manner which suggests this team has more discipline?

 

[Wheelhouse]

Henry is a nice surprise, but hopefully he's nowhere near your WR2. This isn't a big issue. If anything it's better news for Chad and TJ who likely won't get the squeeze.

 

[Bad_Mo]

Lewis should bench him for at least 2 games. Make an example of the punk.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

I'd bet Lewis waits for the NFL to suspend/deactivate Henry...it would be a double whammy for the Bengals if they deactivate him 1-2 games and then later the NFL suspended him for 4 games.

 

[shadow2k]

and as far as being around alcohol - please define that for me - if his wife/date has a glass of wine with dinner in a restaurant does he have to leave the table even though he is only drinking water? what if it is the people at the next table? can he not go to the grocery store cause they sell booze ( beer and wine in grocery stores in ohio)? I oughta add I don't neccessarily believe my stance about the alcohol thing - just playing devils advocate. I fail to see how he can be violating any kind of probation without proof (blood test etc.) that he was drinking. Thurman's statement that he was the most sober one of the group could have been just a lame try to talk himself out of a DUI!

"Not being around alcohol" would prohibit you from even being in a restaurant that serves alcohol. But serving is different from selling, so grocery stores and 7-11 type stores selling beer don't count. But if your buddy is buying beer and riding in the same car with you, even if he doesn't plan to open it with you around, you'd best find another way home.Let's put it this way. For purposes of the law, if you are drunk, you can technically be charged with posession of alcohol...it's rare, but it happens when they have nothing better to charge you with (like a DUI). So if you're on probation that states you can't be around alcohol...that means you can't hang around drunk people either, because technically, you could be with someone in posession of a substance you aren't allowed to be around.That's the way the law works in my state, whether it's fair or not.So yes, Henry could possibly be charged with violating his probation, whether he was actually drunk or not. Especially when you consider he was in the car with a man who was committing a crime (DUI). That doesn't mean he WILL get in trouble for that incident. But it could happen. Hope that clears it up a bit.

 

[valhallan]

Has anything been confirmed??? So far all I've read is "Henry was in the car." So what. Where's the "suspension"??

I think this is all much ado about nuttin'.

 

[broncofan13000]

If Henry was going to be deactivated, wouldn't it have been announced already?

 

[kncks12]

If Henry was going to be deactivated, wouldn't it have been announced already?

Chad Johnson was on Sirius yesterday and Adam Shein asked him about Henry. Chad said Henry did nothing wrong and that is that. So either Chad was being tight lipped, which he never is, or Henry is not going to be deactivated.

 

[Godsbrother]

If Henry was going to be deactivated, wouldn't it have been announced already?

I believe this was all speculation by a sports writer. Lewis isn't about to deactivate Henry over this. It will be up to the NFL to suspend him...

 

[tombonneau]

I don't think The Warden deactivates Henry. If he wants to send a message, he'll suit him up and just play him as the fifth WR so he barely sees the field. No sense risking not suiting him up.

But I'm certainly liking TJ a whole lot more this week.

 

[Sheriff66]

From MMQB...

"It's a blessing. It's one of the best jobs you can have. I've been thinking a lot about how lucky I am and how many people would love to be in my shoes.''

-- Cincinnati wide receiver Chris Henry, who has been arrested four times for various offenses in the last year, after listening to commissioner Roger Goodell address the Bengals on Wednesday on the responsibility of NFL players to be good citizens.

:X

 

[Phurfur]

i know i'm probably out on a limb here, but look at it this way: i'm an accountant. i work at a large investment bank. nobody knows what i do in my spare time, because as long as i get my work done while on the job, nobody cares. if someone here found out i was shoplifting or committing felonies, then i'd be at risk of being terminated. however, if i get caught urinating in public or committing another misdimeanor, then no one would know, and i sincerely doubt i'd be disciplined if my boss was made aware.

If you were caught urinating in public multiple times and it was reported on the nation news and your company's name was dragged through the mud; you would be fired.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Lots of folks in glass houses throwing stones over this latest incident.

Bet half the folks on this board have yakked after too many drinks. Any many of those WELL after they were 23 years old.

Henry may or may not have violated his probation -- we don't know.

There's no question he's done one very stupid thing (the gun charge) and several dumb ones that lots of NFL-players and regular folks do ocassionally. Still stupid, still potentially dangerous, but hardly capital crimes or particularly unusual except that his get reported in the press.

I'm not so much trying to defend Henry here as call bull#### on people who think a kid puking out the passenger window on his own time is a homicidal maniac.

 

[gman8343]

Lots of folks in glass houses throwing stones over this latest incident.Bet half the folks on this board have yakked after too many drinks. Any many of those WELL after they were 23 years old.Henry may or may not have violated his probation -- we don't know. There's no question he's done one very stupid thing (the gun charge) and several dumb ones that lots of NFL-players and regular folks do ocassionally. Still stupid, still potentially dangerous, but hardly capital crimes or particularly unusual except that his get reported in the press.I'm not so much trying to defend Henry here as call bull#### on people who think a kid puking out the passenger window on his own time is a homicidal maniac.

Who's saying he's a homicidal maniac? All I'm saying is Henry was told to stay away from the booze. Apparently he didn't, and he was in the car with a drunk driver. Being drunk isn't a big deal by itself, but added to all his other prior problems, and after the judge specifically told him to say away from alcohol, it's the latest in the long line of stupid decisions.The glass houses analogy only works if we've had several prior arrests and a judge told us to not drink, and we blatantly ignored the warning, even though we knew it could affect a lucrative career.