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Chris Rainey - RB (1 Viewer)

Eminence

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Looking at highlights of this guy will make your draw absolutely drop. He, like Harvin took snaps from the Running Back position for the Florida Gators. The obvious knock on this guy is his size:

5,8 - 180 lbs (Rainey)

5,11 - 184 lbs (Harvin)

5,6 - 190 lbs (Sproles)

5,8 - 170 lbs (McCluster)

As you can see, his body type compares positively to other guys in the league.

1.) He's 3 inches shorter than Harvin but is 'heavier'.

2.) He's 2 inches taller than Sproles but is 'lighter'.

3.) He's 0 inches taller than McCluster but is 'heavier'.

So, we definitely can't 'rule out' specifically because of his body-type. Let's look at some measurables:

40 - Yard Dash



4.45 (Rainey)

4.41 (Harvin)

4.58 (McCluster)

4.47 (Sproles)

Bench Reps



16 (Rainey)

19 (Harvin)

20 (McCluster)

23 (Sproles)

As far as bench reps goes, Rainey is definitely the runt of the group. What is the difference between 16 and 19 reps, however? Not a rhetorical question, if someone can give me insight that'd be great. I'm trying to figure out this prospect.

36.5 (Rainey)

DNP (Harvin)

37.5 (McCluster)

33.0 (Sproles)

Broad Jump

120 (Rainey)

DNP (Harvin)

DNP (McCluster)

105 (Sproles)

3 - Cone Drill

6.5 (Rainey - best at the combine)

DNP (Harvin)

DNP (McCluster)

6.96 (Sproles)

20 - Yard Shuttle

3.93 (Rainey)

DNP

DNP

3.96 (Sproles)

Rainey's 'measurables' stack up with any of these others players (sans Harvin who did not run in all the drills).

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Why Chris Rainey?

A.) As the above shows, players have gotten it done with his size and measurables before. Superstars? No. Rosterable? Yes.

B.) Todd Haley is the new Offensive Coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He found creative ways to get both Dexter McCluster and Jamaal Charles the ball in Kansas City which made the most of every snap they took.

Last season McCluster put up:



40 Catches / 328 Yards / 1TD (7.1YPC)

114 Rushes / 516 Yards / 1TD (4.5YPC)

There's a few variables to shake out here:

1.) KC had a carousel at QB last season. Fielding Tyler Palko for 4 complete games.

2.) Jamaal Charles was injured last season.

C.) This is a copycat league and people no doubt saw the effectiveness of Darren Sproles last season and will likely try to incorporate similar packages of their own. This of course is speculation but Todd Haley is very creative as an Offensive Coordinator.

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But the KC situation isn't particularly relevant, we're talking Steelers and Rainey. What do we know about the Pittsburgh Steelers?

A.) They have two-explosive playmakers at Wide Receiver who will demand Safety Help (Wallace at least). This will leave both the Running Game open and passes underneath to a player like Rainey.

B.) Todd Haley likes having a committee at Running Back. In 2010 with both Thomas Jones and Jamaal Charles healthy the split was:

245 Carries / 846 Yards / 14 Catches / 122 Yards (Jones)

230 Carries / 1,476 Yards / 45 Catches / 468 Yards (Charles)

That's about 60 passes exclusively to the Running Back when both were healthy. Mendenhall only caught 18 passes last season and I suspect we see more passes to the HB under Haley's tutelage. Who do you think could possibly be the main beneficiary?

Let's go back to 2008 where Pass - Catching back Mewelde Moore took over the starters job for a few games:

http://www.nfl.com/player/meweldemoore/2505690/gamelogs?season=2008

Moore caught 40 balls yet only started 4 Games. This shows that when on the field, Roethlisberger will throw to a back who can catch.

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In conclusion,

I don't know IF Rainey is large enough to play RB / WR in the league. But others similar in size have effectively.

I don't know IF Rainy has all the physical took to play in this league. But others with similar measurables have.

I don't know IF Haley will run a RBBC in Pittsburgh. But Rainey would only need to snag a handful of carries to be considered as a WR3.

I don't know IF Haley will have a position similar to McCluster in KC. But Rainey would be IDEAL for that role.

Rainey is a player that can come in as a Rookie with his own set of packages. Todd Haley is a very creative playcaller. The health of Mendenhall and his position on the depth chart could determine Rainey's 2012 and future production. He can be had VERY cheap.

In redraft, avoid.

Dynasty, he's a must-have at his current price.

Enjoy some highlights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZtpSjDQLPk&feature=related

 
I don't know if it really changes anything for Rainey, but Harvin has stated in interviews that his playing weight in Minnesota is about 200 lbs (maybe a bit more or less depending on the year).

 
I don't know if it really changes anything for Rainey, but Harvin has stated in interviews that his playing weight in Minnesota is about 200 lbs (maybe a bit more or less depending on the year).
Didn't know that. You can argue that most guys can add on weight once they get to the next level. Although 3 inches and 20 lbs would make the Harvin comparison (sans playing a similar role at Florida) moot.
 
I dont think he'll ever get enough touches (in Pittsburgh at least), to worthwhile in redraft or dynasty. Plus, there is the off-field red flag.

I like the pick/risk by the Steelers, but I dont see him as fantasy relevant.

 
During the draft they interviewed Tomlin on NFLN and he commented on Rainey. He said that Haley would be able to use him like he had McCluster in KC, which doesn't make me particularly excited about his fantasy prospects.

 
He is nothing like Sproles. He will hit a few home runs due to his speed, but he doesn't have much else. Dominating bad opponents was his forte in college.

 
Similar to Harvin, but not nearly as dynamic against top competition. Plus, Harvin takes a WR spot while Rainey takes an RB spot. I like him in Pittsburgh, but fantasy-wise, I think McCluster is the best comparison... And that's not anything I'm falling over myself to roster.

 
Highly doubtful he's ever a fantasy worthy guy. He may go on and off rosters for a while after a few multiple catch games or breaks a long TD here or there, but I'd be stunned if he became a consistent producer.

 
As a Steeler fan I think Rainey could be incredible for us.But for fantasy he offers incredibly little. I know ppr makes it possible, but I dont see how he will be on the field enough.Maybe he could get a good number of catches (as much as 50?), but his ceiling is so very limited because he wont see the field on typical run downs or in the standard set. Better off to take some lottery picks elsewhere imo.
 
The 5’8 ¾”, 180-pound back will more than likely lighten the load that was put on Pro Bowler Antonio Brown on special teams, and handle the punt return duties for Pittsburgh.
This what I think his main roles are going to be.
 
'Eminence said:
5,8 - 180 lbs (Rainey)

40 - Yard Dash

4.45 (Rainey)
5,8 - 180 lbs (Couch Potato)10 - Yard Fridge Dash

4.45 (Couch Potato)

No doubt Rainey has to be awesome. :banned:

 
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he is listed as an WR by mfl. i think he can make hey as in ppr. i don't think they have a good slot guy.

 
'golfguy said:
he is listed as an WR by mfl. i think he can make hey as in ppr. i don't think they have a good slot guy.
Why would he be listed as a WR? Has he been lining up as a WR in training camp? Roto world sucks
 
Looking at highlights of this guy will make your draw absolutely drop. He, like Harvin took snaps from the Running Back position for the Florida Gators. The obvious knock on this guy is his size:

5,8 - 180 lbs (Rainey)

5,11 - 184 lbs (Harvin)

5,6 - 190 lbs (Sproles)

5,8 - 170 lbs (McCluster)

As you can see, his body type compares positively to other guys in the league.

1.) He's 3 inches shorter than Harvin but is 'heavier'.

2.) He's 2 inches taller than Sproles but is 'lighter'.

3.) He's 0 inches taller than McCluster but is 'heavier'.

So, we definitely can't 'rule out' specifically because of his body-type. Let's look at some measurables:

40 - Yard Dash

4.45 (Rainey)

4.41 (Harvin)

4.58 (McCluster)

4.47 (Sproles)

Bench Reps

16 (Rainey)

19 (Harvin)

20 (McCluster)

23 (Sproles)

As far as bench reps goes, Rainey is definitely the runt of the group. What is the difference between 16 and 19 reps, however? Not a rhetorical question, if someone can give me insight that'd be great. I'm trying to figure out this prospect.

36.5 (Rainey)

DNP (Harvin)

37.5 (McCluster)

33.0 (Sproles)

Broad Jump

120 (Rainey)

DNP (Harvin)

DNP (McCluster)

105 (Sproles)

3 - Cone Drill

6.5 (Rainey - best at the combine)

DNP (Harvin)

DNP (McCluster)

6.96 (Sproles)

20 - Yard Shuttle

3.93 (Rainey)

DNP

DNP

3.96 (Sproles)

Rainey's 'measurables' stack up with any of these others players (sans Harvin who did not run in all the drills).

-

Why Chris Rainey?

A.) As the above shows, players have gotten it done with his size and measurables before. Superstars? No. Rosterable? Yes.

....

In conclusion,

I don't know IF Rainey is large enough to play RB / WR in the league. But others similar in size have effectively.

I don't know IF Rainy has all the physical took to play in this league. But others with similar measurables have.

I don't know IF Haley will run a RBBC in Pittsburgh. But Rainey would only need to snag a handful of carries to be considered as a WR3.

I don't know IF Haley will have a position similar to McCluster in KC. But Rainey would be IDEAL for that role.

...

In redraft, avoid.

Dynasty, he's a must-have at his current price.

Enjoy some highlights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZtpSjDQLPk&feature=related
Keep a eye on the Rainey in Baltimore!! He leading the battle to be Ray Rice primary backup
There are two Raineys.

They are not related.

Chris Rainey is the one I heard of and saw before Bobby Rainey, but I think both were pretty popular with the locals.

Chris Rainey just landed with the Colts.

 
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Posted this in the other Rainey thread, but this one is probably more appropriate to discuss his prospects moving forward...

So this article from Pro Football Talk is a bit interesting...

In late September, former NFL running back Chris Rainey ran a 40-yard dash in the low 4.3s during a tryout with the Chiefs. Nearly two months later, someone has decided to give Rainey another job.

The Colts have announced that Rainey has signed with the team. He had a Tuesday tryout that, per a league source, included workouts from receivers Ramses Barden and Joe Adams, defensive tackle Christo Bilukidi, and defensive backs Marcus Burley and Sherrod Martin.

Rainey, a fifth-round draft pick in 2012, was dumped by the Steelers in the offseason after a string of off-field issues, culminating in an allegation that he assaulted his girlfriend. (Rainey’s girlfriend later denied that she had been assaulted.)

It would be easy to assume that Chris Rainey caught the eye of the Colts because his brother, Bobby, had three touchdowns for the Buccaneers on Sunday. The only flaw in that assessment is that Chris and Bobby Rainey aren’t related.

Actually, Chris Rainey is the younger brother of former NFL running back Rod Smart, who is best known for choosing to display the phrase “He Hate Me” on the back of his jersey while playing in the anything-goes XFL.
He Hate Me Pt II. Love it.

 
Looking at highlights of this guy will make your draw absolutely drop. He, like Harvin took snaps from the Running Back position for the Florida Gators. The obvious knock on this guy is his size:

5,8 - 180 lbs (Rainey)

5,11 - 184 lbs (Harvin)

5,6 - 190 lbs (Sproles)

5,8 - 170 lbs (McCluster)

As you can see, his body type compares positively to other guys in the league.

1.) He's 3 inches shorter than Harvin but is 'heavier'.

2.) He's 2 inches taller than Sproles but is 'lighter'.

3.) He's 0 inches taller than McCluster but is 'heavier'.

So, we definitely can't 'rule out' specifically because of his body-type. Let's look at some measurables:

40 - Yard Dash

4.45 (Rainey)

4.41 (Harvin)

4.58 (McCluster)

4.47 (Sproles)

Bench Reps

16 (Rainey)

19 (Harvin)

20 (McCluster)

23 (Sproles)

As far as bench reps goes, Rainey is definitely the runt of the group. What is the difference between 16 and 19 reps, however? Not a rhetorical question, if someone can give me insight that'd be great. I'm trying to figure out this prospect.

36.5 (Rainey)

DNP (Harvin)

37.5 (McCluster)

33.0 (Sproles)

Broad Jump

120 (Rainey)

DNP (Harvin)

DNP (McCluster)

105 (Sproles)

3 - Cone Drill

6.5 (Rainey - best at the combine)

DNP (Harvin)

DNP (McCluster)

6.96 (Sproles)

20 - Yard Shuttle

3.93 (Rainey)

DNP

DNP

3.96 (Sproles)

Rainey's 'measurables' stack up with any of these others players (sans Harvin who did not run in all the drills).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZtpSjDQLPk&feature=related
FWIW - Rainey supposedly ran a 40-yard dash in the low 4.3s at a tryout with the Chiefs earlier this year. According to the article, at least one stopwatch had him at a 4.29. That is blazing...

 
Just added this guy in Dynasty, looks like the Colts are gonna give him a go. I like his talent in the right situation.

I feel if there's a place for Darren Sproles in this league, there's a place for Chris Rainey. It's too bad the guy seems like a borderline psychopath.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvUO2gM6QSo

He's made plays on the NFL level.

 
If you see the video below he seems like he has some mental issues.

http://www.colts.com/videos/videos/Chris_Rainey_Im_just_glad_to_be_back/1e0a0229-d0a8-4300-bae0-1438eb16465b

Pagano was non committal on whether he would stick around when directly asked at his press conference (he really doesn't want to be in front of cameras/journalists at all, really funny to see how he steels himself before opening, how he fidgets and never looks at the camera and how quickly he is gone when it is over)

I believe the question was 'will he stick around or is this just because you have the roster spot this week' and his answer was 'Time will tell'.

There was some mention of punt and kickoff returner also 'He's done it in the past, we know he's capable'...

http://www.colts.com/videos/videos/Pagano-He-understands-what-the-expectations-are/5ec99e22-0a40-4004-9207-3e85899301f3

Safe to say that they will give him some touches this week if he practices well, whether it will be limited to special teams is anyone's guess

ETA: I can't believe I am actually thinking of starting Rainey in the flex, only because everyone else is injured, on bye, or James Starks...

 
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I think it's a touch harsh to suggest he has mental issues simply because he's not the most eloquent guy in front of reporters. I've seen far, far worse from NFL players.

Anyway - will be interesting to see if 1) he's active; and 2) if they begin utilizing him outside of just returns. Like Eminence said, he's made plays before at the NFL level, and has a pretty unique skill (elite speed).

 
Thinking about cutting Rogers for this guy... which oft-troubled yout should I roll the dice on?

Colts have quite a pair here...

 
JFS171 said:
I think it's a touch harsh to suggest he has mental issues simply because he's not the most eloquent guy in front of reporters. I've seen far, far worse from NFL players.

Anyway - will be interesting to see if 1) he's active; and 2) if they begin utilizing him outside of just returns. Like Eminence said, he's made plays before at the NFL level, and has a pretty unique skill (elite speed).
I guess it was the off field stuff, paired with the head movement paired with the 'if I am not playing football why am I still living' comment

 
JFS171 said:
I think it's a touch harsh to suggest he has mental issues simply because he's not the most eloquent guy in front of reporters. I've seen far, far worse from NFL players.

Anyway - will be interesting to see if 1) he's active; and 2) if they begin utilizing him outside of just returns. Like Eminence said, he's made plays before at the NFL level, and has a pretty unique skill (elite speed).
I guess it was the off field stuff, paired with the head movement paired with the 'if I am not playing football why am I still living' comment
I think his comment was, "why am I still LIFTING?" Perhaps I heard it wrong . . .

 

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