Cindy Sheehan calls it quits (1 Viewer)

[redman]

I can't imagine anything more disrespecting to a dead person than disrespecting the dead person's mother because she doesn't jive with your myopic views. A mother's bond with her child will always trump your limited knowledge of the world. Let the woman grieve. Your ability to figuratively wear the super-important, look at me I'm patriotic, American flag lapel pin will be still be there after she's gone.If your mom outlives you, hope the lard asses in your town don't spit on her for picketing the Burger King that clogged your arteries.

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[UlyssesNorris]

I can't imagine anything more disrespecting to a dead person than disrespecting the dead person's mother because she doesn't jive with your myopic views. A mother's bond with her child will always trump your limited knowledge of the world. Let the woman grieve. Your ability to figuratively wear the super-important, look at me I'm patriotic, American flag lapel pin will be still be there after she's gone.

If your mom outlives you, hope the lard asses in your town don't spit on her for picketing the Burger King that clogged your arteries.

Sheeeey-it!Edit: She has had it pretty tough

 

[seahawk 17]

I feel bad for her husband and her children that are living who had to be embarassed by her actions, and neglected.(Marriage ended in divorce)

Why stop? The war is still going on, soldiers are still dying....I smell hidden agenda for quitting.

 

[bigbottom]

I feel bad for her husband and her children that are living who had to be embarassed by her actions, and neglected.(Marriage ended in divorce)Why stop? The war is still going on, soldiers are still dying....I smell hidden agenda for quitting.

Well, she was just betrayed by her so-called allies. I suspect that might have something to do with why she's quitting now.

 

[dickey moe]

I can't imagine anything more disrespecting to a dead person than disrespecting the dead person's mother because she doesn't jive with your myopic views. A mother's bond with her child will always trump your limited knowledge of the world. Let the woman grieve. Your ability to figuratively wear the super-important, look at me I'm patriotic, American flag lapel pin will be still be there after she's gone.If your mom outlives you, hope the lard asses in your town don't spit on her for picketing the Burger King that clogged your arteries.

She can grieve all she wants to Nipsey. But when she starts saying stupid, harmful things such as labelling Americans as terrorists, we have the right to criticize her as the clueless pawn that she is.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

That you even needed an explanation as to why the guy's death meant something is feeble. That's the point.

Wrong again. When someone says something is meaningful to him, then "What does it mean to you?" is a perfectly valid question.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Yup, and when I decided to imply some political agenda on his part, he got all defensive.

Wrong again. Just calling you out.Feel free to show a link to support your claim.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

Her son's death isn't meaningless just because she says so.

Her son found his calling meaningful. She's upset he's gone, but the fact that she refused to accept his choice is where I have a beef with the woman.

His death meant something. To him, to me, to this country. I'm saddened that she feels it meaningless.

Could you elaborate on what his death meant to you or to this country?

For me, the military, police, fire and other public servants are the most admirable of professions and each and every person's sacrifice, whether it be their life, their time away from families, or the risk of serious injury or harm they put themselves in on a daily basis is absolutely meaningful to me. Am I allowed to question the decision of the commander in chief and the politicians who choose how to fight this war? Sure. But this young man's decision to fight for our country should NEVER, F'N EVER be said to have been for nothing. He is to be honored and admired. SO FREAKING IRONIC THAT TODAY IS THE DAY AFTER MEMORIAL DAY AND I HAVE TO FREAKING EXPLAIN THIS.

Good Posting doesn't cover it here... Excellent Posting.

Not really. The day after Memorial Day doesn't have anything to do with explaining what you mean when you say someone's death meant something to you. And when the explanation is finally given that it is "absolutely meaningful" to himit seems more like empty chest-thumping, flag-waiving, patriotic-posturing posting than good posting to me.

Are you just focusing on the last sentence because it's in all CAPS? This is about more than just Memorial Day. This is about a man who put his life on the line and made the ultimate sacfrifice because his country asked him to. Set your political opinions aside for a minute and try to focus on that, whether you think the war is "right" or not.

That makes no sense. I ask a question to hear another's point of view - and get a political rant. And then you tell me to set aside my political opinions? If you can't explain what you mean, that's cool, I was basically asking anyone who felt that way.

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[NorvilleBarnes]

Her son's death isn't meaningless just because she says so.

Her son found his calling meaningful. She's upset he's gone, but the fact that she refused to accept his choice is where I have a beef with the woman.

His death meant something. To him, to me, to this country. I'm saddened that she feels it meaningless.

Could you elaborate on what his death meant to you or to this country?

For me, the military, police, fire and other public servants are the most admirable of professions and each and every person's sacrifice, whether it be their life, their time away from families, or the risk of serious injury or harm they put themselves in on a daily basis is absolutely meaningful to me. Am I allowed to question the decision of the commander in chief and the politicians who choose how to fight this war? Sure. But this young man's decision to fight for our country should NEVER, F'N EVER be said to have been for nothing. He is to be honored and admired. SO FREAKING IRONIC THAT TODAY IS THE DAY AFTER MEMORIAL DAY AND I HAVE TO FREAKING EXPLAIN THIS.

Good Posting doesn't cover it here... Excellent Posting.

Not really. The day after Memorial Day doesn't have anything to do with explaining what you mean when you say someone's death meant something to you. And when the explanation is finally given that it is "absolutely meaningful" to himit seems more like empty chest-thumping, flag-waiving, patriotic-posturing posting than good posting to me.

Are you just focusing on the last sentence because it's in all CAPS? This is about more than just Memorial Day. This is about a man who put his life on the line and made the ultimate sacfrifice because his country asked him to. Set your political opinions aside for a minute and try to focus on that, whether you think the war is "right" or not.

That makes no sense. I ask a question to hear another's point of view - and get a political rant. And then you tell me to set aside my political opinions? If you can't explain what you mean, that's cool, I was basically asking anyone who felt that way.

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Thanks - forgot I never got an answer to my question about what political opinions I'm supposed to set aside.Not holding my breath though.

 

[redman]

Yup, and when I decided to imply some political agenda on his part, he got all defensive.

Wrong again. Just calling you out.Feel free to show a link to support your claim.

Deflect, deflect, deflect. You have weak game.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

Her son's death isn't meaningless just because she says so.

Her son found his calling meaningful. She's upset he's gone, but the fact that she refused to accept his choice is where I have a beef with the woman.

His death meant something. To him, to me, to this country. I'm saddened that she feels it meaningless.

Could you elaborate on what his death meant to you or to this country?

For me, the military, police, fire and other public servants are the most admirable of professions and each and every person's sacrifice, whether it be their life, their time away from families, or the risk of serious injury or harm they put themselves in on a daily basis is absolutely meaningful to me. Am I allowed to question the decision of the commander in chief and the politicians who choose how to fight this war? Sure. But this young man's decision to fight for our country should NEVER, F'N EVER be said to have been for nothing. He is to be honored and admired. SO FREAKING IRONIC THAT TODAY IS THE DAY AFTER MEMORIAL DAY AND I HAVE TO FREAKING EXPLAIN THIS.

Good Posting doesn't cover it here... Excellent Posting.

Not really. The day after Memorial Day doesn't have anything to do with explaining what you mean when you say someone's death meant something to you. And when the explanation is finally given that it is "absolutely meaningful" to himit seems more like empty chest-thumping, flag-waiving, patriotic-posturing posting than good posting to me.

Are you just focusing on the last sentence because it's in all CAPS? This is about more than just Memorial Day. This is about a man who put his life on the line and made the ultimate sacfrifice because his country asked him to. Set your political opinions aside for a minute and try to focus on that, whether you think the war is "right" or not.

That makes no sense. I ask a question to hear another's point of view - and get a political rant. And then you tell me to set aside my political opinions? If you can't explain what you mean, that's cool, I was basically asking anyone who felt that way.

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Thanks - forgot I never got an answer to my question about what political opinions I'm supposed to set aside.Not holding my breath though.

That question wasn't directed at me.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Yup, and when I decided to imply some political agenda on his part, he got all defensive.

Wrong again. Just calling you out.Feel free to show a link to support your claim.

Deflect, deflect, deflect. You have weak game.

Wrong again. It's not a deflect, I'm calling you out. It's a challenge. There's a difference. Feel free to step up.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Her son's death isn't meaningless just because she says so.

Her son found his calling meaningful. She's upset he's gone, but the fact that she refused to accept his choice is where I have a beef with the woman.

His death meant something. To him, to me, to this country. I'm saddened that she feels it meaningless.

Could you elaborate on what his death meant to you or to this country?

For me, the military, police, fire and other public servants are the most admirable of professions and each and every person's sacrifice, whether it be their life, their time away from families, or the risk of serious injury or harm they put themselves in on a daily basis is absolutely meaningful to me. Am I allowed to question the decision of the commander in chief and the politicians who choose how to fight this war? Sure. But this young man's decision to fight for our country should NEVER, F'N EVER be said to have been for nothing. He is to be honored and admired. SO FREAKING IRONIC THAT TODAY IS THE DAY AFTER MEMORIAL DAY AND I HAVE TO FREAKING EXPLAIN THIS.

Good Posting doesn't cover it here... Excellent Posting.

Not really. The day after Memorial Day doesn't have anything to do with explaining what you mean when you say someone's death meant something to you. And when the explanation is finally given that it is "absolutely meaningful" to himit seems more like empty chest-thumping, flag-waiving, patriotic-posturing posting than good posting to me.

Are you just focusing on the last sentence because it's in all CAPS? This is about more than just Memorial Day. This is about a man who put his life on the line and made the ultimate sacfrifice because his country asked him to. Set your political opinions aside for a minute and try to focus on that, whether you think the war is "right" or not.

That makes no sense. I ask a question to hear another's point of view - and get a political rant. And then you tell me to set aside my political opinions? If you can't explain what you mean, that's cool, I was basically asking anyone who felt that way.

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Thanks - forgot I never got an answer to my question about what political opinions I'm supposed to set aside.Not holding my breath though.

That question wasn't directed at me.

Correct.

 

[Beaumont]

If Sheehan valued her son's life so greatly that losing him in a misguided war seems meaningless to her I see no grounds for anyone else to contradict her belief.

While a servicemember giving his or her life in this disaster of a war may be noble, that nobility does not give the loss of life meaning.

If you believe like she does that this war is/has been without any real accomplishment for our Nation, her statement is 100% correct. Her son's death, and in fact the entire war, has accomplished nothing positive for our Nation when viewed on a broad basis. And considering how much she obviously loved him, the meaningless loss of his life must be what tears at her the most ...

 

[seahawk 17]

I feel bad for her husband and her children that are living who had to be embarassed by her actions, and neglected.(Marriage ended in divorce)

Why stop? The war is still going on, soldiers are still dying....I smell hidden agenda for quitting.

Well, she was just betrayed by her so-called allies. I suspect that might have something to do with why she's quitting now.

What happened?

 

[Death Bytes]

I feel bad for her husband and her children that are living who had to be embarassed by her actions, and neglected.(Marriage ended in divorce)

Why stop? The war is still going on, soldiers are still dying....I smell hidden agenda for quitting.

Well, she was just betrayed by her so-called allies. I suspect that might have something to do with why she's quitting now.

What happened?

The Democrats who campaigned in 2006 and won aren't living up to their campaign promises.

 

[fsword]

Has the war in Iraq had an unintended benefit? We have not had a terrorist incident in the United States since 9/11. Perhaps because the radicals have easier, more accessable targets in Iraq?

I guess you could call that an even tradeoff, considering as many people died in Iraq as 9/11. Except Iraq is more expensive.

When stating the action in Iraq is more expensive than 9/11, how are you measuring costs? You mentioned the human casualties before stating Iraq is more expensive, so human casualties aren't your currency. Are costs measured in government expenditures, GDP, general economic prosperity?How much did 9/11 cost in real economic terms? How much has the federal war spending helped the economy. This war has been a major federal money machine that is helping rebuild the US manufacturing base while refitting/updating the military equipment and technology.

Also, had there been no response to 9/11, would the US have encouraged more attacks, and what would have been their effects of a US economy already in a mess after the stock market collapse and 9/11?

Thanks, I will hang up and listen.

 

[fsword]

I can't imagine anything more disrespecting to a dead person than disrespecting the dead person's mother because she doesn't jive with your myopic views. A mother's bond with her child will always trump your limited knowledge of the world. Let the woman grieve. Your ability to figuratively wear the super-important, look at me I'm patriotic, American flag lapel pin will be still be there after she's gone.If your mom outlives you, hope the lard asses in your town don't spit on her for picketing the Burger King that clogged your arteries.

Cindy has disrespected the mothers of other dead servicemen, hence she violated the "doesn't jive with your myopic views" theory. Does she get a mulligan, or should she simply have never laced'em up in the first place? TIA for the clarification.

 

[Beaumont]

Cindy has disrespected the mothers of other dead servicemen ...

Example?

 

[Elway Lives]

I can't imagine anything more disrespecting to a dead person than disrespecting the dead person's mother because she doesn't jive with your myopic views. A mother's bond with her child will always trump your limited knowledge of the world. Let the woman grieve. Your ability to figuratively wear the super-important, look at me I'm patriotic, American flag lapel pin will be still be there after she's gone.

If your mom outlives you, hope the lard asses in your town don't spit on her for picketing the Burger King that clogged your arteries.

Most of us are not disrespecting her for that reason.

 

[aardball44]

Has the war in Iraq had an unintended benefit? We have not had a terrorist incident in the United States since 9/11. Perhaps because the radicals have easier, more accessable targets in Iraq?

I guess you could call that an even tradeoff, considering as many people died in Iraq as 9/11. Except Iraq is more expensive.

When stating the action in Iraq is more expensive than 9/11, how are you measuring costs? You mentioned the human casualties before stating Iraq is more expensive, so human casualties aren't your currency. Are costs measured in government expenditures, GDP, general economic prosperity?How much did 9/11 cost in real economic terms? How much has the federal war spending helped the economy. This war has been a major federal money machine that is helping rebuild the US manufacturing base while refitting/updating the military equipment and technology.

Also, had there been no response to 9/11, would the US have encouraged more attacks, and what would have been their effects of a US economy already in a mess after the stock market collapse and 9/11?

Thanks, I will hang up and listen.

Thanks for putting this war in perspective for us. Now that I know it's been fought to pump up the US economy, I don't have the same sense of outrage as I did yesterday.

Oh, wait. Yes I do.

 

[SofaKings]

Good riddance to that loon.

 

[jafo]

Good riddance to that loon.

 

[aardball44]

More opinions on Cindy's decision to call it quits.

 

[cartel]

Has the war in Iraq had an unintended benefit? We have not had a terrorist incident in the United States since 9/11. Perhaps because the radicals have easier, more accessable targets in Iraq?

I guess you could call that an even tradeoff, considering as many people died in Iraq as 9/11. Except Iraq is more expensive.

When stating the action in Iraq is more expensive than 9/11, how are you measuring costs? You mentioned the human casualties before stating Iraq is more expensive, so human casualties aren't your currency. Are costs measured in government expenditures, GDP, general economic prosperity?How much did 9/11 cost in real economic terms? How much has the federal war spending helped the economy. This war has been a major federal money machine that is helping rebuild the US manufacturing base while refitting/updating the military equipment and technology.

Also, had there been no response to 9/11, would the US have encouraged more attacks, and what would have been their effects of a US economy already in a mess after the stock market collapse and 9/11?

Thanks, I will hang up and listen.

If the our government wanted to piss money away to pump up the economy I can think of a lot of better places to do it then in the manufacturing industry. Perhaps in R and D into real energy solutions. Also Afghanastan was a response to the terrorists, Iraq was just a stupid conquest by a bunch of idiot old men.

 

[fsword]

Has the war in Iraq had an unintended benefit? We have not had a terrorist incident in the United States since 9/11. Perhaps because the radicals have easier, more accessable targets in Iraq?

I guess you could call that an even tradeoff, considering as many people died in Iraq as 9/11. Except Iraq is more expensive.

When stating the action in Iraq is more expensive than 9/11, how are you measuring costs? You mentioned the human casualties before stating Iraq is more expensive, so human casualties aren't your currency. Are costs measured in government expenditures, GDP, general economic prosperity?How much did 9/11 cost in real economic terms? How much has the federal war spending helped the economy. This war has been a major federal money machine that is helping rebuild the US manufacturing base while refitting/updating the military equipment and technology.

Also, had there been no response to 9/11, would the US have encouraged more attacks, and what would have been their effects of a US economy already in a mess after the stock market collapse and 9/11?

Thanks, I will hang up and listen.

If the our government wanted to piss money away to pump up the economy I can think of a lot of better places to do it then in the manufacturing industry. Perhaps in R and D into real energy solutions. Also Afghanastan was a response to the terrorists, Iraq was just a stupid conquest by a bunch of idiot old men.

Redistribution of income has been a failure, and keeping some sort of manufacturing base in tact is a matter of national security. It can also be easily argued keeping the manufacturing base employed with government contracts is just another union subsidy or some other form of income redistribution; and this is arguably even more improtant now with all the outsourcing and jobs the evil corporations are moving overseas. Maybe there are better ways to spend the taxpayers money, but the same could be said about most welfare spending and government operations in general; and this is nothing new.Not sure what this has to do with any economic argument.

Happy weekend.

 

[cartel]

Has the war in Iraq had an unintended benefit? We have not had a terrorist incident in the United States since 9/11. Perhaps because the radicals have easier, more accessable targets in Iraq?

I guess you could call that an even tradeoff, considering as many people died in Iraq as 9/11. Except Iraq is more expensive.

When stating the action in Iraq is more expensive than 9/11, how are you measuring costs? You mentioned the human casualties before stating Iraq is more expensive, so human casualties aren't your currency. Are costs measured in government expenditures, GDP, general economic prosperity?How much did 9/11 cost in real economic terms? How much has the federal war spending helped the economy. This war has been a major federal money machine that is helping rebuild the US manufacturing base while refitting/updating the military equipment and technology.

Also, had there been no response to 9/11, would the US have encouraged more attacks, and what would have been their effects of a US economy already in a mess after the stock market collapse and 9/11?

Thanks, I will hang up and listen.

If the our government wanted to piss money away to pump up the economy I can think of a lot of better places to do it then in the manufacturing industry. Perhaps in R and D into real energy solutions. Also Afghanastan was a response to the terrorists, Iraq was just a stupid conquest by a bunch of idiot old men.

Redistribution of income has been a failure, and keeping some sort of manufacturing base in tact is a matter of national security. It can also be easily argued keeping the manufacturing base employed with government contracts is just another union subsidy or some other form of income redistribution; and this is arguably even more improtant now with all the outsourcing and jobs the evil corporations are moving overseas. Maybe there are better ways to spend the taxpayers money, but the same could be said about most welfare spending and government operations in general; and this is nothing new.Not sure what this has to do with any economic argument.

Happy weekend.

I am not sure how your manufacturing argument counters my R+D argument. The area in red was in response to your comment about the US doing nothing in response to 9/11. The US attacking afghanastan was something. Iraq was just stupid.

 

[Widbil83]

Sounds about right.

Sheehan said the left anti war movement is being ignored by the democrats because they are "reverse racists" who are supporting Obama only because he is an African-American.

She said, "I think that there are some people on the so called left, who might say we have to circle our wagons around the first African American president, and to me that is racism in reverse because his policies are actually still the racist policies of empire."

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/10/01/cindy-sheehan-lets-face-it-some-liberals-support-obamas-wars-because-of-reverse-racism/