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Sandeman said:
I've said it before. FBG1 needs some sort of mission statement and a policy. Seems some of the decisions this morning were a bit hasty. I understand there may be good reasons for suspending/banning but I can't say from my (lowly) vantage point that we operate all that smoothly. Feels more like a start-up than IBM, which is fine but there comes a point where things need to be cleaner and clearer. Who are the leaders? What are the expectations? Who can attack what village? What are our obligations to check in before attacking? What's being "decent"? One star? Two stars at +10? Occasionally posting our attack "policy" is in a thread that has 280 pages, a policy that seems to shift around, is not a solution. Should be on page 1.

And every decision to suspend or ban has repercussions. Many of us are tied together, tightly or loosely. A decision to ban could have a chain reaction like it did this morning. Perhaps a note to the Clan on the inbox explaining the suspension, seeking input and having a deadline would be a better approach.

And let's not forget. #### happens in people's lives, even those that take this game super seriously and want to do well for the clan.
With the initial decision this was not a one time issue. The intention with the rest was to do a defacto probation, then things escalated from there.

I'm going to pen a formal apology to skinny. that part of this was completely my bad and I feel awful for it. the rest of it was collateral damage from the initial decision which was long overdue.
No need to feel awful about it. It is, after all, just a game. And to be fair my warring of late has been an abject failure. I'm going to take some time off from FBG1, build up my heroes and troops and hope to make a contribution later. My war attacks just aren't getting it done. I need to figure out a method that works for me.

Probably will head over to FBG2 (thanks for the invite).

Sorry for the pseudo drama.

 
Good thing we peer pressured princess to push the button.

:unsure:
She just wants the offensive upgrades. It will be awhile before she adds the xbows/max wiz towers. So, if the calculations are right, she shouldn't count too much towards the matchmaking.
I think the timing works out well with PB and jayrod going to th9 soon as the new pain train and hopefully Odin, Bucky and myself will be able to work on low TH9s as our offense improves.

 
I'm less than a month away from a 100% maxxed TH8.

I could be convinced to stay here for a bit.

I am hating being unable to 3 star anyone, though. I feel impotent in most wars right now. This last one, I took 2 swings in the 20's for zero stars. Yay, no loot bonus! At least it isn't too painful since we lost.
Exhibit A. Th8's really just have no shot. And to be quite frank, TH8 was boring as ####. Queen is a big deal. I wouldn't stay there once your BK is maxed.
Absolutely. I'm as maxed a TH8 right now as you can be (aside from 28 skull walls left and the little bombs). Everything else was maxed and the only reason I had waited to push the button was I wanted to get most of my walls done but you're right - with the shift in these wars, to TH10's and TH9's for the most part, I've felt useless over the past couple months.

With my TH9 underway and live in 7 days or so, I can't wait to be honest.

 
Quattro would normally declare Wed PM, but our war start time is extremely late at this point.

So we are going to push our (new) Wed PM declare time to Thurs PM/Afternoon. This will be a one time thing. This will also allow us to (hopefully) finalize what we are going to do with the Boog.

Then we will follow our normal schedule and get back on track:

Thurs PM

Sat PM

Mon PM

Wed PM

Sat PM

...etc.

 
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I'm closing in on parking TH9 development. One Tesla level, 2 AD with one level each. Then I can consider the three mortars wth one level each.

One dark barracks level to hounds is my only elixir upgrade left too.

Heroes at 15/13, walls coming along nicely.

Hardest part about trying to let your offense be stronger than your defense is being ok with an idle builder or two. But I will be leaving archer towers and cannons at max TH8 level for the foreseeable future.

Oddly enough, one builder on a defense only and both Sky and Darth are still not passing me in war ranks.

 
I'm less than a month away from a 100% maxxed TH8.

I could be convinced to stay here for a bit.

I am hating being unable to 3 star anyone, though. I feel impotent in most wars right now. This last one, I took 2 swings in the 20's for zero stars. Yay, no loot bonus! At least it isn't too painful since we lost.
Exhibit A. Th8's really just have no shot. And to be quite frank, TH8 was boring as ####. Queen is a big deal. I wouldn't stay there once your BK is maxed.
I agree with this. A clan doesn't need ton of TH8s, but having them around to fill war cc and stuff sure doesn't suck. The way I see it is they will end up being the new one cannons. I'll get shuke's wiz up to level 4 for no other reason than to feed myself some defensive units on occasion. And no need to do level 6 loons either, and level 2 hounds......

See where this goes...And see why some people are probably right that SC didn't think this thru?

 
I'm closing in on parking TH9 development. One Tesla level, 2 AD with one level each. Then I can consider the three mortars wth one level each.

One dark barracks level to hounds is my only elixir upgrade left too.

Heroes at 15/13, walls coming along nicely.

Hardest part about trying to let your offense be stronger than your defense is being ok with an idle builder or two. But I will be leaving archer towers and cannons at max TH8 level for the foreseeable future.

Oddly enough, one builder on a defense only and both Sky and Darth are still not passing me in war ranks.
I don't see a point to halting development (resources permitting). With two builders on heroes, that's enough of a halt. The problem occurs when 5 builders are focused on defenses and heroes are neglected.
 
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Make the move Jayrod. Th9 is fun.
I do want BK @ 10 (currently 8) and all troop upgrades done. I have 7 days left on Valk Lvl2 and all that is left is Healer 3 (5 days).

I'm thinking of starting the 10 day TH upgrade in about 5-10 days unless culd can convince me otherwise. I also have 2 little bombs and 65 or so more walls to get to skulls.

I should be pretty much 100% once the TH is finished upgrading.

 
Jayrod,

I played cleanup duty when I was approaching max TH8 before hitting the button (admittedly too soon). Still do it as I'm upgrading troops. Being a good attacker and able to take down a top TH8 base while being a TH8 base is pretty valuable to the logjam of TH9s we have.
I have never once three starred what I consider a maxxed TH8. If they have some weakness in their air defense, I'll get it, but outside of that, I've only gotten 2.
Never? Are you sure you're cut out for fbgs1?

 
Culd what is you're totally measured, reasonable reaction to this update regarding one cannons? Any change in their value?
For ClanXP I'm not sure. Is that the question?

Biggest value of shuke is you can send him to snipe th10 to get clanxp at nearly no risk or if there is a tricky th8 that can't be picked up he can smoke it.

I think the focus on getting one star on every base is something we haven't had to deal with before and will cause some degree of stress late in wars. Having shuke on hand will help this.

BTW this bolded is going to be seriously serious business at some points I think.

 
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Culd what is you're totally measured, reasonable reaction to this update regarding one cannons? Any change in their value?
For ClanXP I'm not sure. Is that the question?

Biggest value of shuke is you can send him to snipe th10 to get clanxp at nearly no risk or if there is a tricky th8 that can't be picked up he can smoke it.

I think the focus on getting one star on every base is something we haven't had to deal with before and will cause some degree of stress late in wars. Having shuke on hand will help this.

BTW this bolded is going to be seriously serious business at some points I think.
Yes, it was a question. You're saying that TH8's are more valuable now because of the donations, I was just wondering if there were any changes to one-cannon values. My brother has a one cannon TH7, he just dragon rushes every war. I'm not sure if he plays enough to want to push to an offense-maxed TH8 or not, but if he does stay at TH7, I'm wondering if anything in this patch makes it more/less important for him to start adding defense.

Seems like there's no change, though it'd be optimal for him to push to TH8.

 
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Jayrod,

I played cleanup duty when I was approaching max TH8 before hitting the button (admittedly too soon). Still do it as I'm upgrading troops. Being a good attacker and able to take down a top TH8 base while being a TH8 base is pretty valuable to the logjam of TH9s we have.
I have never once three starred what I consider a maxxed TH8. If they have some weakness in their air defense, I'll get it, but outside of that, I've only gotten 2.
Never? Are you sure you're cut out for fbgs1?
That question does keep me up at night.

 
Make the move Jayrod. Th9 is fun.
I do want BK @ 10 (currently 8) and all troop upgrades done. I have 7 days left on Valk Lvl2 and all that is left is Healer 3 (5 days).

I'm thinking of starting the 10 day TH upgrade in about 5-10 days unless culd can convince me otherwise. I also have 2 little bombs and 65 or so more walls to get to skulls.

I should be pretty much 100% once the TH is finished upgrading.
We're supposed to upgrade Valks? :oldunsure:
Everything, buck...everything. You can never tell which troop will be upgraded enough to become the new valuable troop.

I'm leaving nothing to chance. This IS FBG1 after all.

 
Culd what is you're totally measured, reasonable reaction to this update regarding one cannons? Any change in their value?
For ClanXP I'm not sure. Is that the question?

Biggest value of shuke is you can send him to snipe th10 to get clanxp at nearly no risk or if there is a tricky th8 that can't be picked up he can smoke it.

I think the focus on getting one star on every base is something we haven't had to deal with before and will cause some degree of stress late in wars. Having shuke on hand will help this.

BTW this bolded is going to be seriously serious business at some points I think.
Yes, it was a question. You're saying that TH8's are more valuable now because of the donations, I was just wondering if there were any changes to one-cannon values. My brother has a one cannon TH7, he just dragon rushes every war. I'm not sure if he plays enough to want to push to an offense-maxed TH8 or not, but if he does stay at TH7, I'm wondering if anything in this patch makes it more/less important for him to start adding defense.

Seems like there's no change, though it'd be optimal for him to push to TH8.
It's about the same or just a tiny bit up. I mean if shuke can snipe a th10 then really any th9 could by definition or even th8s. sky used to do the snipe like a champ.

 
It really is unfortunate that we can't use heroes on war offense when they are upgrading.

Think about it, for the next few months we will often be without 50% of our heroes, maybe more.

We might have lost this war regardless, but we were at a noticeable disadvantage when it came to sleeping heroes.
It's worth it still. Always be upgrading. If we lose a few wars now we will get them later.
Oh without question we need to keep upgrading.

I find it ironic though that we could be burned out before we ever stop upgrading and never actually war with our highest potential.
I've considered this. I'm not sure where the diminishing returns are. I just keep thinking someday they will let upgrading heroes in war. I might stop at 20/25 k/q and just roll with that till they finally let us use them all the time.

I'm quickly losing interest in farming. May pull back greg style soon and just pick up collectors in 500 range and war only.
Random idea: We plan out ahead a month where no one works on Heros and we see how much damage we can do in war. Maybe this is May? June? Some clans 'trophy push' we could call this more of a 'war push'. Wars during this time would be even more serious.

Separate idea for our current war strategy. TH10s with maxed camps can only attack other TH10s. How do we expect to get better against TH10 bases if we don't attack them with the pressure on? We would obviously take some lumps up front but in the end it should help us get better.

Just floating the ideas.

 
By the way if anyone knows any Max TH8 with intention of maxing everything and maybe just chilling there for like, a couple of years.... let me here from ya.
I may do that. What's up? My troops and spells are already all maxed. Just walls and a couple Tesla upgrades to go I think.
 
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Jayrod,

I played cleanup duty when I was approaching max TH8 before hitting the button (admittedly too soon). Still do it as I'm upgrading troops. Being a good attacker and able to take down a top TH8 base while being a TH8 base is pretty valuable to the logjam of TH9s we have.
I have never once three starred what I consider a maxxed TH8. If they have some weakness in their air defense, I'll get it, but outside of that, I've only gotten 2.
Never? Are you sure you're cut out for fbgs1?
That question does keep me up at night.
Promise me you'll attempt a GoHoWiz next war. I wouldn't steer a fellow TH8 wrong :hifive:

(but no refunds if you run out of time)

 
Fun fact: A level 30 queen using cloak can destroy a townhall 10 by herself without taking any damage.

I'm not sure where the upgrading goal is but 20/20 seems to be the point where we see guys automatically 2 star our th10s. Anything over that seems to smooth over deployment issues.

 
By the way if anyone knows any Max TH8 with intention of maxing everything and maybe just chilling there for like, a couple of years.... let me here from ya.
I'm about 50 skull walls from fully upgraded TH8 and just had a Mini-Falling out with Honda.

Problem is Im going to hit TH9 eventualy, you guys use clash caller (the dumbest thing about this game) and I'll want to kiss and make up eventualy.

 
By the way if anyone knows any Max TH8 with intention of maxing everything and maybe just chilling there for like, a couple of years.... let me here from ya.
I'm about 50 skull walls from fully upgraded TH8 and just had a Mini-Falling out with Honda.

Problem is Im going to hit TH9 eventualy, you guys use clash caller (the dumbest thing about this game) and I'll want to kiss and make up eventualy.
What is your problem with Clash Caller? I literally can't figure out what the downside could be

 
By the way if anyone knows any Max TH8 with intention of maxing everything and maybe just chilling there for like, a couple of years.... let me here from ya.
I'm about 50 skull walls from fully upgraded TH8 and just had a Mini-Falling out with Honda.Problem is Im going to hit TH9 eventualy, you guys use clash caller (the dumbest thing about this game) and I'll want to kiss and make up eventualy.
What is your problem with Clash Caller? I literally can't figure out what the downside could be
having to actually wade through 30 bases to choose one down
 
By the way if anyone knows any Max TH8 with intention of maxing everything and maybe just chilling there for like, a couple of years.... let me here from ya.
I'm about 50 skull walls from fully upgraded TH8 and just had a Mini-Falling out with Honda.Problem is Im going to hit TH9 eventualy, you guys use clash caller (the dumbest thing about this game) and I'll want to kiss and make up eventualy.
What is your problem with Clash Caller? I literally can't figure out what the downside could be
having to actually wade through 30 bases to choose one down
You do that anyway. Or you should be. All Clash Caller does it communicate your choice to the rest of the clan. It's an odd thing to have a problem with.

 
By the way if anyone knows any Max TH8 with intention of maxing everything and maybe just chilling there for like, a couple of years.... let me here from ya.
I'm about 50 skull walls from fully upgraded TH8 and just had a Mini-Falling out with Honda.Problem is Im going to hit TH9 eventualy, you guys use clash caller (the dumbest thing about this game) and I'll want to kiss and make up eventualy.
What is your problem with Clash Caller? I literally can't figure out what the downside could be
having to actually wade through 30 bases to choose one down
You do that anyway. Or you should be. All Clash Caller does it communicate your choice to the rest of the clan. It's an odd thing to have a problem with.
no, I dont. I dont have time for that. That is what culdeus is for
 
By the way if anyone knows any Max TH8 with intention of maxing everything and maybe just chilling there for like, a couple of years.... let me here from ya.
I'm about 50 skull walls from fully upgraded TH8 and just had a Mini-Falling out with Honda.Problem is Im going to hit TH9 eventualy, you guys use clash caller (the dumbest thing about this game) and I'll want to kiss and make up eventualy.
What is your problem with Clash Caller? I literally can't figure out what the downside could be
having to actually wade through 30 bases to choose one down
You do that anyway. Or you should be. All Clash Caller does it communicate your choice to the rest of the clan. It's an odd thing to have a problem with.
no, I dont. I dont have time for that. That is what culdeus is for
Oh, okay. Well if you didn't have a hand-holder, I think you'd appreciate it. Wading through 30 bases to pick one might be annoying until you wade through 30 bases, pick one, and have someone else attack it before you do.

 
By the way if anyone knows any Max TH8 with intention of maxing everything and maybe just chilling there for like, a couple of years.... let me here from ya.
I'm about 50 skull walls from fully upgraded TH8 and just had a Mini-Falling out with Honda.Problem is Im going to hit TH9 eventualy, you guys use clash caller (the dumbest thing about this game) and I'll want to kiss and make up eventualy.
What is your problem with Clash Caller? I literally can't figure out what the downside could be
having to actually wade through 30 bases to choose one down
You do that anyway. Or you should be. All Clash Caller does it communicate your choice to the rest of the clan. It's an odd thing to have a problem with.
no, I dont. I dont have time for that. That is what culdeus is for
Lol

 
By the way if anyone knows any Max TH8 with intention of maxing everything and maybe just chilling there for like, a couple of years.... let me here from ya.
I'm about 50 skull walls from fully upgraded TH8 and just had a Mini-Falling out with Honda.

Problem is Im going to hit TH9 eventualy, you guys use clash caller (the dumbest thing about this game) and I'll want to kiss and make up eventualy.
We don't really use it. It is mainly a way I take notes.

 
By the way if anyone knows any Max TH8 with intention of maxing everything and maybe just chilling there for like, a couple of years.... let me here from ya.
I'm about 50 skull walls from fully upgraded TH8 and just had a Mini-Falling out with Honda.

Problem is Im going to hit TH9 eventualy, you guys use clash caller (the dumbest thing about this game) and I'll want to kiss and make up eventualy.
We don't really use it. It is mainly a way I take notes.
if caller is why u left fbg3, fbg1 is not the place for you anyway. they take assignment to a whole new level with culdy and doc managing it all. it's a beautiful thing but not for faint of heart or the casual war-er. consider coming back, i missed the chatter before you left but did see the aftermath in game chat and no hard feelings left behind. we're not gonna stop using caller, but u can ask someone online to look it up or tag ur base for u. i do that when i'm online anyway since i play on a computer at nights. just call ur equal as default before each war, that's what i do. change it up if needed.

 
Some Theoretical Clan Level Analysis http://imgur.com/a/9TKEdvia @imgur

Taken from twitter
This is awesome.

One of the biggest takeways for Quattraboog is that we need to keep wars to 25 v 25 at least due to the better ROI. Meaning the gap in how long it takes you to level between 20 v 20 and 25 v 25 is much larger than the gain in 25 v 25 to 30 v 30.
This guy is making a giant leap about the thresholds. Keep that in mind

 
I'm still

Some Theoretical Clan Level Analysis http://imgur.com/a/9TKEdvia @imgur
Taken from twitter
This is awesome.

One of the biggest takeways for Quattraboog is that we need to keep wars to 25 v 25 at least due to the better ROI. Meaning the gap in how long it takes you to level between 20 v 20 and 25 v 25 is much larger than the gain in 25 v 25 to 30 v 30.
This guy is making a giant leap about the thresholds. Keep that in mind
I just reread that. I didn't get what he meant the first time, but I do now. That is a significant leap. Are the amounts of XP required for each level not public?

 
I'm still

Some Theoretical Clan Level Analysis http://imgur.com/a/9TKEdvia @imgur

Taken from twitter
This is awesome.

One of the biggest takeways for Quattraboog is that we need to keep wars to 25 v 25 at least due to the better ROI. Meaning the gap in how long it takes you to level between 20 v 20 and 25 v 25 is much larger than the gain in 25 v 25 to 30 v 30.
This guy is making a giant leap about the thresholds. Keep that in mind
I just reread that. I didn't get what he meant the first time, but I do now. That is a significant leap. Are the amounts of XP required for each level not public?
Not yet afaik

 
By the way if anyone knows any Max TH8 with intention of maxing everything and maybe just chilling there for like, a couple of years.... let me here from ya.
I'm about 50 skull walls from fully upgraded TH8 and just had a Mini-Falling out with Honda.

Problem is Im going to hit TH9 eventualy, you guys use clash caller (the dumbest thing about this game) and I'll want to kiss and make up eventualy.
You should come back to Honda. Our first two wars of the week don't use clash caller at all. It old school where you just call it in the chat.

 
You do that anyway. Or you should be. All Clash Caller does it communicate your choice to the rest of the clan. It's an odd thing to have a problem with.
Until you show up with a fully cooked drag army as the #14 on your team, and you ask who is taken and your told 2-50 is spoken for already or you can go for the 1 star cleanup on 3.

Its stupid. Wont change my opinion of it.

 
You do that anyway. Or you should be. All Clash Caller does it communicate your choice to the rest of the clan. It's an odd thing to have a problem with.
Until you show up with a fully cooked drag army as the #14 on your team, and you ask who is taken and your told 2-50 is spoken for already or you can go for the 1 star cleanup on 3.

Its stupid. Wont change my opinion of it.
I'll tell you what, you show up with a war ready army and I'll tell you what to attack. Deal?

 
You do that anyway. Or you should be. All Clash Caller does it communicate your choice to the rest of the clan. It's an odd thing to have a problem with.
Until you show up with a fully cooked drag army as the #14 on your team, and you ask who is taken and your told 2-50 is spoken for already or you can go for the 1 star cleanup on 3.

Its stupid. Wont change my opinion of it.
:lmao: 2-50 spoken for? Must be nice.If I'm late to the party I'll just sit back and play clean-up hitter. It's not usually a bad plan to see what everyone else has planned.

 
You do that anyway. Or you should be. All Clash Caller does it communicate your choice to the rest of the clan. It's an odd thing to have a problem with.
Until you show up with a fully cooked drag army as the #14 on your team, and you ask who is taken and your told 2-50 is spoken for already or you can go for the 1 star cleanup on 3.

Its stupid. Wont change my opinion of it.
I'll tell you what, you show up with a war ready army and I'll tell you what to attack. Deal?
I'll tell you what. We tried that already. I had to attack the 1 or go for a 1 star cleanup on the 3. And that was only after I was reprimanded for not using clash caller.

But lets be honest here.... Clash Caller was the tip of the iceberg. I left over Sir Frank and how that was handled. I can get over how we pick bases even if I'm not in favor of it.

 
Quattro guys who are on probation (you know who you are ;) )

I dont see the need to boot anyone anymore at Quattro...however, I will opt you out of the next war if you aren't following protocol, no questions asked. That way I can still cuss you the #### out during the war we win without your crappy attacks and listening skills.

Love,

The Czar

 
Seriously - enough with the Czar shtick.

Nice war Quattro. Well done start to finish (except my lavaloon disaster).

PlasmaDog and Iggy killed it this war

 
You do that anyway. Or you should be. All Clash Caller does it communicate your choice to the rest of the clan. It's an odd thing to have a problem with.
Until you show up with a fully cooked drag army as the #14 on your team, and you ask who is taken and your told 2-50 is spoken for already or you can go for the 1 star cleanup on 3.

Its stupid. Wont change my opinion of it.
I'll tell you what, you show up with a war ready army and I'll tell you what to attack. Deal?
I'll tell you what. We tried that already. I had to attack the 1 or go for a 1 star cleanup on the 3. And that was only after I was reprimanded for not using clash caller.

But lets be honest here.... Clash Caller was the tip of the iceberg. I left over Sir Frank and how that was handled. I can get over how we pick bases even if I'm not in favor of it.
What about Frank? Despite him never talking to us or ever asking for advice we have never done anything against him despite him going to th10 with th8 troops. The only thing that has been done was leaving him out of a war but that was his own doing due to too low of trophies. Yes, we've talked about his negative impact on war but haven't done anything. It would be a great benefit if he at least got skulls/hounds. Is he doing that? No idea as he never talked to us. He only left when u did, we didnt kick him.

 
By the way if anyone knows any Max TH8 with intention of maxing everything and maybe just chilling there for like, a couple of years.... let me here from ya.
I'm about 50 skull walls from fully upgraded TH8 and just had a Mini-Falling out with Honda.Problem is Im going to hit TH9 eventualy, you guys use clash caller (the dumbest thing about this game) and I'll want to kiss and make up eventualy.
What is your problem with Clash Caller? I literally can't figure out what the downside could be
having to actually wade through 30 bases to choose one down
You do that anyway. Or you should be. All Clash Caller does it communicate your choice to the rest of the clan. It's an odd thing to have a problem with.
no, I dont. I dont have time for that. That is what culdeus is for
Oh, okay. Well if you didn't have a hand-holder, I think you'd appreciate it. Wading through 30 bases to pick one might be annoying until you wade through 30 bases, pick one, and have someone else attack it before you do.
This x10
 

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