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[culdeus]

It's pretty clear walls don't matter. I think we know that. It's possible walls aren't even counted. You just have to look at max bases in the rankings to see it's sorted by hero level.

I'm throwing this down as the closest possible model:

75% cumulative gold spent on all defenses

15% cumulative DE spent on heroes

5% cumulative gold spent on walls

5% cumulative elixer spent on research

That doesn't factor DE for research, sue me. I don't know how they would fit that in, or if they care.

This model reasonably explains Shuke, the ABC AB experiments the last few days as well as the maxed out bases and mid-level base rankings. There are a few holes in this in the TH10 range. The Nugget guy isn't well modeled with the above vs. people below him, if the nugget guy doesn't put his base in let me know and i'll enter it. He's patient zero in this thing imo as is doc.

edit to add this is for all intents what reddit phoenix came up with short of a few tweaks.

 

[GroveDiesel]

The fact that nobody else has this posted on the internet somewhere yet means one of two things:

1) There really are just too many variables along with some sort of "secret sauce" component and it's impossible OR

2) We are officially the nerdiest place on the internet

 

[The Indestructible]

It's pretty clear walls don't matter. I think we know that. It's possible walls aren't even counted. You just have to look at max bases in the rankings to see it's sorted by hero level.

I'm throwing this down as the closest possible model:

75% cumulative gold spent on all defenses

15% cumulative DE spent on heroes

5% cumulative gold spent on walls

5% cumulative elixer spent on research

That doesn't factor DE for research, sue me. I don't know how they would fit that in, or if they care.

This model reasonably explains Shuke, the ABC AB experiments the last few days as well as the maxed out bases and mid-level base rankings. There are a few holes in this in the TH10 range. The Nugget guy isn't well modeled with the above vs. people below him, if the nugget guy doesn't put his base in let me know and i'll enter it. He's patient zero in this thing imo as is doc.

edit to add this is for all intents what reddit phoenix came up with short of a few tweaks.

I wonder if you could just compare everything by build time. As others have said, supercell probably factored in a unit's different capabilities (e.g., splash, air/ground, multi-target) when assigning build cost. Assuming they did the same thing with build time, you would have a common denominator for gold v elixir v DE upgrades.

 

[TenTimes]

Okay...I think I'm going to begin my march to saving for TH9. I don't have much else to upgrade except for walls and a few elixir pumps. How much DE do I need to save in order to get my AQ day 1? I might try to sneak in 1 more BK upgrade during the 10 days it takes to upgrade.

Bucky, seriously... Just google this stuff.

What gets unlocked at TH9?

 

[beer 30]

People confuse my ability at this game with my interest level. It's an easy mistake to make. I'm also interested in hot girls with yoga pants, it doesn't mean I'm banging them every night.

This should be a signature someplace, can not be emphasized enough.

 

[beer 30]

Okay...I think I'm going to begin my march to saving for TH9. I don't have much else to upgrade except for walls and a few elixir pumps. How much DE do I need to save in order to get my AQ day 1? I might try to sneak in 1 more BK upgrade during the 10 days it takes to upgrade.

Bucky, seriously... Just google this stuff.

What gets unlocked at TH9?

Who's on first?

 

[coyote5]

Okay...I think I'm going to begin my march to saving for TH9. I don't have much else to upgrade except for walls and a few elixir pumps. How much DE do I need to save in order to get my AQ day 1? I might try to sneak in 1 more BK upgrade during the 10 days it takes to upgrade.

Bucky, seriously... Just google this stuff.

What gets unlocked at TH9?

 

[igbomb]

Okay...I think I'm going to begin my march to saving for TH9. I don't have much else to upgrade except for walls and a few elixir pumps. How much DE do I need to save in order to get my AQ day 1? I might try to sneak in 1 more BK upgrade during the 10 days it takes to upgrade.

Bucky, seriously... Just google this stuff.

What gets unlocked at TH9?

lol

 

[SkyRattlers]

I have filled out the form.

 

[sartre]

And what about walls. They're a huge gold dump, why are they near meaningless to war ranking?

How many walls have to be demolished in an attack? Very few, if any at all.

With an air or hog attack, 3-stars can be achieved without smashing through a single segment.

Even a 3-star gowipe rarely needs more than half a dozen.

 

[culdeus]

And what about walls. They're a huge gold dump, why are they near meaningless to war ranking?

How many walls have to be demolished in an attack? Very few, if any at all.

With an air or hog attack, 3-stars can be achieved without smashing through a single segment.

Even a 3-star gowipe rarely needs more than half a dozen.

Walls really are for regular bases. When people hit you with barch and giants and misc. crap like that. Stops cheap troops from getting in your core. War raids usually come with jumps and hogs and flying pigs. Walls probably shouldn't really count at all for war. Maybe a tiebreaker only.

 

[thecatch]

And what about walls. They're a huge gold dump, why are they near meaningless to war ranking?

How many walls have to be demolished in an attack? Very few, if any at all.

With an air or hog attack, 3-stars can be achieved without smashing through a single segment.

Even a 3-star gowipe rarely needs more than half a dozen.

Walls really are for regular bases. When people hit you with barch and giants and misc. crap like that. Stops cheap troops from getting in your core. War raids usually come with jumps and hogs and flying pigs. Walls probably shouldn't really count at all for war. Maybe a tiebreaker only.

I will say walls are usually the difference between me getting a 50% 2 star with my gowipe versus an 80% 2 star. So there's that.

 

[Sputnikv8]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSyzbroHWKI

This is a great TH9 base. Some people should mimic it.

I did this evening.

Gonna make it active for Friday afternoon war.

Cool base doc! I added it to my portfolio. I love those videos.

"Angelo goes in this d-i-rection and hits that wizard ta'r but then it peters out..."

"doin ma'h best, to help you suck less"

LOL! Awesome.

 

[MindCrime]

ATTENTION FBGS 1

TIME FOR THE COC WAR RANKING SURVEY

Kindly Click this link and hit submit at the end. If other clans want to use it, let me know and I can run it again. But for this link, it needs to be FBG 1 only

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1CVA1tVpx29VmA9IWxXjPZuCcBZXoaYeEM3_e_XiheTk/viewform?usp=send_form

Remember, you can easily see all this info by going to your base editor and removing everything. Just dont click save or make sure your real base is saved to one of the slots

Done. Nice work!

 

[MindCrime]

One thing that should be pointed out that SMN zapped the CC on 10 because it was weak sauce CC troops. Brown wiz don't die to those zaps he put down. Just saying. If this hound thing spreads to the rest of the world quickly need to be aware of that.

That's also the reason I should be able to 3 star 14.

They are struggling with our CC troops. Alot. Except for that one guy that used golem healer to deal with them. Odd approach but it worked.

man I suck at these. I think having a queen is damn near a requirement.

It's absolutely necessary to get the AQ early. You came in on the opposite side here keeping her out of range from splash damage and the pups. Come in from her near side and she probably dies when your loons take out the AA, Wiz,and mortar there. Instead she just sat cozy in the middle picking off your troops.

People confuse my ability at this game with my interest level. It's an easy mistake to make. I'm also interested in hot girls with yoga pants, it doesn't mean I'm banging them every night.

 

[Beerguzzler]

Submitted. Nice job.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

TH7 guys: if you're drag rushing, go with 10 drags and 3 zaps. The only possible question should be hogs or skulls in the CC.

 

[EYLive]

TH7 guys: if you're drag rushing, go with 10 drags and 3 zaps. The only possible question should be hogs or skulls in the CC.

Or an extra dragon.

People seem to always wait too long to release the cc loons. They need to be in the mix as soon as the ADs lock onto a dragon.

 

[rascal]

Liking hog/dragon combo on mid lvl th8. I'm a low lvl th8.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Just made TH9 and not looking forward to redoing my base.

 

[beer 30]

Just made TH9 and not looking forward to redoing my base.

When you can, the base below is a beast. Redid mine to it last night, stoned two dragon attacks so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSyzbroHWKI

This is a great TH9 base. Some people should mimic it.

 

[EYLive]

By the way, a golem (lvl4 generously donated by aidan) in the defensive CC doesn't work so well.

Once it's lured out it can just be surrounded by archers and wizards. It'll one shot archers but it takes 3 swings to kill a wizard and by then it's almost dead from the other troops.

 

[Black Box]

The SeriousBus will be departing for war later tonight. All aboard!

(Search for Fbg4)

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

Just made TH9 and not looking forward to redoing my base.

When you can, the base below is a beast. Redid mine to it last night, stoned two dragon attacks so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSyzbroHWKI

This is a great TH9 base. Some people should mimic it.

Nice. I don't have an AQ or any xbows yet but that really looks good.

 

[culdeus]

If you start war match make and can't be there to see the clock hit 9 min then kill it early.

Repeat offenders need to have co title removed.

I'm making a list.

 

[EYLive]

Honda wins today.

Honda 91 stars on 63 attacks

Wolf Blood CoC 76 stars on 59 attacks

 

[PatsWillWin]

Honda wins today.

Honda 91 stars on 63 attacks

Wolf Blood CoC 76 stars on 59 attacks

They kinda sucked.

 

[John Bender]

FBGs4 will be looking for warrers.

 

[John Bender]

PS.

We need 2 more to make 25.

 

[Instinctive]

The clan fbgs is up against is hilarious. Every time I read their message I laugh. I made a throw-everything-randomly base for the war. It amuses me.

 

[culdeus]

These guys have made me angry. I have a game plan. Everyone will get a assignment for first and some second attacks. Will put up a caller link shortly. Other plans hashed out in chat. Stand by

 

[rascal]

What is up with boog?

 

[PatsWillWin]

Can I get Clifford's notes with what's going on in fbgs?

 

[AcerFC]

Can I get Clifford's notes with what's going on in fbgs?

we got matched with a 100 win clan that seemed way above our pay scale. Culdy pulled a chinese farming gambit asking to set out th on 1 and 2 and they will win. Dragon Nation replied with a Herm Edwards like rant about playing to win the game and we can either lose with honor or lose without but they will not give away free loot. The whole thing seems a bit ridiculous.

 

[thecatch]

ATTENTION FBGS 1

TIME FOR THE COC WAR RANKING SURVEY

Kindly Click this link and hit submit at the end. If other clans want to use it, let me know and I can run it again. But for this link, it needs to be FBG 1 only

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1CVA1tVpx29VmA9IWxXjPZuCcBZXoaYeEM3_e_XiheTk/viewform?usp=send_form

Remember, you can easily see all this info by going to your base editor and removing everything. Just dont click save or make sure your real base is saved to one of the slots

Done

 

[PatsWillWin]

Can I get Clifford's notes with what's going on in fbgs?

we got matched with a 100 win clan that seemed way above our pay scale. Culdy pulled a chinese farming gambit asking to set out th on 1 and 2 and they will win. Dragon Nation replied with a Herm Edwards like rant about playing to win the game and we can either lose with honor or lose without but they will not give away free loot.The whole thing seems a bit ridiculous.

I kinda like the cut of their jib, lol.

 

[=Smackdown=]

Can I get Clifford's notes with what's going on in fbgs?

we got matched with a 100 win clan that seemed way above our pay scale. Culdy pulled a chinese farming gambit asking to set out th on 1 and 2 and they will win. Dragon Nation replied with a Herm Edwards like rant about playing to win the game and we can either lose with honor or lose without but they will not give away free loot.The whole thing seems a bit ridiculous.

I kinda like the cut of their jib, lol.

"I would rather die on my feet . . . . then live on my knees !!!"

Fbgs in for a tough matchup . . . . start boiling tar . . . . Enemy at the gates.

 

[PIK95]

What is up with boog?

Bogart said no war just farming for a while. Some of us are hanging in Honda now.

 

[Jayrod]

ATTENTION FBGS 1

TIME FOR THE COC WAR RANKING SURVEY

Kindly Click this link and hit submit at the end. If other clans want to use it, let me know and I can run it again. But for this link, it needs to be FBG 1 only

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1CVA1tVpx29VmA9IWxXjPZuCcBZXoaYeEM3_e_XiheTk/viewform?usp=send_form

Remember, you can easily see all this info by going to your base editor and removing everything. Just dont click save or make sure your real base is saved to one of the slots

Done

 

[freeannyong]

Finished the survey as well

 

[culdeus]

For this war, not going into too many details here

Clashcaller code sent thru clan mail

You are in one of three categories. If you look at the assignments you can figure out what a "Strong TH10" is quite easily. Not going to go into detail on this here.

• Strong TH10 are given targets with other TH10 as backup to get to 2 or more stars. Will move backups as needed for second, but these are placed there as a placeholder for now.
• Non Strong TH10 or TH9 given first attack targets for 3 stars
• No assignments - There are open bases to call or you are welcome to scout early or go for 3 early on any bases already assigned. Place your name behind the assigned name and now you will go FIRST on that base with no pressure.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

What is up with boog?

Bogart said no war just farming for a while. Some of us are hanging in Honda now.

Time to merge Boog and Quattro? Quattro is struggling to get 20 guys for war.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

I'll do this tonight.

juliojones

done

 

[EYLive]

FBG3:Ellis Island

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

I now know why "PEKKA rush" is not a thing

 

[PatsWillWin]

I now know why "PEKKA rush" is not a thing

Yeah, but it looks really cool.

 

[PatsWillWin]

What is up with boog?

Bogart said no war just farming for a while. Some of us are hanging in Honda now.

Time to merge Boog and Quattro? Quattro is struggling to get 20 guys for war.

Little too late in the game to start making sense IMO. Let's start another clan instead.

 

[John Bender]

What is up with boog?

Bogart said no war just farming for a while. Some of us are hanging in Honda now.

Time to merge Boog and Quattro? Quattro is struggling to get 20 guys for war.

Little too late in the game to start making sense IMO. Let's start another clan instead.

Yeah

If you want to war twice a week, why not fbg4 instead of Honda?

 

[Beerguzzler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSAflWk3xYM&feature=youtu.be

5 golem attacks. Can't really take on those maxed bases without the heroes, but for the low/mid TH10's this seems interesting. Doesn't require high level freeze either.

 

[culdeus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSAflWk3xYM&feature=youtu.be

5 golem attacks. Can't really take on those maxed bases without the heroes, but for the low/mid TH10's this seems interesting. Doesn't require high level freeze either.

I'll keep this in mind when I get to max heroes in 2016