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Climbing Everest (1 Viewer)

I read a lot of mountain climbing books, as it fascinates me, even though I'd never do it. But one motto from one of the celebrated climbers (Ed Viesters, I think) has always struck me. He said, "Getting to the top is optional, getting down is mandatory". If more climbers followed that rule, these types of events would decline significantly.

 
MUST HAVE BIG PELT ON WALL TO COMPENSATE FOR MILLIMETER PETER!

http://www.nytimes.c...rc=me&ref=world
THREE PEOPLE DIE IN HORRIBLE TRAGEDY, MUST MOCK THEM TO COMPENSATE FOR OWN FEELINGS OF INADEQUACY!
You have a lot of learn about what constitutes a "horrible tragedy." It's May. On Everest. Death is as common as at a NYC hospital. These people are morons.
It's certainly the end of climbing season but it's still considered an acceptable time to climb. I think the folks who climbed Everest were well aware death was a risk. Iirc roughly 15% of folks who reach the summit die. But that number is skewed by the folks who attempt to reach the peak but fail. Really hard to say what the actual number is. I plan on climbing Everest at some point. If it makes me a Darwin nominee so be it.
 
MUST HAVE BIG PELT ON WALL TO COMPENSATE FOR MILLIMETER PETER!

http://www.nytimes.c...rc=me&ref=world
THREE PEOPLE DIE IN HORRIBLE TRAGEDY, MUST MOCK THEM TO COMPENSATE FOR OWN FEELINGS OF INADEQUACY!
You have a lot of learn about what constitutes a "horrible tragedy." It's May. On Everest. Death is as common as at a NYC hospital. These people are morons.
It's certainly the end of climbing season but it's still considered an acceptable time to climb. I think the folks who climbed Everest were well aware death was a risk. Iirc roughly 15% of folks who reach the summit die. But that number is skewed by the folks who attempt to reach the peak but fail. Really hard to say what the actual number is. I plan on climbing Everest at some point. If it makes me a Darwin nominee so be it.
Wear pink polka dot climbing pants. Of the 100 bodies up there, you'll stand out and forever be known as Mr. Pink Polka Dot Pants."If you don't make it to Mr. Pink Polka Dot Pants by 11:30, you need to turn around and head back down. Do you read me? Over."

 
MUST HAVE BIG PELT ON WALL TO COMPENSATE FOR MILLIMETER PETER!

http://www.nytimes.c...rc=me&ref=world
THREE PEOPLE DIE IN HORRIBLE TRAGEDY, MUST MOCK THEM TO COMPENSATE FOR OWN FEELINGS OF INADEQUACY!
You have a lot of learn about what constitutes a "horrible tragedy." It's May. On Everest. Death is as common as at a NYC hospital. These people are morons.
It's certainly the end of climbing season but it's still considered an acceptable time to climb. I think the folks who climbed Everest were well aware death was a risk. Iirc roughly 15% of folks who reach the summit die. But that number is skewed by the folks who attempt to reach the peak but fail. Really hard to say what the actual number is. I plan on climbing Everest at some point. If it makes me a Darwin nominee so be it.
Wear pink polka dot climbing pants. Of the 100 bodies up there, you'll stand out and forever be known as Mr. Pink Polka Dot Pants."If you don't make it to Mr. Pink Polka Dot Pants by 11:30, you need to turn around and head back down. Do you read me? Over."
That's actually a pretty awesome idea.
 
MUST HAVE BIG PELT ON WALL TO COMPENSATE FOR MILLIMETER PETER!

http://www.nytimes.c...rc=me&ref=world
THREE PEOPLE DIE IN HORRIBLE TRAGEDY, MUST MOCK THEM TO COMPENSATE FOR OWN FEELINGS OF INADEQUACY!
You have a lot of learn about what constitutes a "horrible tragedy." It's May. On Everest. Death is as common as at a NYC hospital. These people are morons.
It's certainly the end of climbing season but it's still considered an acceptable time to climb. I think the folks who climbed Everest were well aware death was a risk. Iirc roughly 15% of folks who reach the summit die. But that number is skewed by the folks who attempt to reach the peak but fail. Really hard to say what the actual number is. I plan on climbing Everest at some point. If it makes me a Darwin nominee so be it.
Wear pink polka dot climbing pants. Of the 100 bodies up there, you'll stand out and forever be known as Mr. Pink Polka Dot Pants."If you don't make it to Mr. Pink Polka Dot Pants by 11:30, you need to turn around and head back down. Do you read me? Over."
:lmao:
 
MUST HAVE BIG PELT ON WALL TO COMPENSATE FOR MILLIMETER PETER!

http://www.nytimes.c...rc=me&ref=world
THREE PEOPLE DIE IN HORRIBLE TRAGEDY, MUST MOCK THEM TO COMPENSATE FOR OWN FEELINGS OF INADEQUACY!
You have a lot of learn about what constitutes a "horrible tragedy." It's May. On Everest. Death is as common as at a NYC hospital. These people are morons.
It's certainly the end of climbing season but it's still considered an acceptable time to climb. I think the folks who climbed Everest were well aware death was a risk. Iirc roughly 15% of folks who reach the summit die. But that number is skewed by the folks who attempt to reach the peak but fail. Really hard to say what the actual number is. I plan on climbing Everest at some point. If it makes me a Darwin nominee so be it.
It's the heart of climbing season, which is why people are having to sit around and wait their turns to advance at certain spots on the routes. It's bad enough for westerners and people from lower altitudes who are fit for it, but many of the people have no business whatsoever climbing to 25,000ft, let alone 28,000. It's absurd. It is Darwin Award stuff. Some of the Sherpas must look at these people coming over there and place bets on who is going to die.
 
MUST HAVE BIG PELT ON WALL TO COMPENSATE FOR MILLIMETER PETER!

http://www.nytimes.c...rc=me&ref=world
THREE PEOPLE DIE IN HORRIBLE TRAGEDY, MUST MOCK THEM TO COMPENSATE FOR OWN FEELINGS OF INADEQUACY!
You have a lot of learn about what constitutes a "horrible tragedy." It's May. On Everest. Death is as common as at a NYC hospital. These people are morons.
It's certainly the end of climbing season but it's still considered an acceptable time to climb. I think the folks who climbed Everest were well aware death was a risk. Iirc roughly 15% of folks who reach the summit die. But that number is skewed by the folks who attempt to reach the peak but fail. Really hard to say what the actual number is. I plan on climbing Everest at some point. If it makes me a Darwin nominee so be it.
Wear pink polka dot climbing pants. Of the 100 bodies up there, you'll stand out and forever be known as Mr. Pink Polka Dot Pants."If you don't make it to Mr. Pink Polka Dot Pants by 11:30, you need to turn around and head back down. Do you read me? Over."
That's actually a pretty awesome idea.
I see what you did there.
 
MUST HAVE BIG PELT ON WALL TO COMPENSATE FOR MILLIMETER PETER!

http://www.nytimes.c...rc=me&ref=world
THREE PEOPLE DIE IN HORRIBLE TRAGEDY, MUST MOCK THEM TO COMPENSATE FOR OWN FEELINGS OF INADEQUACY!
You have a lot of learn about what constitutes a "horrible tragedy." It's May. On Everest. Death is as common as at a NYC hospital. These people are morons.
It's certainly the end of climbing season but it's still considered an acceptable time to climb. I think the folks who climbed Everest were well aware death was a risk. Iirc roughly 15% of folks who reach the summit die. But that number is skewed by the folks who attempt to reach the peak but fail. Really hard to say what the actual number is. I plan on climbing Everest at some point. If it makes me a Darwin nominee so be it.
It's the heart of climbing season, which is why people are having to sit around and wait their turns to advance at certain spots on the routes. It's bad enough for westerners and people from lower altitudes who are fit for it, but many of the people have no business whatsoever climbing to 25,000ft, let alone 28,000. It's absurd. It is Darwin Award stuff. Some of the Sherpas must look at these people coming over there and place bets on who is going to die.
Early June is considered the end of climbing season. I won't nitpick over whether it's the end of the season or in the heart or it, but it's close enough to argue either way. I don't know what kind of shape the foreigners were in. Many of the deaths do seem to stem from folks who are either in poor physical condition and/or hire a cheap guide. Everest isn't the place to pinch pennies. But I didn't see any mention of that in the article. The only alarming thing I saw in the article was folks beginning the ascent in the afternoon. That's really dangerous but it didn't specify if the folks who died were in that party. Perhaps I missed it. Sometimes deaths happen no matter what shape you're in or what company you use. Seems like a few assumptions are being made by folks.
 
Doesn't it cost like $75,000 to be able to climg Everest now? It's amazing to me how commercial and touristy this has become. Bunch of lemmings if you ask me. Rich lemmings, but lemmings nonetheless.

 
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MUST HAVE BIG PELT ON WALL TO COMPENSATE FOR MILLIMETER PETER!

http://www.nytimes.c...rc=me&ref=world
THREE PEOPLE DIE IN HORRIBLE TRAGEDY, MUST MOCK THEM TO COMPENSATE FOR OWN FEELINGS OF INADEQUACY!
You have a lot of learn about what constitutes a "horrible tragedy." It's May. On Everest. Death is as common as at a NYC hospital. These people are morons.
It's certainly the end of climbing season but it's still considered an acceptable time to climb. I think the folks who climbed Everest were well aware death was a risk. Iirc roughly 15% of folks who reach the summit die. But that number is skewed by the folks who attempt to reach the peak but fail. Really hard to say what the actual number is. I plan on climbing Everest at some point. If it makes me a Darwin nominee so be it.
It's the heart of climbing season, which is why people are having to sit around and wait their turns to advance at certain spots on the routes. It's bad enough for westerners and people from lower altitudes who are fit for it, but many of the people have no business whatsoever climbing to 25,000ft, let alone 28,000. It's absurd. It is Darwin Award stuff. Some of the Sherpas must look at these people coming over there and place bets on who is going to die.
Early June is considered the end of climbing season. I won't nitpick over whether it's the end of the season or in the heart or it, but it's close enough to argue either way. I don't know what kind of shape the foreigners were in. Many of the deaths do seem to stem from folks who are either in poor physical condition and/or hire a cheap guide. Everest isn't the place to pinch pennies. But I didn't see any mention of that in the article. The only alarming thing I saw in the article was folks beginning the ascent in the afternoon. That's really dangerous but it didn't specify if the folks who died were in that party. Perhaps I missed it. Sometimes deaths happen no matter what shape you're in or what company you use. Seems like a few assumptions are being made by folks.
I wasn't arguing about the season. I'm no expert on Everest or anything, I just know that most climbs occur in May every year and that this season started late. I'm just a recreational climber who has done some in the Rockies and Sierra, but the whole Everest thing has always been annoying to me. It doesn't help that both people I've met who have done it are jerkoffs. And the only assumption being made by me is that these people summitted or set out to summit Everest.
 
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Early June is considered the end of climbing season. I won't nitpick over whether it's the end of the season or in the heart or it, but it's close enough to argue either way. I don't know what kind of shape the foreigners were in. Many of the deaths do seem to stem from folks who are either in poor physical condition and/or hire a cheap guide. Everest isn't the place to pinch pennies. But I didn't see any mention of that in the article. The only alarming thing I saw in the article was folks beginning the ascent in the afternoon. That's really dangerous but it didn't specify if the folks who died were in that party. Perhaps I missed it. Sometimes deaths happen no matter what shape you're in or what company you use. Seems like a few assumptions are being made by folks.
I wasn't arguing about the season. I'm no expert on Everest or anything, I just know that most climbs occur in May every year and that this season started late. I'm just a recreational climber who has done some in the Rockies and Sierra, but the whole Everest thing has always been annoying to me. It doesn't help that both people I've met who have done it are jerkoffs. And the only assumption being made by me is that these people summitted or set out to summit Everest.
My take was that the optimal summiting period was delayed two weeks because of weather. This particular summit was still during peak season, but it was near the tail end. Peak climbing season ends May 31st, at least according to the article. And one of the dead climbers died from cerebral edema. Presumably he expended all of his energy on the climb and suffered the edema on the way down. It's very difficult to recover from that at 29,000 ft.
 
MUST HAVE BIG PELT ON WALL TO COMPENSATE FOR MILLIMETER PETER!

http://www.nytimes.c...rc=me&ref=world
THREE PEOPLE DIE IN HORRIBLE TRAGEDY, MUST MOCK THEM TO COMPENSATE FOR OWN FEELINGS OF INADEQUACY!
You have a lot of learn about what constitutes a "horrible tragedy." It's May. On Everest. Death is as common as at a NYC hospital. These people are morons.
It's certainly the end of climbing season but it's still considered an acceptable time to climb. I think the folks who climbed Everest were well aware death was a risk. Iirc roughly 15% of folks who reach the summit die. But that number is skewed by the folks who attempt to reach the peak but fail. Really hard to say what the actual number is. I plan on climbing Everest at some point. If it makes me a Darwin nominee so be it.
Wear pink polka dot climbing pants. Of the 100 bodies up there, you'll stand out and forever be known as Mr. Pink Polka Dot Pants."If you don't make it to Mr. Pink Polka Dot Pants by 11:30, you need to turn around and head back down. Do you read me? Over."
:lmao:
Hey! Thats not funny! :rant: :excited: :lmao: :lmao:

 
Yes, of course, because if you're lucky enough to survive Everest, the only logical thing to do is climb K2. Does your cousin have a family?

 
Doesn't it cost like $75,000 to be able to climg Everest now? It's amazing to me how commercial and touristy this has become. Bunch of lemmings if you ask me. Rich lemmings, but lemmings nonetheless.
Yeah it's insane. It can easily run $75,000. Not uncommon to hear of someone blowing 6 figures. You and Apple Jack are right - it's heavily commercialized and jerkoff rich folks who have no business climbing a mountain try paying their way to the top. Even worse is when you hear of someone going the 'cheap' route ($30,000-ish). And stories of Everest being someone's first major trek are entirely too common. I don't have a lot of sympathy for those folks if they die out there.
 
I'd love to be able to say I've climbed Everest, but just trying to take a crap when you're that dehydrated is a deal breaker for me.

 
It's the heart of climbing season, which is why people are having to sit around and wait their turns to advance at certain spots on the routes. It's bad enough for westerners and people from lower altitudes who are fit for it, but many of the people have no business whatsoever climbing to 25,000ft, let alone 28,000. It's absurd. It is Darwin Award stuff. Some of the Sherpas must look at these people coming over there and place bets on who is going to die.
I read about this last week when it happened, there are like 300 people waiting around in various base camps for a window of opportunity to scale the mountain. Personally I think they are all nuts but whatever floats your bhote.
 
So apparently there are about 60 people a day getting to the top of everest during the high season. That includes all the guides and tourists and whatever. On the way up instead of climbing the mountain you are basically climbing on a trail of frozen human excrement encased in snow and ice and flanked at all times by the 15 or so people a year that die on the way up or down.

Sounds awesome.

 
By the way, my cousin climbed Everest last year. And he raised over $150K for special needs children.
Wow, very cool. Any idea how much the trip cost him? When is he planning on taking K2? Which route did he take? How old is your cousin? Married? Can't imagine his wife was wild about him spending a year in an oxygen chamber.
I'm sure it cost him a pretty penny. He not only had the actual cost of getting up there, but the additional cost of spending a month in the area acclimating to the altitude. We have to be talking close to $80K, but that's just a guess. The K2 climb should be happening very soon. Hell, it might be happening now. He's late-40s, married with two kids (both in their late teens). His wife is awesome. Gabriel provides a very nice lifestyle for his family, and I've always had the impression they understand his need to push himself. They're also very religious and active in the Keshet charity, so that probably plays a part in their faith that he'll be OK. He's on a mission from god.
 
By the way, my cousin climbed Everest last year. And he raised over $150K for special needs children.
Wow, very cool. Any idea how much the trip cost him? When is he planning on taking K2? Which route did he take? How old is your cousin? Married? Can't imagine his wife was wild about him spending a year in an oxygen chamber.
I'm sure it cost him a pretty penny. He not only had the actual cost of getting up there, but the additional cost of spending a month in the area acclimating to the altitude. We have to be talking close to $80K, but that's just a guess. The K2 climb should be happening very soon. Hell, it might be happening now. He's late-40s, married with two kids (both in their late teens). His wife is awesome. Gabriel provides a very nice lifestyle for his family, and I've always had the impression they understand his need to push himself. They're also very religious and active in the Keshet charity, so that probably plays a part in their faith that he'll be OK. He's on a mission from god.
From what I've read, K2 is significantly more difficult to climb than Everest, and there have been less than 75 people total who have done it.
 
By the way, my cousin climbed Everest last year. And he raised over $150K for special needs children.
Wow, very cool. Any idea how much the trip cost him? When is he planning on taking K2? Which route did he take? How old is your cousin? Married? Can't imagine his wife was wild about him spending a year in an oxygen chamber.
I'm sure it cost him a pretty penny. He not only had the actual cost of getting up there, but the additional cost of spending a month in the area acclimating to the altitude. We have to be talking close to $80K, but that's just a guess. The K2 climb should be happening very soon. Hell, it might be happening now. He's late-40s, married with two kids (both in their late teens). His wife is awesome. Gabriel provides a very nice lifestyle for his family, and I've always had the impression they understand his need to push himself. They're also very religious and active in the Keshet charity, so that probably plays a part in their faith that he'll be OK. He's on a mission from god.
From what I've read, K2 is significantly more difficult to climb than Everest, and there have been less than 75 people total who have done it.
I think the number is closer to like 600 now. Kill rate is about 25% though.
 
I would love to climb Everest. I should start a FBG fundraiser for myself. I will bring a Black Eyed Joe sticker up there and take a picture of it.

Not sure if my sinus issues will allow me such an adventure though. Stupid nose.

 
On the way up instead of climbing the mountain you are basically climbing on a trail of frozen human excrement encased in snow and ice and flanked at all times by the 15 or so people a year that die on the way up or down.
Sounds like my last visit to the Shark Pool
 
I would love to climb Everest. I should start a FBG fundraiser for myself. I will bring a Black Eyed Joe sticker up there and take a picture of it. Not sure if my sinus issues will allow me such an adventure though. Stupid nose.
Yep. Your sinus issues are the only thing holding you back.
 
DUDE, I climbed Grandfather Mountain in sixth grade like it was nothing. My friend's dad said I was going to be a great mountaineer. Bring on Everest.

 
I would love to climb Everest. I should start a FBG fundraiser for myself. I will bring a Black Eyed Joe sticker up there and take a picture of it. Not sure if my sinus issues will allow me such an adventure though. Stupid nose.
Yep. Your sinus issues are the only thing holding you back.
Nope. I plan on having surgery to clear my deviated septum, clear the polyps out of my nose and begin the journey up the mountain. I plan do have myself ready to go by age 40.
 
Doesn't it cost like $75,000 to be able to climg Everest now? It's amazing to me how commercial and touristy this has become. Bunch of lemmings if you ask me. Rich lemmings, but lemmings nonetheless.
Yeah it's insane. It can easily run $75,000. Not uncommon to hear of someone blowing 6 figures. You and Apple Jack are right - it's heavily commercialized and jerkoff rich folks who have no business climbing a mountain try paying their way to the top. Even worse is when you hear of someone going the 'cheap' route ($30,000-ish). And stories of Everest being someone's first major trek are entirely too common. I don't have a lot of sympathy for those folks if they die out there.
This source of tension between the rich folks and the hardcore climbers would make for a great movie. Oh wait, no it wouldn't.
 
Traffic jam to reach the summit. That is insane.

And Daily Mail, Everest is only 29,000 feet high
This right here, plus the ever increasing number of novice climbers, are the biggest problems facing Mt. Everest climbers today. They are handing out too many climbing permits for the sake of the almighty dollar and ignoring the dangers that are caused by long delays in the death zone.(altitudes higher than 26,000 ft). It also seems a slap in the face of experienced climbers to allow novice climbers on the mountain during this short window of a climbing season to summit Everest.

I think they should make a blockbuster movie about Everest that uses the documentary "Into thin Air" and "Everest, beyond the limit", and other powerful stories about that mountain. I don't think there has been a realistic, good movie about Everest that isn't a documentary. Perhaps include the story about that Toronto women who died on Everest http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2012/05/23/save_me_toronto_woman_who_died_on_mount_everest.html who's final words were "Save "Me". I believe there are some powerful stories that could be told in a blockbuster type of movie. Stories such as the 1996 tragedy with "Green Boots", the Shriya Shah-Klorfine story, the George Mallory story, and of course the famous Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay story of the being the first to climb Everest. I know there have been several good documentaries about Everest, but I don't recall any good movies on the subject.

 
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Should make a reality TV show-- Stars Climb to the Stars

I nominate Justin Bieber and Keith Olbermann as contestants

 

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