Clinton Portis (1 Viewer)

[Gatorman]

Looking at portis numbers last year, why should we expect a decline in ranking? Are those ranked ahead of him expected to be that much better, or do we expect him to be that much worse? He is going to be a workhorse back again, and was no worse than 5th as a RB, even in PPR leagues, so why is he ranked as RB #8 behind guys like Addai, Jackson, Gore, and Barber, some who were no where near his production last year...

(I can see the arguement for ADP going before him, but Barber?)

he should be about RB 5 behind LT, ADP, Westbrook, and Addai (while Addai finished behind him last year, addai's numbers were close enough if you want a player from Indy)

 

[aldelgreco]

Looking at portis numbers last year, why should we expect a decline in ranking? Are those ranked ahead of him expected to be that much better, or do we expect him to be that much worse? He is going to be a workhorse back again, and was no worse than 5th as a RB, even in PPR leagues, so why is he ranked as RB #8 behind guys like Addai, Jackson, Gore, and Barber, some who were no where near his production last year...(I can see the arguement for ADP going before him, but Barber?)he should be about RB 5 behind LT, ADP, Westbrook, and Addai (while Addai finished behind him last year, addai's numbers were close enough if you want a player from Indy)

He should be RB7, IMO, After Barber III at 6.He has been nothing but a model of consistency while healthy and Campbell can only improve which will help with keeping as many people from keying on Portis in the box. How someone could draft Gore ahead of him is undeniably ridiculous as far as I am concerned.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

At this point I'd take him over Jackson or Gore because SF and Stl will both be a mess.

I'd probably take him over Barber because he's the workhorse and I'd consider him over Addai.

he's my number 4 currently...

 

[shredhead]

At this point I'd take him over Jackson or Gore because SF and Stl will both be a mess. I'd probably take him over Barber because he's the workhorse and I'd consider him over Addai.he's my number 4 currently...

Got him at 10 last night after Gore, SJax, and MBIII

 

[Banger]

Looking at portis numbers last year, why should we expect a decline in ranking? Are those ranked ahead of him expected to be that much better, or do we expect him to be that much worse? He is going to be a workhorse back again, and was no worse than 5th as a RB, even in PPR leagues, so why is he ranked as RB #8 behind guys like Addai, Jackson, Gore, and Barber, some who were no where near his production last year...(I can see the arguement for ADP going before him, but Barber?)he should be about RB 5 behind LT, ADP, Westbrook, and Addai (while Addai finished behind him last year, addai's numbers were close enough if you want a player from Indy)

agree completely.

 

[bostonfred]

I'm a Portis owner in virtually every league, and the only thing I don't like about him is that I don't think he will be the #1 RB this year. I think he will likely be top ten, but I don't think he has a great shot at being RB1. Peterson and LT have that. Westbrook and Addai sort of do, too. I can understand the case for Barber as RB1 overall. I think Portis is more sure to be in the top 5, and more sure to be in the top 10, so he's a safer pick, but with a slightly lower upside. I'd be thrilled to pair Portis up with one of the potential studs in a dynasty or keeper league, but if you take him in a redraft, you're going to need to hit on a later pick to catch up to the guy who has that big blowup year.

 

[red]

i think i'm in the minority here when it comes to portis...i'm just not that high on him this year. call it a gut feeling. his number were good and are consistent year in and year out (i believe no finishes outside the top ten when healthy for his career), but he was painful to watch last year. no long runs (i don't have the stat handy, but i believe he rarely had runs over 20 yards), his ypc were low and, i may be biased, but it seemed to me that he struggled at the goalline. he got his TDs, but could've been more....i dunno...i just have a bad feeling that he'll underproduce his draft spot. safe pick, but not much upside IMHO. LJ, for example, similar situation, risky pick, but a lot more upside.

 

[Kleck]

Agree with Gatorman here. Portis is a solid pick in the mid-to-late 1st, and I'd take him ahead of a few guys with higher ADPs.

Portis is currently my #4 ranked RB, which puts him in a very tight group/tier with Addai, Westbrook and Jackson (less than 1ppg difference amongst this group). I don't see the new WCO as a negative for him, and expect slightly better numbers than what he had last year.

 

[shredhead]

i think i'm in the minority here when it comes to portis...i'm just not that high on him this year. call it a gut feeling. his number were good and are consistent year in and year out (i believe no finishes outside the top ten when healthy for his career), but he was painful to watch last year. no long runs (i don't have the stat handy, but i believe he rarely had runs over 20 yards), his ypc were low and, i may be biased, but it seemed to me that he struggled at the goalline. he got his TDs, but could've been more....i dunno...i just have a bad feeling that he'll underproduce his draft spot. safe pick, but not much upside IMHO. LJ, for example, similar situation, risky pick, but a lot more upside.

Soooo, what would you do in the first round if given the option of Portis or LJ? I personally took Portis in my draft last night. I like the safer pick with my first rounder. As a matter of fact, I would take Lynch over LJ too. I didn't even consider LJ when I drafted late first round. I'm not nit pickin, I'm just curious as to whether you'd pull the trigger of LJ over Portis in a real draft situation.

 

[red]

i think i'm in the minority here when it comes to portis...i'm just not that high on him this year. call it a gut feeling. his number were good and are consistent year in and year out (i believe no finishes outside the top ten when healthy for his career), but he was painful to watch last year. no long runs (i don't have the stat handy, but i believe he rarely had runs over 20 yards), his ypc were low and, i may be biased, but it seemed to me that he struggled at the goalline. he got his TDs, but could've been more....i dunno...i just have a bad feeling that he'll underproduce his draft spot. safe pick, but not much upside IMHO. LJ, for example, similar situation, risky pick, but a lot more upside.

Soooo, what would you do in the first round if given the option of Portis or LJ? I personally took Portis in my draft last night. I like the safer pick with my first rounder. As a matter of fact, I would take Lynch over LJ too. I didn't even consider LJ when I drafted late first round. I'm not nit pickin, I'm just curious as to whether you'd pull the trigger of LJ over Portis in a real draft situation.

fair question. i see the top RBs like this:LTADPWestyAddaiMB3CP = LJSjax (he's been dropping with the holdout and OL injuries)obviously, i would much rather go with MB3 or addai if they fell to me, but realistically i'm looking at CP vs LJ (brady, moss will not be an option). today, i'm leaning towards LJ. i've liked what i've seen of him in preseason; i think their OL is improved. croyle, bowe and tony g are decent enough to take pressure off the running game. i think he's running to prove something after his injury and poor season last year. tomorrow, i might feel differently.

 

[jurb26]

Portis is underrated simply because not nearly enough people understand the magnitude of how beat up the Wash Oline was last year. It was really something of epic proportions how many injuries they went through. Hence, Portis did nothing flashy last year. People in FF love flash. Portis is a steal at the end of the 1st round IMO. Plugging him together with a guy like LJ or a 2nd tier WR (only Moss is 1st tier) and you can be off to a fantastic start to any team.

 

[red]

Portis is underrated simply because not nearly enough people understand the magnitude of how beat up the Wash Oline was last year. It was really something of epic proportions how many injuries they went through. Hence, Portis did nothing flashy last year. People in FF love flash. Portis is a steal at the end of the 1st round IMO. Plugging him together with a guy like LJ or a 2nd tier WR (only Moss is 1st tier) and you can be off to a fantastic start to any team.

can you elaborate on this. i don't know the wash oline that well. who was injured and who is healthy now? etc. this would make me rethink my position, because i am looking for data to really want to like portis this year and overcome my gut feeling. TIA

 

[jurb26]

Portis is underrated simply because not nearly enough people understand the magnitude of how beat up the Wash Oline was last year. It was really something of epic proportions how many injuries they went through. Hence, Portis did nothing flashy last year. People in FF love flash. Portis is a steal at the end of the 1st round IMO. Plugging him together with a guy like LJ or a 2nd tier WR (only Moss is 1st tier) and you can be off to a fantastic start to any team.

can you elaborate on this. i don't know the wash oline that well. who was injured and who is healthy now? etc. this would make me rethink my position, because i am looking for data to really want to like portis this year and overcome my gut feeling. TIA

I know it was covered on here before (spotlight thread maybe?). Long story short they lost the entire right side of the line (which includes the teams best overall lineman Jansen) for basically the entire season. On top of that they lost the guys who filled in for them at various parts of the year as well and were stuck playing guys most teams would have on the practice squad.

 

[LHUCKS]

He seems to have a ceiling...not a lot of upside to move him up the rankings.

 

[I Am Rick James]

I'm a Portis owner in virtually every league, and the only thing I don't like about him is that I don't think he will be the #1 RB this year. I think he will likely be top ten, but I don't think he has a great shot at being RB1. Peterson and LT have that. Westbrook and Addai sort of do, too. I can understand the case for Barber as RB1 overall. I think Portis is more sure to be in the top 5, and more sure to be in the top 10, so he's a safer pick, but with a slightly lower upside. I'd be thrilled to pair Portis up with one of the potential studs in a dynasty or keeper league, but if you take him in a redraft, you're going to need to hit on a later pick to catch up to the guy who has that big blowup year.

This is a good posting with one exception, Addai has no chance of finishing RB1. He is on a pass first team and isn't the first option like Westy. He is still a good, safe pic, but his ceiling is even lower than Portis's.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

he should be about RB 5 behind LT, ADP, Westbrook, and Addai (while Addai finished behind him last year, addai's numbers were close enough if you want a player from Indy)

How do you go about ranking guys like S. Jackson who was injured for part of the season last year. To me, the only way S. Jackson doesn't finish ahead of Clinton Portis in any kind of scoring league is: S. Jackson doesn't play some games because of holdout or S Jackson gets hurt.I agree with you that Portis appears to be underated and will be the workhorse again this year and unless Barber ends up with 15 Td's, it's hard for me justify ranking Barber over Portis with Felix Jones in the mix.

 

[North]

Looking at portis numbers last year, why should we expect a decline in ranking? Are those ranked ahead of him expected to be that much better, or do we expect him to be that much worse? He is going to be a workhorse back again, and was no worse than 5th as a RB, even in PPR leagues, so why is he ranked as RB #8 behind guys like Addai, Jackson, Gore, and Barber, some who were no where near his production last year...(I can see the arguement for ADP going before him, but Barber?)he should be about RB 5 behind LT, ADP, Westbrook, and Addai (while Addai finished behind him last year, addai's numbers were close enough if you want a player from Indy)

I have him at #6 right there with MBIII but behind SJAX, LT, ADP, BW and Addai.I think he will have a lot of REC. this year and his value could go even higher if the injury to Betts is serious.Just look at my sig.!!

 

[crowe1130]

Looking at portis numbers last year, why should we expect a decline in ranking? he should be about RB 5 behind LT, ADP, Westbrook, and Addai

That's my top 5 too, in order. I consider Portis to be the safest first rounder after those 4.

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

I don't see how anyone can rank Barber ahead of Portis really. Portis has no competition whatsoever, it's his show and unlike last year he starts the season with a healthy offensive line. Barring injury (as is the case with any player) his numbers can really only go up, especially the yards. Barber on the other hand, while being on a great offense, has to deal with Felix Jones, IMO a much bigger threat to take carries away than Betts. Dallas didn't spend the 22nd overall pick on a change of pace back, they're gonna have to get Felix the ball in order to warrant all that money.

LT

ADP

Westbrook

Addai

Portis

Gore

Lynch

Barber

Lewis

Johnson

 

[North]

I don't see how anyone can rank Barber ahead of Portis really. Portis has no competition whatsoever, it's his show and unlike last year he starts the season with a healthy offensive line. Barring injury (as is the case with any player) his numbers can really only go up, especially the yards. Barber on the other hand, while being on a great offense, has to deal with Felix Jones, IMO a much bigger threat to take carries away than Betts. Dallas didn't spend the 22nd overall pick on a change of pace back, they're gonna have to get Felix the ball in order to warrant all that money.

LT

ADP

Westbrook

Addai

Portis

Gore

Lynch

Barber

Lewis

Johnson

Don't forget that Betts had over 7 touches per game last year and is perfectly capable of giving Portis a breather. Under Gibbs Portis was used like a punishing back when he was healthy. Under Zorn we really don't know how the backfield will be used. I like to think that Portis will be on the receiving end of over 300 carries and WAY more involved in the passing game (I'm thinking 60-80 receptions), but right now it's pure speculation.

 

[buster c]

per the FBG mag, CP is 7.7 of all Rb's, with Wimer ranking him at 5, and Wood ranking him at 12 (behind Reg Bush at 11 )

 

[Tanner9919]

Looking at portis numbers last year, why should we expect a decline in ranking? Are those ranked ahead of him expected to be that much better, or do we expect him to be that much worse? He is going to be a workhorse back again, and was no worse than 5th as a RB, even in PPR leagues, so why is he ranked as RB #8 behind guys like Addai, Jackson, Gore, and Barber, some who were no where near his production last year...(I can see the arguement for ADP going before him, but Barber?)he should be about RB 5 behind LT, ADP, Westbrook, and Addai (while Addai finished behind him last year, addai's numbers were close enough if you want a player from Indy)

Clinton Portis > Addai...

 

[ukshane]

FWIW, Washington has the 5 toughest run schedule this season.