COD: Black Ops 3 (1 Viewer)

[Worm]

I hope they're moving to a killstreak system like MW3. I have to say I really like having the option of Support or Assault killstreaks. It was a great addition to the series.

And keep the system that gave you credit for things other than kills such as capturing an objective in Domination and such. Nice that they finally threw some of us suckier players a bone so we could enjoy the better killstreaks every once in a blue moon.

I can't stand support kill streaks, especially the lethal ones like the stealth bomber and air drop. Recon drone drives me nuts as well. They are an abortion, imo.I would actually prefer they discard killstreaks completely over putting back in support killstreaks or deathstreaks. Personally, I don't get much satisfaction out of putting up KS's. It's the rush I get from, say, killing 5 guys in under 10 seconds, that keeps me playing this game (and its also the main reason why I don't like BF3 outside of the close quarters maps).

Come to think of it, I think the best COD would be where they get rid of all streaks except Specialist, and up the difficultly level for acheiving the Specialist bonus.

That's great for the top 1-2% of players, but you have to realize that you're in the extreme minority.I'm a major rusher and not a bad player, but I've gotten tired of the complaining about the developers trying to balance the game. Giving lower skilled players that don't play nearly as much tools to slow down elite players just a bit is perfectly fine by me. I don't understand the fun in running off 80+ kills all the time and constantly crushing your opponents. It's more fun when winning a match is more of a challenge.

COD is becoming more accessible to a wider level of audience and generally making matches more evenly balanced. I think that's a good thing, even if it means I have to slow down and adopt a different playstyle sometimes. The top players have become so enamored with huge killcounts, high killstreaks and k/d ratios that the objectives don't even seem to matter to them. When I watch YT videos by the top players, it's almost always of them playing an objective based game where they don't even try to play the objective. That's lame. That's where COD needs to make some kind of change. Make the objectives matter more somehow. Maybe make it so that after a certain point in your KS you need to capture or defend an objective in some way in order to keep building your KS.

Well said. They should make game modes where the killstreaks are off and other more customizable areas for the elite guys (I'm assuming they don't already do this even though I know there are hardcore modes with the killcam off, etc.) I don't have the time to play as often as most teenagers or college kids and so will never be a very good player.

That's one of the things I hated about BlOps as a casual player, I could only very rarely rattle off enough kills to get any of the really cool killstreaks and that's a lot of the fun for most casual folks.

Hint: the elite guys don't want to play against elite guys. The majority of elite players aren't looking for good competition, they're looking for noobs to slay.

 

[Card Trader]

Support streaks are the worst. Tired of COD catering to the terrible players. "Hey look I went 12-27 with 2 caps so let me call in my KS that can kill the entire other team"

Weak stuff.

 

[hxperson]

I hope they're moving to a killstreak system like MW3. I have to say I really like having the option of Support or Assault killstreaks. It was a great addition to the series.

And keep the system that gave you credit for things other than kills such as capturing an objective in Domination and such. Nice that they finally threw some of us suckier players a bone so we could enjoy the better killstreaks every once in a blue moon.

I can't stand support kill streaks, especially the lethal ones like the stealth bomber and air drop. Recon drone drives me nuts as well. They are an abortion, imo.I would actually prefer they discard killstreaks completely over putting back in support killstreaks or deathstreaks. Personally, I don't get much satisfaction out of putting up KS's. It's the rush I get from, say, killing 5 guys in under 10 seconds, that keeps me playing this game (and its also the main reason why I don't like BF3 outside of the close quarters maps). Come to think of it, I think the best COD would be where they get rid of all streaks except Specialist, and up the difficultly level for acheiving the Specialist bonus.

That's great for the top 1-2% of players, but you have to realize that you're in the extreme minority.I'm a major rusher and not a bad player, but I've gotten tired of the complaining about the developers trying to balance the game. Giving lower skilled players that don't play nearly as much tools to slow down elite players just a bit is perfectly fine by me. I don't understand the fun in running off 80+ kills all the time and constantly crushing your opponents. It's more fun when winning a match is more of a challenge.COD is becoming more accessible to a wider level of audience and generally making matches more evenly balanced. I think that's a good thing, even if it means I have to slow down and adopt a different playstyle sometimes. The top players have become so enamored with huge killcounts, high killstreaks and k/d ratios that the objectives don't even seem to matter to them. When I watch YT videos by the top players, it's almost always of them playing an objective based game where they don't even try to play the objective. That's lame. That's where COD needs to make some kind of change. Make the objectives matter more somehow. Maybe make it so that after a certain point in your KS you need to capture or defend an objective in some way in order to keep building your KS.

Well said. They should make game modes where the killstreaks are off and other more customizable areas for the elite guys (I'm assuming they don't already do this even though I know there are hardcore modes with the killcam off, etc.) I don't have the time to play as often as most teenagers or college kids and so will never be a very good player.That's one of the things I hated about BlOps as a casual player, I could only very rarely rattle off enough kills to get any of the really cool killstreaks and that's a lot of the fun for most casual folks.

I dunno I find assault kill streaks actually help the good players do even better. And that benefit significantly outweighs any counterbalance from support kill streaks. At the same time, assault KS's encourage people to corner camp, lay prone or set up behind a wall and ADS down a long hallway, or do other cheesy things.If we got rid of both, sure there might be less "satisfaction" for some, but I think it would actually help newer players who don't know the maps well, aren't going to put up Pav Lows and what not, and are automatic deaths when one gets put up.Look I'm no Ren or Goat or Clawbeast - I'm far from an elite player. I just like the idea where every combat engagement I have is on equal footing. So even camping/head glitching - that's a part of any shooter and I accept that - every engagment has a positional advantage and the camper has that. But I think its silly that I am completely helpless because some schmuck managed to rack up 14 total kills and drop a stealth bomber on me while I'm out in the open. Or some dude who got 10 kills tags me with a recon drone, causing me to suddenly get swarmed by 5 opponents all knowing exactly which way I'm facing.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Support streaks are the worst. Tired of COD catering to the terrible players. "Hey look I went 12-27 with 2 caps so let me call in my KS that can kill the entire other team"Weak stuff.

Eh, I'd rather see a player rewarded for going 12-27 while playing the objective hard than reward a guy that goes 30-2 while completely ignoring the objective so that he can go camp spawns.I still don't understand why player rankings don't default sort to flag captured, tags collected, bombs planted, etc. for objective based modes. Doing that alone would go a long way towards changing the COD culture for the better. Heck, playcards don't even SHOW that stuff. It's ridiculous.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I hope they're moving to a killstreak system like MW3. I have to say I really like having the option of Support or Assault killstreaks. It was a great addition to the series.

And keep the system that gave you credit for things other than kills such as capturing an objective in Domination and such. Nice that they finally threw some of us suckier players a bone so we could enjoy the better killstreaks every once in a blue moon.

I can't stand support kill streaks, especially the lethal ones like the stealth bomber and air drop. Recon drone drives me nuts as well. They are an abortion, imo.I would actually prefer they discard killstreaks completely over putting back in support killstreaks or deathstreaks. Personally, I don't get much satisfaction out of putting up KS's. It's the rush I get from, say, killing 5 guys in under 10 seconds, that keeps me playing this game (and its also the main reason why I don't like BF3 outside of the close quarters maps). Come to think of it, I think the best COD would be where they get rid of all streaks except Specialist, and up the difficultly level for acheiving the Specialist bonus.

That's great for the top 1-2% of players, but you have to realize that you're in the extreme minority.I'm a major rusher and not a bad player, but I've gotten tired of the complaining about the developers trying to balance the game. Giving lower skilled players that don't play nearly as much tools to slow down elite players just a bit is perfectly fine by me. I don't understand the fun in running off 80+ kills all the time and constantly crushing your opponents. It's more fun when winning a match is more of a challenge.COD is becoming more accessible to a wider level of audience and generally making matches more evenly balanced. I think that's a good thing, even if it means I have to slow down and adopt a different playstyle sometimes. The top players have become so enamored with huge killcounts, high killstreaks and k/d ratios that the objectives don't even seem to matter to them. When I watch YT videos by the top players, it's almost always of them playing an objective based game where they don't even try to play the objective. That's lame. That's where COD needs to make some kind of change. Make the objectives matter more somehow. Maybe make it so that after a certain point in your KS you need to capture or defend an objective in some way in order to keep building your KS.

Well said. They should make game modes where the killstreaks are off and other more customizable areas for the elite guys (I'm assuming they don't already do this even though I know there are hardcore modes with the killcam off, etc.) I don't have the time to play as often as most teenagers or college kids and so will never be a very good player.That's one of the things I hated about BlOps as a casual player, I could only very rarely rattle off enough kills to get any of the really cool killstreaks and that's a lot of the fun for most casual folks.

I dunno I find assault kill streaks actually help the good players do even better. And that benefit significantly outweighs any counterbalance from support kill streaks. At the same time, assault KS's encourage people to corner camp, lay prone or set up behind a wall and ADS down a long hallway, or do other cheesy things.If we got rid of both, sure there might be less "satisfaction" for some, but I think it would actually help newer players who don't know the maps well, aren't going to put up Pav Lows and what not, and are automatic deaths when one gets put up.Look I'm no Ren or Goat or Clawbeast - I'm far from an elite player. I just like the idea where every combat engagement I have is on equal footing. So even camping/head glitching - that's a part of any shooter and I accept that - every engagment has a positional advantage and the camper has that. But I think its silly that I am completely helpless because some schmuck managed to rack up 14 total kills and drop a stealth bomber on me while I'm out in the open. Or some dude who got 10 kills tags me with a recon drone, causing me to suddenly get swarmed by 5 opponents all knowing exactly which way I'm facing.

That's fair. A gun only playlist seems like that would easily accomplish that and would be pretty easy for them to implement.

 

[Card Trader]

Support streaks are the worst. Tired of COD catering to the terrible players. "Hey look I went 12-27 with 2 caps so let me call in my KS that can kill the entire other team"Weak stuff.

Eh, I'd rather see a player rewarded for going 12-27 while playing the objective hard than reward a guy that goes 30-2 while completely ignoring the objective so that he can go camp spawns.I still don't understand why player rankings don't default sort to flag captured, tags collected, bombs planted, etc. for objective based modes. Doing that alone would go a long way towards changing the COD culture for the better. Heck, playcards don't even SHOW that stuff. It's ridiculous.

"Playing the objective" is fine, when you need to...what should someone do when you are holding 2 flags the entire game? Capture all 3? Playing the objective is thrown around a lot by people who can't get kills, and I understand that it gives them a goal, but the fact is there aren't too many objectives in the game, in domination you hold 2 points and win, in TDM the objective is to get kills. The guy going 30-2 and camping spawns is making sure your team will win the game in domination because the other team isn't getting out of their spawn to take back the points. No one that is bad enough to 12-27 should ever be rewarded with a lethal killstreak.

 

[bshell27]

I'll say I agree with card fan for the most part but I the guy going 12-27 is capping flags and helps with the W, he deserves a point toward a KS.

MW3 ruined it with support by allowing them to carry over.

On the other hand don't be an idiot and rush objectives giving the other team their KS. Clear it out and work together to get the cap.

 

[bshell27]

http://www.dualshockers.com/2012/08/07/rumor-black-ops-2-single-player-multiplayer-weapons-and-zombie-info-leaked/

Seems accurate

 

[GroveDiesel]

http://www.dualshockers.com/2012/08/07/rumor-black-ops-2-single-player-multiplayer-weapons-and-zombie-info-leaked/Seems accurate

Dedicated servers sounds great. The enhancements to theater mode and live streaming sound cool. I hope they bring back the ability to watch any other player's recent games and go into theater mode with other players.

 

[Worm]

Seems like BS. The live-streaming thing in particular.

Also, I think that PC folks will get dedicated servers, not console folks, based on some stuff I read a while ago.

 

[bshell27]

Seems like BS. The live-streaming thing in particular.Also, I think that PC folks will get dedicated servers, not console folks, based on some stuff I read a while ago.

A lot of it is accurate based on the trailer. I agree on ded. servers, maybe they improved theater mode.

 

[Hoss Style]

Support streaks are the worst. Tired of COD catering to the terrible players. "Hey look I went 12-27 with 2 caps so let me call in my KS that can kill the entire other team"Weak stuff.

Eh, I'd rather see a player rewarded for going 12-27 while playing the objective hard than reward a guy that goes 30-2 while completely ignoring the objective so that he can go camp spawns.I still don't understand why player rankings don't default sort to flag captured, tags collected, bombs planted, etc. for objective based modes. Doing that alone would go a long way towards changing the COD culture for the better. Heck, playcards don't even SHOW that stuff. It's ridiculous.

Agreed. Usually players that only go for the kills are the worst ones. They are the smg/shotgun kids I was referring to earlier. I used to play with a pretty darn good team and we'd hold half the map and use excellent teamwork. When the other team would start yelling about us "camping" (which we didn't, we moved all the time when enemies were called out) then we'd push foward as far as we could and pin them in an area. Then they yell about us spawn camping. If someone wants to whine - they'll whine no matter what.I have often wished that kills weren't even listed after matches. I'd much rather take the guy on my team who went 12-27 and went after the objective than the kid who ran all over the map and goes 27-12 with no teamwork at all. If only points were listed at the score screen then I think it'd help facilitate team play. This will never happen though since a large part of the buying public lives and dies with their K/D. It's actually ironic that if you team play your K/D actually goes up for the most part.

 

[Buckna]

Support streaks are the worst. Tired of COD catering to the terrible players. "Hey look I went 12-27 with 2 caps so let me call in my KS that can kill the entire other team"Weak stuff.

Eh, I'd rather see a player rewarded for going 12-27 while playing the objective hard than reward a guy that goes 30-2 while completely ignoring the objective so that he can go camp spawns.I still don't understand why player rankings don't default sort to flag captured, tags collected, bombs planted, etc. for objective based modes. Doing that alone would go a long way towards changing the COD culture for the better. Heck, playcards don't even SHOW that stuff. It's ridiculous.

"Playing the objective" is fine, when you need to...what should someone do when you are holding 2 flags the entire game? Capture all 3? Playing the objective is thrown around a lot by people who can't get kills, and I understand that it gives them a goal, but the fact is there aren't too many objectives in the game, in domination you hold 2 points and win, in TDM the objective is to get kills. The guy going 30-2 and camping spawns is making sure your team will win the game in domination because the other team isn't getting out of their spawn to take back the points. No one that is bad enough to 12-27 should ever be rewarded with a lethal killstreak.

I understand the argument, but like Worm said in his "Hint" many of the guys racking up those kills aren't really interested in helping their team all that much. If most good players just want to rack up kills against noobs, you have to have something to balance that or your noobs will give up in frustration and not buy your game. Plus, based on my experience, if I had a KS point every time I saw the 30-2 players on the losing team in Domination, I'd be calling in a lot of chopper gunners.I'm not sure I really get the ranting against support streaks either. If a guy goes 12-27, he's going to call in a max of what? 1 Stealth bomber per game? Reminds me of one of the rant posts on here in one of the BlOps or MW2 threads about "cheap kills" and why the game was ruined. I wonder if I can find it.

 

[Hoss Style]

No one that is bad enough to 12-27 should ever be rewarded with a lethal killstreak.

I can't stress enough how much I disagree with this. We used to have a guy on capture the flag. He was on the Offense team. His job, literally, was to run to certain areas we'd call out and distract the defenders until he died while we grabbed the flag. He was and still is a great shot. But he didn't give a rat's ### about K/D and his entire role was to live as long as he could and kite the defenders away from the flag. He actually didn't even want to kill them until we had the flag so they'd not respawn in our path.low k/d =/= "bad". Sure, sometimes. But sometimes not.I'm not saying one way is the right way to play and one isn't. It's preference. I love BF3 as well because it's more thought than reaction. Many times the smarter player wins against the twitch-reaction guy. But both styles are fine.But to say someone has to be "bad enough" to go 12-27 as a blanket statement is weak. This the k/d mindset that CoD has ingrained in kid's heads for years now.

 

[bshell27]

Support streaks are the worst. Tired of COD catering to the terrible players. "Hey look I went 12-27 with 2 caps so let me call in my KS that can kill the entire other team"Weak stuff.

Eh, I'd rather see a player rewarded for going 12-27 while playing the objective hard than reward a guy that goes 30-2 while completely ignoring the objective so that he can go camp spawns.I still don't understand why player rankings don't default sort to flag captured, tags collected, bombs planted, etc. for objective based modes. Doing that alone would go a long way towards changing the COD culture for the better. Heck, playcards don't even SHOW that stuff. It's ridiculous.

Agreed. Usually players that only go for the kills are the worst ones. They are the smg/shotgun kids I was referring to earlier. I used to play with a pretty darn good team and we'd hold half the map and use excellent teamwork. When the other team would start yelling about us "camping" (which we didn't, we moved all the time when enemies were called out) then we'd push foward as far as we could and pin them in an area. Then they yell about us spawn camping. If someone wants to whine - they'll whine no matter what.I have often wished that kills weren't even listed after matches. I'd much rather take the guy on my team who went 12-27 and went after the objective than the kid who ran all over the map and goes 27-12 with no teamwork at all. If only points were listed at the score screen that I think it'd help facilitate team play. This will never happen though since a large part of the buying public lives and dies with their K/D. It's actually ironic that if you team play your K/D actully goes up for the most part.

What's your GT? You need a slayer (different than a K/D whore) on your team as much as you need an objective whore IMO. If you all rush objectives great, but if you are not tactical you are feeding KS's to the other team; you will lose. A slayer clears out an objective and may not get the cap but is instrumental in assisting the team get the cap. This is really getting to be a silly conversation. Are there selfish players in COD? Yes. Are you accusing someone on this board or speaking generally? I can attest that most of the players I play with from this board are not killwhores. If I go 60-3 in a game with 1-2 caps I helped my team win because for the most part I kept the enemy in their spawn and away from our flag and B. The people on this board who triple cap on the other hand are a problem too, because you flip spawns and allow the other team to get back into the game when you could have contained them and won easily. Another thing, I prefer a challenge rather than a 70-5 game. Is it fun to have a huge game? Yes. Is it boring after a while? Yes. I would rather have a great connection against a strong team and win/lose, than have a great connection and destroy BK's. The ONLY thing I will ever complain about is connection. When I KNOW I should win a gun fight and it doesn't register my bullets and I die, there is NOTHING that can be done about that. When you are a one, two or most times a three bar in BLOPS you have almost no chance and have to dramatically alter your play style. Fix that and I'm all the way in on this offering. If it is more of the same, I'm done.

 

[Card Trader]

But to say someone has to be "bad enough" to go 12-27 as a blanket statement is weak. This the k/d mindset that CoD has ingrained in kid's heads for years now.

Going 12-27 is bad, any way you look at it. Decoy or not, if you have the skill you won't go 12-27.

 

[Card Trader]

Support streaks are the worst. Tired of COD catering to the terrible players. "Hey look I went 12-27 with 2 caps so let me call in my KS that can kill the entire other team"Weak stuff.

Eh, I'd rather see a player rewarded for going 12-27 while playing the objective hard than reward a guy that goes 30-2 while completely ignoring the objective so that he can go camp spawns.I still don't understand why player rankings don't default sort to flag captured, tags collected, bombs planted, etc. for objective based modes. Doing that alone would go a long way towards changing the COD culture for the better. Heck, playcards don't even SHOW that stuff. It's ridiculous.

Agreed. Usually players that only go for the kills are the worst ones. They are the smg/shotgun kids I was referring to earlier. I used to play with a pretty darn good team and we'd hold half the map and use excellent teamwork. When the other team would start yelling about us "camping" (which we didn't, we moved all the time when enemies were called out) then we'd push foward as far as we could and pin them in an area. Then they yell about us spawn camping. If someone wants to whine - they'll whine no matter what.I have often wished that kills weren't even listed after matches. I'd much rather take the guy on my team who went 12-27 and went after the objective than the kid who ran all over the map and goes 27-12 with no teamwork at all. If only points were listed at the score screen that I think it'd help facilitate team play. This will never happen though since a large part of the buying public lives and dies with their K/D. It's actually ironic that if you team play your K/D actully goes up for the most part.

What's your GT? You need a slayer (different that a K/D whore) on your team as much as you need an objective whore IMO. If you all rush objectives great, but if you are not tactical you are feeding KS's to the other team and you will lose. A slayer clears out an objective and may not get the cap but is instrumental in assisting the team get the cap. This is really getting to be a silly conversation. Are there selfish players in COD? Yes. Are you accusing someone on this board or speaking generally? I can attest that most of the players I play with from this board are not killwhores. If I go 60-3 in a game with 1-2 caps I helped my team win because for the most part I kept the enemy in their spawn and away from our flag and B. The people on this board who triple cap on the other hand are a problem too, because you flip spawns and allow the other team to get back into the game when you could have contained them and won easily. Another thing, I prefer a challenge rather than a 70-5 game. Is it fun to have a huge game? Yes. Is it boring after a while? Yes. I would rather have a great connection against a strong team and win/lose, than have a great connection and destroy BK's. The ONLY thing I will ever complain about is connection. When I KNOW I should win a gun fight and it doesn't register my bullets and I die, there is NOTHING that can be done about that. When you are a one, two or most times a three bar in BLOPS you have almost no chance and have to dramatically alter your play style. Fix that and I'm all the way in on this offering. If it is more of the same, I'm done.

Great post Clawyer. Not much worse thing you can do for your "team" than be an objective whore and run after the flag/point over and over and keep dying and feeding the other team back breaking killstreaks.

 

[Thunderlips]

What's a personal incentive to win (whatever the objective may be) in the team game? If it's a good enough incentive....everyone will play to win.

 

[Hoss Style]

Support streaks are the worst. Tired of COD catering to the terrible players. "Hey look I went 12-27 with 2 caps so let me call in my KS that can kill the entire other team"Weak stuff.

Eh, I'd rather see a player rewarded for going 12-27 while playing the objective hard than reward a guy that goes 30-2 while completely ignoring the objective so that he can go camp spawns.I still don't understand why player rankings don't default sort to flag captured, tags collected, bombs planted, etc. for objective based modes. Doing that alone would go a long way towards changing the COD culture for the better. Heck, playcards don't even SHOW that stuff. It's ridiculous.

Agreed. Usually players that only go for the kills are the worst ones. They are the smg/shotgun kids I was referring to earlier. I used to play with a pretty darn good team and we'd hold half the map and use excellent teamwork. When the other team would start yelling about us "camping" (which we didn't, we moved all the time when enemies were called out) then we'd push foward as far as we could and pin them in an area. Then they yell about us spawn camping. If someone wants to whine - they'll whine no matter what.I have often wished that kills weren't even listed after matches. I'd much rather take the guy on my team who went 12-27 and went after the objective than the kid who ran all over the map and goes 27-12 with no teamwork at all. If only points were listed at the score screen that I think it'd help facilitate team play. This will never happen though since a large part of the buying public lives and dies with their K/D. It's actually ironic that if you team play your K/D actully goes up for the most part.

What's your GT? You need a slayer (different that a K/D whore) on your team as much as you need an objective whore IMO. If you all rush objectives great, but if you are not tactical you are feeding KS's to the other team; you will lose. A slayer clears out an objective and may not get the cap but is instrumental in assisting the team get the cap. This is really getting to be a silly conversation. Are there selfish players in COD? Yes. Are you accusing someone on this board or speaking generally? I can attest that most of the players I play with from this board are not killwhores. If I go 60-3 in a game with 1-2 caps I helped my team win because for the most part I kept the enemy in their spawn and away from our flag and B. The people on this board who triple cap on the other hand are a problem too, because you flip spawns and allow the other team to get back into the game when you could have contained them and won easily. Another thing, I prefer a challenge rather than a 70-5 game. Is it fun to have a huge game? Yes. Is it boring after a while? Yes. I would rather have a great connection against a strong team and win/lose, than have a great connection and destroy BK's. The ONLY thing I will ever complain about is connection. When I KNOW I should win a gun fight and it doesn't register my bullets and I die, there is NOTHING that can be done about that. When you are a one, two or most times a three bar in BLOPS you have almost no chance and have to dramatically alter your play style. Fix that and I'm all the way in on this offering. If it is more of the same, I'm done.

Sure you need people to get kills as well. Never argued that point. I was responding to the person who made the statement implying that support streaks only cater to terrible players and used the k/d as an example. Hence the quote box.I totally understand your point about smart team play as well. Like I said before - we'd camp the heck out of a spawn if the other team couldn't get out of it. We weren't going to play dumb just because we felt bad for the other team. It's just a game after all.And I was speaking generally but referring to an individual post - take it as you will.And I do agree lag is the most irritating thing in the game by far. Dying behind cover almost defeats the point of having cover at all. I used to play LAN on the PC and the difference is night and day. I know someday they'll figure out a way to compensate for it - I just hope it's sooner than later.

 

[Hoss Style]

But to say someone has to be "bad enough" to go 12-27 as a blanket statement is weak. This the k/d mindset that CoD has ingrained in kid's heads for years now.

Going 12-27 is bad, any way you look at it. Decoy or not, if you have the skill you won't go 12-27.

I can't agrue with you then. If I tell you, as I just did, that the entire purpose of the decoy was to kite defenders and not get kills and you still don't understand that his k/d doesn't matter... well, I give up.

 

[Buckna]

This is really getting to be a silly conversation. Are there selfish players in COD? Yes. Are you accusing someone on this board or speaking generally? I can attest that most of the players I play with from this board are not killwhores. If I go 60-3 in a game with 1-2 caps I helped my team win because for the most part I kept the enemy in their spawn and away from our flag and B.

At least the few posts I have made are not talking about guys from this board at all. If anything most of the folks on here have been great. I've benefitted a lot from reading some of y'all talk about map choke points, gun statistics, links to youtube videos, tactics, etc. And I barely play...~~~~~Until recently, I didn't know that the Samsung tv I was previously playing on was notoriously bad for lag in multiplayer games. A thread here in the FFA brought this little tidbit to my attention. Now I have a new Panasonic plasma I am itching to try out BlOps 2 on to see if there's any improvement. I used to always complain about lag in games despite a fast dsl connection so I am hoping to see a big difference.

 

[Hoss Style]

Support streaks are the worst. Tired of COD catering to the terrible players. "Hey look I went 12-27 with 2 caps so let me call in my KS that can kill the entire other team"Weak stuff.

Eh, I'd rather see a player rewarded for going 12-27 while playing the objective hard than reward a guy that goes 30-2 while completely ignoring the objective so that he can go camp spawns.I still don't understand why player rankings don't default sort to flag captured, tags collected, bombs planted, etc. for objective based modes. Doing that alone would go a long way towards changing the COD culture for the better. Heck, playcards don't even SHOW that stuff. It's ridiculous.

Agreed. Usually players that only go for the kills are the worst ones. They are the smg/shotgun kids I was referring to earlier. I used to play with a pretty darn good team and we'd hold half the map and use excellent teamwork. When the other team would start yelling about us "camping" (which we didn't, we moved all the time when enemies were called out) then we'd push foward as far as we could and pin them in an area. Then they yell about us spawn camping. If someone wants to whine - they'll whine no matter what.I have often wished that kills weren't even listed after matches. I'd much rather take the guy on my team who went 12-27 and went after the objective than the kid who ran all over the map and goes 27-12 with no teamwork at all. If only points were listed at the score screen that I think it'd help facilitate team play. This will never happen though since a large part of the buying public lives and dies with their K/D. It's actually ironic that if you team play your K/D actully goes up for the most part.

What's your GT? You need a slayer (different that a K/D whore) on your team as much as you need an objective whore IMO. If you all rush objectives great, but if you are not tactical you are feeding KS's to the other team and you will lose. A slayer clears out an objective and may not get the cap but is instrumental in assisting the team get the cap. This is really getting to be a silly conversation. Are there selfish players in COD? Yes. Are you accusing someone on this board or speaking generally? I can attest that most of the players I play with from this board are not killwhores. If I go 60-3 in a game with 1-2 caps I helped my team win because for the most part I kept the enemy in their spawn and away from our flag and B. The people on this board who triple cap on the other hand are a problem too, because you flip spawns and allow the other team to get back into the game when you could have contained them and won easily. Another thing, I prefer a challenge rather than a 70-5 game. Is it fun to have a huge game? Yes. Is it boring after a while? Yes. I would rather have a great connection against a strong team and win/lose, than have a great connection and destroy BK's. The ONLY thing I will ever complain about is connection. When I KNOW I should win a gun fight and it doesn't register my bullets and I die, there is NOTHING that can be done about that. When you are a one, two or most times a three bar in BLOPS you have almost no chance and have to dramatically alter your play style. Fix that and I'm all the way in on this offering. If it is more of the same, I'm done.

Great post Clawyer. Not much worse thing you can do for your "team" than be an objective whore and run after the flag/point over and over and keep dying and feeding the other team back breaking killstreaks.

Well, I will defend my self by saying that our "team" was pretty good. We were a bunch of older guys who played together and used stratagies all the time. In fact, it used to be (not sure if it still is) that if you played at the top level of Gamebattles you'd often go negative. Many many times you'd come out with a win but have a crappy k/d. Back in WaW (when we played) all the top teams would have random k/ds at the end of a slugfest with another equally matched team.I don't know how to explain this any better. I'll just let it lie. My entire point is that k/d is not always a good indicator of a good player or bad player. It's just true. Team play involves a lot of other things too. And I hope in the future FPS games find a way to score those things, as well.

 

[hxperson]

But to say someone has to be "bad enough" to go 12-27 as a blanket statement is weak. This the k/d mindset that CoD has ingrained in kid's heads for years now.

Going 12-27 is bad, any way you look at it. Decoy or not, if you have the skill you won't go 12-27.

I can't agrue with you then. If I tell you, as I just did, that the entire purpose of the decoy was to kite defenders and not get kills and you still don't understand that his k/d doesn't matter... well, I give up.

don't hate Cardfan just cuz you have low k/d.

 

[bshell27]

Support streaks are the worst. Tired of COD catering to the terrible players. "Hey look I went 12-27 with 2 caps so let me call in my KS that can kill the entire other team"Weak stuff.

Eh, I'd rather see a player rewarded for going 12-27 while playing the objective hard than reward a guy that goes 30-2 while completely ignoring the objective so that he can go camp spawns.I still don't understand why player rankings don't default sort to flag captured, tags collected, bombs planted, etc. for objective based modes. Doing that alone would go a long way towards changing the COD culture for the better. Heck, playcards don't even SHOW that stuff. It's ridiculous.

Agreed. Usually players that only go for the kills are the worst ones. They are the smg/shotgun kids I was referring to earlier. I used to play with a pretty darn good team and we'd hold half the map and use excellent teamwork. When the other team would start yelling about us "camping" (which we didn't, we moved all the time when enemies were called out) then we'd push foward as far as we could and pin them in an area. Then they yell about us spawn camping. If someone wants to whine - they'll whine no matter what.I have often wished that kills weren't even listed after matches. I'd much rather take the guy on my team who went 12-27 and went after the objective than the kid who ran all over the map and goes 27-12 with no teamwork at all. If only points were listed at the score screen that I think it'd help facilitate team play. This will never happen though since a large part of the buying public lives and dies with their K/D. It's actually ironic that if you team play your K/D actully goes up for the most part.

What's your GT? You need a slayer (different that a K/D whore) on your team as much as you need an objective whore IMO. If you all rush objectives great, but if you are not tactical you are feeding KS's to the other team; you will lose. A slayer clears out an objective and may not get the cap but is instrumental in assisting the team get the cap. This is really getting to be a silly conversation. Are there selfish players in COD? Yes. Are you accusing someone on this board or speaking generally? I can attest that most of the players I play with from this board are not killwhores. If I go 60-3 in a game with 1-2 caps I helped my team win because for the most part I kept the enemy in their spawn and away from our flag and B. The people on this board who triple cap on the other hand are a problem too, because you flip spawns and allow the other team to get back into the game when you could have contained them and won easily. Another thing, I prefer a challenge rather than a 70-5 game. Is it fun to have a huge game? Yes. Is it boring after a while? Yes. I would rather have a great connection against a strong team and win/lose, than have a great connection and destroy BK's. The ONLY thing I will ever complain about is connection. When I KNOW I should win a gun fight and it doesn't register my bullets and I die, there is NOTHING that can be done about that. When you are a one, two or most times a three bar in BLOPS you have almost no chance and have to dramatically alter your play style. Fix that and I'm all the way in on this offering. If it is more of the same, I'm done.

Sure you need people to get kills as well. Never argued that point. I was responding to the person who made the statement implying that support streaks only cater to terrible players and used the k/d as an example. Hence the quote box.I totally understand your point about smart team play as well. Like I said before - we'd camp the heck out of a spawn if the other team couldn't get out of it. We weren't going to play dumb just because we felt bad for the other team. It's just a game after all.And I was speaking generally but referring to an individual post - take it as you will.And I do agree lag is the most irritating thing in the game by far. Dying behind cover almost defeats the point of having cover at all. I used to play LAN on the PC and the difference is night and day. I know someday they'll figure out a way to compensate for it - I just hope it's sooner than later.

Support Streaks are terrible. No if's, and's or but's. Only because of the fact they carry over. Any noob can get 14 kills and get an EMP, Stealth, and Adv. UAV. Yet it is SOOOO powerful in that game. If you have 3-4 of those noobs, or even a whole team it can be devastating and it is cheap. You will be EMP'd the whole game, or have MULTIPLE stealh bombs, or an advanced UAV up the entire match. How do you think Jnasty720 gets 187 kills in one game? His entire team is throwing down support and ballistic vests. Support, the way it is setup in MW3, is OP.

 

[Hoss Style]

But to say someone has to be "bad enough" to go 12-27 as a blanket statement is weak. This the k/d mindset that CoD has ingrained in kid's heads for years now.

Going 12-27 is bad, any way you look at it. Decoy or not, if you have the skill you won't go 12-27.

I can't agrue with you then. If I tell you, as I just did, that the entire purpose of the decoy was to kite defenders and not get kills and you still don't understand that his k/d doesn't matter... well, I give up.

don't hate Cardfan just cuz you have low k/d.

This is digressing quickly into an epeen post. I want to get out before it gets there. Never wanted that. We all enjoy gaming and that's what counts.That being said, just for fun (of course), if you see me on I'll be playing with one of 2 teams - a team that will camp one side of the map and trap you on your half or my "running" team that moves as a group all over the map. We've won just under 500 in a row on our best streak - and we don't dashboard. We are a bunch of old guys that literally just play for our own fun and hope the other team doesn't get too hurt over it. If you want to join up I'll invite and you sure can play with us if we have room. We always enjoy good games with good people. If you're on the other team then just grin and bear it and realize it's all in good fun.

We're just a bunch of old farts who used to be pretty darn good. When we were on Gamebattles we got up to #3 in the US. It's basically the same group of guys now but we don't play as much and we are older and slower and we seem to get agitated a lot easier these days. My gamertag is "Obi is not Dead". It's an old joke from back in the day. If you send a friend request just let me know you're from here. We don't often have room in our parties but if we do I'll shoot you an invite - or maybe I can get in your group and show you just how old and slow I've gotten.

 

[hxperson]

I hope they're moving to a killstreak system like MW3. I have to say I really like having the option of Support or Assault killstreaks. It was a great addition to the series.

And keep the system that gave you credit for things other than kills such as capturing an objective in Domination and such. Nice that they finally threw some of us suckier players a bone so we could enjoy the better killstreaks every once in a blue moon.

I can't stand support kill streaks, especially the lethal ones like the stealth bomber and air drop. Recon drone drives me nuts as well. They are an abortion, imo.I would actually prefer they discard killstreaks completely over putting back in support killstreaks or deathstreaks. Personally, I don't get much satisfaction out of putting up KS's. It's the rush I get from, say, killing 5 guys in under 10 seconds, that keeps me playing this game (and its also the main reason why I don't like BF3 outside of the close quarters maps). Come to think of it, I think the best COD would be where they get rid of all streaks except Specialist, and up the difficultly level for acheiving the Specialist bonus.

That's great for the top 1-2% of players, but you have to realize that you're in the extreme minority.I'm a major rusher and not a bad player, but I've gotten tired of the complaining about the developers trying to balance the game. Giving lower skilled players that don't play nearly as much tools to slow down elite players just a bit is perfectly fine by me. I don't understand the fun in running off 80+ kills all the time and constantly crushing your opponents. It's more fun when winning a match is more of a challenge.COD is becoming more accessible to a wider level of audience and generally making matches more evenly balanced. I think that's a good thing, even if it means I have to slow down and adopt a different playstyle sometimes. The top players have become so enamored with huge killcounts, high killstreaks and k/d ratios that the objectives don't even seem to matter to them. When I watch YT videos by the top players, it's almost always of them playing an objective based game where they don't even try to play the objective. That's lame. That's where COD needs to make some kind of change. Make the objectives matter more somehow. Maybe make it so that after a certain point in your KS you need to capture or defend an objective in some way in order to keep building your KS.

Well said. They should make game modes where the killstreaks are off and other more customizable areas for the elite guys (I'm assuming they don't already do this even though I know there are hardcore modes with the killcam off, etc.) I don't have the time to play as often as most teenagers or college kids and so will never be a very good player.That's one of the things I hated about BlOps as a casual player, I could only very rarely rattle off enough kills to get any of the really cool killstreaks and that's a lot of the fun for most casual folks.

I dunno I find assault kill streaks actually help the good players do even better. And that benefit significantly outweighs any counterbalance from support kill streaks. At the same time, assault KS's encourage people to corner camp, lay prone or set up behind a wall and ADS down a long hallway, or do other cheesy things.If we got rid of both, sure there might be less "satisfaction" for some, but I think it would actually help newer players who don't know the maps well, aren't going to put up Pav Lows and what not, and are automatic deaths when one gets put up.Look I'm no Ren or Goat or Clawbeast - I'm far from an elite player. I just like the idea where every combat engagement I have is on equal footing. So even camping/head glitching - that's a part of any shooter and I accept that - every engagment has a positional advantage and the camper has that. But I think its silly that I am completely helpless because some schmuck managed to rack up 14 total kills and drop a stealth bomber on me while I'm out in the open. Or some dude who got 10 kills tags me with a recon drone, causing me to suddenly get swarmed by 5 opponents all knowing exactly which way I'm facing.

That's fair. A gun only playlist seems like that would easily accomplish that and would be pretty easy for them to implement.

I agree - the only problem is that not many people other than myself would be playing it.

 

[hxperson]

But to say someone has to be "bad enough" to go 12-27 as a blanket statement is weak. This the k/d mindset that CoD has ingrained in kid's heads for years now.

Going 12-27 is bad, any way you look at it. Decoy or not, if you have the skill you won't go 12-27.

I can't agrue with you then. If I tell you, as I just did, that the entire purpose of the decoy was to kite defenders and not get kills and you still don't understand that his k/d doesn't matter... well, I give up.

don't hate Cardfan just cuz you have low k/d.

This is digressing quickly into an epeen post. I want to get out before it gets there. Never wanted that. We all enjoy gaming and that's what counts.That being said, just for fun (of course), if you see me on I'll be playing with one of 2 teams - a team that will camp one side of the map and trap you on your half or my "running" team that moves as a group all over the map. We've won just under 500 in a row on our best streak - and we don't dashboard. We are a bunch of old guys that literally just play for our own fun and hope the other team doesn't get too hurt over it. If you want to join up I'll invite and you sure can play with us if we have room. We always enjoy good games with good people. If you're on the other team then just grin and bear it and realize it's all in good fun.

We're just a bunch of old farts who used to be pretty darn good. When we were on Gamebattles we got up to #3 in the US. It's basically the same group of guys now but we don't play as much and we are older and slower and we seem to get agitated a lot easier these days. My gamertag is "Obi is not Dead". It's an old joke from back in the day. If you send a friend request just let me know you're from here. We don't often have room in our parties but if we do I'll shoot you an invite - or maybe I can get in your group and show you just how old and slow I've gotten.

lol I was totally joking. I thought breaking out the standard noob response would be kinda funny, but I guess only to me. sorry if I offended. I'll def send a friend request.

 

[bshell27]

But to say someone has to be "bad enough" to go 12-27 as a blanket statement is weak. This the k/d mindset that CoD has ingrained in kid's heads for years now.

Going 12-27 is bad, any way you look at it. Decoy or not, if you have the skill you won't go 12-27.

I can't agrue with you then. If I tell you, as I just did, that the entire purpose of the decoy was to kite defenders and not get kills and you still don't understand that his k/d doesn't matter... well, I give up.

don't hate Cardfan just cuz you have low k/d.

This is digressing quickly into an epeen post. I want to get out before it gets there. Never wanted that. We all enjoy gaming and that's what counts.That being said, just for fun (of course), if you see me on I'll be playing with one of 2 teams - a team that will camp one side of the map and trap you on your half or my "running" team that moves as a group all over the map. We've won just under 500 in a row on our best streak - and we don't dashboard. We are a bunch of old guys that literally just play for our own fun and hope the other team doesn't get too hurt over it. If you want to join up I'll invite and you sure can play with us if we have room. We always enjoy good games with good people. If you're on the other team then just grin and bear it and realize it's all in good fun.

We're just a bunch of old farts who used to be pretty darn good. When we were on Gamebattles we got up to #3 in the US. It's basically the same group of guys now but we don't play as much and we are older and slower and we seem to get agitated a lot easier these days. My gamertag is "Obi is not Dead". It's an old joke from back in the day. If you send a friend request just let me know you're from here. We don't often have room in our parties but if we do I'll shoot you an invite.

This sounds fun. Ryodan, AZCard, Ren, Dude, Goat, Matt, Nyquil, Smoke... ASSEMBLE!!!!!

 

[bshell27]

But to say someone has to be "bad enough" to go 12-27 as a blanket statement is weak. This the k/d mindset that CoD has ingrained in kid's heads for years now.

Going 12-27 is bad, any way you look at it. Decoy or not, if you have the skill you won't go 12-27.

I can't agrue with you then. If I tell you, as I just did, that the entire purpose of the decoy was to kite defenders and not get kills and you still don't understand that his k/d doesn't matter... well, I give up.

don't hate Cardfan just cuz you have low k/d.

This is digressing quickly into an epeen post. I want to get out before it gets there. Never wanted that. We all enjoy gaming and that's what counts.That being said, just for fun (of course), if you see me on I'll be playing with one of 2 teams - a team that will camp one side of the map and trap you on your half or my "running" team that moves as a group all over the map. We've won just under 500 in a row on our best streak - and we don't dashboard. We are a bunch of old guys that literally just play for our own fun and hope the other team doesn't get too hurt over it. If you want to join up I'll invite and you sure can play with us if we have room. We always enjoy good games with good people. If you're on the other team then just grin and bear it and realize it's all in good fun.

We're just a bunch of old farts who used to be pretty darn good. When we were on Gamebattles we got up to #3 in the US. It's basically the same group of guys now but we don't play as much and we are older and slower and we seem to get agitated a lot easier these days. My gamertag is "Obi is not Dead". It's an old joke from back in the day. If you send a friend request just let me know you're from here. We don't often have room in our parties but if we do I'll shoot you an invite - or maybe I can get in your group and show you just how old and slow I've gotten.

lol I was totally joking. I thought breaking out the standard noob response would be kinda funny, but I guess only to me. sorry if I offended. I'll def send a friend request.

He doesn't understand Canadian humor. This reminds me of something, anyone have a #### bucket? J/K

I would love to play some games with obi.

 

[bshell27]

FTR, I had to google epeen.

 

[Hoss Style]

But to say someone has to be "bad enough" to go 12-27 as a blanket statement is weak. This the k/d mindset that CoD has ingrained in kid's heads for years now.

Going 12-27 is bad, any way you look at it. Decoy or not, if you have the skill you won't go 12-27.

I can't agrue with you then. If I tell you, as I just did, that the entire purpose of the decoy was to kite defenders and not get kills and you still don't understand that his k/d doesn't matter... well, I give up.

don't hate Cardfan just cuz you have low k/d.

This is digressing quickly into an epeen post. I want to get out before it gets there. Never wanted that. We all enjoy gaming and that's what counts.That being said, just for fun (of course), if you see me on I'll be playing with one of 2 teams - a team that will camp one side of the map and trap you on your half or my "running" team that moves as a group all over the map. We've won just under 500 in a row on our best streak - and we don't dashboard. We are a bunch of old guys that literally just play for our own fun and hope the other team doesn't get too hurt over it. If you want to join up I'll invite and you sure can play with us if we have room. We always enjoy good games with good people. If you're on the other team then just grin and bear it and realize it's all in good fun.

We're just a bunch of old farts who used to be pretty darn good. When we were on Gamebattles we got up to #3 in the US. It's basically the same group of guys now but we don't play as much and we are older and slower and we seem to get agitated a lot easier these days. My gamertag is "Obi is not Dead". It's an old joke from back in the day. If you send a friend request just let me know you're from here. We don't often have room in our parties but if we do I'll shoot you an invite - or maybe I can get in your group and show you just how old and slow I've gotten.

lol I was totally joking. I thought breaking out the standard noob response would be kinda funny, but I guess only to me. sorry if I offended. I'll def send a friend request.

I thought it might have been. But my laptop is crapping out I think. I see the now when you quoted it - but for some reason it doesn't show in the original post. Anyway, I never took offense. I'm passionate about gaming as I've been doing it most of my life and it seems you guys are too. I'd love to play with you guys sometime. I don't play as much anymore but if there's good games with good people I'd be honored to get an invite from some of you.I'll even be the "decoy".

 

[Hoss Style]

FTR, I had to google epeen.

Yeah, I don't even know if they use that term anymore. It's from my "super nerd" days when I played PC games competitively. Just to show my age - I was around when 1337-speak was invented.I wasn't big in the dating scene back then...

 

[Worm]

LOL @ support streaks being OP.

Have you ever actually lost a game b/c of a bad player using a support streak? 90% of the complaining I see from good players is just because they get their KS interrupted by something. Last stand is dumb! Ghost is dumb! Support streaks are dumb! etc. Meanwhile they are going 34-4 and winning by a landslide.

 

[Wrigley]

Ok, I'll get it.

 

[Wrigley]

But to say someone has to be "bad enough" to go 12-27 as a blanket statement is weak. This the k/d mindset that CoD has ingrained in kid's heads for years now.

Going 12-27 is bad, any way you look at it. Decoy or not, if you have the skill you won't go 12-27.

I can't agrue with you then. If I tell you, as I just did, that the entire purpose of the decoy was to kite defenders and not get kills and you still don't understand that his k/d doesn't matter... well, I give up.

don't hate Cardfan just cuz you have low k/d.

This is digressing quickly into an epeen post. I want to get out before it gets there. Never wanted that. We all enjoy gaming and that's what counts.That being said, just for fun (of course), if you see me on I'll be playing with one of 2 teams - a team that will camp one side of the map and trap you on your half or my "running" team that moves as a group all over the map. We've won just under 500 in a row on our best streak - and we don't dashboard. We are a bunch of old guys that literally just play for our own fun and hope the other team doesn't get too hurt over it. If you want to join up I'll invite and you sure can play with us if we have room. We always enjoy good games with good people. If you're on the other team then just grin and bear it and realize it's all in good fun.

We're just a bunch of old farts who used to be pretty darn good. When we were on Gamebattles we got up to #3 in the US. It's basically the same group of guys now but we don't play as much and we are older and slower and we seem to get agitated a lot easier these days. My gamertag is "Obi is not Dead". It's an old joke from back in the day. If you send a friend request just let me know you're from here. We don't often have room in our parties but if we do I'll shoot you an invite.

This sounds fun. Ryodan, AZCard, Ren, Dude, Goat, Matt, Nyquil, Smoke... ASSEMBLE!!!!!

 

[bshell27]

LOL @ support streaks being OP.Have you ever actually lost a game b/c of a bad player using a support streak? 90% of the complaining I see from good players is just because they get their KS interrupted by something. Last stand is dumb! Ghost is dumb! Support streaks are dumb! etc. Meanwhile they are going 34-4 and winning by a landslide.

I'll answer your question with a question:Have you ever played a team who ONLY used support streaks? It is OP.

 

[bshell27]

But to say someone has to be "bad enough" to go 12-27 as a blanket statement is weak. This the k/d mindset that CoD has ingrained in kid's heads for years now.

Going 12-27 is bad, any way you look at it. Decoy or not, if you have the skill you won't go 12-27.

I can't agrue with you then. If I tell you, as I just did, that the entire purpose of the decoy was to kite defenders and not get kills and you still don't understand that his k/d doesn't matter... well, I give up.

don't hate Cardfan just cuz you have low k/d.

This is digressing quickly into an epeen post. I want to get out before it gets there. Never wanted that. We all enjoy gaming and that's what counts.That being said, just for fun (of course), if you see me on I'll be playing with one of 2 teams - a team that will camp one side of the map and trap you on your half or my "running" team that moves as a group all over the map. We've won just under 500 in a row on our best streak - and we don't dashboard. We are a bunch of old guys that literally just play for our own fun and hope the other team doesn't get too hurt over it. If you want to join up I'll invite and you sure can play with us if we have room. We always enjoy good games with good people. If you're on the other team then just grin and bear it and realize it's all in good fun.

We're just a bunch of old farts who used to be pretty darn good. When we were on Gamebattles we got up to #3 in the US. It's basically the same group of guys now but we don't play as much and we are older and slower and we seem to get agitated a lot easier these days. My gamertag is "Obi is not Dead". It's an old joke from back in the day. If you send a friend request just let me know you're from here. We don't often have room in our parties but if we do I'll shoot you an invite.

This sounds fun. Ryodan, AZCard, Ren, Dude, Goat, Matt, Nyquil, Smoke... ASSEMBLE!!!!!

I knew I'd offend with this. You can take my spot GB.

 

[bshell27]

LOL @ support streaks being OP.Have you ever actually lost a game b/c of a bad player using a support streak? 90% of the complaining I see from good players is just because they get their KS interrupted by something. Last stand is dumb! Ghost is dumb! Support streaks are dumb! etc. Meanwhile they are going 34-4 and winning by a landslide.

Are you advocating second chance/last stand/dead man's hand/martyrdom are not bad? You lose all credibility if you think this is a good idea. They are TERRIBLE. Ghost, if used by someone NOT moving and sitting in a random spot (not near an objective) is dumb.You know how I feel about support. This is distracting from the point of this thread. Argue Blops or MW3 in their respective threads.

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

Ryodan, AZCard, Ren, Dude, Goat, Matt, Nyquil, Smoke... ASSEMBLE!!!!!

Careful. The last time a FFA regular called out an unknown half of the team above flat out embarrased the FFA regulars.

 

[Worm]

LOL @ support streaks being OP.Have you ever actually lost a game b/c of a bad player using a support streak? 90% of the complaining I see from good players is just because they get their KS interrupted by something. Last stand is dumb! Ghost is dumb! Support streaks are dumb! etc. Meanwhile they are going 34-4 and winning by a landslide.

I'll answer your question with a question:Have you ever played a team who ONLY used support streaks? It is OP.

I gave up on MW3 a while ago.

 

[bshell27]

Ryodan, AZCard, Ren, Dude, Goat, Matt, Nyquil, Smoke... ASSEMBLE!!!!!

Careful. The last time a FFA regular called out an unknown half of the team above flat out embarrased the FFA regulars.

That's why I called on the half that did the embarrassing. I didn't call on you because you would never come out of retirement.

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

Ryodan, AZCard, Ren, Dude, Goat, Matt, Nyquil, Smoke... ASSEMBLE!!!!!

Careful. The last time a FFA regular called out an unknown half of the team above flat out embarrased the FFA regulars.

That's why I called on the half that did the embarrassing. I didn't call on you because you would never come out of retirement.

A) I sucked when I played regularly. Don't even want to think about how bad I'd be now. B) You're right.

 

[Worm]

LOL @ support streaks being OP.Have you ever actually lost a game b/c of a bad player using a support streak? 90% of the complaining I see from good players is just because they get their KS interrupted by something. Last stand is dumb! Ghost is dumb! Support streaks are dumb! etc. Meanwhile they are going 34-4 and winning by a landslide.

Are you advocating second chance/last stand/dead man's hand/martyrdom are not bad? You lose all credibility if you think this is a good idea. They are TERRIBLE. Ghost, if used by someone NOT moving and sitting in a random spot (not near an objective) is dumb.You know how I feel about support. This is distracting from the point of this thread. Argue Blops or MW3 in their respective threads.

No, I am not arguing those perks are good. But they are not gamebreaking or OP, just annoying sometimes.

 

[Worm]

Back on topic:

O/U on how many days Worm makes it before quitting in BLOPS2?

 

[bshell27]

A) I sucked when I played regularly. Don't even want to think about how bad I'd be now. B) You're right.

A) You were good. Don't pull the modesty card. B) You will buy Blops 2

 

[bshell27]

Back on topic:O/U on how many days Worm makes it before quitting in BLOPS2?

I really never played with you to be able to make this assessment.

 

[hxperson]

Back on topic:O/U on how many days Worm makes it before quitting in BLOPS2?

I didn't want to go there GB but....5?

 

[Worm]

I think I played MW3 for maybe 3-4 weeks. It was pretty brutal.

 

[bshell27]

Here's my plan, if I can't find a legit CL ad to buy the game early I am NOT going at midnight. I did that for MW3 and didn't even play that night. I cam home and went to bed, it was bad.

Furthermore, I am not reupping for Elite. I would rather give $50 to someone on this board to kick me in the balls before I do that again.

Still trying to work out logistics/cause of action of a class action v. Activision for this one.

 

[Worm]

Back on topic:

O/U on how many days Worm makes it before quitting in BLOPS2?

I didn't want to go there GB but....5?

Oh, did you think I meant rage quitting, like, for the night?O/U on that is about 5 games.