Wrigley
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I did the sameLag issues haven't gone away completely, but at least I'm not penalized (as much) for paying for a decent internet connection.
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COD: Black Ops 3 (1 Viewer)
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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I have that. It's just amazing that one game I shoot a guy and he dies and I crush it and the very next round I'm firing first with an SMG and getting hit markers and still die.The more I think about it, the delay to the lightning strike is bs. If someone is taking a flag, you should be able to call in a LS and save the flag. This delay will make that very tough.
Giant Wooden Badger
the Beav
Well that would explain some things. Good grief.
Spanky267
Footballguy
I second that statement.The 870 sets up so slowly for a second shot that cutting its kill range is not necessary. When you factor in all of the drawbacks you incur by using a pump action shotgun in no way is it OP.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
Bogeys
Footballguy
Disagree. Getting really old to get shot with a shotgun from across the deck in hijacked (as an example) and it be a one shot kill. I don't mind that happening close in, but the range was too far IMO. I hope they nerf the pistols next if they nerfed the SMGs, they are almost as bad. I don't remember any of the other CODs with as many people running around with pistols.I have no objection to nerfing the SMGs, but the 870 was fine the way it was.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Leave my B23R alone!Disagree. Getting really old to get shot with a shotgun from across the deck in hijacked (as an example) and it be a one shot kill. I don't mind that happening close in, but the range was too far IMO. I hope they nerf the pistols next if they nerfed the SMGs, they are almost as bad. I don't remember any of the other CODs with as many people running around with pistols.
Willy
Footballguy
I liked that the bouncing betty go off quickly. In MW3 the betty was totally useless. People had plenty of time to duck, or they'd just run stalker-pro or sitrep.
I guess we'll have to see how much delay they added, but if the delay is like MW3 I won't bother running bouncing betty's anymore. Maybe I'll try grenades and see if I can get any of those magical tosses that always seem to land and blow up at my feet from over buildings and stuff.
I guess we'll have to see how much delay they added, but if the delay is like MW3 I won't bother running bouncing betty's anymore. Maybe I'll try grenades and see if I can get any of those magical tosses that always seem to land and blow up at my feet from over buildings and stuff.
Worm
slimy ninja
First of all, I think you're exaggerating the range of one-hit kills. I never get super long range kills, and rarely get mid-range kills with it. Second, the drawbacks of the gun are so high it's ridiculous to limit it to point blank range.
Bogeys
Footballguy
It isn't always 1 shot kills from that range, but enough that I have said a bad word or 2 when it happens. I am assuming the person is running long barrel as an attachment and it probably is happening at a 25% clip from that range. Maybe it is headshots.
On the second part, while I realize it is a game and not real 
, shotguns are point blank weapons for the most part. I think they should put them back as a secondary and keep them as point blank. I have used them and it is a ton of fun to run around with them (even though I suck at it) and blast people coming around a corner, but my biggest gripes with the game (other than lag/connection issues) has been the shotguns needing nerfed and that #$!%^^!%!!@#$ quickscoping needs to be taken out! 
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
1) Yeah, you can get killed with a shotgun from across the deck on Hijacked, but it would be the KSG with long barrel which shoots a slug and has to be super accurate.
2) And they did nerf the handguns. The BSR and KAP both had their headshot multiplier reduced which means more bullets to kill even with a headshot. Surprised they didn't reduce the range on them as well though.
ETA: The more I think about it, they screwed up nerfing the SMGs. The SMGs aren't the problem; the small cluttered maps just make everyone use SMGs. Nerfing SMGs and reducing idle sway for ARs won't make ARs any more well suited for the small maps and claustrophic maps.
2) And they did nerf the handguns. The BSR and KAP both had their headshot multiplier reduced which means more bullets to kill even with a headshot. Surprised they didn't reduce the range on them as well though.
ETA: The more I think about it, they screwed up nerfing the SMGs. The SMGs aren't the problem; the small cluttered maps just make everyone use SMGs. Nerfing SMGs and reducing idle sway for ARs won't make ARs any more well suited for the small maps and claustrophic maps.
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IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
The reason why you die to shotguns all the time on Hijacked is because it's one of small handful of maps that are basically custom-made for shotguns, so lots of people use them when that map comes up. Try running an 870 on Turbine and see how things go.
Bogeys
Footballguy
I will have to take your word for it since I don't really know 1 shotgun from the other, the only one I have ever used is the first pump action. Didn't know one used a slug, that actually makes sense.Doesn't seem to matter if it is headshots or not with the pistols, the burst or full auto ones seem to do as much damage as the SMGs...will see this weekend I guess.I don't know, the nerfing of my PDW (love the huge mag) may make me go back to the FAL. I loved it but it shot so slow compared to the SMGs that at close range I was losing most of the battles.'GroveDiesel said:
Bogeys
Footballguy
Probably true, just seems like I run into them on every map. They all have tight spots that if you just patrol a small area I could see using a shotgun shouldn't be too bad. Although most of the people I have seen using them are the types to rush so you are probably much more correct than I am.Sheesh, you people are just not good at letting an old man whine about a video game are you?'IvanKaramazov said:
I gave this game another shot after the update but still 
It is definitely tailored to those who are able to run consistently with a group in a league. Public games are basically impossible to play.
I see what they tried to accomplish with all the anti-camp measures they took (99% sure the congested maps would have been enough), but if you play with some donkeys and a stealth chopper / dragonfire is up with a opponent UAV, you are ####ed. At least in old versions, you could hide with a 7 killstreak and blackbird/dogs on deck to help your team come back.
It is definitely tailored to those who are able to run consistently with a group in a league. Public games are basically impossible to play.
I see what they tried to accomplish with all the anti-camp measures they took (99% sure the congested maps would have been enough), but if you play with some donkeys and a stealth chopper / dragonfire is up with a opponent UAV, you are ####ed. At least in old versions, you could hide with a 7 killstreak and blackbird/dogs on deck to help your team come back.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Hardcore kill confirmed. FINALLY.
ren hoek
Footballguy
This game would have been awesome if there was an actual skillgap involved in the gunbattles like Blops1 and WAW. I don't know why they would ever change that.I gave this game another shot after the update but still
I like square dancing with an opponent trying to knife each otherThis game would have been awesome if there was an actual skillgap involved in the gunbattles like Blops1 and WAW. I don't know why they would ever change that.I gave this game another shot after the update but still
Just to let you know in case I disappear from playing Blops on xbox. I have a wager with a couple friends that play Blops 2 on PS3. 2(me and xbrees) versus 2(ps3 friends).
Losers have to trade in console for winners prefferred console. Been trying to get them on Xbox for a while now.
Losers have to trade in console for winners prefferred console. Been trying to get them on Xbox for a while now.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I think the changes make it harder to dominate, not easier. Most guys that put up huge numbers do so with SMGs that can kill very quickly and reload very quickly and are perfect for rushing. These changes make it tougher to put up huge kill numbers, not easier.I think they just did it because almost everyone uses SMGs and some people are mad that ARs and LMGs are useless. But, IMO, that's not fixable by altering gun stats because it's purely a function of map size and design. Nuketown and Firing Range were by far the most popular maps on BO. So Treyarch basically tried to make every map fairly similar to those two maps. There are very few long sight lines in this game.
Been nice playing with you. Have fun on PS3
I love this tip. Anyone know of any other "glitches" (not really glitches, but useful, not well-known things) like this?
NeverEnough
Footballguy
NeverEnough415 on XBL
That's not nice to point out the fact someone masturbates.The lack of party chat on PS3 would drive u nuts if you switch over. Makes me furious every time.ETA: I don't like to play with myself like Ender'R Dizzle said:
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I hadn't seen dogs at all, but then I saw them three times last night, plus a bunch of warthogs, lodestars, and other high-level scorestreaks. Not sure what that was all about . . .
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Card Trader
Footballguy
It's getting easier to hit the high streaks. People know maps, chokepoints and headglitch spots and avoid/exploit them now.
Worm
slimy ninja
Nice. I had a 52 kill game last night... my highest so far. Playing Dom on Hijacked, didn't even get my chopper, just dominated with my shotty.
pollardsvision
Footballguy
Don't remember who was on the other night, but most of them are friends of Outcold, who's on FBG (Chuck Cecil). Bogey's was probably there. gianmarco's on regularly when he doesn't have a newborn in the house. BWWmbassador plays with us from time to time.
Must have been a "blast" using a Shotty.
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jdoggydogg
Footballguy
New to the forum?
ren hoek
Footballguy
"I'll let myself out"
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
I assume it's about twice as fast. If you're a runner like I am, it makes a difference. Obviously, it makes little difference if you're a sniper.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
One thing I really like is that leaderboards and the like make SPM, Captures, Defends, Comfirms, Denies, etc. much more prominent. k/d isn't nearly the same focus anymore and that is a very good thing.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
And I'm becoming increasingly convinced that the probation system was put in place because they knew they had problems with connections / hosting. Deal or don't play mentality.
Worm
slimy ninja
Played in one of the worst games ever last night.
I was partied up with a buddy and we had 4 randoms. We were playing kill confirmed on overkill (overflow?) and got slaughtered. Me and my buddy were both a few kills over .500, in the 25 and 20 range, with about the same amount of confirms as kills. The bottom 3 guys on our team were a combined 22-70 with 14 confirms. So frustrating.
I was partied up with a buddy and we had 4 randoms. We were playing kill confirmed on overkill (overflow?) and got slaughtered. Me and my buddy were both a few kills over .500, in the 25 and 20 range, with about the same amount of confirms as kills. The bottom 3 guys on our team were a combined 22-70 with 14 confirms. So frustrating.
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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Yeah, the only time I bail is when the connection is garbage or there have been a few times where it was clear a guy was cheating somehow.Last night I was in a game where I kept dying on my screen before the other guy even fired his gun. Time to bail when that happens.
SPM is what I look at when comparing player skill. I'm glad that has been implemented as it makes all players worry about things that help the team and not just kills.
I agree. Most of us could have a 5+ k/d if We wanted but our SPM would be low 200.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I'm looking through the Challenges and some of them seem unbelievably hard.
Wet Work: Get 10 kills without dying with no weapons or perks equipped.
Chain Killer: Get a chain of more than 8 rapid kills
Get a kill with every bolt in a crossbow clip
And some of the launchers challenges seem to be screwed up. I killed an AGR last night with the FHJ and didn't get credit for that challenge despite getting credit for killing an AGR under anothe challenge where you have to kill 10 AGRs. I also have kills with the RPG (and have it unlocked) but don't have the points from the RPG Qualified challenge where all you have to do is unlock it.
Wet Work: Get 10 kills without dying with no weapons or perks equipped.
Chain Killer: Get a chain of more than 8 rapid kills
Get a kill with every bolt in a crossbow clip
And some of the launchers challenges seem to be screwed up. I killed an AGR last night with the FHJ and didn't get credit for that challenge despite getting credit for killing an AGR under anothe challenge where you have to kill 10 AGRs. I also have kills with the RPG (and have it unlocked) but don't have the points from the RPG Qualified challenge where all you have to do is unlock it.
