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Collectively, A thread to celebrate our kids Non-Athletic accomplishments. (2 Viewers)

Rusty...One of my sons classmates at Juilard (same HS class) is basically that kid. At best, she gets to play the triangle which seems ridiculous and kinda cruel to me. There have been a couple kids like that over the years who end up leaving on their own... because screw taking the abuse and the that being the payoff. But she's stuck it out (excellent student- perfect SATs) I think because she's using it as college resume fodder.
Yeah, it isn’t ideal for sure, but I think there is a difference in that in this case, it is college, and these are performance majors who will be eventually looking to earn a (probably meager) living. So at some point, I do think it should fall on the faculty to have to be the dream killer and just say “you need to improve here, here, and here or really think about an alternate career path”.

It doesn’t seem like the students have iced this girl out or anything, but I think they are getting frustrated that she gets the kid gloves while the rest of them do get dinged (haha) for the slightest miscue on even the triangle parts. Probably because the conductor knows they will go off and spend hours working towards getting it perfect. The strings and horns get all the glory in the big ensembles as is, so the percussionists do have a little bit of a chip on their shoulders about avoiding getting called out in rehearsal to clean something up.
As a guy with absolutely zero music ability or knowledge it is fascinating to hear the inner workings of something like this. The drama of different instruments getting called out and other's getting the glory is something I never ever thought about. Sounds like a soap opera type existence with villains and heros.

I can identify with the teachers needing to give some hard truths about abilities as that translates quite well to the athletic field. Too many parents/kids don't take that kind of info very well and I am sure that is the same with music.
 
My son is just wrapping up his third week of his first year of middle school. We were a little concerned about him going to middle school since he's on a 504 plan and all, but so far he's doing great. I rarely have to ask him to do his homework and apparently he's gotten A's on all assignments thus far. Hasn't had a test yet, which will be the big determining factor as to how he's really doing, but so far so good.
 
My son is just wrapping up his third week of his first year of middle school. We were a little concerned about him going to middle school since he's on a 504 plan and all, but so far he's doing great. I rarely have to ask him to do his homework and apparently he's gotten A's on all assignments thus far. Hasn't had a test yet, which will be the big determining factor as to how he's really doing, but so far so good.
Awesome!

What's a 504 plan?
 
My son is just wrapping up his third week of his first year of middle school. We were a little concerned about him going to middle school since he's on a 504 plan and all, but so far he's doing great. I rarely have to ask him to do his homework and apparently he's gotten A's on all assignments thus far. Hasn't had a test yet, which will be the big determining factor as to how he's really doing, but so far so good.
Awesome!

What's a 504 plan?
Kind of like an Individualized Education Plan? I didn't know it if was called different things in different states, might be.

Basically, during grammar school he would get irritated if he didn't understand something or was sitting next to a kid that babbled to himself. So the school put him on a program where if he needed some time to reset/unwind (even during a test) he was afforded that opportunity. It actually runs through not only high school but college, if he goes to college in California.

Back when he was in the first couple grades of elementary, he was actually pulled out of class once or twice a day for an hour or two with a smaller group just for more intensive support, especially dealing with socializing with adults and other kids. Probably a product of COVID, but he's doing just fine now.
 
My son is just wrapping up his third week of his first year of middle school. We were a little concerned about him going to middle school since he's on a 504 plan and all, but so far he's doing great. I rarely have to ask him to do his homework and apparently he's gotten A's on all assignments thus far. Hasn't had a test yet, which will be the big determining factor as to how he's really doing, but so far so good.
Awesome!

What's a 504 plan?
Kind of like an Individualized Education Plan? I didn't know it if was called different things in different states, might be.

Basically, during grammar school he would get irritated if he didn't understand something or was sitting next to a kid that babbled to himself. So the school put him on a program where if he needed some time to reset/unwind (even during a test) he was afforded that opportunity. It actually runs through not only high school but college, if he goes to college in California.

Back when he was in the first couple grades of elementary, he was actually pulled out of class once or twice a day for an hour or two with a smaller group just for more intensive support, especially dealing with socializing with adults and other kids. Probably a product of COVID, but he's doing just fine now.
Yeah... IEP in NY.

That's great he gets it. Our kids had some articulation things that qualified them for speech therapy in elementary school. We looked into IEPs, because what a great thing to have somebody there looking out for just your kid... But realized NYC at least had a bigger need for IEPs than for kids with only speech issues- and we were already getting those services.
 
My son is just wrapping up his third week of his first year of middle school. We were a little concerned about him going to middle school since he's on a 504 plan and all, but so far he's doing great. I rarely have to ask him to do his homework and apparently he's gotten A's on all assignments thus far. Hasn't had a test yet, which will be the big determining factor as to how he's really doing, but so far so good.
Awesome!

What's a 504 plan?
Kind of like an Individualized Education Plan? I didn't know it if was called different things in different states, might be.

Basically, during grammar school he would get irritated if he didn't understand something or was sitting next to a kid that babbled to himself. So the school put him on a program where if he needed some time to reset/unwind (even during a test) he was afforded that opportunity. It actually runs through not only high school but college, if he goes to college in California.

Back when he was in the first couple grades of elementary, he was actually pulled out of class once or twice a day for an hour or two with a smaller group just for more intensive support, especially dealing with socializing with adults and other kids. Probably a product of COVID, but he's doing just fine now.
Yeah... IEP in NY.

That's great he gets it. Our kids had some articulation things that qualified them for speech therapy in elementary school. We looked into IEPs, because what a great thing to have somebody there looking out for just your kid... But realized NYC at least had a bigger need for IEPs than for kids with only speech issues- and we were already getting those services.
Yeah so he WAS on an IEP when he first started school but I guess a 504 plan is like an extension of the IEP, less intensive/not as big of a deal. My boy needed some speech (and even physical!) therapy for a year or so.
 
My son is just wrapping up his third week of his first year of middle school. We were a little concerned about him going to middle school since he's on a 504 plan and all, but so far he's doing great. I rarely have to ask him to do his homework and apparently he's gotten A's on all assignments thus far. Hasn't had a test yet, which will be the big determining factor as to how he's really doing, but so far so good.
Awesome!

What's a 504 plan?
Kind of like an Individualized Education Plan? I didn't know it if was called different things in different states, might be.

Basically, during grammar school he would get irritated if he didn't understand something or was sitting next to a kid that babbled to himself. So the school put him on a program where if he needed some time to reset/unwind (even during a test) he was afforded that opportunity. It actually runs through not only high school but college, if he goes to college in California.

Back when he was in the first couple grades of elementary, he was actually pulled out of class once or twice a day for an hour or two with a smaller group just for more intensive support, especially dealing with socializing with adults and other kids. Probably a product of COVID, but he's doing just fine now.
Yeah... IEP in NY.

That's great he gets it. Our kids had some articulation things that qualified them for speech therapy in elementary school. We looked into IEPs, because what a great thing to have somebody there looking out for just your kid... But realized NYC at least had a bigger need for IEPs than for kids with only speech issues- and we were already getting those services.
Yeah so he WAS on an IEP when he first started school but I guess a 504 plan is like an extension of the IEP, less intensive/not as big of a deal. My boy needed some speech (and even physical!) therapy for a year or so.
Yeah, an IEP is what you think of as “traditional” special Ed services and has specific goals, plans, etc. A 504 is accommodations for a disability, but doesn’t have the goals and stuff or as stringent monitoring/review. Could be as simple as “let him take a timeout when needed”, extra time on tests, enlarged print versions of work, etc., but isn’t going to have specialized instruction or any of that. I think 504’s can carry over into college while IEP’s do not.
 
My son is just wrapping up his third week of his first year of middle school. We were a little concerned about him going to middle school since he's on a 504 plan and all, but so far he's doing great. I rarely have to ask him to do his homework and apparently he's gotten A's on all assignments thus far. Hasn't had a test yet, which will be the big determining factor as to how he's really doing, but so far so good.
Awesome!

What's a 504 plan?
Kind of like an Individualized Education Plan? I didn't know it if was called different things in different states, might be.

Basically, during grammar school he would get irritated if he didn't understand something or was sitting next to a kid that babbled to himself. So the school put him on a program where if he needed some time to reset/unwind (even during a test) he was afforded that opportunity. It actually runs through not only high school but college, if he goes to college in California.

Back when he was in the first couple grades of elementary, he was actually pulled out of class once or twice a day for an hour or two with a smaller group just for more intensive support, especially dealing with socializing with adults and other kids. Probably a product of COVID, but he's doing just fine now.
Yeah... IEP in NY.

That's great he gets it. Our kids had some articulation things that qualified them for speech therapy in elementary school. We looked into IEPs, because what a great thing to have somebody there looking out for just your kid... But realized NYC at least had a bigger need for IEPs than for kids with only speech issues- and we were already getting those services.
Yeah so he WAS on an IEP when he first started school but I guess a 504 plan is like an extension of the IEP, less intensive/not as big of a deal. My boy needed some speech (and even physical!) therapy for a year or so.
Yeah, an IEP is what you think of as “traditional” special Ed services and has specific goals, plans, etc. A 504 is accommodations for a disability, but doesn’t have the goals and stuff or as stringent monitoring/review. Could be as simple as “let him take a timeout when needed”, extra time on tests, enlarged print versions of work, etc., but isn’t going to have specialized instruction or any of that. I think 504’s can carry over into college while IEP’s do not.
Correct. From what I've heard/read, the "Autism spectrum" is SO WIDE now that it incorporates all kinds of ... gosh I hate to even use the word, but .... disabilities.

504's do carry over to college, at least in California.
 
I have never heard of it (I am not big with bands), but apparently there is a website that ranks bands and how they perform in competitions. They have a top 32 ranking of bands in the country. The website is https://www.hornrank.com/

I am guessing most of the schools in that list are larger schools. Today in a facebook post they posted the following:

For a mid season treat, some of the HornRank team members who are more familiar with our A and AA bands made a Top Ten list for each of those classes. Obviously the AAA and AAAA classes are usually well represented in our weekly rankings so we wanted to give some love to those in the smaller classes who may not normally make the Top 32.

Enjoy!

#hornranktop10 #smallbands #marchingband

They added a photo with the Top Ten bands in class A and AA which can be found Here. My son's HS band came in 7th in class A. They classify school size by 10-12 while my son's high school is 9-12 as well as the band, but for a school that has approx 500 students in grades 10-12 to have 130 students in band is pretty impressive.
 
Came for the cymbal player, stayed for the whole Mahler 4th Symphony.


Mahler4 CCM

They did this like 3 weeks into classes. Already had another concert tonight that I missed due to a stupid school board meeting, and then turn around and have another one on Halloween that should feature stuff like Night on Bald Mountain. Probably a couple weeks after that she’ll have the percussion ensemble where one of the pieces she is working on is by Frank Zappa, and she is playing in the pit for a musical, then they will switch gears again and start steel band.

It’s a whirlwind, and I”m going to miss it terribly when it’s done. Hopefully she’ll have a free Saturday soon and we can catch a HS band competition - @snellman has me missing those.
 
Floppinhobis head of his HS performing arts club... They have a "coffee house" on friday- organized open mic. He and 13yo floppinha are going to sing a duetwith either him on piano or her on guitar.

First time they'll have ever played together.. and I'm already nostalgic.
 
Came for the cymbal player, stayed for the whole Mahler 4th Symphony.


Mahler4 CCM

They did this like 3 weeks into classes. Already had another concert tonight that I missed due to a stupid school board meeting, and then turn around and have another one on Halloween that should feature stuff like Night on Bald Mountain. Probably a couple weeks after that she’ll have the percussion ensemble where one of the pieces she is working on is by Frank Zappa, and she is playing in the pit for a musical, then they will switch gears again and start steel band.

It’s a whirlwind, and I”m going to miss it terribly when it’s done. Hopefully she’ll have a free Saturday soon and we can catch a HS band competition - @snellman has me missing those.
This is my 3rd year of band competitions. I have never been a music person and I still don't quite understand it, but I enjoy going and watching my son do something he enjoys. It can get a little tiring because it is every Saturday for 6 weeks and all of our competitions are at least 2 hours away because our band directors like to perform in the competitions with larger school bands and harder competition. I think the worst part about it that it is an all day affair. This weekend is our last competition, but starting next weekend we jump right into robotics that goes until March. I am sure I will miss it after next year when he graduates and it is over.
 
all of our competitions are at least 2 hours away because our band directors like to perform in the competitions with larger school bands and harder competition.
What do they base the judging on for these competitions? It seems like it would be impossible to judge to me and really so subjective that it could get frustrating.
 
all of our competitions are at least 2 hours away because our band directors like to perform in the competitions with larger school bands and harder competition.
What do they base the judging on for these competitions? It seems like it would be impossible to judge to me and really so subjective that it could get frustrating.
I honestly have no idea. I know they usually have 4 different judges judging different aspects of the performance. I know for the competition that we hosted last weekend they flew judges in from Texas, California and other states. Here is the link to the finals judges grades for each school for context.
 
My 16 year old just completed his first solo flight in his pilot training. His goal is to be a commercial airline pilot, and we were lucky that our local high school was one of I believe only 2 in the county that actually has an aviation program. He has absolutely loved it. Next steps are to work towards doing the "cross-country" solo which for him is going to be flying from Fullerton to San Diego and back. He chose that as his route, because once he works up and gets cleared for his private license and can have a passenger in the plane, he wants to be able to fly his brother, who attends college in San Diego, back to school.

It is very exciting to not only see your kid have a passion and a dream but to actually see them living it out.
I've never even HEARD of high school aviation training here in the Midwest.

That seems awesome and congrats to your kid.

Thanks - we got real lucky that it is even a program - this year's class (for 3rd year aviation students) is quite literally reading the FAA manual and taking tests on it, which is basically what they need to do fr some of the certifications to be licensed for passengers, etc., so very practical curriculum. Previous years included a lot on understanding the lingo of communicating with the tower, reading weather charts, plotting courses and some simulator work, among many other things.

And he just let me know that weather permitting, Monday is when he will be flying to San Diego with his instructor. I thought he had to get several more hours in, but apparently he is there already.

Latest update - on Monday he passed his private pilot's test which was basically a 4 hour oral exam one on one with the evaluator, followed by about 2 hours of in air testing with the evaluator. He spent countless hours over the last couple of months leading up to the test studying, getting extra hours of flight time, etc. - passing up on going out with friends, etc. to get that studying in. Happy to say that he passed and is an officially licensed pilot that can take passengers.

So, to double down on the nerves of having a kid flying, he went up last night with his first ever passenger - his 13 year old brother. It was one of the most awesome, proud moments I've had while simultaneously being terrifying despite how confident I am in my son's skill, he's still a very new pilot in the grand scheme of things. He was going to take mom up but some weather systems were coming in, so we've postponed that to this weekend. Then hoping that my mother in law will be able to go up with him, as she has been his biggest supporter. She's dealing with some complications from breast cancer treatment, but we are hopeful that she will be able to at least make it for a brief take off, quick pattern and landing.
 
Our son's High School Band marched in the Hollywood Christmas Parade the Saturday after Thanksgiving and at Disney in California the same weekend. We went out to watch them and it was a nice little vacation getaway. We had VIP tickets for the parade, so we sat on the "red carpet" of the parade route across from the announcers.

The parade aired last night on the CW. Watching the parade live and the broadcast last night reiterates how fake Hollywood is:

1) It was more fun watching the TV people screaming at people for leaving the bleachers during the parade, trying to direct the traffic of the parade than it was watching the parade itself.
2) The parade lasted over 3 hours. The show last night was 2 hours
3) Our son's bad was one of the last entries. They got shown on TV for about 25 seconds and didn't even get shown playing their signature song.

Not sure what I was expecting watching the broadcast, but it was definitely more than I watched.
 
They got shown on TV for about 25 seconds and didn't even get shown playing their signature song.
Did they play their signature song while they were passing the filmed portion of the parade? I would assume that what goes on TV is the stretch of parade directly in front of the announcers so they can comment on what they are seeing and that is what gets televised. If they didn't play their signature song during that stretch of the parade it makes sense that it wasn't on TV. Seems like bad planning on the bands organizer. I would have though that the band would have been informed about what portion would be filmed and on TV so they could plan accordingly (but maybe I am way off base).

Hopefully everyone had a great time regardless. Sounds like a great experience regardless.
 
They got shown on TV for about 25 seconds and didn't even get shown playing their signature song.
Did they play their signature song while they were passing the filmed portion of the parade? I would assume that what goes on TV is the stretch of parade directly in front of the announcers so they can comment on what they are seeing and that is what gets televised. If they didn't play their signature song during that stretch of the parade it makes sense that it wasn't on TV. Seems like bad planning on the bands organizer. I would have though that the band would have been informed about what portion would be filmed and on TV so they could plan accordingly (but maybe I am way off base).

Hopefully everyone had a great time regardless. Sounds like a great experience regardless.
They played it the whole time they were on the "Red carpet" part of the parade. TV happened to show the short amount of time between playing. They didn't even show the whole band. Almost 25% of the high school population is involved in band, giving them 120 members.

It was a great time regardless and the kids had fun despite our son losing his glasses the first day of the trip at Disneyland, lol. We really enjoyed our trip to watch them as well, especially the warmer weather.
 
KanilJr (8th grade) decided to do Lego Robotics Club this year. This is the first year his school has ever done it, and I honestly think he only joined because of a girl. The club is open to all 6th-8th grade and ended up with three teams worth of kids. His team voted him team captain (and luckily for him, the girl he likes ended up on his team). There were two teachers that ran the club who were also first timers in the program, so it was new for everyone.

They are given about 2 months of "club" to design and build their robot and prep for the tournament. Unfortunately, they somehow erased all of their code 10 days before the tournament began and had to start from scratch. They put in extra time during lunches and after school to get back into fighting shape and finished the day before the tournament.

They had their first competition and for those who don't know how it works, it was actually pretty interesting. The students don't know what the course or challenges are going to be until they arrive that day. They are then shown the course and given a specific allotment of time to program the robot, test it on a practice course, and adjust. You get three timed and scored runs on the challenge course with time to adjust between each round. There was also a presentation piece beforehand to describe their club experience and explain how they'd prepared. That presentation was judged and added to your "challenge course" score.

The day of the tournament was impressive. It lasted about 7 hours from start to finish and the way the people ran it was very coordinated and efficient. It was crazy to see the setups some of these other schools had compared to his. Some teams had 30ish different "modules" they could add/remove from their robot to handle specific obstacles/challenges. His team's robot was very used, and one side's wheels went faster than the other side's due to some issue with the motor. Before they could even start working on setting up their robot, they had to calculate exactly how far it turned so they could lower the power to one set of wheels to keep it in a straight line.

At the end of the day, out of 32 teams, his team finished ninth. He was happy they did so well with the issues they had with losing their code and it being their first time. Along with the fact they beat the two other teams who finished 10th and 26th.

Afterwards, we tried to give him credit for captaining the team and his response was that he had the "two smartest people in the school on our team which made it easy". He also said he really didn't do anything outside of work on the presentation because the other people on his team were either better than him at a needed task or really wanted to work on a specific task. In the past, he's been the kid that has a hard time if things aren't done his way, so we were happily surprised by that answer.

The best part was lessons learned. When we asked him what the biggest thing he learned from his experience was, he said, "Back up your code!". Coming from a guy who has spent his whole career in IT, truer words have never been spoken.
 
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KanilJr (8th grade) decided to do Lego Robotics Club this year. This is the first year his school has ever done it, and I honestly think he only joined because of a girl. The club is open to all 6th-8th grade and ended up with three teams worth of kids. His team voted him team captain (and luckily for him, the girl he likes ended up on his team). There were two teachers that ran the club who were also first timers in the program, so it was new for everyone.

They are given about 2 months of "club" to design and build their robot and prep for the tournament. Unfortunately, they somehow erased all of their code 10 days before the tournament began and had to start from scratch. They put in extra time during lunches and after school to get back into fighting shape and finished the day before the tournament.

They had their first competition and for those who don't know how it works, it was actually pretty interesting. The students don't know what the course or challenges are going to be until they arrive that day. They are then shown the course and given a specific allotment of time to program the robot, test it on a practice course, and adjust. You get three timed and scored runs on the challenge course with time to adjust between each round. There was also a presentation piece beforehand to describe their club experience and explain how they'd prepared. That presentation was judged and added to your "challenge course" score.

The day of the tournament was impressive. It lasted about 7 hours from start to finish and the way the people ran it was very coordinated and efficient. It was crazy to see the setups some of these other schools had compared to his. Some teams had 30ish different "modules" they could add/remove from their robot to handle specific obstacles/challenges. His team's robot was very used, and one side's wheels went faster than the other side's due to some issue with the motor. Before they could even start working on setting up their robot, they had to calculate exactly how far it turned so they could lower the power to one set of wheels to keep it in a straight line.

At the end of the day, out of 32 teams, his team finished ninth. He was happy they did so well with the issues they had with losing their code and it being their first time. Along with the fact they beat the two other teams who finished 10th and 26th.

Afterwards, we tried to give him credit for captaining the team and his response was that he had the "two smartest people in the school on our team which made it easy". He also said he really didn't do anything outside of work on the presentation because the other people on his team were either better than him at a needed task or really wanted to work on a specific task. In the past, he's been the kid that has a hard time if things aren't done his way, so we were happily surprised by that answer.

The best part was lessons learned. When we asked him what the biggest thing he learned from his experience was, he said, "Back up your code!". Coming from a guy who has spent his whole career in IT, truer words have never been spoken.
Very glad to hear. Our school doesn't have a lego robotics program, but it does have a high school robotics program. When our son was a freshman it was only the 2nd year of the program. It has been a very good thing for him to be involved in. It has grown at an exponential rate. It started the first year with 1 team and now in its 4 year, there are 4 teams and with the number of students in the program there should realistically 5-6 teams. The bolded is one of the the best parts of the program that I have seen. We try to donate as much to the program as possible, because the school doesn't fund a whole lot for it and it is a very expensive "hobby" or sport.
 
It's nothing all that big... but my first child is amazing - finished 22nd in the national spelling bee just based on vibes (studied a total of 40 hours I'd say, most of those kids study 40 hours per week), got a full scholarship, now in law school... just a brilliant person. My second child is a less accomplished, but is probably just as smart as the first... or at least has the confidence that he is. He just had ADD and was miserable in school and is finding other paths in life. If he's curious about a topic, he'll read and watch everything on the topic and give us monologues.

My third... always thought of himself as dumber than the others. I think he's less on the spectrum (first is diagnosed with *** burgers, second likely will be someday) and has never just dug into a topic down to the bedrock the way the others did. He's always been more of a generalist, doing fine in school but never really caring about the topics much or doing any learning out of school. He just assumed he was dumber than the other kids, and it comes out at times when he's frustrated about something.

Anyway, third kid took the ACT and got the same score as first kid. It's changed his self-image and I'm so happy for him.
 
Our son's robotics team had their league championship today. Their school has so many kids interested in robotics that they have 4 teams. For the 2nd year in a row, all 4 teams made it to the state championship.
 
My daughter just won her all-school (K-8) spelling bee as a 4th grader (she's 9). Pretty amazing to watch it unfold. Out of about a dozen kids, there were four girls. After a few rounds, they were down to seven, and she was the last girl "standing." I thought that was quite the accomplishment on its own. Then, she got down to the final five, the rest of which were all 7th and 8th graders. Then, the final three. Then two. We were all in shock when she actually won! Super proud moment for me.

To put this in context, her older brother won at the same school as a 5th grader. He then went on to win at his 6th through 8th grade middle school in 6th grade (at a school of almost 900 kids). So, I guess it's in the genes, to some extent. Still, I didn't expect her to win as a 4th grader. But, she's competitive, and probably wanted to out-do her brother. She was up until 10:30 last night, asking me to read her the practice words, then asked if she could get up at 6:00 this morning (about an hour early) to practice some more. Her brother was reading her words in the car this morning on the way to school.

Two years ago, he (older brother) went on to the Ventura County Spelling Bee and finished 11th in the county (again, competing with mostly 7th/8th grade kids as a 5th grader). Finished 11th there. The winner of that got an all-expense paid trip to D.C. with their family to compete on the big show (ESPN). Even the County Bee was pretty nice... Our whole family got to attend for the day, with lunch and a bunch of other goodies, etc. Pretty cool just to be a part of it, and see how it plays out.
 
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My daughter just won her all-school (K-8) spelling bee as a 4th grader (she's 9). Pretty amazing to watch it unfold. Out of about a dozen kids, there were four girls. After a few rounds, they were down to seven, and she was the last girl "standing." I thought that was quite the accomplishment on its own. Then, she got down to the final five, the rest of which were all 7th and 8th graders. Then, the final three. Then two. We were all in shock when she actually won! Super proud moment for me.

To put this in context, her older brother won at the same school as a 5th grader. He then went on to win at his 6th through 8th grade middle school in 6th grade (at a school of almost 900 kids). So, I guess it's in the genes, to some extent. Still, I didn't expect her to win as a 4th grader. But, she's competitive, and probably wanted to out-do her brother. She was up until 10:30 last night, asking me to read her the practice words, then asked if she could get up at 6:00 this morning (after an hour early) to practice some more. Her brother was reading her words in the car this morning on the way to school.

Two years ago, he (older brother) went on to the Ventura County Spelling Bee and finished 11th in the county (again, competing with mostly 7th/8th grade kids as a 5th grader). Finished 11th there. The winner of that got an all-expense paid trip to D.C. with their family to compete on the big show (ESPN). Even the County Bee was pretty nice... Our whole family got to attend for the day, with lunch and a bunch of other goodies, etc. Pretty cool just to be a part of it, and see how it plays out.
do the kids train/practice for these like I've seen the big-show kids do (where it's all-consuming)?
or are they just really, really good at spelling?
 
Love this thread!

My son was just accepted into the University of Madison Engineering program, a notoriously tough program to be accepted into. He is in his final semester of HS and still has a 4.0 GPA, while taking all advanced/college prep classes. Kid worked his butt off for it, too. My other two boys are more naturally gifted in school, but my oldest put in the work. I always stressed to them that I'm more proud when they work for something, regardless of the outcome, than when they do well without effort.

It's also great to hear over and over from his teachers that he's such a great person. At his cross country postseason party they gave out their first ever college scholarship. Even though my son was one of the slowest on the team, he won the scholarship to the cheers of the entire team. The coach said, "I can't think of a better, more deserving person of this award." It would be cool if he was one of the better runners on the team, but I'll take this over that any day.
 
My daughter just won her all-school (K-8) spelling bee as a 4th grader (she's 9). Pretty amazing to watch it unfold. Out of about a dozen kids, there were four girls. After a few rounds, they were down to seven, and she was the last girl "standing." I thought that was quite the accomplishment on its own. Then, she got down to the final five, the rest of which were all 7th and 8th graders. Then, the final three. Then two. We were all in shock when she actually won! Super proud moment for me.

To put this in context, her older brother won at the same school as a 5th grader. He then went on to win at his 6th through 8th grade middle school in 6th grade (at a school of almost 900 kids). So, I guess it's in the genes, to some extent. Still, I didn't expect her to win as a 4th grader. But, she's competitive, and probably wanted to out-do her brother. She was up until 10:30 last night, asking me to read her the practice words, then asked if she could get up at 6:00 this morning (after an hour early) to practice some more. Her brother was reading her words in the car this morning on the way to school.

Two years ago, he (older brother) went on to the Ventura County Spelling Bee and finished 11th in the county (again, competing with mostly 7th/8th grade kids as a 5th grader). Finished 11th there. The winner of that got an all-expense paid trip to D.C. with their family to compete on the big show (ESPN). Even the County Bee was pretty nice... Our whole family got to attend for the day, with lunch and a bunch of other goodies, etc. Pretty cool just to be a part of it, and see how it plays out.
do the kids train/practice for these like I've seen the big-show kids do (where it's all-consuming)?
or are they just really, really good at spelling?
I would say it's definitely a combination of both. My understanding is each class at her K-8 school (which is relatively small, about 310 kids total) sends a representative who won from that classroom's spelling bee. So, depending on the size of the grade, a kid or two (or maybe 3) per grade. I think the youngest kid at her school's bee was from 3rd grade, and the oldest were 8th grade, and there were about 12-15 total when it started this morning. Took about a dozen rounds to determine a winner. Once they advanced from their individual class (about a week ago), they were all given a list of words to study. About 500 words total, of various levels of difficulty, split up onto 4 pages. First page were easier words, then gradually harder. And, a strange assortment of words. Several proper nouns, which seems odd to me... Words like Choctaws, Canterbury, Chernobyl, San Joaquin, Madagascar, etc. And, several words with multiple spellings (gruesome/grewsome, plaque/placque, etc.).

They had a few days to study those words. My daughter also plays soccer, and had practice every night this week (don't get me started.... that's a topic for the club sports thread). But, needless to say, time to study the words was limited. We spent about 30-45 minutes practicing on Monday and Wednesday evenings (Tuesday night she fell asleep on the couch at like 730, obviously exhausted, so I just put her to bed). Last night, probably another hour, and maybe 20-30 minutes this morning. Hard to say if that practice helped (most of the words she got in the actual spelling bee today I feel like she would have known regardless). That said, there is some luck to the draw. Another kid got knocked out on a word she originally got wrong when we practiced, so there's that. The practice certainly didn't hurt.

Now that she won for her school, she's been given a much larger list (it's a small book) of words to practice from. From what I recall when her brother went, it's a big enough list that you can't really "perfect" the entire list. Even the 500-word list, she was getting several words incorrect when we went through them this morning. Most of those, though, were on the last page and a half, and I'm not sure they ever got to that level of difficulty during the competition. As for the book she received today, it feels like the objective is to "study as much of it as you can" in the next couple of weeks. At that point, she'll take a test on both spelling and comprehension (what the words mean) that is multiple choice. Not sure why that's included, but it's part of the process. So, not just spelling. Based on those test results, she may or may not advance to the county bee like her brother did two years ago.

Bottom line... They're all good spellers. But, they have an opportunity to practice and increase their chances of advancing further in the competition. That said, there are so many words out there, you can't possibly memorize them all. And, there is some element of luck, for sure, in terms of getting the right words thrown your way.

Edit: I will add this, after having watched the county spelling bee, and seeing the winner who went on to compete in DC (ESPN). For some of those kids, they're definitely taking it more seriously, almost as if they're in training for an Olympic sport. You could just tell that it's their "sport" so to speak. And, I don't mean that in a negative way. Good for them. And, the grand prize, just from the county bee, was no joke.... Not just the trip for the family, but a whole bunch of other stuff ($500 Amazon card, new I-pad, etc.). It was impressive.

And, to be honest, that's part of the reason I'm so proud of my kids. Spelling isn't their sport. My son plays club baseball and is a pretty good pitcher. My 9YO daughter is playing travel soccer with 10-11 year olds. But, they're pretty good at spelling too, and I'm enjoying it while it lasts (my older daughter, who is 14, is great at spelling herself, but she's at the age where it's "not cool" to be good at spelling). :rolleyes::lol:
 
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My daughter just won her all-school (K-8) spelling bee as a 4th grader (she's 9). Pretty amazing to watch it unfold. Out of about a dozen kids, there were four girls. After a few rounds, they were down to seven, and she was the last girl "standing." I thought that was quite the accomplishment on its own. Then, she got down to the final five, the rest of which were all 7th and 8th graders. Then, the final three. Then two. We were all in shock when she actually won! Super proud moment for me.

To put this in context, her older brother won at the same school as a 5th grader. He then went on to win at his 6th through 8th grade middle school in 6th grade (at a school of almost 900 kids). So, I guess it's in the genes, to some extent. Still, I didn't expect her to win as a 4th grader. But, she's competitive, and probably wanted to out-do her brother. She was up until 10:30 last night, asking me to read her the practice words, then asked if she could get up at 6:00 this morning (after an hour early) to practice some more. Her brother was reading her words in the car this morning on the way to school.

Two years ago, he (older brother) went on to the Ventura County Spelling Bee and finished 11th in the county (again, competing with mostly 7th/8th grade kids as a 5th grader). Finished 11th there. The winner of that got an all-expense paid trip to D.C. with their family to compete on the big show (ESPN). Even the County Bee was pretty nice... Our whole family got to attend for the day, with lunch and a bunch of other goodies, etc. Pretty cool just to be a part of it, and see how it plays out.
do the kids train/practice for these like I've seen the big-show kids do (where it's all-consuming)?
or are they just really, really good at spelling?
I would say it's definitely a combination of both. My understanding is each class at her K-8 school (which is relatively small, about 310 kids total) sends a representative who won from that classroom's spelling bee. So, depending on the size of the grade, a kid or two (or maybe 3) per grade. I think the youngest kid at her school's bee was from 3rd grade, and the oldest were 8th grade, and there were about 12-15 total when it started this morning. Took about a dozen rounds to determine a winner. Once they advanced from their individual class (about a week ago), they were all given a list of words to study. About 500 words total, of various levels of difficulty, split up onto 4 pages. First page were easier words, then gradually harder. And, a strange assortment of words. Several proper nouns, which seems odd to me... Words like Choctaws, Canterbury, Chernobyl, San Joaquin, Madagascar, etc. And, several words with multiple spellings (gruesome/grewsome, plaque/placque, etc.).

They had a few days to study those words. My daughter also plays soccer, and had practice every night this week (don't get me started.... that's a topic for the club sports thread). But, needless to say, time to study the words was limited. We spent about 30-45 minutes practicing on Monday and Wednesday evenings (Tuesday night she fell asleep on the couch at like 730, obviously exhausted, so I just put her to bed). Last night, probably another hour, and maybe 20-30 minutes this morning. Hard to say if that practice helped (most of the words she got in the actual spelling bee today I feel like she would have known regardless). That said, there is some luck to the draw. Another kid got knocked out on a word she originally got wrong when we practiced, so there's that. The practice certainly didn't hurt.

Now that she won for her school, she's been given a much larger list (it's a small book) of words to practice from. From what I recall when her brother went, it's a big enough list that you can't really "perfect" the entire list. Even the 500-word list, she was getting several words incorrect when we went through them this morning. Most of those, though, were on the last page and a half, and I'm not sure they ever got to that level of difficulty during the competition. As for the book she received today, it feels like the objective is to "study as much of it as you can" in the next couple of weeks. At that point, she'll take a test on both spelling and comprehension (what the words mean) that is multiple choice. Not sure why that's included, but it's part of the process. So, not just spelling. Based on those test results, she may or may not advance to the county bee like her brother did two years ago.

Bottom line... They're all good spellers. But, they have an opportunity to practice and increase their chances of advancing further in the competition. That said, there are so many words out there, you can't possibly memorize them all. And, there is some element of luck, for sure, in terms of getting the right words thrown your way.

Edit: I will add this, after having watched the county spelling bee, and seeing the winner who went on to compete in DC (ESPN). For some of those kids, they're definitely taking it more seriously, almost as if they're in training for an Olympic sport. You could just tell that it's their "sport" so to speak. And, I don't mean that in a negative way. Good for them. And, the grand prize, just from the county bee, was no joke.... Not just the trip for the family, but a whole bunch of other stuff ($500 Amazon card, new I-pad, etc.). It was impressive.

And, to be honest, that's part of the reason I'm so proud of my kids. Spelling isn't their sport. My son plays club baseball and is a pretty good pitcher. My 9YO daughter is playing travel soccer with 10-11 year olds. But, they're pretty good at spelling too, and I'm enjoying it while it lasts (my older daughter, who is 14, is great at spelling herself, but she's at the age where it's "not cool" to be good at spelling). :rolleyes::lol:
Locally, there was a kid in our district who was one of the kids whose entire family was oriented around the spelling bee. A whole training regimen - this was the apex of his life. When my daughter beat him to make it to the regionals, he was devastated, and his parents were grilling us about how we prepared our daughter. Uh... she read the little pamphlet of words a few times and didn't ask us for help? I don't know, man - this isn't something she cares about, she's just good at it.

After she won regionals, she studied - I remember spending a super long airport layover prompting her from the pamphlet. She spent somewhere in the 24-48 hour range studying. When we got to DC for nationals, the families were insane. All their conversations were about how much their kids had trained and the systems they used to prepare. Just years and years of that being their life's focus.

Here was the thread from 2017: https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/at-the-spelling-bee.727740/

The kid she beat in our district did make it to nationals the next year, though he didn't place as highly as she did.
 
Not sure of how big of a deal it is, but our son found out over Christmas break that he qualified to apply for the school's National Honor Society Chapter. He didn't give us much info on it, but I do know that he had to write an essay and had to get letters of recommendation from faculty. We found out this last week that he was accepted.

Does anyone have any experience with this? We have never had any of our other kids get invited, so this is a whole new territory for this. I am assuming it will look well on college applications, but I am sure there are plenty of other kids in the country that are part of it, so it may be watered down some. He is a junior, but he doesn't even really know what he wants to pursue as an occupation yet, so we have a long way to go.
 
Not sure of how big of a deal it is, but our son found out over Christmas break that he qualified to apply for the school's National Honor Society Chapter. He didn't give us much info on it, but I do know that he had to write an essay and had to get letters of recommendation from faculty. We found out this last week that he was accepted.

Does anyone have any experience with this? We have never had any of our other kids get invited, so this is a whole new territory for this. I am assuming it will look well on college applications, but I am sure there are plenty of other kids in the country that are part of it, so it may be watered down some. He is a junior, but he doesn't even really know what he wants to pursue as an occupation yet, so we have a long way to go.
My son was in the National Junior Honor Society in 8th grade and then the NHS in high school. I believe the invites are based on grades and then you have to do the essay/recommendations etc to get in. I think once you are in you have to maintain a certain GPA and do certain number of volunteer hours per year to maintain your inclusion. If you stay in it for a certain amount of time you get a special sash to year at graduation.

Then it's something to put on applications when applying to college.
 
My son was in his final HS Musical over the weekend. He was the wolf in Into the Woods.

My wife, as she always does, posted a clip on IG for friends and family on Tues with a couple hashtags including show name and "musical theater".

She looked last night to see who'd checked in of our usual 50-100 folk... 45,000 views. This morning 55k. No idea what happened, but this is our first taste of viral.
 
On my way to my son's last Juilliard percussion ensemble featuring Stuart Copeland.

Unfortunately the teachers bogarted the piece he commissioned for them. I thought my son, as their best person on a kit, would get featured...say lah vee.

Still psyched to Copeland and bitter sweet to see maybe the last ensemble performance of my son's life. I'm sure he'll keep performing I college, just not sure it will be percussion ensemble stuff.
 
On my way to my son's last Juilliard percussion ensemble featuring Stuart Copeland.

Unfortunately the teachers bogarted the piece he commissioned for them. I thought my son, as their best person on a kit, would get featured...say lah vee.

Still psyched to Copeland and bitter sweet to see maybe the last ensemble performance of my son's life. I'm sure he'll keep performing I college, just not sure it will be percussion ensemble stuff.
Copeland spoke to the group for about 30 mins before the performances and then hung around to talk to whoever wanted to.

He talked about "orcs" ( :lol: ), orchestral musicians who use their vision for music (reading the music, watching conductor, etc) compared to rock or jazz musicians who use their ears...knowing a basic framework or chord progression and then playing what sounds right. Each with their own positive qualities.

He also talked about the historical impact of music...homo sapiens communing around a fire banging on stuff, singing and dancing/moving. That brought up a "shamanistic" element to playing...that you're performing, not just playing something.

My wife and I kicked each other, because floppinho is the only kid in that group who rocks out when he's playing. A sea of motionless, blacksuited orchestra, and one tall goofy kid in the back basically thrashing out.

I bum rushed Copeland while he talking talking to some college age drummers after the show and quickly thanked him, explained who my son was (and how much the shaman idea spoke to my wife and me) and gave his commissioned piece some deserved praise. I didn't want to take valuable time away from young drummers who could get much more valuable talk with him, so left him alone after that.

Ended up riding the elevator down with just him andy wofe joking about different stuff. I quoted spinal tap, and he said "I'm not joking- we went through every single one of those things!". I asked how it went opening for a puppet show... The guy could not have been nicer or more gracious (with his time and energy) . Just a super cool dude.

The concert...It was an amazing night of really cool pieces that weren't completely esoteric and crazy (they played a Phillip Glass piece!) like every other one over the past 4 years. I loved it..and I found myself bawling during the second piece- realizing it was the last time, seeing how much joy my son takes from it, and oddly (in that moment) really missing my mom.
 
This was from earlier in the school year, and I was hoping they’d have last weeks steel band concert up, but here’s my kiddo’s percussion ensemble playing some Zappa.

Black Page 1 and 2
I had a Zappa tune in my MaD mallet rock list
It’s on my to-do list. I caught a bunch of them as they were revealed but am working on going through whole lists 1-31. I need to spring for the premium Spotify- each list takes roughly 2 days with the ads…
 

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