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The following is part of a note sent yesterday from the college counseling office to the seniors at my son's school, as ED/EA response season nears. A good reminder on humility and perspective.

Gentlemen-

Here are a few things to consider as we head into December. Please read through this email in its entirety--it's a long but important read:

1) Most of you will receive early application decisions over the next few weeks. Please remember that the way you process this news not only affects you but has an impact on those around you. Many of you will be thrilled with your outcomes and will quite naturally wish to share your great news with your friends and those of us at school who are also so excited for you. At the same time, a number of your classmates, perhaps including you, may be disappointed.

As a community, we pride ourselves on the fact that we care about one another and are sensitive to each other’s feelings. This is particularly true at times of intense emotion. As you receive responses, please understand that your worth is not measured in college admissions decisions, it is measured in the way we treat each other. We are here to support you through the rest of this year, in the same way that we have worked with you for the past year. If needed, we will be ready to help you pivot and embrace a new set of options in the next application stage.

We are still in the middle of this journey in which you are all making great progress. Please remember that most students will be making their college decisions in the spring of their senior year. Knowing you both collectively and individually, we trust that you will proceed through the next weeks with sensitivity and balance. We hope that you will also do so keeping the big picture, of which this is just one tiny dot, in mind.
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Oh, and an update on my daughter: She ended up 3 for 3 on college acceptances where she applied:  Washington State, Oregon State and Colorado State - All zoology major schools. She's pretty sure that she'll go to CSU but we're waiting to hear what kind of merit scholarship OSU gives her. She never even applied to her "reach" schools (UVM, San Diego State) since CSU and OSU were her two top choices based on location.

 
Workhorse said:
Oh, and an update on my daughter: She ended up 3 for 3 on college acceptances where she applied:  Washington State, Oregon State and Colorado State - All zoology major schools. She's pretty sure that she'll go to CSU but we're waiting to hear what kind of merit scholarship OSU gives her. She never even applied to her "reach" schools (UVM, San Diego State) since CSU and OSU were her two top choices based on location.
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I have a friend who's a curator for zoos... can reach out when the time comes if she needs an in.

 
Nigel said:
The following is part of a note sent yesterday from the college counseling office to the seniors at my son's school, as ED/EA response season nears. A good reminder on humility and perspective.
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My daughter was fortunate enough to receive acceptances from some elite schools and I spent so much time reminding her not to celebrate in front of friends that I believe I somewhat spoiled the experience. I definitely went overboard.  :(

 
MindCrime said:
First acceptance email came today, and for his current top choice of schools! Huge weight lifted from his shoulders. Still going to weigh his options, and finalizing a few more applications, but it looks like he’ll be majoring in Forensic Science- Biochemistry BS at UCF. 
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2/2. USF acceptance came yesterday. Super proud, now he has his top 2 choices to pick from.

 
Little Foosette got her first acceptance letter Yesterday (Northern Iowa), it's going to be a long wait until April when Cal Poly makes their decisions, but Northern Iowa has a program for her so it's good to have one in the bank.

 
My wife has sufficiently dampened my daughter's desire to leave the Midwest for school (wife didn't want her far enough away that flights were necessary) so we only toured about half the Big 10 and Illinois State. 

Applications went out to Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, Indiana, and Illinois State. Indiana, Iowa and Illinois State do rolling acceptance so she's been accepted to those three, but Madison is her number 1. Unfortunately as I understand it she will get exactly zero merit aid from Wisconsin, so we're crossing our fingers for Iowa (which she also loved). Iowa already came at us with $8k merit aid so we're very proud of her hard work.

I was also pleased to see the link sent to us about further scholarship opportunities that Iowa has. My daughter has applied for all that she's eligible (going in as and English/writing major). A little more help from any of these and we may just have the equivalent to in-state tuition at University of Illinois, which would be fantastic.

Thanks to all for sharing their experiences in here. It's quite overwhelming for the first-time parent.

 
If anyone has a kid applying early decision to NYU, even though they aren't announcing results until Wednesday, there are apparently a couple of tricks that the internet has uncovered to figure out what the results are ahead of time.  Can't vouch for their accuracy, but my daughter has three friends who applied ED there, and both tricks are indicating that one of them made it and the other two probably didn't.

 
zoobird said:
If anyone has a kid applying early decision to NYU, even though they aren't announcing results until Wednesday, there are apparently a couple of tricks that the internet has uncovered to figure out what the results are ahead of time.  Can't vouch for their accuracy, but my daughter has three friends who applied ED there, and both tricks are indicating that one of them made it and the other two probably didn't.
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@-fish-

 
zoobird said:
If anyone has a kid applying early decision to NYU, even though they aren't announcing results until Wednesday, there are apparently a couple of tricks that the internet has uncovered to figure out what the results are ahead of time.  Can't vouch for their accuracy, but my daughter has three friends who applied ED there, and both tricks are indicating that one of them made it and the other two probably didn't.
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Three years ago I was the only one in my household who knew ahead of time that a rejection was coming for my daughter at her #1. I'd registered for a service that gave me a sneak peak at the postage on the letter that was due to arrive the next day, and it was lighter than the acceptance letters. I kept it to myself, but subtly prepped her for defeat. It sucked. 

 
Nigel said:
Three years ago I was the only one in my household who knew ahead of time that a rejection was coming for my daughter at her #1. I'd registered for a service that gave me a sneak peak at the postage on the letter that was due to arrive the next day, and it was lighter than the acceptance letters. I kept it to myself, but subtly prepped her for defeat. It sucked. 
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That sucks.  The results are given online now, so the days of analyzing envelope thickness are over.  But whoever is managing NYU's website apparently hasn't considered some aspects of user interface/user flow changes that are being triggered by the acceptances.  

That said...if anyone knows any tricks for Cornell, I don't want to know until after tonight at 7pm ET when they make the results available.

 
zoobird said:
That sucks.  The results are given online now, so the days of analyzing envelope thickness are over.  But whoever is managing NYU's website apparently hasn't considered some aspects of user interface/user flow changes that are being triggered by the acceptances.  

That said...if anyone knows any tricks for Cornell, I don't want to know until after tonight at 7pm ET when they make the results available.
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Good luck!

 
zoobird said:
If anyone has a kid applying early decision to NYU, even though they aren't announcing results until Wednesday, there are apparently a couple of tricks that the internet has uncovered to figure out what the results are ahead of time.  Can't vouch for their accuracy, but my daughter has three friends who applied ED there, and both tricks are indicating that one of them made it and the other two probably didn't.
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Want to send me a pm?   Thanks.

 
Ugh.... where do I start? Page one of this thread or is there a concise post to get us going?

ETA - Both girls have above average grades but nothing exceptional. They have what I would consider a healthy balance of school and a social life. Thats not going to get them into Brown, but my hope is they go away to school. A place like Wisconsin would be a dream. 

 
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STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
Ugh.... where do I start? Page one of this thread or is there a concise post to get us going?

ETA - Both girls have above average grades but nothing exceptional. They have what I would consider a healthy balance of school and a social life. Thats not going to get them into Brown, but my hope is they go away to school. A place like Wisconsin would be a dream. 
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Wisconsin is fantastic. With that said, I hope you either live in Wisconsin or have a sizable bankroll.

 
Battersbox said:
Wisconsin is fantastic. With that said, I hope you either live in Wisconsin or have a sizable bankroll.
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HOLY MOLY! In state resident $10k. Out of state $38k.

:sadbanana:  

How long do I need to live there? ETA - 12 months???? Shiiiiiiit. Ill buy a condo and ship her out there a year ahead and she can work for a year. 

 
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Im not advocating for this but my buddies kid was "homeless" and basically didn't pay a dime for school. She graduates this year. 

How is that even right? Couldn't every kid claim to  be homeless at 18? 

 
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STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
HOLY MOLY! In state resident $10k. Out of state $38k.

:sadbanana:  

How long do I need to live there? ETA - 12 months???? Shiiiiiiit. Ill buy a condo and ship her out there a year ahead and she can work for a year. 
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It takes a lot. They've really cracked down on it...I would guess you would need to change your official residence there for at least a year, pay bills, pay state income tax, etc. Then, if your daughter is still a resident of another state and graduating hs in that state, you'd still have issues getting in-state tuition.

 
Battersbox said:
It takes a lot. They've really cracked down on it...I would guess you would need to change your official residence there for at least a year, pay bills, pay state income tax, etc. Then, if your daughter is still a resident of another state and graduating hs in that state, you'd still have issues getting in-state tuition.
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Why do I need to do any of that if she is an adult at 18? Wouldnt she just need to rent and live in state for 12 months prior to applying? 

 
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Whats funny is I dont even know anything about Wisconsin other than I used them in NCAA football in like 2005. I rooted for them when that Frank Kaminski kid was there.

"Wisconsin" is just the school I always said to my kids when I really just meant Any school that isnt on the east coast. I swear to god I have the most expensive taste of any human. EVERYTHING I like is always the most rare, most expensive, etc.. I dont even have to try. Its awful!

 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
Why do I need to do any of that if she is an adult at 18? Wouldnt she just need to rent and live in state for 12 months prior to applying? 
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For better or worse, your children are absolutely tied to you and your financial situation when it comes to how much they'll need to pay to go to school.

 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
Whats funny is I dont even know anything about Wisconsin other than I used them in NCAA football in like 2005. I rooted for them when that Frank Kaminski kid was there.

"Wisconsin" is just the school I always said to my kids when I really just meant Any school that isnt on the east coast. I swear to god I have the most expensive taste of any human. EVERYTHING I like is always the most rare, most expensive, etc.. I dont even have to try. Its awful!
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Wisconsin really is a fantastic public university. After Michigan and perhaps Illinois & Purdue the highest regarded academically of the publics. I could be wrong, but that's my impression from the midwest.

 
themeanmachine said:
Not likely, most states make it very hard or impossible to claim state residency for tuition if you start out of state, or they would all do this. 
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Fair enough. 

36.27(2) (cm) Any person continuously employed full time in this state, who was relocated to this state by his or her current employer or who moved to this state for employment purposes and accepted his or her current employment before applying for admission to an institution and before moving, and the spouse and dependents of any such person, are entitled to the exemption under par. (a) if the student demonstrates an intent to establish and maintain a permanent home in Wisconsin according to the criteria under par. (e). In this paragraph, “dependents” has the meaning given in 26 USC 152(a).
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Hmmm. I could get her a job and transfer her out there to one of our satellite offices. 

LMAO, Sorry this is my PG County coming out of me. Always looking for an angle to outsmart the system. 

 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
Fair enough. 

Hmmm. I could get her a job and transfer her out there to one of our satellite offices. 

LMAO, Sorry this is my PG County coming out of me. Always looking for an angle to outsmart the system. 
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Hey, I hear you. I'd love it if it worked out for you. Unfortunately, I think they are strict enough that you'd have to prove she is actually the one paying for school and not you.

 
Battersbox said:
Hey, I hear you. I'd love it if it worked out for you. Unfortunately, I think they are strict enough that you'd have to prove she is actually the one paying for school and not you.
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That is good to know, thank you. 

Battersbox said:
My wife has sufficiently dampened my daughter's desire to leave the Midwest for school (wife didn't want her far enough away that flights were necessary) so we only toured about half the Big 10 and Illinois State. 

Applications went out to Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, Indiana, and Illinois State. Indiana, Iowa and Illinois State do rolling acceptance so she's been accepted to those three, but Madison is her number 1. Unfortunately as I understand it she will get exactly zero merit aid from Wisconsin, so we're crossing our fingers for Iowa (which she also loved). Iowa already came at us with $8k merit aid so we're very proud of her hard work.

I was also pleased to see the link sent to us about further scholarship opportunities that Iowa has. My daughter has applied for all that she's eligible (going in as and English/writing major). A little more help from any of these and we may just have the equivalent to in-state tuition at University of Illinois, which would be fantastic.

Thanks to all for sharing their experiences in here. It's quite overwhelming for the first-time parent.
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Good luck!

 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
Fair enough. 

Hmmm. I could get her a job and transfer her out there to one of our satellite offices. 

LMAO, Sorry this is my PG County coming out of me. Always looking for an angle to outsmart the system. 
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My daughter is looking closely at Iowa. I think Iowa City is an awesome college town and the school has a lot to offer. Also, Iowa DOES award out of state merit aid so the cost becomes more manageable.

 
Battersbox said:
Hey, I hear you. I'd love it if it worked out for you. Unfortunately, I think they are strict enough that you'd have to prove she is actually the one paying for school and not you.
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Back in the day this was easy.  I would write the tuition check out of my account and that's all you really needed

 
Battersbox said:
My daughter is looking closely at Iowa. I think Iowa City is an awesome college town and the school has a lot to offer. Also, Iowa DOES award out of state merit aid so the cost becomes more manageable.
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If this is true, I'd also look closely at Nebraska. Lincoln >>> Iowa City.

 
soothsayer said:
If this is true, I'd also look closely at Nebraska. Lincoln >>> Iowa City.
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We toured Nebraska with my son (now a freshman elsewhere), and came away impressed.  And they offered very generous merit aid - my son had good grades but wasn't top of his class, and they offered so much money that tuition would have been far less than we're paying for the in-state public university he ended up choosing.  And Lincoln was great.

 
Battersbox said:
Wisconsin really is a fantastic public university. After Michigan and perhaps Illinois & Purdue the highest regarded academically of the publics. I could be wrong, but that's my impression from the midwest.
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Maybe in the Midwest,  but Berkeley, UCLA, University of VA, UNC-Chapel Hill, Georgia Tech are all pretty selective and in the Michigan stratosphere. Wisconsin isn’t far off. Illinois and Purdue are notch below all the ones I listed. 

 
SteelCurtain said:
Maybe in the Midwest,  but Berkeley, UCLA, University of VA, UNC-Chapel Hill, Georgia Tech are all pretty selective and in the Michigan stratosphere. Wisconsin isn’t far off. Illinois and Purdue are notch below all the ones I listed. 
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Yup.  Texas is up there somewhere too.  Also depends on major - for engineering, Florida, Rutgers and Maryland are all very good as well.

 
SteelCurtain said:
Maybe in the Midwest,  but Berkeley, UCLA, University of VA, UNC-Chapel Hill, Georgia Tech are all pretty selective and in the Michigan stratosphere. Wisconsin isn’t far off. Illinois and Purdue are notch below all the ones I listed. 
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I was speaking in terms of the Midwest specifically, and really mostly about the Big10

 
-fish- said:
Roverkid got her acceptance to NYU just now.   She didn't think she was getting in.  So happy for her.   
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so glad I get to give this news another :heart:

zoobird said:
Congrats!  That's an awesome feeling...just went through it a couple of days ago - my daughter got into Cornell.  
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lede buried...  fantastic news! congrats to you guys (other than the superspreader stuff I just heard about).

cornell is gorges. :bag:  

 
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