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College RB Quinshon Judkins, Ohio St. (1 Viewer)

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If Henderson stays I think Judkins is stupid.

Ohio State added some star power in the run game on Monday night with Ole Miss transfer running back Quinshon Judkins, who announced his commitment to the Buckeyes.

Judkins is a true sophomore who entered the transfer portal Friday, a somewhat surprising move considering how many starters the Rebels are returning next season.

Judkins was the team's leading rusher the past two seasons, running for 1,567 yards and 16 touchdowns his freshman season in 2022. He ran for 1,158 yards (which was 25th among all FBS running backs) and 15 touchdowns (tied for 11th) this season.

Ohio State's run game dealt with injuries this season and finished ranked No. 88 in rush yards per game among all FBS teams, averaging just 138.8 yards per game.

The team's leading rusher, TreVeyon Henderson, who had 926 yards and 11 touchdowns, hasn't yet announced whether he plans to leave for the NFL draft or come back for the 2024 season. The Buckeyes saw Chip Trayanum, who was second on the team in rush yards with 373 yards and three touchdowns, transfer to Kentucky, but will return Dallan Hayden.

Adding Judkins gives Ohio State an incredible one-two punch if Henderson does return, or it gives the team a clear No. 1 back if Henderson leaves for the NFL. Either way, adding Judkins gives the Buckeyes an experienced back with two seasons of eligibility who will help improve the run game in 2024.
 
Everything I've read and heard about Judkins suggests that, ability aside, he's an absolute nightmare of a teammate, and him entering the transfer portal was more than a net positive for the Ole Miss team morale.

Maybe he needs a change of scene, let's hope.

Seems like a very bad decision for one or both of the two OSU running backs if Henderson returns. I'm not seeing a way where both of them can increase their draft stock by playing on the same team in 24.
 
Everything I've read and heard about Judkins suggests that, ability aside, he's an absolute nightmare of a teammate, and him entering the transfer portal was more than a net positive for the Ole Miss team morale.

Maybe he needs a change of scene, let's hope.

Seems like a very bad decision for one or both of the two OSU running backs if Henderson returns. I'm not seeing a way where both of them can increase their draft stock by playing on the same team in 24.
Maybe Judkins knows that TH is declaring? Or he just may be dumber than a bag of hammers. Either way, Judkins is a very talented RB.
 
Just thinking out loud:

Ole Miss was #11 this year in the CFP Rankings. They will return A LOT of players. They'll be really good and have a chance to make the CFP.

When he declared, I assumed this was NIL related. I'm assuming Ohio State is the kind of place that can and does drop a huge stack of NIL dollars when needed. People on Twitter are saying he was asking 1 million plus. No idea if it's true and I won't pretend that it is. I do however think Ohio State had to pony up a large amount. I don't think they pony up a large amount if they know Henderson is back.
 
Just thinking out loud:

Ole Miss was #11 this year in the CFP Rankings. They will return A LOT of players. They'll be really good and have a chance to make the CFP.

When he declared, I assumed this was NIL related. I'm assuming Ohio State is the kind of place that can and does drop a huge stack of NIL dollars when needed. People on Twitter are saying he was asking 1 million plus. No idea if it's true and I won't pretend that it is. I do however think Ohio State had to pony up a large amount. I don't think they pony up a large amount if they know Henderson is back.
Makes sense to me.
 
Henderson returning for his senior year. Is Judkins stupid? He should have found out what Henderson was going to do before he transferred there. LOL
 
From a fantasy perspective this may be a blessing for both players, but I don't get Judkins' mentality here. Maybe he likes playing second fiddle.
 
What's everyones thoughts on Judkins? He seems like's got the size and speed combo that works for the NFL
 
I am a huge Judkins fan, but I don't know what to make of the Ohio State backfield for this coming season. Both Judkins and Henderson are incredibly talented. They are both going to get plenty of reps, cutting into each other's production, but also preserving both for next year's draft. I could easily see these two being the RB1 and RB2 of the 2025 class.
 
I am a huge Judkins fan, but I don't know what to make of the Ohio State backfield for this coming season. Both Judkins and Henderson are incredibly talented. They are both going to get plenty of reps, cutting into each other's production, but also preserving both for next year's draft. I could easily see these two being the RB1 and RB2 of the 2025 class.
I like the preserving both for next year’s draft part, but I don’t know what Judkins was thinking going to Ohio St., unless it’s a NIL thingy.
 
I am a huge Judkins fan, but I don't know what to make of the Ohio State backfield for this coming season. Both Judkins and Henderson are incredibly talented. They are both going to get plenty of reps, cutting into each other's production, but also preserving both for next year's draft. I could easily see these two being the RB1 and RB2 of the 2025 class.
I like the preserving both for next year’s draft part, but I don’t know what Judkins was thinking going to Ohio St., unless it’s a NIL thingy.
You're right. It really doesn't make a lot of sense. Perhaps it does just come down to money.
 
I am a huge Judkins fan, but I don't know what to make of the Ohio State backfield for this coming season. Both Judkins and Henderson are incredibly talented. They are both going to get plenty of reps, cutting into each other's production, but also preserving both for next year's draft. I could easily see these two being the RB1 and RB2 of the 2025 class.
I like the preserving both for next year’s draft part, but I don’t know what Judkins was thinking going to Ohio St., unless it’s a NIL thingy.
You're right. It really doesn't make a lot of sense. Perhaps it does just come down to money.
Worse thought is he doesn’t like carrying the load. He did share with Zach Evans a couple of years ago.
 
I am a huge Judkins fan, but I don't know what to make of the Ohio State backfield for this coming season. Both Judkins and Henderson are incredibly talented. They are both going to get plenty of reps, cutting into each other's production, but also preserving both for next year's draft. I could easily see these two being the RB1 and RB2 of the 2025 class.
I like the preserving both for next year’s draft part, but I don’t know what Judkins was thinking going to Ohio St., unless it’s a NIL thingy.
You're right. It really doesn't make a lot of sense. Perhaps it does just come down to money.
It makes plenty of sense. He has nothing to prove, and going to where he'll split only serves to reduce his mileage. I think TOSU is a great spot for him, even without NIL considerations.
 
He's climbed a few Devy rankings boards recently, passing Henderson.

Is there reason to believe he will steal the #1 job at OSU or is that more of a reflection of NFL fit?
 
He's climbed a few Devy rankings boards recently, passing Henderson.

Is there reason to believe he will steal the #1 job at OSU or is that more of a reflection of NFL fit?
I watch every OSU game (married into an OSU family 24 years ago) and I don't see any scenario except injury where Judkins replaces Henderson as the #1 RB on that team. I predict more like 60-40 or 65-35. Something is telling me that Judkins likes not being a bell cow, going back to his sharing days at Ole Miss with Evans. Or he just made a bad decision thinking Henderson was going pro.
 
He's climbed a few Devy rankings boards recently, passing Henderson.

Is there reason to believe he will steal the #1 job at OSU or is that more of a reflection of NFL fit?
I watch every OSU game (married into an OSU family 24 years ago) and I don't see any scenario except injury where Judkins replaces Henderson as the #1 RB on that team. I predict more like 60-40 or 65-35. Something is telling me that Judkins likes not being a bell cow, going back to his sharing days at Ole Miss with Evans. Or he just made a bad decision thinking Henderson was going pro.
If you had the choice to roster either in a Devy league situation, which way are you going?
 
He's climbed a few Devy rankings boards recently, passing Henderson.

Is there reason to believe he will steal the #1 job at OSU or is that more of a reflection of NFL fit?
I watch every OSU game (married into an OSU family 24 years ago) and I don't see any scenario except injury where Judkins replaces Henderson as the #1 RB on that team. I predict more like 60-40 or 65-35. Something is telling me that Judkins likes not being a bell cow, going back to his sharing days at Ole Miss with Evans. Or he just made a bad decision thinking Henderson was going pro.
If you had the choice to roster either in a Devy league situation, which way are you going?
I like Judkins, but I like Henderson more. I have both in two different DEVY leagues. The thing I like about Henderson is his vision and ability to make defenders miss and has the burst to accelerate after making a move. He also has long speed. He will be good in the receiving game. Now Judkins has a lot of positives as well. You have to like his size, strength, vision and balance, but his playing speed may be less than elite against NFL defenders.
 
Practice I caught in March....it was Judkins who opened as the starter in team. Also was 1st in all drills. Henderson was second
I doubt he RB replaces a proven stud fan favorite as the starter when the season starts. I do however think Judkins will get at least 35 to 40 percent.
 
Agree, every Buckeye loves Henderson and is pulling for the kid.
Practice I caught in March of 23 when McCord was the starter, Henderson was off to the side rehabbing.....and therein lies the problem, he gets beat up a lot and misses time.
Last thing I will say is that Judkins looks like a Ferrari out there. Specimen. If he stays healthy.....I won't be surprised if the split goes the other way and Judkins usurps him

My .02
 
Agree, every Buckeye loves Henderson and is pulling for the kid.
Practice I caught in March of 23 when McCord was the starter, Henderson was off to the side rehabbing.....and therein lies the problem, he gets beat up a lot and misses time.
Last thing I will say is that Judkins looks like a Ferrari out there. Specimen. If he stays healthy.....I won't be surprised if the split goes the other way and Judkins usurps him

My .02
As a married into a buckeye family 27 years ago I'd put my money on Henderson being the starter and getting at least 60% of the carries from beginning to end barring injury.
 
Agree, every Buckeye loves Henderson and is pulling for the kid.
Practice I caught in March of 23 when McCord was the starter, Henderson was off to the side rehabbing.....and therein lies the problem, he gets beat up a lot and misses time.
Last thing I will say is that Judkins looks like a Ferrari out there. Specimen. If he stays healthy.....I won't be surprised if the split goes the other way and Judkins usurps him

My .02
As a married into a buckeye family 27 years ago I'd put my money on Henderson being the starter and getting at least 60% of the carries from beginning to end barring injury.
Gentlemen bet and friendly wager, regardless of health. You in?
 
Really interesting that OSU could have THREE early first round rookie picks in 2025 (Henderson, Judkins and Egbuka).
You are no doubt referring to first-round fantasy picks, and I completely agree. I hope that having two stellar backs not only reduces the load on each but that they push one another to become even better and more complete. Jeremiah Smith (Fr. WR) may be the OSU player I am most excited to watch this season, however.
 
Really interesting that OSU could have THREE early first round rookie picks in 2025 (Henderson, Judkins and Egbuka).
You are no doubt referring to first-round fantasy picks, and I completely agree. I hope that having two stellar backs not only reduces the load on each but that they push one another to become even better and more complete. Jeremiah Smith (Fr. WR) may be the OSU player I am most excited to watch this season, however.
Thank you, yes I meant fantasy picks. I am interested in watching Smith as well.
 
Judkins has lost some shine for me. In the OSU games I've watched this year Henderson has looked like the more dynamic back.

Its a great class, but pre draft I'd put him around RB5. Behind Jeanty, Hampton, Johnson and Henderson.
 
Judkins has lost some shine for me. In the OSU games I've watched this year Henderson has looked like the more dynamic back.

Its a great class, but pre draft I'd put him around RB5. Behind Jeanty, Hampton, Johnson and Henderson.
I agree, when I have watched him I always anticipated coming away more impressed…but have not. Seems like a fairly efficient runner without that extra high end skill that puts some into the next tier.
 
Henderson appears much more explosive in my eyes.
He for sure is, I just thought Judkins offered something more that would catch my eye…and I came away unimpressed. Henderson will probably be drafted well ahead of him in FF and NFL. In the right situation Henderson could be a nice FF back if he can stay on the field (has had his own injury issues).
 
Henderson appears much more explosive in my eyes.
He for sure is, I just thought Judkins offered something more that would catch my eye…and I came away unimpressed. Henderson will probably be drafted well ahead of him in FF and NFL. In the right situation Henderson could be a nice FF back if he can stay on the field (has had his own injury issues).
Funny how things flip flop in FF. People were suffering from prospect fatigue with Henderson because he's been on the radar a long time. I happen to like both Henderson and Judkns.\ and like both more than Kaleb Johnson.
 
Henderson appears much more explosive in my eyes.
He for sure is, I just thought Judkins offered something more that would catch my eye…and I came away unimpressed. Henderson will probably be drafted well ahead of him in FF and NFL. In the right situation Henderson could be a nice FF back if he can stay on the field (has had his own injury issues).
Funny how things flip flop in FF. People were suffering from prospect fatigue with Henderson because he's been on the radar a long time. I happen to like both Henderson and Judkns.\ and like both more than Kaleb Johnson.
I would be interested in hearing your take on why you prefer Judkins over KJ if you feel like sharing.
 
Henderson appears much more explosive in my eyes.
He for sure is, I just thought Judkins offered something more that would catch my eye…and I came away unimpressed. Henderson will probably be drafted well ahead of him in FF and NFL. In the right situation Henderson could be a nice FF back if he can stay on the field (has had his own injury issues).
Funny how things flip flop in FF. People were suffering from prospect fatigue with Henderson because he's been on the radar a long time. I happen to like both Henderson and Judkns.\ and like both more than Kaleb Johnson.
I would be interested in hearing your take on why you prefer Judkins over KJ if you feel like sharing.
I feel Johnson will be more of a banger in the NFL, with limited explosivness and long speed. He also doesn't profile that good as a receiver. Judkins doesn't catch a lot of passes either, but shows soft hands. I do think Judkins short area burst and vision are great. I think he has better long speed than Johnson, but maybe not by much. While not elite, his 4.49 speed good enough. I also believe he is good at creating yards through contact in tight spaces. That along with his vision and explosiveness gives him the edge over Johnson in my opinion. I could be wrong however and NFL GMs may also think otherwise. It will be exciting to see what the NFL thinks of both and of course see what they do at the underwear Olympics.
 
Ray G
Quinshon Judkins is going to have a LONG NFL career. Those physical runs will be received well by teams looking for an RB who can consistently churn out tough yards.

Excellent sequence by the talented rusher. #NationalChampionship #NFLDraft2025
 
Solidified the #2 rookie RB ranking behind Jeanty?
I think a lot of people like Hampton. I happen to like Henderson more than Judkins, but it’s close. I just think he’s more explosive, better vision, better long speed, but more injury prone.

hampton my #2.... and judkins the 2nd best RB at ohio state as well, imo.
he's good. in the right environment, could be very good... but as it stands he's 3/4
 

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