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i have been keeping an eye on Ringer, Arian Foster of Tenn (saw him live when UCLA upsett Tenn and he looked good minus the fumble) and McCoy. Looks like a few more too watch on this list.

 
i have been keeping an eye on Ringer, Arian Foster of Tenn (saw him live when UCLA upsett Tenn and he looked good minus the fumble) and McCoy. Looks like a few more too watch on this list.
i've watched Foster for years now and there is almost no way he becomes a solid NFL RB. He just isn't very good. Mediocrity at it's finest, i never understand when i see draftnits having him going in round 2 of the 2009 draft. THere is NO way that happens.
 
i have been keeping an eye on Ringer, Arian Foster of Tenn (saw him live when UCLA upsett Tenn and he looked good minus the fumble) and McCoy. Looks like a few more too watch on this list.
i've watched Foster for years now and there is almost no way he becomes a solid NFL RB. He just isn't very good. Mediocrity at it's finest, i never understand when i see draftnits having him going in round 2 of the 2009 draft. THere is NO way that happens.
Yep, Cedric Houston Part II
 
Foster has a history of fumblitis and isn't that special otherwise.

Dwyer is a great combination of power and speed that is a little bit under most people's radar. 8.1/carry right now.

 
John Clay will be a break out player next year. Right now he is in the rotation with a bunch of talented RBs. Clay is a beast in the running game and is learning the other parts of the game so he can be on the field more.

He will be playing on Sundays and making a lot of yardage for some team.

 
Its october and Javon Ringer and LeSean McCoy are looking good. Any other thoughts??

No love for Chris “Beanie” Wells?
He is already on someones roster and a well known comodity. Looking for the next slaton, mendenhall, chris johnson types. The guys that get a shot later in college and make it to the top of the NFL draft.Wells and Moreno already taken.
Foster has a history of fumblitis and isn't that special otherwise. Dwyer is a great combination of power and speed that is a little bit under most people's radar. 8.1/carry right now.
I may have missed it earlier in the thread, where is he playing?
John Clay will be a break out player next year. Right now he is in the rotation with a bunch of talented RBs. Clay is a beast in the running game and is learning the other parts of the game so he can be on the field more. He will be playing on Sundays and making a lot of yardage for some team.
Him too?
 
Freshman's to stash

Darrell Scott COL

De'Anthony Curtis ARK

Mark Ingram ALA My sleeper Freshman for this year

Enrique Davis MISS

Jamie Harper CLEM

Jermie Calhoun OKLA

Jacquizz Rodgers ORST
Would be interested to hear more about Ingram. Roll Tide!
I posted my thoughts on Ingram from the South Carolina-Alabama game In This Link
I think it's worth noting that Ingram's father - former Spartan and NY Giant - is a total disaster as a human being. He's been convicted of numerous felonies and just last month was sent back to prison for money laundering. Ingram jr. heading south to 'Bama instead of MSU as was kind of expected is thought by many to have been a bit of an escape. He's got a lot of baggage. I sincerely hope he succeeds, but he's had a rough life.
 
Its october and Javon Ringer and LeSean McCoy are looking good. Any other thoughts??
I'm waiting to see what Ringer can do against a real college defense before annointing him, but I'm not sure he'll see one all year. He has the "big 10 RB" thing going against him. I like him, but I'm afraid he'll be an NFL bust.
 
Its october and Javon Ringer and LeSean McCoy are looking good. Any other thoughts??

No love for Chris “Beanie” Wells?
He is already on someones roster and a well known comodity. Looking for the next slaton, mendenhall, chris johnson types. The guys that get a shot later in college and make it to the top of the NFL draft.Wells and Moreno already taken.
Foster has a history of fumblitis and isn't that special otherwise. Dwyer is a great combination of power and speed that is a little bit under most people's radar. 8.1/carry right now.
I may have missed it earlier in the thread, where is he playing?
John Clay will be a break out player next year. Right now he is in the rotation with a bunch of talented RBs. Clay is a beast in the running game and is learning the other parts of the game so he can be on the field more. He will be playing on Sundays and making a lot of yardage for some team.
Him too?
Dwyer plays for GaTech and Clay plays for Wisconsin.
 
MSULions said:
Freshman's to stash

Darrell Scott COL

De'Anthony Curtis ARK

Mark Ingram ALA My sleeper Freshman for this year

Enrique Davis MISS

Jamie Harper CLEM

Jermie Calhoun OKLA

Jacquizz Rodgers ORST
Would be interested to hear more about Ingram. Roll Tide!
I posted my thoughts on Ingram from the South Carolina-Alabama game In This Link
I think it's worth noting that Ingram's father - former Spartan and NY Giant - is a total disaster as a human being. He's been convicted of numerous felonies and just last month was sent back to prison for money laundering. Ingram jr. heading south to 'Bama instead of MSU as was kind of expected is thought by many to have been a bit of an escape. He's got a lot of baggage. I sincerely hope he succeeds, but he's had a rough life.
Correct - Mrs. Ingram wanted Jr. to be as far away from his father as possible. Mark Jr. is a quality individual. However, he will have some serious competition next year with Trent Richardson, the #1 RB in Florida who will join the Tide in this recruiting class.
 
No love for Donald Brown (UConn)?

Leading the nation in rushing right now. Put up 190 yards on the then #2 defense @Louisville last Fri night. The guy has unbelievable patience and vision and a very quick burst through the hole.

Check him out tomorrow night @UNC (7:00 ESPN2).

 
Nolan Nawrocki, who writes Pro Football Weekly's draft guide, gave these rankings to the college seniors Sept. 27. The list was a Top 100 overall.

Link

RK. POS # Name School Grade Height Weight Speed Notes

1. ILB 33 James Laurinaitis Ohio State 7.00 6020e 240e 4.75e OLB

2. OLB 59 Aaron Curry Wake Forest 6.70 6016 250 4.61

3. OT 75 Eugene Monroe Virginia 6.70 6051 310 5.20e

4. ILB 58 Rey Maualuga USC 6.60 6020e 260e 4.75e Ch.

5. CB 2 Malcolm Jenkins Ohio State 6.50 6000e 195e 4.45e FS

6. OT 74 Michael Oher Mississippi 6.50 6050e 330e 5.20e OG

7. FS 1 William Moore Missouri 6.30 6003 230 4.50e X, SS

8. DE 98 Brian Orakpo Texas 6.30 6034e 255e 4.65e OLB

9. TE 87 Brandon Pettigrew Oklahoma State 6.30 6054e 260e 4.85e Ch.

10. DE 93 Michael Johnson Georgia Tech 6.25 6070 260 4.65e PRS

11. OT 79 Phil Loadholt Oklahoma 6.25 6074e 340e 5.35e Ch.

12. DT 98 Peria Jerry Mississippi 6.20 6030e 310e 5.00e X

13. OT 72 Jason Smith Baylor 6.15 6044e 300e 5.15e X, TE

14. OLB 10 Brian Cushing USC 6.10 6026e 255e 4.60e

15. ILB 48 Darry Beckwith LSU 6.10 6004 240 4.60e X

16. TE 45 Chase Coffman Missouri 6.05 6057 250 4.85e

17. OG 72 Duke Robinson Oklahoma 6.00 6054e 335e 5.30e OT

18. TE 9 Travis Beckum Wisconsin 5.99 6030 240 4.65e H-B. X

19. SS 15 Patrick Chung Oregon 5.95 5107 210 4.55e

20. DE 93 Tyson Jackson LSU 5.95 6042 295 4.90e

21. OT 77 James Meredith South Carolina 5.95 6050e 305e 5.10e OG

22. FS 49 Rashad Johnson Alabama 5.90 5114 185 4.53

23. RB 23 Javon Ringer Michigan State 5.90 5090e 200e 4.55e X, KR

24. OLB 51 Clint Sintim Virginia 5.90 6023 250 4.70e

25. OC 51 Alex Mack California 5.90 6037 310 5.10e

26. DT 67 Terrance Taylor Michigan 5.90 6000e 310e 5.20e

27. ILB 33 Dannell Ellerbe Georgia 5.85 6007 235 4.65e Ch., OLB

28. DE 92 Matt Shaughnessy Wisconsin 5.85 6051 245 4.75e X

29. CB 2 Alphonso Smith Wake Forest 5.80 5086 190 4.45e S

30. RB 1 James Davis Clemson 5.80 5111 210 4.49e X, KR

31. WR 2 Derrick Williams Penn State 5.80 6000e 200e 4.50e KR

32. TE 7 Cornelius Ingram Florida 5.80 6036 230 4.65e H-B, X

33. OG 79 Herman Johnson LSU 5.80 6067 390 5.20e OT

34. CB 6 DeAngelo Smith Cincinnati 5.75 5110 190 4.56 FS

35. WR 9 Juaquin Iglesias Oklahoma 5.75 6000e 205e 4.50e RS

36. OG 71 Tyronne Green Auburn 5.75 6014e 305e 5.25e

37. WR 1 Mohamed Massaquoi Georgia 5.70 6013 205 4.55e

38. OLB 1 Marcus Freeman Ohio State 5.70 6010e 240e 4.60e

39. CB 1 Darius Butler Connecticut 5.65 5103 185 4.44

40. DE 81 Will Davis Jr. Illinois 5.65 6020 260 4.80e TE

41. DT 94 Evander Hood Missouri 5.65 6030 295 5.00e DE

42. WR 87 Brandon Tate North Carolina 5.60 6010e 195e 4.45e RS

43. CB 22 Bruce Johnson Miami (Fla.) 5.60 5100e 175e 4.45e KR

44. RB 24 Andre Brown North Carolina State 5.60 6000e 225e 4.55e KR

45. OT 57 Fenuki Tupou Oregon 5.60 6051 335 5.20e OG

46. WR 2 Demetrius Byrd LSU 5.59 6005 200 4.50e

47. OT 75 Alex Boone Ohio State 5.59 6070e 315e 5.30e Ch.

48. WR 9 Louis Murphy Florida 5.55 6024 200 4.40e

49. WR 80 Brian Robiskie Ohio State 5.55 6020e 190e 4.52e KR

50. SS 25 Michael Hamlin Clemson 5.55 6023 205 4.60e X, FS

51. OLB 27 Tyrone McKenzie South Florida 5.55 6020e 230e 4.70e

52. TE 1 Shawn Nelson Southern Mississippi 5.50 6046 235 4.67 H-B

53. DE 50 Cody Brown Connecticut 5.50 6021 240 4.70 OLB

54. WR 7 Tiquan Underwood Rutgers 5.50 6012 175 4.45e KR

55. RB 24 Jeremiah Johnson Oregon 5.50 5090 205 4.55e RS

56. DT 71 Alex Magee Purdue 5.50 6024 295 4.95e DE

57. DT 99 Vance Walker Georgia Tech 5.50 6016 300 5.05e DE

58. OC 77 Eric Wood Louisville 5.50 6036 305 5.20e

59. OG 63 Kraig Urbik Wisconsin 5.50 6063 330 5.30e

60. CB 8 Brandon Underwood Cincinnati 5.45 6004e 175e 4.45e

61. CB 13 Ryan Palmer Texas 5.45 5094e 190e 4.45e

62. FS 36 Courtney Greene Rutgers 5.45 6003 215 4.50e

63. TE 85 Bear Pascoe Fresno State 5.45 6056 265 4.90e

64. OT 77 Troy Kropog Tulane 5.45 6056 290 4.90e

65. DT 95 Jeff Owens Georgia 5.45 6007 300 5.00e X

66. OC 60 Max Unger Oregon 5.45 6044 310 5.25e OG, OT

67. CB 6 Domonique Johnson Jackson State 5.40 6015 185 4.56

68. ILB 39 Jason Phillips TCU 5.40 6011 235 4.59

69. OC 63 Jonathan Luigs Arkansas 5.40 6036 310 5.06 OG

70. WR 1 Brooks Foster North Carolina 5.40 6030e 190e 4.45e

71. CB 32 Jahi Word-Daniels Georgia Tech 5.40 5114 190 4.55e

72. FB 36 Brannan Southerland Georgia 5.40 6000 250 4.65e X

73. DE 91 Derek Walker Illinois 5.40 6032 270 4.80e DT

74. DE 91 Pannel Egboh Stanford 5.40 6054e 275e 4.85e DT

75. QB 10 Cullen Harper Clemson 5.40 6030 220 4.95e X

76. DT 86 George Hypolite Colorado 5.40 6007 290 5.00e

77. OG 66 Cornelius Lewis Tennessee State 5.40 6033 315 5.20e OT, Ch.

78. OT 77 Jason Watkins Florida 5.40 6053 310 5.25e

79. FS 9 Chip Vaughn Wake Forest 5.39 6016 210 4.51

80. CB 21 Mike Mickens Cincinnati 5.39 5113 180 4.56 KR

81. TE 80 Ryan Purvis Boston College 5.39 6037 260 4.85e

82. DE 11 Michael Bennett Texas A&M 5.39 6034e 265e 4.85e

83. CB 2 Kevin Barnes Maryland 5.37 6004 180 4.47

84. CB 3 Derek Pegues Mississippi State 5.37 5095 195 4.48e Ch., FS

85. WR 4 Marko Mitchell Nevada 5.37 6034e 200e 4.49

86. FS 27 Curtis Taylor LSU 5.37 6022 210 4.50e SS

87. WR 19 Sammie Stroughter Oregon State 5.37 5092 185 4.50e KR

88. FS 27 David Bruton Notre Dame 5.37 6016 205 4.55e

89. TE 85 David Johnson Arkansas State 5.37 6015 270 4.68 FB, H-B

90. ILB 58 Antonio Appleby Virginia 5.37 6030 250 4.70e DE

91. DE 94 Eric Moncur Miami (Fla.) 5.37 6020e 250e 4.80e OLB

92. OLB 44 Mortty Ivy West Virginia 5.37 6011 235 4.80e

93. RB 23 Aaron Brown TCU 5.35 6004 190 4.52 RS

94. DT 90 B.J. Raji Boston College 5.35 6012 335 5.19 Ch., X

95. OLB 2 Jonathan Casillas Wisconsin 5.35 6006 225 4.45e

96. CB 6 Keenan Lewis Oregon State 5.35 6006 200 4.50e S

97. WR 11 Kenny McKinley South Carolina 5.35 6000e 180e 4.50e X

98. WR 10 Mike Thomas Arizona 5.35 5082 200 4.50e

99. WR 4 Brandon Gibson Washington State 5.35 6001 200 4.55e

100. WR 80 Aaron Kelly Clemson 5.35 6045 185 4.60e

Here is the positional list for RB's:

1. 23 Javon Ringer Michigan State 5.90 5090e 200e 4.55e X, KR

2. 1 James Davis Clemson 5.80 5111 210 4.49e X, KR

3. 24 Andre Brown North Carolina State 5.60 6000e 225e 4.55e KR

4. 24 Jeremiah Johnson Oregon 5.50 5090 205 4.55e RS

5. 23 Aaron Brown TCU 5.35 6004 190 4.52 RS

6. 27 Arian Foster Tennessee 5.35 6010e 215e 4.60e X

7. 28 Javarris Williams Tennessee State 5.35 5093 220 4.60e

8. 1 Brad Lester Auburn 5.33 5100e 195e 4.55 Ch., X

9. 5 Devin Moore Wyoming 5.30 5091 185 4.46 RS

10. 3 Rashad Jennings Liberty 5.27 6010 230 4.64

 
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I think Charles Scott, the RB from LSU will have a nice NFL career. He is a junior. His reading abilities are second to none...very patient and powerful back.

And BTW, he LEADS the NCAA in YPC.

 
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i have been keeping an eye on Ringer, Arian Foster of Tenn (saw him live when UCLA upsett Tenn and he looked good minus the fumble) and McCoy. Looks like a few more too watch on this list.
i've watched Foster for years now and there is almost no way he becomes a solid NFL RB. He just isn't very good. Mediocrity at it's finest, i never understand when i see draftnits having him going in round 2 of the 2009 draft. THere is NO way that happens.
<----- Vol homerbecause the draftniks know that he is the best pass-receiving big RB in the country and it's not closenice soft hands out of the backfield, catches even badly thrown passes, and can catch the ball over his head 30 yards downfield and DBs bounce off of him after the catchi know fantasy-football-owners focus on the 3-down feature backs and have a hard time understanding that NFL teams actually are interested in pass receiving backs for 3rd down situations ONLY - he is what he is, a serviceable big-size RB who has great handsi have no love for foster (he has no-hit fumbled away 3 games in his career and has below average speed), and i can't see him being a long-term 1st and 2nd down back either - he is an enigma, great hands pass-receiving but fumbles without being hit - but i do see his qualities
 
See 2009 RB Draft Class Preview in sig...
Any updates on this?
Nolan Nawrocki, who writes Pro Football Weekly's draft guide, gave these rankings to the college seniors Sept. 27. The list was a Top 100 overall.

Link

Here is the positional list for RB's:

1. 23 Javon Ringer Michigan State 5.90 5090e 200e 4.55e X, KR

2. 1 James Davis Clemson 5.80 5111 210 4.49e X, KR

3. 24 Andre Brown North Carolina State 5.60 6000e 225e 4.55e KR

4. 24 Jeremiah Johnson Oregon 5.50 5090 205 4.55e RS

5. 23 Aaron Brown TCU 5.35 6004 190 4.52 RS

6. 27 Arian Foster Tennessee 5.35 6010e 215e 4.60e X

7. 28 Javarris Williams Tennessee State 5.35 5093 220 4.60e

8. 1 Brad Lester Auburn 5.33 5100e 195e 4.55 Ch., X

9. 5 Devin Moore Wyoming 5.30 5091 185 4.46 RS

10. 3 Rashad Jennings Liberty 5.27 6010 230 4.64
Nice listLooks like 35 names or so in the thread, any updates as we move through the season? Ringer is getting a lot of press as is Donald Brown.

 
The only thing I'd offer as an update is that the more I see him run, the more I'm convinced that Stafon Johnson out of USC will be a good NFL RB and will certainly have more impact in the NFL than McKnight does.

 
Looks like 35 names or so in the thread, any updates as we move through the season? Ringer is getting a lot of press as is Donald Brown.
Color me unimpressed with what I've seen of Ringer. Smallish with a sub par burst. I don't see much to get excited about. My early top 4 in no particular order:

Chris Wells - A bit long-legged and takes too many hits, but runs hard and has a nice burst for a power back. Should be a solid pro when healthy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx0Bxf4zmf8

LeSean McCoy - Size, power, and character are concerns. Instincts, burst, and quickness are a plus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ogNFKyDUe4...feature=related

Knowshon Moreno - Good instincts along with adequate burst and power. Lack of special qualities may limit his upside at the next level.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w_yb0mWAaE

CJ Spiller - Raw, but elite physical gifts and upside will make him a tempting selection. Has a high ceiling and could be the best of this group.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqnqJn_UQx8

Wells would probably be my RB1 if I was drafting today. Spiller is charging up the boards, but he's hard to gauge because he doesn't get workhorse carries.

 
The only thing I'd offer as an update is that the more I see him run, the more I'm convinced that Stafon Johnson out of USC will be a good NFL RB and will certainly have more impact in the NFL than McKnight does.
Definitely possible. McKnight is the media darling in the USC backfield, but he might not be the best pro prospect. He's a lesser version of Reggie Bush.Johnson is a legit NFL prospect, but he might not have enough heat to leave school early. These two runs make me think he's worth watching though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAZePWptydk

Those are NFL caliber runs.

 
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The only thing I'd offer as an update is that the more I see him run, the more I'm convinced that Stafon Johnson out of USC will be a good NFL RB and will certainly have more impact in the NFL than McKnight does.
Definitely possible. McKnight is the media darling in the USC backfield, but he might not be the best pro prospects. He's a lesser version of Reggie Bush.Johnson is a legit NFL prospect, but he might not have enough heat to leave school early. These two runs make me think he's worth watching though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAZePWptydk

Exactly my thoughts as to McKnight.As for Johnson, he's got the right combination of size, strength and speed, and his running style does not involve any dancing. He finds a hole and he hits it, just like good NFL RB's do.

I could see Johnson deciding to leave early just to get out of the crowd that is the USC backfield though, so definitely pay attention to him. He's the kind of guy who'll go in the 2nd or 3rd round of the NFL draft, IMHO, but who could emerge as a star.

 
i have been keeping an eye on Ringer, Arian Foster of Tenn (saw him live when UCLA upsett Tenn and he looked good minus the fumble) and McCoy. Looks like a few more too watch on this list.
i've watched Foster for years now and there is almost no way he becomes a solid NFL RB. He just isn't very good. Mediocrity at it's finest, i never understand when i see draftnits having him going in round 2 of the 2009 draft. THere is NO way that happens.
<----- Vol homerbecause the draftniks know that he is the best pass-receiving big RB in the country and it's not closenice soft hands out of the backfield, catches even badly thrown passes, and can catch the ball over his head 30 yards downfield and DBs bounce off of him after the catchi know fantasy-football-owners focus on the 3-down feature backs and have a hard time understanding that NFL teams actually are interested in pass receiving backs for 3rd down situations ONLY - he is what he is, a serviceable big-size RB who has great handsi have no love for foster (he has no-hit fumbled away 3 games in his career and has below average speed), and i can't see him being a long-term 1st and 2nd down back either - he is an enigma, great hands pass-receiving but fumbles without being hit - but i do see his qualities
He sounds like his upside is around Michael Pittman territory, eh?
 
Donald Brown, RB from UConn, he played on the same Pop Warner team as Knowshon Moreno before High School. They played in the same Conference as my HS...Talk about a stacked Junior High team.

 
Nolan Nawrocki, who writes Pro Football Weekly's draft guide, gave these rankings to the college seniors Sept. 27. The list was a Top 100 overall.

Link

RK. POS # Name School Grade Height Weight Speed Notes

16. TE 45 Chase Coffman Missouri 6.05 6057 250 4.85e
Saw this guy for the first time. :football:
 
well our draft is this week. any final thoughts on players?

McCoy

Davis

Ringer

D Brown

Stafon Johnson

K Williams

Charles Scott

B Minor

Javid Best

others?

 
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Jahvid Best had an awesome play this weekend; on third down and three, he caught a little swing pass about two yards shy of the first down. A DB hit him immediately, with good tackling technique. Best got leverage against the DB, twisted away, used his injured arm to keep himself off the ground while pushing forward with his legs, and extended his ball-carrying arm forward to get the first down.

He also had another highlight-reel TD run where he showed balance, speed, vision, and athleticism, but that's not why he'll be an NFL success. He'll be an NFL success because he's a sprinter who runs like a football player.

He's very unlikely to come out this year, so you'll have to wait on him.

Oh, and another college RB to watch is Will Ta'ufo'ou, who is an outstanding blocking fullback. He won't be fantasy relevant himself, but you can upgrade the starting RB on whatever team he goes to.

 
well our draft is this week. any final thoughts on players?McCoy - Lightning quickness. Size? Character? Davis - Mediocre IMO. Backup material in the NFL. Ringer - Fraud.D Brown - Fraud.Stafon Johnson - Emerging as a legitimate first day prospect. Decent gamble. K Williams - In the doghouse. Chronic underachiever with upside.Charles Scott - Having a good year, but I'm not a huge fan.B Minor - Don't know of him.Javid Best - Talented and lightning fast, but smallish.others?
My first tier (in no particular order) is Knowshon Moreno, CJ Spiller, Chris Wells, and LeSean McCoy.After they're gone I would probably take a gamble on Shonn Greene or Stafon Johnson.
 
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Its october and Javon Ringer and LeSean McCoy are looking good. Any other thoughts??
I'm waiting to see what Ringer can do against a real college defense before annointing him, but I'm not sure he'll see one all year. He has the "big 10 RB" thing going against him. I like him, but I'm afraid he'll be an NFL bust.
Ringer will be a bust. When they play Psu in the final game of the season they will play a good DEF. Psu held Pryor down all game.
 
:goodposting:

I traded Willie Parker a midseason last year for two 1st round picks (2008/2009), and got the #7 overall pick, and the poor guy is doing even worse now, and I will likely get his #2 or #3 overall pick.

So I'm really interested in this crop, as my RBs are really weak right now.

 
:blush:I traded Willie Parker a midseason last year for two 1st round picks (2008/2009), and got the #7 overall pick, and the poor guy is doing even worse now, and I will likely get his #2 or #3 overall pick.So I'm really interested in this crop, as my RBs are really weak right now.
McCoy and Moreno ... write them down already.Hope the guy with #1 grabs Wells.
 
The only thing I'd offer as an update is that the more I see him run, the more I'm convinced that Stafon Johnson out of USC will be a good NFL RB and will certainly have more impact in the NFL than McKnight does.
Definitely possible. McKnight is the media darling in the USC backfield, but he might not be the best pro prospects. He's a lesser version of Reggie Bush.Johnson is a legit NFL prospect, but he might not have enough heat to leave school early. These two runs make me think he's worth watching though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAZePWptydk

Sounds like a Denver target if I ever heard of one. If drafted mid-late 2nd by the Broncos or they trade up in the 3rd for him, he'll be an instant top 8 rookie pick.
 
I was able to grab Shonn Green of Iowa and James Davis of Clemson. Like what i have seen of Green. 100 yards every game this season against decent talent.

Davis seems to be down but was hyped last year. Not sure what to think of him.

Missed out on McCoy and was sad about that.

 
granted i've only seen him play one game, but Kendall Hunter from OK state looks like he's got all the nuances in his game to excel at the pro level.

 
:thumbup:I traded Willie Parker a midseason last year for two 1st round picks (2008/2009), and got the #7 overall pick, and the poor guy is doing even worse now, and I will likely get his #2 or #3 overall pick.So I'm really interested in this crop, as my RBs are really weak right now.
McCoy and Moreno ... write them down already.Hope the guy with #1 grabs Wells.
I am a Georgia homer but I have to say that Moreno will not be nearly as good at the NFL level as alot of people seem to think. He lacks top-end speed and isn't big enough to run over people. If you only weigh 210 or less, you need to have breakaway speed, which he lacks. He is an amazing runner with great balance, vision, first-step explosion, and elusiveness. If only he had better speed.... I hope he stays in school and goes for the Heisman next year with the very overrated Matthew Stafford gone to the NFL.
 
:confused:I traded Willie Parker a midseason last year for two 1st round picks (2008/2009), and got the #7 overall pick, and the poor guy is doing even worse now, and I will likely get his #2 or #3 overall pick.So I'm really interested in this crop, as my RBs are really weak right now.
McCoy and Moreno ... write them down already.Hope the guy with #1 grabs Wells.
I am a Georgia homer but I have to say that Moreno will not be nearly as good at the NFL level as alot of people seem to think. He lacks top-end speed and isn't big enough to run over people. If you only weigh 210 or less, you need to have breakaway speed, which he lacks. He is an amazing runner with great balance, vision, first-step explosion, and elusiveness. If only he had better speed.... I hope he stays in school and goes for the Heisman next year with the very overrated Matthew Stafford gone to the NFL.
I'd have to agree, but he can surely be a solid RB - just not an elite guy. What's his BMI? ;)The speed/weight ratio has to be lower than we'd want.
 
B Maverick said:
I was able to grab Shonn Green of Iowa and James Davis of Clemson. Like what i have seen of Green. 100 yards every game this season against decent talent.
Green is one of the guys I wish I had more chance to see. He seems solid and a guy we can probably draft in the mid-1st, like Forte or C3 last year, but does he have the potential for greatness?
 
B Maverick said:
I was able to grab Shonn Green of Iowa and James Davis of Clemson. Like what i have seen of Green. 100 yards every game this season against decent talent.
Green is one of the guys I wish I had more chance to see. He seems solid and a guy we can probably draft in the mid-1st, like Forte or C3 last year, but does he have the potential for greatness?
I came away with the impression that he's fast & strong, runs through arm tackles and away from safeties & LBs. I didn't see the balance after contact or the shifty moves needed for someone to be successful in the NFL unless he gets even stronger and better at breaking tackles. Ron Dayne & Michael Bush type.
 
B Maverick said:
I was able to grab Shonn Green of Iowa and James Davis of Clemson. Like what i have seen of Green. 100 yards every game this season against decent talent.
Green is one of the guys I wish I had more chance to see. He seems solid and a guy we can probably draft in the mid-1st, like Forte or C3 last year, but does he have the potential for greatness?
I came away with the impression that he's fast & strong, runs through arm tackles and away from safeties & LBs. I didn't see the balance after contact or the shifty moves needed for someone to be successful in the NFL unless he gets even stronger and better at breaking tackles. Ron Dayne & Michael Bush type.
Everytime i see him i've been impressed by how he keeps his balance after big contact. Check out this video, he keeps his balance after contact all the time:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrWZwH9VVJU

I have also been impressed by his shiftiness for a big man, like EBF brings up he has fluid hips that he uses during jukes similar to Michael Turner. The big knock i have on Greene is that his speed is not as good. I got a feeling his 40 time won't be very good and that could cause him to drop in the draft.

 
B Maverick said:
I was able to grab Shonn Green of Iowa and James Davis of Clemson. Like what i have seen of Green. 100 yards every game this season against decent talent.
Green is one of the guys I wish I had more chance to see. He seems solid and a guy we can probably draft in the mid-1st, like Forte or C3 last year, but does he have the potential for greatness?
I came away with the impression that he's fast & strong, runs through arm tackles and away from safeties & LBs. I didn't see the balance after contact or the shifty moves needed for someone to be successful in the NFL unless he gets even stronger and better at breaking tackles. Ron Dayne & Michael Bush type.
Everytime i see him i've been impressed by how he keeps his balance after big contact. Check out this video, he keeps his balance after contact all the time:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrWZwH9VVJU

I have also been impressed by his shiftiness for a big man, like EBF brings up he has fluid hips that he uses during jukes similar to Michael Turner. The big knock i have on Greene is that his speed is not as good. I got a feeling his 40 time won't be very good and that could cause him to drop in the draft.
I think Turner has more speed & lateral movement. Green also seems to over-commit to body lean. He's very effective at bouncing off high tackles, but I don't think he gets to bowl NFL defenders like that. I would love to see him to Jacksonville in the 2nd if Taylor is released. He & Drew would have LBs knees weak by the 3rd quarter. Would make Tennessees running game pale in comparison. I do have him as a 1st round FFB pick. But I don't have him in the top 6 & don't like any of the RBs as much as the WRs if you're talking PPR. Definitely like Wells better, but not by a whole lot. Situation will have a lot to do with where I rank this guy, as with most backs in this class. I just don't see feature back in any of these guys. I don't think any of these guys could hold Ray Rice's jock... or Flash's, or McFadden's, or Stewart's. Jury is still out on Mendenhall & Felix thanks to injury.
 
Greene isn't a superstar in the making. Lots of guys in this class have more upside (Spiller, McCoy, Wells). That said, Greene is the type of back whose game should seamlessly translate to the NFL level. He has a strong frame, he runs low, and he has good feet. That last point is what separates him from failures like Dayne and Duckett. While not fast, Greene isn't sluggish. He has the quick feet and loose hips to make sharp cuts.

He reminds me a lot of Michael Turner and Rudi Johnson. Those guys were both massively productive college backs who slipped in the draft because they didn't have ideal combine numbers. Once they got an opportunity to prove themselves at the pro level, they excelled. I can definitely see Greene's career following a similar trajectory.

You just have to know what you're getting with Greene. He's not the next LT or ADP. His upside is probably as a high end RB2 in most FF leagues.

 
:goodposting:I traded Willie Parker a midseason last year for two 1st round picks (2008/2009), and got the #7 overall pick, and the poor guy is doing even worse now, and I will likely get his #2 or #3 overall pick.So I'm really interested in this crop, as my RBs are really weak right now.
McCoy and Moreno ... write them down already.Hope the guy with #1 grabs Wells.
I am a Georgia homer but I have to say that Moreno will not be nearly as good at the NFL level as alot of people seem to think. He lacks top-end speed and isn't big enough to run over people. If you only weigh 210 or less, you need to have breakaway speed, which he lacks. He is an amazing runner with great balance, vision, first-step explosion, and elusiveness. If only he had better speed.... I hope he stays in school and goes for the Heisman next year with the very overrated Matthew Stafford gone to the NFL.
What was Portis's 40 time? Is Portis a good comparison for Moreno?
 
:goodposting:I traded Willie Parker a midseason last year for two 1st round picks (2008/2009), and got the #7 overall pick, and the poor guy is doing even worse now, and I will likely get his #2 or #3 overall pick.So I'm really interested in this crop, as my RBs are really weak right now.
McCoy and Moreno ... write them down already.Hope the guy with #1 grabs Wells.
I am a Georgia homer but I have to say that Moreno will not be nearly as good at the NFL level as alot of people seem to think. He lacks top-end speed and isn't big enough to run over people. If you only weigh 210 or less, you need to have breakaway speed, which he lacks. He is an amazing runner with great balance, vision, first-step explosion, and elusiveness. If only he had better speed.... I hope he stays in school and goes for the Heisman next year with the very overrated Matthew Stafford gone to the NFL.
What was Portis's 40 time? Is Portis a good comparison for Moreno?
Portis is a bigger version of Moreno, those 20 lbs make all the difference in the world at the next level as their games are quite similar.
 
:lol:

I traded Willie Parker a midseason last year for two 1st round picks (2008/2009), and got the #7 overall pick, and the poor guy is doing even worse now, and I will likely get his #2 or #3 overall pick.

So I'm really interested in this crop, as my RBs are really weak right now.
McCoy and Moreno ... write them down already.Hope the guy with #1 grabs Wells.
I am a Georgia homer but I have to say that Moreno will not be nearly as good at the NFL level as alot of people seem to think. He lacks top-end speed and isn't big enough to run over people. If you only weigh 210 or less, you need to have breakaway speed, which he lacks. He is an amazing runner with great balance, vision, first-step explosion, and elusiveness. If only he had better speed.... I hope he stays in school and goes for the Heisman next year with the very overrated Matthew Stafford gone to the NFL.
What was Portis's 40 time? Is Portis a good comparison for Moreno?
Portis is a bigger version of Moreno, those 20 lbs make all the difference in the world at the next level as their games are quite similar.
I have no idea how accurate this is, but Portis is listed at 5-11 / 206 and 5-11 212 while Moreno is listed at 5-11 / 207, 5-11 208 and 5-11 / 208
 
:lol:

I traded Willie Parker a midseason last year for two 1st round picks (2008/2009), and got the #7 overall pick, and the poor guy is doing even worse now, and I will likely get his #2 or #3 overall pick.

So I'm really interested in this crop, as my RBs are really weak right now.
McCoy and Moreno ... write them down already.Hope the guy with #1 grabs Wells.
I am a Georgia homer but I have to say that Moreno will not be nearly as good at the NFL level as alot of people seem to think. He lacks top-end speed and isn't big enough to run over people. If you only weigh 210 or less, you need to have breakaway speed, which he lacks. He is an amazing runner with great balance, vision, first-step explosion, and elusiveness. If only he had better speed.... I hope he stays in school and goes for the Heisman next year with the very overrated Matthew Stafford gone to the NFL.
What was Portis's 40 time? Is Portis a good comparison for Moreno?
Portis is a bigger version of Moreno, those 20 lbs make all the difference in the world at the next level as their games are quite similar.
I have no idea how accurate this is, but Portis is listed at 5-11 / 206 and 5-11 212 while Moreno is listed at 5-11 / 207, 5-11 208 and 5-11 / 208
Portis, Clinton RB 5-11 221That is what the nfl.com and cbs list Portis at now. I would guess that, as a pro, Moreno will bulk up to a similar weight. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy and his heart, but it is his missing top speed gear which will keep him from being a special NFL back.

 

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