Grahamburn
Footballguy
Lot of shade in here.
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WR Keon Coleman, BUF (1 Viewer)
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Hankmoody
Footballguy
Winning off the line when you get a stutter step, or an inside release, or an outside release, or against a press, or when going in motion. I have yet to see an NFL WR get down in a sprinter's stance and the NFL DB line up right next to him in a sprinter's stance and they both run in a straight line unimpeded.
Big Nate
Footballguy
How many times do players line up in a sprinters start?
Moreover - good thing these guys have 3-4 years of tape to see how they get off the line with actual coverage. But no, lets get super hyped for 1 or 2 sprinting starts....
Big Nate
Footballguy
This is the key point right here. How will he fair when hes battling NFL corners? I think this guy has a lot of talents and he could keep improving over the next couple years - if he keeps working on his routes.
The vertical is solid, the broad jump is very good and you can see the athleticism and power he has. How are the routes and how will that translate in the NFL?
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
He might have the best hands in this class.
At his size that is not something to be ignored. He'll be a good value pick for someone at the back of the 1st/early 2nd I think.
At his size that is not something to be ignored. He'll be a good value pick for someone at the back of the 1st/early 2nd I think.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
That's the big question. He doesn't really win with separation created by sharp routes. Lots of contested catches due to strong hands and his size.
massraider
Footballguy
I dunno where he ends up.
This is a bigger concept than Coleman, but just the order of teams, what they want in a WR, who they like, and the jumble of talent at WR, I think it's a fools errand to guess the spot for any of these WRs, after the big 3.
3rd round is gonna have WRs that got mocked, at some point, in the 1st round.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
a WR that cant separate in college, and wins on contested balls isn't the type of guy i want at the next level.
It's the main reason ive been out all along... But we'll see. He's got a lot of room to grow and can get better. I might miss out on a future stud, but my buy price almost guarantees i wont own him anywhere
It's the main reason ive been out all along... But we'll see. He's got a lot of room to grow and can get better. I might miss out on a future stud, but my buy price almost guarantees i wont own him anywhere
Wigglytuff's Gruff
Footballguy
Back of the 1st/early 2nd was in reference to fantasy rookie drafts.
Yeah I have no clue about where he goes in the real draft. Range of outcomes seems very large for him. I could definitely see him being a 1st or 3rd round pick.
SuperFantasyFootballGuy
Footballguy
I was surprised to see him get so much hate in this thread. I view him as a (much slower) Julio Jones but whenever I watched FSU play he jumped off the screen as a man amongst boys. You know where separation doesn't matter? The redzone. This guy is a threat to score 10+ touchdowns immediately catching fades over people.
How many teams would he go to and immediately be their best RZ threat? There are plenty of comparisons in the league, Mike Williams ran a 4.54 for instance and has been plenty fantasy viable. He's a throwback, but he reminds me of Sidney Rice (Minnesota) as well, a rich man's Sidney Rice. Do you guys remember Plaxico Burress? He ran a 4.59 as well. The mold is there, if you pair him with a guy like Matthew Stafford or Josh Allen who aren't afraid to throw into coverage, he is the kind of guy who when he is covered, he's open. Kenny Golladay is another good comp (4.5 40, 6,4).
Targetting him in all my dynasty drafts. I could be wrong, but based on the hate I am seeing it won't cost me much to find out. If he was coming out 20 years ago, he'd be a Top 5 pick. 6 ft 4 receiver running a 4.61 used to be good. When you add in the fact he's one of those players who is "faster" in pads, I really like him. I think he's much closer to a 4.5 forty guy on the field.
He's going to be a nightmare for smaller corners and a smart OC will move him around like you would a TE mismatch.
How many teams would he go to and immediately be their best RZ threat? There are plenty of comparisons in the league, Mike Williams ran a 4.54 for instance and has been plenty fantasy viable. He's a throwback, but he reminds me of Sidney Rice (Minnesota) as well, a rich man's Sidney Rice. Do you guys remember Plaxico Burress? He ran a 4.59 as well. The mold is there, if you pair him with a guy like Matthew Stafford or Josh Allen who aren't afraid to throw into coverage, he is the kind of guy who when he is covered, he's open. Kenny Golladay is another good comp (4.5 40, 6,4).
Targetting him in all my dynasty drafts. I could be wrong, but based on the hate I am seeing it won't cost me much to find out. If he was coming out 20 years ago, he'd be a Top 5 pick. 6 ft 4 receiver running a 4.61 used to be good. When you add in the fact he's one of those players who is "faster" in pads, I really like him. I think he's much closer to a 4.5 forty guy on the field.
He's going to be a nightmare for smaller corners and a smart OC will move him around like you would a TE mismatch.
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Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
Projecting him to the Bills specifically forces me to remember the atomic bust of a pick that was James Hardy (RIP).
Coleman has some awesome highlights for sure but in a deep WR draft this guy is a huge gamble.
Faust
MVP
The 33rd Team
Keon Coleman only had 2 drops on 87 targets last season
Makes me think they don't view him as a big slot.
And that is unfortunate for them.
