Jeremy Hill is arguably on a par with off-field issues.
Haven't noticed any outcry about drafting him.
That's a tough argument to make. I don't think Hill is on par at all.Also, Hill was drafted... In the 2nd round mind you. Lyerla was not draft... At all. Many here are presenting this as if Lyerla was actually a better talent than Hill. Yet every NFL team still passed him by. I'm sure those teams all dug I to this pretty well. Better than any of us could for sure. Maybe it's because his issues were significantly worse. Maybe it's because his level of talent is being significantly exaggerated. Either way, the difference is rather startling.
Isaiah crowell got passed by every team, yet some are still high on him...
Yeah, some but not me. Seems like an FBG fad this year to try and prop up these diamond in the rough types.
Crowell and Lyerla both have talent on the football field to be the best in this class at their position if they can straighten out. This isn't really a controversial view. Some might like picks without character risk who have lower ceilings in the 3rd/4th round of their rookie drafts, that comes down to philosophy. I wouldn't really call it a fad because Matt and I (among others) have always emphasized upside/talent over risk in our rookie rankings.
I don't think this is at all true and we've gone down this path earlier, Crowell and Seastrunk rankings. I also don't think NFL teams feel this is at all true. Otherwise they wouldn't let guys who have best in class talent go undrafted. Lots of other guys with problems were drafted. A guy like J. Hill had arguably just as many issues Crowell and he was taken in round 2. I don't think there is anyone that carries with them the level of concern that Lyerla does. Still, it's odd to say a guy who has the best talent at his position was allowed to go completely undrafted. I'm sorry, but I just don't think the NFL allows that to happen. If anyone in the NFL actually believe he had that much ability they would have used a pick on him, even if it was a late pick. The problem isnt favoring upside talent over risk. The problem is overstating the upside compared to the risk. This was the exact problem I had with the predraft rankings and it's still the problem I have with it now. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, Lyerla is being drafted ahead of every TE other than Ebron in dynasty food rafts I've seen. That is ridiculous.