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He doesn't stink, it's just a lot of "glass half empty" and general negative mentality in this forum. I guarantee you he is better than anyone else on the DL in stopping the run. That alone makes him worth adding, even for a late 2nd rd pick. Now back to your regularly scheduled program.
Did you do this in subsequent posts or should I quit reading? If you did pls forward copies to Irsay, TIA.Re. McFarland, I agree they overpaid, but also agree that at least they are trying SOMETHING...their run D is pathetic and there aren't exactly a lot of FA DTs who are likely to make much of a diff, even on that pathetic squad. McFarland might not, but wtf worth a shot. PS and oh btw contract details anyone.....
Booger isn't a nose tackle. He's supposed to be a penetrating, disruptive force from the undertackle position. He has shown flashes of that ability, but has disappointed for the most part. He doesn't regularly disrupt the pocket or draw double teams. He probably will help the Colts some, but he's unlikely to be a huge improvement.And the Bucs will have a shot at getting an awful good player with a late second round pick. They've liked Ellis Wyms much better than Booger for awhile now and paid him handsomely this past offseason. Booger was expendable.pizzatyme said:
Booger is signed through 2008. 2007 salary: 5.5M2008 salary: 6.85M:X
For those that don't know, from the six drafts between 1998 and 2003, the Bucs selected exactly TWO first round picks, due to all the picks given up for Keyshawn and Gruden and trading up for Kenyatta Walker. Those two picks were Anthony McFarland and Kenyatta, who have been average at best. They also did not have second round picks in 01, 02, and 04.That's why the defense is old, we haven't been able to replace any of them. And the offense is young because they've all been drafted in the last 2-3 drafts.
Without reading all the posts in this thread, why "didn't it work out here the way it could've"? If memory serves, he was a pretty good player from time to time.
Jene's post #53 said it best. They were paying him to be the next Warren Sapp at the "premier" under tackle position. In the Tampa 2 defense, that position has to be disruptive, making plays and making a difference, not just being a "pretty good" fat guy taking up space. For example, Tommie Harris for the Bears, or a young Warren Sapp on the Bucs.Plus he was always injured. Him and Brian Kelly must be best friends, with all the time they've spent in the trainer's room together. It's just too bad we couldn't get a 2nd rounder for BK, too.Why wasn't he disruptive? That's beyond my knowledge, really. It certainly can't all be blamed on injuries. As to whether it was desire, work ethic, talent, skill, who knows?
Let me count the ways:- He never put any pressure on the QB...he hasn't had a sack since early '05.- He couldn't stop the run...NFL teams have known since Sapp left to attack the Bucs Run D up the middle- He was oft injured- He never came up big in big games, including missing the entire '02 playoffs- He wasn't even enough of a presence to draw a double-team anymore...that moving to Hovan.Honestly, I like Booger and think he is a great personality and a decent guy, and like Indy and hope he does well there. But he was a complete NON-FACTOR in Tampa and making way too much money to do so.Maybe a change of scenery will help, but I just don't see much of an upside.
He was playing next to Sapp when Sapp was still Sapp, right? Brad Culpepper also looked like an All-Pro in that situation.
Not to mention that he gave the D a leader up front that knew firsthand what it took to get a ring.
at comparing Booger to Sapp.Booger was doing nothing, NOTHING, in Tampa the past few years. It was time for him to go. The guy either didn't care or didn't have it any longer.No idea how he played in Indy all year, but the only time I noticed him in the playoffs was the KC game and the sack in the Super Bowl. Either way, it was worth it to Tampa to get another #2 in the draft. And if it was worth it to Indy to get a ring, then even better.
All year the Colts were the laughing stock of the league on rush defense. When i was writing the weekly threads for RB I would see that there was one missing ingredient to the Colts and it was not Booger McFarland. This defense got good in a hurry when Bob Sanders finally made it back from injury. No Sanders, no SB Rings...no Booger, possibly still OK in that playoff run. When the Bears lost Safety Brown for the season I went on record as saying how hard of a loss that would be to that defense. Next you throw in Tommie Harris and you have a recipe for disaster if they don't commit 7 and 8 men to the box...they went with 4 and 5 in the box during the SB and Manning, Rhodes, and Joseph Addai tore them up underneath and through the line all night. I'm not trying to pick a fight, but Capella along with the rest of the Bucsfans are not incorrect in saying McFarland was not a factor. Look at the year the Bucs won the SB...who was standing on the sideline in street clothes while the Bucs defense mauled the Raiders? McFarland...and you can see him in the SB highlights ESPN runs every year. Booger has made no impact since hitting the NFL...he is average, truly.
Maybe this was the real secret to the Colts D http://www.asslete.com/index.php?option=co...=view&id=38
Yes.Is he that wrong?way to show off that GED guy.
If Tampa gave Dungy time they would have had a ring and still been winning today... Enjoy your return to mediocrity.
yea right. that salary cap disaster would've just magically disappeared with dungy at the helm.Yes.Is he that wrong?way to show off that GED guy.
If Tampa gave Dungy time they would have had a ring and still been winning today... Enjoy your return to mediocrity.
Average (and a guy who knows the system) is still better than Darrell Reid and Dan Klecko, one of whom would have been a starter on the Colts DL if they didn't make the trade. With one of them as a starter, they would not have won the Super Bowl even with Sanders.
Wyms has a sack in 3 consecutive games....Booger hasn't had one is how long?
