Commish Question: How Would You Handle (1 Viewer)

[Jefferson the Caregiver]

Defensive score corrections seem to be rampant this year. I have seen 3 1 point or tie games reversed after the fact do to a defensive scoring question later in the week. This has been on sportsline/nfl.com.

This last one we didn't notice for a full week later and only because it became obvious in the standings.

What would you do if it's the playoffs, you had the matchups set and then someone came to you after the next playoff game had finished saying they should have been in that game, not their opponent. Obviously there are a lot of problems to consider, aside from the fact that it's a week after the fact, you also have a starting lineup issue because the guy didn't get to choose his lineup either.

 

[CalBear]

This should be covered in your rules; at a certain point, the results are final. For us it's Wednesday.

You certainly can't roll back an already-played game. Just like with a review on the field, once the extra point is kicked, the chance for review is over.

 

[JohnnyU]

It's simple really. You do two things. One, you always go by what the hosting site says the official scoring is. Two, all scoring changes must take place before the next week's games start. EOS.

 

[Jefferson the Caregiver]

It's simple really. You do two things. One, you always go by what the hosting site says the official scoring is. Two, all scoring changes must take place before the next week's games start. EOS.

I don't think the latter is actually that simple.We have no idea when this scoring correction came in, Sportsline didn't notify us, they just corrected and reversed out the game. Sure, it could have been before the next Thursday's game but we have no idea. It got noticed today, be kind of tough to tell the Corrected Winner that he didn't win the game because we have no idea when the score change came in.

 

[Diamond One]

It's simple really. You do two things. One, you always go by what the hosting site says the official scoring is. Two, all scoring changes must take place before the next week's games start. EOS.

I don't think the latter is actually that simple.We have no idea when this scoring correction came in, Sportsline didn't notify us, they just corrected and reversed out the game. Sure, it could have been before the next Thursday's game but we have no idea. It got noticed today, be kind of tough to tell the Corrected Winner that he didn't win the game because we have no idea when the score change came in.

In Sportsline, you can over-ride just about anything to adjust the standings -- IF you know where it is. You would think the owner in question could nail this for you -- or at least give you a good idea where to look. The bigger thing in my mind is though, what do your league rules & bylaws say? If it is not published, you can either put it to a league vote or leave it as is and write a rule that specifically speaks to this situation for next season. Never been a big fan of in-season rule changes myself, but that is just IMHO.

 

[Jefferson the Caregiver]

It's simple really. You do two things. One, you always go by what the hosting site says the official scoring is. Two, all scoring changes must take place before the next week's games start. EOS.

I don't think the latter is actually that simple.We have no idea when this scoring correction came in, Sportsline didn't notify us, they just corrected and reversed out the game. Sure, it could have been before the next Thursday's game but we have no idea. It got noticed today, be kind of tough to tell the Corrected Winner that he didn't win the game because we have no idea when the score change came in.

In Sportsline, you can over-ride just about anything to adjust the standings -- IF you know where it is. You would think the owner in question could nail this for you -- or at least give you a good idea where to look. The bigger thing in my mind is though, what do your league rules & bylaws say? If it is not published, you can either put it to a league vote or leave it as is and write a rule that specifically speaks to this situation for next season. Never been a big fan of in-season rule changes myself, but that is just IMHO.

It's really not a matter of being able to override the standings, we can do that, no problem.So in leagues where you say all scoring changes must be final by a certain day, do you make it up to the owners to detect the scoring change? If its a case in my example, we have no idea what day the scoring change came in on, we just know that sportsline changed it.

 

[CalBear]

There's decent information in the Help Center:

We receive many questions about when statistics on our site become official. Please note that live scoring stats you see during games are NOT official. We receive official game stats each night/early morning after games are played. These stats come from the official stat provider of the NFL. By approximately 9:00 AM ET on days after NFL games are played, the stats you see on our site are considered official. Note that occasionally the NFL will make an official scoring change within a day or more after games are played. If we receive their scoring change by Tuesday, we will update the site. Anything we receive after that is not included on the site.

 

[Utter Chaos]

I say leave it the way it is. If the owner lost a game that was that close and a playoff berth was on the line he should have been checking for stat changes everyday. A week later is way too late to change it, especially when he didn't submit a lineup.

Also just curious why a league starts their playoffs in week 11.

 

[fatkid]

MyFantasy league has a forum where scoring updates are posted. I let all my owners know about that forum at the beginning of the year. Our scores are final at kickoff of the next week. All owners can request all scoring updates from that week be applied to all teams. That has happened a couple of times. More often than not, owners never complain, and the scores never get updated.

Regardless, you need to have a rule when scores are final. Announce it to the league now when their is no existing controversy and have it go forward. I don't believe in changing rules during the year, but I do believe in clarifying them to avoid problems later.

 

[Diamond One]

It's simple really. You do two things. One, you always go by what the hosting site says the official scoring is. Two, all scoring changes must take place before the next week's games start. EOS.

I don't think the latter is actually that simple.We have no idea when this scoring correction came in, Sportsline didn't notify us, they just corrected and reversed out the game. Sure, it could have been before the next Thursday's game but we have no idea. It got noticed today, be kind of tough to tell the Corrected Winner that he didn't win the game because we have no idea when the score change came in.

In Sportsline, you can over-ride just about anything to adjust the standings -- IF you know where it is. You would think the owner in question could nail this for you -- or at least give you a good idea where to look. The bigger thing in my mind is though, what do your league rules & bylaws say? If it is not published, you can either put it to a league vote or leave it as is and write a rule that specifically speaks to this situation for next season. Never been a big fan of in-season rule changes myself, but that is just IMHO.

It's really not a matter of being able to override the standings, we can do that, no problem.So in leagues where you say all scoring changes must be final by a certain day, do you make it up to the owners to detect the scoring change? If its a case in my example, we have no idea what day the scoring change came in on, we just know that sportsline changed it.

I hear ya, and my response is yes and no -- and it directly deals with your league rules. May I ask if you have contacted Sportsline direct for assistance with your particular issue though? Regardless, Sportsline is actually pretty good with stats, so what CalBear posted is absolutley accurate. Agreed, s*** happens from time-to-time and can signifigantly impact a league -- as seems to be in your case here. What I was trying to get at though with my comments is this:** Are scoring situations like these spoken to in your league rules? If not, then IMO (in this case) you have to go by what the "Official NFL Stats" are regardless of when they posted. Again, MY OPINION ONLY on this particular problem. ** Is there a policy in place on what the "League Dispute Policy" is regardless of the issue? Does it boil down to a "Commish Final Decision" only? League Vote / Majority Rules? Whatever it is, it really should be defined to head off future "WTF" situations like these. Or ones we have yet to imagine!** Why did it take the owner so long to identify this? This speaks to owner involvement and situational awareness. Even if unintentional by the owner, the lack of a league rule or policy is why it is now your responsibility to hunt for a needle in a haystack. You hate to see anyone get screwed unjustly, but as "The Commish" it's going to happen if your rules, policies and procedures are not defined to address the unexpected. Just my 2.3-Cent Policy Brief for future operations, that's all. Best of luck whatever you decide!