Conditional start/sit based on GTD (1 Viewer)

[FreeBaGeL]

"Game-time decisions" are getting kind of out of control in the world of fantasy football. While we're all huge into fantasy football, requiring that we be around with undistracted accessed to the internet every Sunday from 12:30-12:55 can strain even the most committed FFer. Even worse, the most important week of the year (championship week) takes place right smack-dab in the middle of the holidays where people are often not able to track things as closely as they usually do.

Coaches are throwing the GTD label around on anyone and everyone nowadays. It's pretty ridiculous that a guy who's a GTD one week misses not only that game but the next one AFTER that as well. If he wasn't going to be ready for two weeks, did they really think he was going to be ready in a few hours? Then we have the competing websites all looking to get a jump on the competition and be the first to report if a player is playing or not and delivering the wrong information (and really, these clowns need to start being held accountable for this kind of stuff). In the end it just ends up being a giant mess for those rare Sundays where we aren't able to put our friends and family second.

It seems about time that the major FF websites start incorporating something into their lineup submissions that allow people to use a conditional alternate starter for questionable players that are deemed inactive. Since the websites are unlikely to do this any time soon, here is the new rule I'm going to propose to me league in the offseason:

If a player is listed on the injury report as Questionable or Doubtful, owners may declare an alternate starter to take that player's place if the player is ruled inactive.

This would basically be applied retroactively by me (the commissioner) after the active/inactive decision is made. That means even if your GTD was playing at 4pm and your replacement was playing at 1pm, you could still list the 1pm player as your replacement so long as you list him prior to the start time of his game. From there, if the 4pm player is ruled inactive, I would put the 1pm player into that team's lineup even if he has already played.

So, what are your thoughts? Obviously this wouldn't cover everything (for instance some guys are listed as active as an emergency QB or something, in which case they'd still be stuck in the lineup with 0pts since they're not inactive), but it's a start. The only downside that I can see to it is that it's going to screw up live scoring a bit if the commish is slow to plug in the replacement manually.

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

Ours has this but commish has to be notified. Agree that websites need to catch up and have this as an option (maybe some do?)

 

[Buck Bradcanon]

Only thing I would add to the way you have it listed is to designate a single, consistent source for the Ques/Doubt listing (most likely nfl.com).

Sounds obvious but you want everyone looking at the official injury report..dont want an owner quoting espn or cbs as they throw around the ques tag more loosely.

 

[boubucarow]

In a past league of friends, each starting lineup would contain a backup at each position if possible. The backup would be played if a player was ruled out.

 

[kardplayer]

Almost all of my leagues do this. We use Sportsline, and so if there is a "red plus" next to their name, they are eligible for this. Myfantasyleague also lists the official report status - so at least those 2 sites have the injury report available. I assume Yahoo and ESPN do too.

Even bigger issue at this time of year is that there were games that were scheduled for Thursday, Saturday, Sunday at 1, Sunday at 4, Sunday night, Monday night. If you don't have this in place, you get stuck with ADP in your lineup last Monday night (and possibly this Tuesday night) during a playoff week if you don't have good backups.

Has made FFL way more enjoyable for me.

 

[mashers]

Am I the only one who thinks this is weak? I say make a decision and take your chances. People are complaining that the NFL is becoming dummied down. Isn't this dummying down fantasy football?

 

[fsufan]

Am I the only one who thinks this is weak? I say make a decision and take your chances. People are complaining that the NFL is becoming dummied down. Isn't this dummying down fantasy football?

Just adds more luck to it. Making starting line up decisions is part of FF. The FF owners that do well year in year out are the ones that put the most into it.

 

[mr roboto]

Am I the only one who thinks this is weak? I say make a decision and take your chances. People are complaining that the NFL is becoming dummied dummed down. Isn't this dummying down fantasy football?

Fixed. Ironic, though...No, it's not weak. It's a great idea. The point of FF is to compile a team of good stat producing players. I am always gone from 11am-12:30pm (Central time) on Sundays. So I miss kickoff and the beginning of the first games. If I could put in conditional players, that would be great.

I don't know about you, but I hate a cheap win. I really do. If you are fine winning simply because your opponent can't dedicate as much time to the hobby as you, then you are probably the only one patting yourself on the back.

 

[Traders2001]

Am I the only one who thinks this is weak? I say make a decision and take your chances. People are complaining that the NFL is becoming dummied down. Isn't this dummying down fantasy football?

 

[(HULK)]

Back when I had my failed little fantasy football company, we wrote about 1/2 of the software to fix this. Auto sub in for out players. Too bad I'm too busy and poor to continue on such projects.

 

[gianmarco]

Am I the only one who thinks this is weak? I say make a decision and take your chances. People are complaining that the NFL is becoming dummied down. Isn't this dummying down fantasy football?

How is it weak? Ask yourself this question. You put Adrian Peterson in your lineup. If you're in front of a computer 1 hour before gametime, you hear he's inactive, you look at your roster and put in the next best player. Question--What's the difference if you do it 1 hour before gametime or if you do it 5 hours before gametime or 5 days before gametime? It's still the same decision. The only thing that changes is computer access. If it's something you would otherwise do if sitting in front of a computer, then why not allow that same change ahead of time and allow people to not be glued to their electronics? It's not a "make a decision and take your chances" because you have every opportunity to sit down in front of a computer 30 minutes before gametime and make the change. Being available on a computer at 12:30 vs. having a day out with your wife and kids or working doesn't make you a better owner. It only means you have more free time on a given week.Also, this doesn't change the time that an injured player is on a limited snap count or reinjures or anything like that. It's only for when they are listed as INACTIVE and will not be taking the field. As that is announced well ahead of gametime, EVERY owner has the opportunity to take the player out and make a substitution. The only variable is computer access and that's all this kind of rule tries to remedy.

 

[ffchamp1]

"Game-time decisions" are getting kind of out of control in the world of fantasy football. While we're all huge into fantasy football, requiring that we be around with undistracted accessed to the internet every Sunday from 12:30-12:55 can strain even the most committed FFer. Even worse, the most important week of the year (championship week) takes place right smack-dab in the middle of the holidays where people are often not able to track things as closely as they usually do.

Coaches are throwing the GTD label around on anyone and everyone nowadays. It's pretty ridiculous that a guy who's a GTD one week misses not only that game but the next one AFTER that as well. If he wasn't going to be ready for two weeks, did they really think he was going to be ready in a few hours? Then we have the competing websites all looking to get a jump on the competition and be the first to report if a player is playing or not and delivering the wrong information (and really, these clowns need to start being held accountable for this kind of stuff). In the end it just ends up being a giant mess for those rare Sundays where we aren't able to put our friends and family second.

It seems about time that the major FF websites start incorporating something into their lineup submissions that allow people to use a conditional alternate starter for questionable players that are deemed inactive. Since the websites are unlikely to do this any time soon, here is the new rule I'm going to propose to me league in the offseason:

If a player is listed on the injury report as Questionable or Doubtful, owners may declare an alternate starter to take that player's place if the player is ruled inactive.

This would basically be applied retroactively by me (the commissioner) after the active/inactive decision is made. That means even if your GTD was playing at 4pm and your replacement was playing at 1pm, you could still list the 1pm player as your replacement so long as you list him prior to the start time of his game. From there, if the 4pm player is ruled inactive, I would put the 1pm player into that team's lineup even if he has already played.

So, what are your thoughts? Obviously this wouldn't cover everything (for instance some guys are listed as active as an emergency QB or something, in which case they'd still be stuck in the lineup with 0pts since they're not inactive), but it's a start. The only downside that I can see to it is that it's going to screw up live scoring a bit if the commish is slow to plug in the replacement manually.

Been doing it for years on MFL. We rank our reserves at every position and if a player is inactive or is a DNP, the highest ranked reserve is put in by the commish.The commish has to make the switch but it takes just a second.

 

[theplayer11]

weak idea..with today's technology and hand held devices to make changes, I'm not buying that people aren't able to make changes. As someone posted, those that follow it closely should have the advantage..just like everything else in the world. Sounds like a nice liberal idea..another entitlement?

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Am I the only one who thinks this is weak? I say make a decision and take your chances. People are complaining that the NFL is becoming dummied down. Isn't this dummying down fantasy football?

There are a million versions of fantasy football now, in how you draft, the scoring systems, roster sizes, teams in the league, redraft or not. Fantasy football is a dynamic hobby and this is just one more way to play it. Personally, I don't like dynasty leagues and favor non ppr leagues. Some guys may love dynasty leagues and only play in PPR leagues. My point is you may not like this way.......and that's OK. It's also OK that others may like it for various reasons.Another option that the OP should consider getting involved in is when you draft your team, your entire team is eligible to put up points for that week. That way you certainly hope your player plays as it gives you one more guy in that position slot but if he doesn't, you've got coverage. Those types of leagues are becoming more and more popular as well.

 

[jackdubl]

Almost all of my leagues do this. We use Sportsline, and so if there is a "red plus" next to their name, they are eligible for this. Myfantasyleague also lists the official report status - so at least those 2 sites have the injury report available. I assume Yahoo and ESPN do too.

Even bigger issue at this time of year is that there were games that were scheduled for Thursday, Saturday, Sunday at 1, Sunday at 4, Sunday night, Monday night. If you don't have this in place, you get stuck with ADP in your lineup last Monday night (and possibly this Tuesday night) during a playoff week if you don't have good backups.

Has made FFL way more enjoyable for me.

All of the days football is now played would seem to make this more necessary. I hear the NFL is trying to extend Thursday football to cover the entire season. I had to get a smartphone to make sure I could make last second roster moves.

 

[Philo]

I can't imagine the d-bag of a commish that wouldn't do this for an owner if he was politely emailed about it a day or two before. Doesn't even require the commish to do it on gameday if he emails the opponent beforehand to let him know, he can do it retroactively. I really can't imagine the d-bag of an opponent that wouldn't allow it, either.

"Dear commish, I'm going to be unable to get to the website on game day due to family reasons. Right now, I've got Adrian Peterson in my lineup with Gerhart on the bench, but if Peterson is ruled inactive for the game before kickoff, I won't be able to switch the two. If Peterson is officially inactive, can you plug in Gerhart for me? Thanks."

Commish then sends to the opponent: "FYI, if Peterson is officially inactive tomorrow night, your opponent will be playing Gerhart in his place. Neither him nor me will be online between the release of the inactives list and kickoff, though, due to family commitments. So it won't be updated on the website, but, that's what'll be going on, so if you're rooting along at home, don't start celebrating once the inactives list comes out."

Anyone really going to be the guy that says "#### NO! If he can't be online between 6 and 7 PM, he loses!!!!"? Where's the sportsmanship in that?

 

[ldizzle]

Am I the only one who thinks this is weak? I say make a decision and take your chances. People are complaining that the NFL is becoming dummied down. Isn't this dummying down fantasy football?

How is it weak? Ask yourself this question. You put Adrian Peterson in your lineup. If you're in front of a computer 1 hour before gametime, you hear he's inactive, you look at your roster and put in the next best player. Question--What's the difference if you do it 1 hour before gametime or if you do it 5 hours before gametime or 5 days before gametime? It's still the same decision. The only thing that changes is computer access. If it's something you would otherwise do if sitting in front of a computer, then why not allow that same change ahead of time and allow people to not be glued to their electronics? It's not a "make a decision and take your chances" because you have every opportunity to sit down in front of a computer 30 minutes before gametime and make the change. Also, this doesn't change the time that an injured player is on a limited snap count or reinjures or anything like that. It's only for when they are listed as INACTIVE and will not be taking the field. As that is announced well ahead of gametime, EVERY owner has the opportunity to take the player out and make a substitution. The only variable is computer access and that's all this kind of rule tries to remedy.

weak idea..with today's technology and hand held devices to make changes, I'm not buying that people aren't able to make changes. As someone posted, those that follow it closely should have the advantage..just like everything else in the world. Sounds like a nice liberal idea..another entitlement?

The OP was suggesting that even if the GTD was for a monday game and that player is out for monday, your sub player for sundays game gets put in...interesting.

 

[Doug B]

Best-ball leagues are the answer for folks with the OP's concerns.

 

[Death Bytes]

Am I the only one who thinks this is weak? I say make a decision and take your chances. People are complaining that the NFL is becoming dummied down. Isn't this dummying down fantasy football?

Terrell Owens was a question mark going into week 15, and despite starting, he left the game in the middle of the first series never to return again. It's not like you are out of the woods just because a game time decision turned out to play. Health/injury is one of the many factors of having to decide who to start, and who not to start. Make your decision and run with it.

 

[montana_grizzly_bears]

Our rule has this for any player that was listed as questionable for the last injury report of the week:

Questionable Rule

There is no compensation for injured players. There will be injury reports listed on the web site. Injury reports come from NFL.com. If a player is listed as doubtful or out on the injury report, you may not start that player. If a player is listed as probable, you may start the player, but if he does not play, you simply get zero points for that player. If a player is listed as questionable, you have the option of starting him, and naming a back-up player as well. If he plays one play of the game, then you get the points for that player for that game. If he does not play, the back-up player is placed into your line-up and his points will count towards your team instead. If no back-up player is named and a player that was set to start was listed as questionable and does not play, I place the highest rated back-up player into that line-up as a replacement. The ratings are determined by player stats. If no eligible players have stats yet, then the top drafted player will be placed into the line-up. If no eligible players have stats or have been drafted than the player first picked up in free agency will be placed into the line-up. The same system of determining who will be placed into the line-up is used in the case of a player being listed as out or doubtful if the owner does not send in a line-up that accounts for the injury.

 

[duaneok66]

Am I the only one who thinks this is weak? I say make a decision and take your chances. People are complaining that the NFL is becoming dummied down. Isn't this dummying down fantasy football?

How is it weak? Ask yourself this question. You put Adrian Peterson in your lineup. If you're in front of a computer 1 hour before gametime, you hear he's inactive, you look at your roster and put in the next best player. Question--What's the difference if you do it 1 hour before gametime or if you do it 5 hours before gametime or 5 days before gametime? It's still the same decision. The only thing that changes is computer access. If it's something you would otherwise do if sitting in front of a computer, then why not allow that same change ahead of time and allow people to not be glued to their electronics? It's not a "make a decision and take your chances" because you have every opportunity to sit down in front of a computer 30 minutes before gametime and make the change. Also, this doesn't change the time that an injured player is on a limited snap count or reinjures or anything like that. It's only for when they are listed as INACTIVE and will not be taking the field. As that is announced well ahead of gametime, EVERY owner has the opportunity to take the player out and make a substitution. The only variable is computer access and that's all this kind of rule tries to remedy.

weak idea..with today's technology and hand held devices to make changes, I'm not buying that people aren't able to make changes. As someone posted, those that follow it closely should have the advantage..just like everything else in the world. Sounds like a nice liberal idea..another entitlement?

The OP was suggesting that even if the GTD was for a monday game and that player is out for monday, your sub player for sundays game gets put in...interesting.

I definitely don't agree with that . . . at least you would have to declare all your reserves before the start of the first game to make it fair . . .I'm with the camp that says to let each guy run his team on his own and take health factors into account when running his team - no subs . . .

 

[golfguy]

this is one of the many reasons why i am leaning toward only playing in best lineup leagues anymore. it's just to time consuming.

 

[fantasyplayer]

Am I the only one who thinks this is weak? I say make a decision and take your chances. People are complaining that the NFL is becoming dummied down. Isn't this dummying down fantasy football?

How is it weak?

Ask yourself this question. You put Adrian Peterson in your lineup. If you're in front of a computer 1 hour before gametime, you hear he's inactive, you look at your roster and put in the next best player.

Question--What's the difference if you do it 1 hour before gametime or if you do it 5 hours before gametime or 5 days before gametime? It's still the same decision. The only thing that changes is computer access. If it's something you would otherwise do if sitting in front of a computer, then why not allow that same change ahead of time and allow people to not be glued to their electronics? It's not a "make a decision and take your chances" because you have every opportunity to sit down in front of a computer 30 minutes before gametime and make the change.

Also, this doesn't change the time that an injured player is on a limited snap count or reinjures or anything like that. It's only for when they are listed as INACTIVE and will not be taking the field. As that is announced well ahead of gametime, EVERY owner has the opportunity to take the player out and make a substitution. The only variable is computer access and that's all this kind of rule tries to remedy.

Good posting!I for one am in favor of rewarding skill and preparedness in my leagues. Not simply one's availability to be at their computer at 12:45 on Sundays.

 

[belljr]

We do this for playoffs only. Regular season you have to make the "tough" decision but once playoffs start we want everyone's "best" effort. You have to post it on the message board and it's only if the player becomes inactive. No complaints the past 16 years

SO basically on Sunday morning I say start Peterson if not start Jahvid Best. We don't have to only sub players from that game

Agree or disagree we feel if you get that far in the playoffs you shouldn't be penalized for some late game GTD.

 

[domvin]

In a league I commish, and it's 120.00 a team, we have had this rule for Injured/game time decisions for the past 3 years.

We call it the Belichec Rule-I believe bc we implemented it at the time of Spygate

4. Starting Lineup

The starting lineup for all GFFL teams is:

1-QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, 1-TE, 1-Flex (QB/RB/WR/TE/DEF/K), 1-D/SPT, 1-K

It is the sole responsibility of every owner to submit a competitive lineup every week of the GFFL season. Make sure you select a tiebreaker.

4A. Belichec Rule: If you have a player who is doubtful on Sunday/Monday Night, you can designate a player in their absence if they do not play.

1. For example: Manning is doubtful and I want to play him. I am subbing Trent Edwards to play for Manning if he does not play. If Manning plays at all, Manning is my selection for the week.

2. Belichec rule can not be abused. This is ideal for: I am going to the gym, or I am going to church, and I will designate 1 guy in advance due to lack of updates.

3. This website should give you enough information since 100's of newssources are fed into the updating system.

4. Post Belichec sub on Message board or via email. Phone calls are tough guys. The beauty of the message board, is that it is time stamped. Same thing with an email. Unless I am home, Phone calls are

tough to deal with and I do not recommend them.

 

[Philo]

If a commish won't do that for you, what is the commish for? Just plugging in the settings on the website and picking a draft day before the season starts?

 

[theplayer11]

basically, people want an easy "out" if they don't watch it closely..sorry, that's part of the game.

 

[theplayer11]

I can't imagine the d-bag of a commish that wouldn't do this for an owner if he was politely emailed about it a day or two before. Doesn't even require the commish to do it on gameday if he emails the opponent beforehand to let him know, he can do it retroactively. I really can't imagine the d-bag of an opponent that wouldn't allow it, either."Dear commish, I'm going to be unable to get to the website on game day due to family reasons. Right now, I've got Adrian Peterson in my lineup with Gerhart on the bench, but if Peterson is ruled inactive for the game before kickoff, I won't be able to switch the two. If Peterson is officially inactive, can you plug in Gerhart for me? Thanks."Commish then sends to the opponent: "FYI, if Peterson is officially inactive tomorrow night, your opponent will be playing Gerhart in his place. Neither him nor me will be online between the release of the inactives list and kickoff, though, due to family commitments. So it won't be updated on the website, but, that's what'll be going on, so if you're rooting along at home, don't start celebrating once the inactives list comes out."Anyone really going to be the guy that says "#### NO! If he can't be online between 6 and 7 PM, he loses!!!!"? Where's the sportsmanship in that?

you are asking a lot from a commish. What if everyone wanted the commish to sub in guys for those that are inactive. It's not the commish's job to watch every team..it's the owners'. As commish, I have no problem switching a guy if an owner calls me before the game and I'm there to receive the call.

 

[Topes]

I can't imagine the d-bag of a commish that wouldn't do this for an owner if he was politely emailed about it a day or two before. Doesn't even require the commish to do it on gameday if he emails the opponent beforehand to let him know, he can do it retroactively. I really can't imagine the d-bag of an opponent that wouldn't allow it, either.

"Dear commish, I'm going to be unable to get to the website on game day due to family reasons. Right now, I've got Adrian Peterson in my lineup with Gerhart on the bench, but if Peterson is ruled inactive for the game before kickoff, I won't be able to switch the two. If Peterson is officially inactive, can you plug in Gerhart for me? Thanks."

Commish then sends to the opponent: "FYI, if Peterson is officially inactive tomorrow night, your opponent will be playing Gerhart in his place. Neither him nor me will be online between the release of the inactives list and kickoff, though, due to family commitments. So it won't be updated on the website, but, that's what'll be going on, so if you're rooting along at home, don't start celebrating once the inactives list comes out."

Anyone really going to be the guy that says "#### NO! If he can't be online between 6 and 7 PM, he loses!!!!"? Where's the sportsmanship in that?

This scenario doesn't exactly match the scenario outlined in the OP. In the scenario you describe, the subbed player plays in the same time slot as the OUT player. In many cases, an owner might want to name a player in an eralier time slot as a sub. Unless a league has a specific rule to allow this, a polite email to the commish asking that a 1:00 player be subbed for a 4:00 scratch ought to met with a polite "#### NO!".

 

[fsufan]

If a commish won't do that for you, what is the commish for? Just plugging in the settings on the website and picking a draft day before the season starts?

yes

this sounds like a big headache for a commissioner

 

[fsufan]

basically, people want an easy "out" if they don't watch it closely..sorry, that's part of the game.

:( like someone said above, they want best ball. FF players that want this should just play in FBG's subscriber contest. a rule like this only benefits the owner that do not follow it closely

 

[fantasyplayer]

basically, people want an easy "out" if they don't watch it closely..sorry, that's part of the game.

like someone said above, they want best ball. FF players that want this should just play in FBG's subscriber contest. a rule like this only benefits the owner that do not follow it closely

No. A rule like this benefits owners who aren't able to follow it closely from 12:30 to 12:55 on Sunday afternoons.

 

[Death Bytes]

basically, people want an easy "out" if they don't watch it closely..sorry, that's part of the game.

like someone said above, they want best ball. FF players that want this should just play in FBG's subscriber contest. a rule like this only benefits the owner that do not follow it closely

It is pretty much "best ball". It's a different Fantasy Football game.Having to decide on Thursday afternoon if your backup playing on Thursday night is a better bet for you than your star who is GTD for his Monday night game is the Classic Fantasy Football game. If you don't like the classic game, then play the easier Fantasy Football games. And watch out for cat poop in the sandbox.

 

[fsufan]

basically, people want an easy "out" if they don't watch it closely..sorry, that's part of the game.

like someone said above, they want best ball. FF players that want this should just play in FBG's subscriber contest. a rule like this only benefits the owner that do not follow it closely

No. A rule like this benefits owners who aren't able to follow it closely from 12:30 to 12:55 on Sunday afternoons.

maybe big boy fantasy football is not for you. the kiddy game is down the street

 

[duaneok66]

basically, people want an easy "out" if they don't watch it closely..sorry, that's part of the game.

like someone said above, they want best ball. FF players that want this should just play in FBG's subscriber contest. a rule like this only benefits the owner that do not follow it closely

No. A rule like this benefits owners who aren't able to follow it closely from 12:30 to 12:55 on Sunday afternoons.

valid point - however, for me it's still part of the game. I know a lot of people are probably at church sometimes during that timeframe, and that may hurt - but I am betting that most have trustworthyfriends that can step in and do a last minute sub if necessary. I have been stuck like that several times, and I made a calculated decision between starting a questionable/doubtful starter over a lesser player guaranteed to put up some points. For me it just adds to the challenge . . .

 

[anakin]

Speaking as a commish of two leagues and co-commish of another who was in 13 leagues in 2010, this is a lot lot to put on a commish. If mfl figures out a way to impletement it, fantastic then do it. Commishes hear a lot of complaining and whinning from owners. I do not feel that I can go out to an actual football game at times because I have to babysit teams that call at the last minute.

 

[Road Dogg]

We do it

everyone submits a depth chart, if their starter is not in for any plays the sub steps in

everyone loves it

 

[Philo]

If a commish won't do that for you, what is the commish for? Just plugging in the settings on the website and picking a draft day before the season starts?

yes

this sounds like a big headache for a commissioner

If all the guy does is done by draft day, not much need for a "commissioner" in the league at all. Just set up the site and forget about it. What else does the guy do all year?

 

[Sam Quentin]

C'mon guys, it takes tremendous skill and football expertise to sit in front of your computer and sub a guy out when John Clayton tell you to.

 

[fsufan]

Speaking as a commish of two leagues and co-commish of another who was in 13 leagues in 2010, this is a lot lot to put on a commish. If mfl figures out a way to impletement it, fantastic then do it. Commishes hear a lot of complaining and whinning from owners. I do not feel that I can go out to an actual football game at times because I have to babysit teams that call at the last minute.

I have been running leagues for 13 years. no way I would want this headache

 

[-fish-]

This is a great rule for leagues made up of 6 year old girls. My daughter would love it.

 

[fsufan]

If a commish won't do that for you, what is the commish for? Just plugging in the settings on the website and picking a draft day before the season starts?

yes

this sounds like a big headache for a commissioner

If all the guy does is done by draft day, not much need for a "commissioner" in the league at all. Just set up the site and forget about it. What else does the guy do all year?

I can tell you never been a commissioner.

collect league fees

pay out winnings

find replacement owners- I run 3 dynasty leagues

make decisions when problems come up

put up with headache owners

set draft

set playoffs

I run 3 dynasty leagues and started them all from scratch. more to it than you think. not a hard job but a thankless one

 

[Ned]

basically, people want an easy "out" if they don't watch it closely..sorry, that's part of the game.

like someone said above, they want best ball. FF players that want this should just play in FBG's subscriber contest. a rule like this only benefits the owner that do not follow it closely

No. A rule like this benefits owners who aren't able to follow it closely from 12:30 to 12:55 on Sunday afternoons.

maybe big boy fantasy football is not for you. the kiddy game is down the street

C'mon guys, it takes tremendous skill and football expertise to sit in front of your computer and sub a guy out when John Clayton tell you to.

 

[fantasyplayer]

basically, people want an easy "out" if they don't watch it closely..sorry, that's part of the game.

like someone said above, they want best ball. FF players that want this should just play in FBG's subscriber contest. a rule like this only benefits the owner that do not follow it closely

No. A rule like this benefits owners who aren't able to follow it closely from 12:30 to 12:55 on Sunday afternoons.

maybe big boy fantasy football is not for you. the kiddy game is down the street

I love this schtick! For some of us this is just a hobby and not an attempt to rekindle the competive fires of middle/high school football from back in the glory days.And I take the hobby pretty seriously and want to play in competitive leagues with other skilled/competent owners. But it doesn't take any skill to be available during the critical minutes prior to the early game kickoffs. If there were an easy, somewhat automated way to implement something like this, I'd be all for it. In the long run, it would reward the better, more skilled owners and not just the guys that don't have other commitments at 12:45 on Sundays.

 

[AB in DC]

This would basically be applied retroactively by me (the commissioner) after the active/inactive decision is made. That means even if your GTD was playing at 4pm and your replacement was playing at 1pm, you could still list the 1pm player as your replacement so long as you list him prior to the start time of his game. From there, if the 4pm player is ruled inactive, I would put the 1pm player into that team's lineup even if he has already played.

This would be a terrible idea if it extended to Thursday/Saturday/Monday games.Suppose someone names a "replacement" who plays in a Thursday night game, and blows up for 150 yards and three TDs. What's to stop the owner from declaring the "starter" to be some scrub who happens to be questionable, just so he can get the points from this "replacement" into his starting lineup? Most of us allow lineup changes until kickoff time, so the owner never needs to risk having this scrub officially starting -- if it turns out that the scrub is active for the game, he can just swap in his regular starter before gametime.Pretty soon everyone with a player on Thursday night will officially "start" some Sunday questionable and declare the TNF guy as a "replacement". If the TNF guy doesn't have a good game, or if the questionable guys actually plays, they can just put in their regular starting lineup later. But if everything works out, they can maneuver their Thursday points into the lineup even if he would never have been a starter normally.

 

[gianmarco]

This would basically be applied retroactively by me (the commissioner) after the active/inactive decision is made. That means even if your GTD was playing at 4pm and your replacement was playing at 1pm, you could still list the 1pm player as your replacement so long as you list him prior to the start time of his game. From there, if the 4pm player is ruled inactive, I would put the 1pm player into that team's lineup even if he has already played.

This would be a terrible idea if it extended to Thursday/Saturday/Monday games.Suppose someone names a "replacement" who plays in a Thursday night game, and blows up for 150 yards and three TDs. What's to stop the owner from declaring the "starter" to be some scrub who happens to be questionable, just so he can get the points from this "replacement" into his starting lineup? Most of us allow lineup changes until kickoff time, so the owner never needs to risk having this scrub officially starting -- if it turns out that the scrub is active for the game, he can just swap in his regular starter before gametime.Pretty soon everyone with a player on Thursday night will officially "start" some Sunday questionable and declare the TNF guy as a "replacement". If the TNF guy doesn't have a good game, or if the questionable guys actually plays, they can just put in their regular starting lineup later. But if everything works out, they can maneuver their Thursday points into the lineup even if he would never have been a starter normally.

Your reading comprehension is lacking. I suggest you reread the first post.

 

[AB in DC]

This would basically be applied retroactively by me (the commissioner) after the active/inactive decision is made. That means even if your GTD was playing at 4pm and your replacement was playing at 1pm, you could still list the 1pm player as your replacement so long as you list him prior to the start time of his game. From there, if the 4pm player is ruled inactive, I would put the 1pm player into that team's lineup even if he has already played.

This would be a terrible idea if it extended to Thursday/Saturday/Monday games.Suppose someone names a "replacement" who plays in a Thursday night game, and blows up for 150 yards and three TDs. What's to stop the owner from declaring the "starter" to be some scrub who happens to be questionable, just so he can get the points from this "replacement" into his starting lineup? Most of us allow lineup changes until kickoff time, so the owner never needs to risk having this scrub officially starting -- if it turns out that the scrub is active for the game, he can just swap in his regular starter before gametime.Pretty soon everyone with a player on Thursday night will officially "start" some Sunday questionable and declare the TNF guy as a "replacement". If the TNF guy doesn't have a good game, or if the questionable guys actually plays, they can just put in their regular starting lineup later. But if everything works out, they can maneuver their Thursday points into the lineup even if he would never have been a starter normally.

Your reading comprehension is lacking. I suggest you reread the first post.

I suggest you re-read mine. Or be a little more specific.

 

[DropKick]

Am I the only one who thinks this is weak? I say make a decision and take your chances. People are complaining that the NFL is becoming dummied down. Isn't this dummying down fantasy football?

No, not really. You still set your line-up and make decisions. It just saves you from situations that you have no control over and lack complete knowledge. I prefer this to taking a "zero" which, to be be honest, takes much of the fun away from the game. And, as the OP stated, many people can't sit glued to their TVs every week-end.To the OP, I would expand your definition to anyone who does not play. This would include players who are probable and even those who miss games for personal reasons or are hurt in pregame. The NFL lists players who do not play.

 

[DropKick]

This would basically be applied retroactively by me (the commissioner) after the active/inactive decision is made. That means even if your GTD was playing at 4pm and your replacement was playing at 1pm, you could still list the 1pm player as your replacement so long as you list him prior to the start time of his game. From there, if the 4pm player is ruled inactive, I would put the 1pm player into that team's lineup even if he has already played.

This would be a terrible idea if it extended to Thursday/Saturday/Monday games.Suppose someone names a "replacement" who plays in a Thursday night game, and blows up for 150 yards and three TDs. What's to stop the owner from declaring the "starter" to be some scrub who happens to be questionable, just so he can get the points from this "replacement" into his starting lineup? Most of us allow lineup changes until kickoff time, so the owner never needs to risk having this scrub officially starting -- if it turns out that the scrub is active for the game, he can just swap in his regular starter before gametime.Pretty soon everyone with a player on Thursday night will officially "start" some Sunday questionable and declare the TNF guy as a "replacement". If the TNF guy doesn't have a good game, or if the questionable guys actually plays, they can just put in their regular starting lineup later. But if everything works out, they can maneuver their Thursday points into the lineup even if he would never have been a starter normally.

We've had a similar rule for 15 years. Never had such a problem. I guess that is one of the reasons the league has a commissioner.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Am I the only one who thinks this is weak? I say make a decision and take your chances. People are complaining that the NFL is becoming dummied dummed dumbed down. Isn't this dummying down fantasy football?

Fixed. Ironic, though...No, it's not weak. It's a great idea. The point of FF is to compile a team of good stat producing players. I am always gone from 11am-12:30pm (Central time) on Sundays. So I miss kickoff and the beginning of the first games. If I could put in conditional players, that would be great.

I don't know about you, but I hate a cheap win. I really do. If you are fine winning simply because your opponent can't dedicate as much time to the hobby as you, then you are probably the only one patting yourself on the back.

Now it's really fixed for added irony.I do agree with you, though. This hurts fans who actually go to games but can't access the website from their mobile device. I mean, it does seem weird that they'd be punished for supporting a real team. A contingency player shows you did understand the risk and you've thought about how you want to handle it. It's what you would do if you were at home by the computer. It doesn't really change the game to me.