rockaction
Footballguy
I’m also not offended if you abort the mission a little ways in. I hate compulsory listening and don’t want to force that on you. Peace.
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Consensus Top 350 Albums of All-Time: 1. The Dark Side of the Moon – Pink Floyd (200 Viewers)
- Thread starter Dr. Octopus
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Don Quixote
Footballguy
They are so good. @landrys hat did Luna for the most recent MAD artist round — that was some good stuff too. I haven’t listened to as much Dean Wareham post-Galaxie 500 as I should.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
All results are final.
Mt. Man
Footballguy
Below are the albums I ranked that didn't make the Top 350.
Some of these were mentioned by Doc Octopus, but largely I didn't talk about them, so I figure inclusion is fair.
14. Holy Diver - Dio
27. Candlebox - Candlebox
33. Tribute - Ozzy Osbourne
39. Louder than Love - Soundgarden
42. Get Your Wings - Aerosmith
43. Pretenders - Pretenders
49. Dream Evil - Dio
51. Couldn't Stand the Weather - Stevie Ray Vaughn
54. Duke - Genesis
57. 'Live' Bullet - Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band
58. Love it to Death - Alice Cooper
61. Fashion Nugget - Cake
62. Eliminator - ZZ Top
63. Infinity - Journey
67. Wolfmother - Wolfmother
68. Temple of the Dog - Temple of the Dog
69. Recovering the Satellites - Counting Crows
The Dio shouldn't be a surprise to M-AD veterans, nor Candlebox's debut. "Tribute" here is the 1987 live album highlighting Randy Rhoads. It has most of "Blizzard of Ozz", so I plausibly could've joined that group, but didn't. I get it if "Louder than Love" isn't in the Top 3 Soundgarden albums you think of, but it just has too many memories for me NOT to include. We had no Aerosmith, Seger or Cooper on the top 350, but then again, they were also on the back half of my list. Similarly, I can't be stunned about the last 6 not making it, though I thought Temple of the Dog might get some (more) love.
Some of these were mentioned by Doc Octopus, but largely I didn't talk about them, so I figure inclusion is fair.
14. Holy Diver - Dio
27. Candlebox - Candlebox
33. Tribute - Ozzy Osbourne
39. Louder than Love - Soundgarden
42. Get Your Wings - Aerosmith
43. Pretenders - Pretenders
49. Dream Evil - Dio
51. Couldn't Stand the Weather - Stevie Ray Vaughn
54. Duke - Genesis
57. 'Live' Bullet - Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band
58. Love it to Death - Alice Cooper
61. Fashion Nugget - Cake
62. Eliminator - ZZ Top
63. Infinity - Journey
67. Wolfmother - Wolfmother
68. Temple of the Dog - Temple of the Dog
69. Recovering the Satellites - Counting Crows
The Dio shouldn't be a surprise to M-AD veterans, nor Candlebox's debut. "Tribute" here is the 1987 live album highlighting Randy Rhoads. It has most of "Blizzard of Ozz", so I plausibly could've joined that group, but didn't. I get it if "Louder than Love" isn't in the Top 3 Soundgarden albums you think of, but it just has too many memories for me NOT to include. We had no Aerosmith, Seger or Cooper on the top 350, but then again, they were also on the back half of my list. Similarly, I can't be stunned about the last 6 not making it, though I thought Temple of the Dog might get some (more) love.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
Here is my full list
Throwing Copper Live
Morning View Incubus
Break the Cycle Staind
Audioslave Audioslave
Nevermind Nirvana
We are not Alone Breaking Benjamin
Slippery When Wet Bon Jovi
Toxicity System of a Down
Fear of the Dark Iron Maiden
Christmas Eve and Other Stories Trans-Siberian Orchestra
Sixteen Stone Bush
Hybrid Theory Linkin Park
The Black Album Metalica
Godsmack Godsmack
Tragic Kingdom No Doubt
Jagged Little Pill Alanis Morissette
Life Dope
The Greyest of Blue Skies Finger Eleven
Come Clean Puddle of Mudd
The Marshall Mathers LP Eminem
Thriller Michael Jackson
Follow the Leader Korn
I'm tempted to get in on the album exchange but I'm already behind and don't want to commit to more stuffs
I was hoping that someone might listen to that TSO album but no one cared.
Kinda surprised that no one listed Bush. I also assume that Finger Eleven is largely unknown.
Throwing Copper Live
Morning View Incubus
Break the Cycle Staind
Audioslave Audioslave
Nevermind Nirvana
We are not Alone Breaking Benjamin
Slippery When Wet Bon Jovi
Toxicity System of a Down
Fear of the Dark Iron Maiden
Christmas Eve and Other Stories Trans-Siberian Orchestra
Sixteen Stone Bush
Hybrid Theory Linkin Park
The Black Album Metalica
Godsmack Godsmack
Tragic Kingdom No Doubt
Jagged Little Pill Alanis Morissette
Life Dope
The Greyest of Blue Skies Finger Eleven
Come Clean Puddle of Mudd
The Marshall Mathers LP Eminem
Thriller Michael Jackson
Follow the Leader Korn
I'm tempted to get in on the album exchange but I'm already behind and don't want to commit to more stuffs
I was hoping that someone might listen to that TSO album but no one cared.
Kinda surprised that no one listed Bush. I also assume that Finger Eleven is largely unknown.
rockaction
Footballguy
MAC_32 probably just hearted you.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
at least someone hearts me
rockaction
Footballguy
I pulled a Spinal Tap and turned it up to eleven for hip-hop. I totally bricked on Clipse's Lord Willin' and maybe Jay-Z's Black Album or 4:44 or The Blueprint, but I just don't listen to him as much as I used to and the act gets a bit old. Lupe Fiasco is another miss or belongs in the top 100.
19 - College Dropout - Kanye West
23 - Skelethon - Aesop Rock
24 - Cancer 4 Cure - El-P
27 - Paul's Boutique - Beastie Boys
28 - Aethiopes - billy woods
35 - Run The Jewels II - Run The Jewels
37 - The Carnival - Wyclef Jean
44 - Phrenology - The Roots
45 - Fishscale - Ghostface Killah
51 - Quality - Talib Kweli
55 - Summertime '06 - Vince Staples
70-100
Black on Both Sides - Mos Def
Food and Liquor - Lupe Fiasco
Lord Willin' - Clipse
Daytona - Pusha T
King - T.I.
Uptown Saturday Night - Camp Lo
Manger on McNichols - Boldy James
The Grey Album - Danger Mouse, Jay-Z, and The Beatles
Punk and proto-punk and disco/dance-punk albums that missed the mark (and the Yeah Yeah Yeahs are punk-adjacent and Mogwai self-identifies, so I don't begrudge it):
69 - Echoes - The Rapture
66 - Destroy-Oh-Boy!! - New Bomb Turks
61 - Is Survived By . . . - Touché Amoré
53 - Plastic Surgery Disasters - Dead Kennedys
40 - Franz Ferdinand - Franz Ferdinand
30 - Rocket To Russia - The Ramones
26 - Young, Loud, and Snotty - Dead Boys
22 - Show Your Bones - Yeah Yeah Yeahs
20 - Mogwai - Mr. Beast
16 - Damned Damned Damned - The Damned
12 - Fun House - The Stooges
11 - Eat To The Beat - Blondie
9 - New York Dolls - New York Dolls
70-100
And Out Come The Wolves . . . - Rancid
Get Action! - Teengenerate
Punk In Drublic - NOFX
Coral Fang - The Distillers
The Argument - Fugazi
Singles Going Steady - Buzzcocks
Post-Nothing - Japandroids
eta* Any edits after The Grey Album and Post-Nothing are bullcrap so I don't keep doing it (aside from editing out those that made it into the countdown!).
eta2* Forgot to thank kupcho1 for all his effort that went into helping Doc out. Thanks, kupcho1. Your template was huge in bringing all this together, apparently. That is much appreciated.
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Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
They're the Velveeta of grunge. I expected to see them on Lambskin's list.
The Dreaded Marco
Footballguy
Thanks much to @Dr. Octopus and @kupcho1 for all their work in this thread. Great job and a lot of fun......
Here's the rest of my list that didn't make the cut:
Strange Times - The Chameleons
Neon Golden - The Notwist
The Meadowlands - The Wrens
Ocean Rain - Echo & the Bunnymen
Sound of Silver - LCD Soundsystem
Loveless - My Bloody Valentine
Girls Can Tell - Spoon
Purple Mountains - Purple Mountains
Keep It Like A Secret - Built to Spill
Slanted & Enchanted - Pavement
Teens of Denial - Car Seat Headrest
American Water - Silver Jews
Nilsson Schmilsson - Harry Nilsson
Closer - Joy Division
Alligator - The National
The Life Pursuit - Belle & Sebastian
The Head on the Door - The Cure
Summerteeth - Wilco
Kaputt - Destroyer
Spiderland - Slint
Blacklisted - Neko Case
Either/Or - Elliot Smith
Modern Vampires of the City - Vampire Weekend
You Forgot It In People - Broken Social Scene
Bee Thousand - Guided By Voices
McLusky Do Dallas - McLusky
Introduction, Presence - Nation of Language
Document - R.E.M.
Here's the rest of my list that didn't make the cut:
Strange Times - The Chameleons
Neon Golden - The Notwist
The Meadowlands - The Wrens
Ocean Rain - Echo & the Bunnymen
Sound of Silver - LCD Soundsystem
Loveless - My Bloody Valentine
Girls Can Tell - Spoon
Purple Mountains - Purple Mountains
Keep It Like A Secret - Built to Spill
Slanted & Enchanted - Pavement
Teens of Denial - Car Seat Headrest
American Water - Silver Jews
Nilsson Schmilsson - Harry Nilsson
Closer - Joy Division
Alligator - The National
The Life Pursuit - Belle & Sebastian
The Head on the Door - The Cure
Summerteeth - Wilco
Kaputt - Destroyer
Spiderland - Slint
Blacklisted - Neko Case
Either/Or - Elliot Smith
Modern Vampires of the City - Vampire Weekend
You Forgot It In People - Broken Social Scene
Bee Thousand - Guided By Voices
McLusky Do Dallas - McLusky
Introduction, Presence - Nation of Language
Document - R.E.M.
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rockaction
Footballguy
Four randos from the albums I listed above. Two from the top two punk albums and two from the bottom three of the rap category, which should be, in the words of Mav and Goose when civvy Charlie Blackwood asks—inverted. You really could flip the order of the albums I ranked and I'd be happy with it. It's probably more accurate, actually.
A little almost girl group nod with this one
Jet boy's fly you know jet boy's gone/jet boy stole my baby/ridin' around New York City so high/like he was my baby . . .
Forget Kendrick's overt rebellion, this was the sneakiest "forget that and forget you" album of the decade. Vince doesn’t flinch. This video became even more popular when a middle-class woman was completely appalled by it in a reaction video that went totally viral.
Vince Staples's reply: "She's right."
Reaction video here. I’m not doing this to laugh at her. She is right.
youtu.be
Actually, the story got crazier. This was apparently wildly viral and she was attacked as being out of touch and condescending and racist by nearly every would-be hipster rag. Staples stuck up for her, backed off that a bit due to pressure, but ultimately said this in an NPR interview, which is ballsy, crazy, and very on point and truthful. This is fascinating to me. In our rush to understand and coddle, we are supporting a perpetual disastrous cycle of poverty and intimate violence. He says:
“What made a lot of people turn their heads is that you were very kind about it. You defended her, you said that people should--
She was right.
Really? What was she right about?
I don't really care what's on the radio because the radio's kind of secondary to how we consume music in today's day and age. But what she said, "this is what our children are being exposed to"? She's right. That's what the song is about: what our children are being exposed to.
My question is, why can we listen to that and pass it off like it's not a problem? When you see a film and you see a murder scene or a rape scene or something that's displaying an element of trauma, we don't look at it and go, "This movie's f****** great, I'm having a great time, are you?" We feel for that. Know what I'm saying? But it doesn't necessarily happen in that sense when we're speaking about music. So I didn't make that song for it to make people happy. So I don't have a problem with what she said. You got a reaction — isn't that the point, essentially?“
A more fictional narrative and a masterclass in Captain Insano storytelling narrative set to beats. Better than any mafioso movie, even those cool ones from the seventies.
One last one. If you like Run The Jewels you probably know Despot. This is him guesting on my #28 with billy woods. I know the odds of the click are small, but this one is excellent. It's got a bit of a reggae beat running through the background until it drops out a bit. Despot is in fine form here.
A little almost girl group nod with this one
Jet boy's fly you know jet boy's gone/jet boy stole my baby/ridin' around New York City so high/like he was my baby . . .
Forget Kendrick's overt rebellion, this was the sneakiest "forget that and forget you" album of the decade. Vince doesn’t flinch. This video became even more popular when a middle-class woman was completely appalled by it in a reaction video that went totally viral.
Vince Staples's reply: "She's right."
Reaction video here. I’m not doing this to laugh at her. She is right.
Norf norf rant
Christian mother has hilarious meltdown on YouTube while reading Hip-Hop Lyrics
youtu.be
Actually, the story got crazier. This was apparently wildly viral and she was attacked as being out of touch and condescending and racist by nearly every would-be hipster rag. Staples stuck up for her, backed off that a bit due to pressure, but ultimately said this in an NPR interview, which is ballsy, crazy, and very on point and truthful. This is fascinating to me. In our rush to understand and coddle, we are supporting a perpetual disastrous cycle of poverty and intimate violence. He says:
“What made a lot of people turn their heads is that you were very kind about it. You defended her, you said that people should--
She was right.
Really? What was she right about?
I don't really care what's on the radio because the radio's kind of secondary to how we consume music in today's day and age. But what she said, "this is what our children are being exposed to"? She's right. That's what the song is about: what our children are being exposed to.
My question is, why can we listen to that and pass it off like it's not a problem? When you see a film and you see a murder scene or a rape scene or something that's displaying an element of trauma, we don't look at it and go, "This movie's f****** great, I'm having a great time, are you?" We feel for that. Know what I'm saying? But it doesn't necessarily happen in that sense when we're speaking about music. So I didn't make that song for it to make people happy. So I don't have a problem with what she said. You got a reaction — isn't that the point, essentially?“
A more fictional narrative and a masterclass in Captain Insano storytelling narrative set to beats. Better than any mafioso movie, even those cool ones from the seventies.
One last one. If you like Run The Jewels you probably know Despot. This is him guesting on my #28 with billy woods. I know the odds of the click are small, but this one is excellent. It's got a bit of a reggae beat running through the background until it drops out a bit. Despot is in fine form here.
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rockaction
Footballguy
I was sure you picked this. In the PM conversation I was in, I said, "I was sure Marco would pick . . . "
We couldn't get it over the finish line. I had it at #21 for 50 points.
the moops
Footballguy
if I had made a list, most of these probably would have made it. Good stuff
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
They're the Velveeta of grunge. I expected to see them on Lambskin's list.
and it was 6x platnuim
Sixteen Stone - Wikipedia
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
They had zero respect from pretty much everyone I interacted with or read.They're the Velveeta of grunge. I expected to see them on Lambskin's list.and it was 6x platnuim
Sixteen Stone - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
I found them to be ... ok. Not deserving of vitriol, but not deserving of great praise either.
rockaction
Footballguy
They had zero respect from pretty much everyone I interacted with or read.They're the Velveeta of grunge. I expected to see them on Lambskin's list.and it was 6x platnuim
Sixteen Stone - Wikipedia
I found them to be ... ok. Not deserving of vitriol, but not deserving of great praise either.
I remember one of our fraternity brothers particularly liked "Glycerine" or one of the slower tracks ("Comedown"?). Bush was treated as sort of just there by the press. Not hated like Everclear, but never loved. I think that they were more popular than acclaimed. I thought they were better than the press said but was never into them, really. They were perfectly fine for that era. I don't think Rossdale's looks and status as a foreigner helped. His marriage to Gwen Stefani took them away from the prying eyes of the indie journals and made them celebs, which might have been the indie journals' problem with both of them the whole time.
I just sort of shrugged. Better to move in the water of Bush/No Doubt than the stuff I saw at ET's (a bar) I went to on Sunday night, which had earnest girls in bikinis (outside and unpaid) dancing to something about dropping or shaking that *** and slapping their own asses as they rode an imaginary pole to the ground. I think "Spiderwebs" was a little more conducive to societal glue than what I saw. A young, slightly pudgy Latino wearing a (no ********) sombrero-looking thing, popped out of his van (the parties were not together but somewhat distantly adjacent in the parking lot):
"Hey man, you looking for something?"
"Uh . . . "
"I got my plug on call."
"Oh, I only have twenty."
"Oh, cool. Well, take care!"
I had stopped to check out the scene because I heard it across the way at the gas station. There were new fences all over the place, and they were graffiti-laden. This is way, way out of place in the town I live in, but it is getting bigger, and the corporations have purchased a lot of the houses on the market and now rent them instead of selling them. So we got graffiti and that scene, which is begging for some negative attention. I dunno. I don't see that lasting entirely too long unless the owners have an in somewhere. I doubt that.
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
From what I see, it got middling reviews. I see a 4 1/2 star on allmusic, but also a lot of B- and 2 or 3 star reviews, and the Brits seemed to hate it.They had zero respect from pretty much everyone I interacted with or read.They're the Velveeta of grunge. I expected to see them on Lambskin's list.and it was 6x platnuim
Sixteen Stone - Wikipedia
I found them to be ... ok. Not deserving of vitriol, but not deserving of great praise either.
Album sales never mean much. People like me bought it because I bought nearly everything, but it had a few good songs and sat in my pile. Others I new bought it because Gavin was dreamy and it had a few good songs, but mostly sat in their pile. My reaction is like yours - it's not terrible, it just wasn't a great album IMO and I didn't know many people who held it in high praise or listened to it a lot.
Lord Lucan
Footballguy
Yeah that's similar to me (and I'm a Brit) - I think the concensus amongst people that I discussed them with was that they just weren't authentic or original, and we didn't see why you'd listen to them over Nirvana or the Pixies, say, both of whom clearly had an influence on Bush. I think perceived "authenticity" might be a slightly bigger thing over here than in the US, some other British artists/bands who were more successful in the States were Billy Idol, The Fixx and A Flock Of Seagulls for whom I think similar comments might apply from a British point of view.From what I see, it got middling reviews. I see a 4 1/2 star on allmusic, but also a lot of B- and 2 or 3 star reviews, and the Brits seemed to hate it.They had zero respect from pretty much everyone I interacted with or read.They're the Velveeta of grunge. I expected to see them on Lambskin's list.and it was 6x platnuim
Sixteen Stone - Wikipedia
I found them to be ... ok. Not deserving of vitriol, but not deserving of great praise either.
Album sales never mean much. People like me bought it because I bought nearly everything, but it had a few good songs and sat in my pile. Others I new bought it because Gavin was dreamy and it had a few good songs, but mostly sat in their pile. My reaction is like yours - it's not terrible, it just wasn't a great album IMO and I didn't know many people who held it in high praise or listened to it a lot.
landrys hat
Footballguy
Lost Souls was #220!
I am surprised Nilsson Schmilsson didn't make it though.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
I guess we'll check it out. Thanks.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
I'm 65. Unless he's older, he can just grit his teeth and sign on. (Pretty please. I like his list a fair amount.)
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
I picked Bad Hair Day and Alapalooza.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
I was gonna co-ordinate so I didn't ask someone to listen to something abominable.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
Not necessarily. It's been so long since I listened to some of these as albums, a re-visit might be in order.
Mrs. Rannous
Footballguy
My list (I hope):
| A Kind Of Magic | Queen | 70 |
| Boston | Boston | 69 |
| American Idiot | Green Day | 68 |
| Excitable Boy | Warren Zevon | 67 |
| Innuendo | Queen | 66 |
| Bat Out Of Hell II: Back Into Hell | Meat Loaf | 65 |
| Deamboat Annie | Heart | 64 |
| Keep Your Hands Off My Power Supply | Slade | 63 |
| Be Yourself Tonight | Eurythmics | 62 |
| Point of Know Return | Kansas | 61 |
| Kick | INXS | 60 |
| Songs From The Wood | Jethro Tull | 59 |
| Led Zeppelin IV | Led Zeppelin | 58 |
| Bat Ouf Of Hell | Meat Loaf | 57 |
| The Knife Feels Like Justice | Brian Setzer | 56 |
| Little Queen | Heart | 55 |
| Fire Of Unknown Origin | Blue Oyster Cult | 54 |
| Zoot Suit Riot | Cherry Poppin' Daddies | 53 |
| Parallel Lines | Blondie | 52 |
| You Don't Mess Around With Jim | Jim Croce | 51 |
| The Cars | The Cars | 50 |
| Pump | Aerosmith | 49 |
| A Night At The Opera | Queen | 48 |
| Don't Look Back | Boston | 47 |
| X | INXS | 46 |
| Shake Your Money Maker | The Black Crowes | 45 |
| Charmed Life | Billy Idol | 44 |
| Celtic Hotel | Battlefield Band | 43 |
| Dookie | American Idiot | 42 |
| Moo | The Judy's | 41 |
| Blue Moves | Elton John | 40 |
| Out Of The Blue | Electric Light Orchestra | 39 |
| A Day At The Races | Queen | 38 |
| Rumours | Fleetwood Mac | 37 |
| Conan The Barbarian (soundtrack) | Basil Poledouris | 36 |
| The Works | Queen | 35 |
| Leftoverture | Kansas | 34 |
| Full Moon Fever | Tom Petty | 33 |
| Heartbeat City | The Cars | 32 |
| Live At Carnegie Hall | Renaissance | 31 |
| Willy And The Poor Boys | Creedence Clearwater Revival | 30 |
| Parcel of Rogues | Steeleye Span | 29 |
| Graceland | Paul Simon | 28 |
| Touch | Eurythmics | 27 |
| The Presidents of the United States Of America | The Presidents Of The United States of America | 26 |
| The Dance | Fleetwood Mac | 25 |
| The Famous 1938 Carnegie Hall Jazz Concert | Benny Goodman | 24 |
| Don't Say No | Billy Squier | 23 |
| Alapalooza | "Weird Al" Yankovic | 22 |
| Pieces Of Eight | Styx | 21 |
| Stray Cats | Stray Cats | 20 |
| four | Blues Traveler | 19 |
| Hot August Night | Neil Diamond | 18 |
| Jesus Christ Superstar | various | 17 |
| My Ride's Here | Warren Zevon | 16 |
| Carry The Fire | Delta Rae | 15 |
| Cosmo's Factory | Creedence Clearwater Revival | 14 |
| All Around My Hat | Steeleye Span | 13 |
| Moving Pictures | Rush | 12 |
| The Dirty Boogie | The Brian Setzer Orchestra | 11 |
| An Evening With John Denver | John Denver | 10 |
| Beautiful Noise | Neil Diamond | 9 |
| Eliminator | ZZ Top | 8 |
| Crimes Of Passion | Pat Benatar | 7 |
| Tuff Enuff | The Fabulous Thunderbirds | 6 |
| Bermuda Triangle | Bermuda Triangle | 5 |
| American IV: The Man Comes Around | Johnny Cash | 4 |
| On The Rise | Battlefield Band | 3 |
| Bad Hair Day | "Weird Al" Yankovic | 2 |
| Simple Dreams | Linda Ronstadt | 1 |
rockaction
Footballguy
I think the board was telling me something because it would not post my table list. Kept saying it was too long. Hmmm
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
We were never able to laugh at ourselves. Maybe that's the problem.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
Silver Jews is one that I don’t know that has popped up a few times. Given the rest of your list I guess I should explore.
Juxtatarot
Footballguy
Also love the end of March Into The SeaBy far my favorite. The sukie rag jump breakdown kills me.
The lyrics sum up my 2007 very thoroughly.
Who the hell made you the boss?
This fit like clothes made out of wasps
Aw **** it I guess I lost
Parting of the Sensory
Modest Mouse · We Were Dead Before The Ship Even Sank · Song · 2007open.spotify.com
Well treat me like the sea, oh-so salty and mean, ah ha ha
Oh treat me like the sea, oh-so salty and mean, ah ha ha
Well treat me like the leaves, like the rats and the fleas
Bang your head like a gong 'cuz you call it all wrong
Move your tongue, klank klank, klank klank, klank klank, klank klaaaaank
Cut me down like the trees, like the lumber or weeds
Drag me out of the sea and then teach me to breathe
Give me forced health till I wish death on myself
Give me forced health till I wish death on myself
Ah ha ha! Ah ha! Ah ha! Ah ah! Ahaaah!
Well we all stumbled round tangled up in the cords
From our phones, VCRs and our worldly woes
Ah ha ha, march on, march on, march on, march on
Well, march on!
I wanted to mention that I enjoyed reading through this conversation. As Rock mentions, this album isn't as revered as the early albums by fans. I feel a similar way about it as you guys do.
This was the first album I purchased by Modest Mouse so I was late on them. I first became aware of them from "Float On" (which I loved) but hadn't bought Good News. After this album came out and hearing "Dashboard" and "Missed the Boat" on the radio, I decided to buy the new one.
I distinctly remember listening to the CD for the first time while driving to work. "March Into The Sea" was the first track and it was one of those special times being completely blown away by a song. I keep repeating the song over and over and over and over and almost made it the whole 45 minute-ish drive before trying the second song!
I went backwards through their discography over the next few years and they quickly became one of my all time favorite bands.
Although I think the earlier albums are probably more consistent with great songs, the highs on We Were Dead are as high as anything else they've done. We agree on those songs too... "March Into the Sea", "Parting of the Sensory" (perhaps my all time favorite Modest Mouse song) and "Spitting Venom" being my favorite three.
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Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
I started with Good News because of Float On being in a commercial but fell in love with the album. Then got We Were Dead when it came out. Feel like that one took me a few listens to appreciateAlso love the end of March Into The SeaBy far my favorite. The sukie rag jump breakdown kills me.
The lyrics sum up my 2007 very thoroughly.
Who the hell made you the boss?
This fit like clothes made out of wasps
Aw **** it I guess I lost
Parting of the Sensory
Modest Mouse · We Were Dead Before The Ship Even Sank · Song · 2007
Well treat me like the sea, oh-so salty and mean, ah ha ha
Oh treat me like the sea, oh-so salty and mean, ah ha ha
Well treat me like the leaves, like the rats and the fleas
Bang your head like a gong 'cuz you call it all wrong
Move your tongue, klank klank, klank klank, klank klank, klank klaaaaank
Cut me down like the trees, like the lumber or weeds
Drag me out of the sea and then teach me to breathe
Give me forced health till I wish death on myself
Give me forced health till I wish death on myself
Ah ha ha! Ah ha! Ah ha! Ah ah! Ahaaah!
Well we all stumbled round tangled up in the cords
From our phones, VCRs and our worldly woes
Ah ha ha, march on, march on, march on, march on
Well, march on!
I wanted to mention that I enjoyed reading through this conversation. As Rock mentions, this album isn't as revered as the early albums by fans. I feel a similar way about it as you guys do.
This was the first album I purchased by Modest Mouse so I was late on them. I first became aware of them from "Float On" (which I loved) but hadn't bought Good News. After this album came out and hearing "Dashboard" and "Missed the Boat" on the radio, I decided to buy the new one.
I distinctly remember listening to the CD for the first time while driving to work. "March Into The Sea" was the first track and it was one of those special times being completely blown away by a song. I keep repeating the song over and over and over and over and almost made it the whole 45 minute-ish drive before trying the second song!
I went backwards through their discography over the next few of years and they quickly became one of my all time favorite bands.
Although I think the earlier albums are probably more consistent with great songs, the highs on We Were Dead are as high as anything else they've done. We agree on those songs too... "March Into the Sea", "Parting of the Sensory" (perhaps my all time favorite Modest Mouse song) and "Spitting Venom" being my favorite three.
Then I went out and bought the rest of their discography. I haven’t connected with their older stuff the same way though. Not that I don’t like it but just not the same vibe as those 2 albums (moon and Antarctica is close). Same with anything released after that
I did see them do Cowboy Dan live last year though and that was amazing
I wonder about the British skew here. Certainly it's not uncommon to see rock countdowns lean a bit that way and the major British classic rock groups deserve their accolades. But this seems a bit out of proportion. I'd argue that in both non-rock (Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Stevie Wonder, Johnny Cash, Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters, etc.) and rock (Bob Dylan, The Allman Brothers, The Beach Boys, Chuck Berry, Elvis, The Band) that the U.S. is up there with the major British acts in terms of both quality and importance of the music. Also interesting that the top American acts skew towards grunge and alternative. Nothing against them, but they are clearly overrepresented here. I know this is favorites rather than best and that demographics factor in, but do people really think Nirvana has better albums than Bob Dylan? Really?
To @Dr. Octopus's point at the beginning, I guess part of the fun is seeing something a little different. Just surprised me a little.
I've give both a listen. Never heard of Vince Staples before. I have a co-worker (in the UK) who is always telling me to listen to the Damned, but just never made it there.
I'll give you one album. Same rule, you don't like it - stop. No punishment needed. Check out Jersey's Best Dancers by Lifetime. Chose something that wasn't the typical Epitaph or Fat Wreck band.
rockaction
Footballguy
Have stopped and listened but never sat with it. Looking forward to it. Summertime ‘06 has dead spots that I didn’t really remember. I wasn’t totally sober when it was huge. Big Fish Theory might be better by him, but you can always pull the plug.
The Damned is about the best I can do. It’s still good and I just listened to it. I hope you enjoy it!
rockaction
Footballguy
The Dreaded Marco
Footballguy
I did Silver Jews for the 2nd round of MAD31. Actually, it was their lead singer and songwriter, David Berman, who released one solo album as Purple Mountains, which also made my top 70 for this countdown—so I guess you’d say I’m a fan.
11 of the 31 songs I chose for that MAD list were from these two albums.
MAC_32
Footballguy
I've listened to it before, have a few on our Christmas playlist (love them), but don't need to hear the rest again.I was hoping that someone might listen to that TSO album but no one cared.
I feel similarly about Finger Eleven as I do that TSO album. Seen both live too! I like what I like, but don't need to listen to more. While I loved Bush at the time (hey-yo!) their sound hasn't aged great with me. We created a Lithium playlist and have a handful of their stuff on it, but that's about it. Quick glance at their track listing for Sixteen Stone and the only song I recognize that's not on it and am thinking maybe it should is Bomb.
p.s. I ranked System of a Down, but not Toxicity. I much prefer Mesmerize / Hypnotize to their earlier stuff - I chose the former for this exercise.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I'm sure a lot of people have heard it - especially the big song from it that gets played during Christmas season. It's a fine Christmas album.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Fwiw, the same goes for me with whoever I'm paired with. While I have a type, my list has quite a bit of variety. I'll try to pick sounds my partner are unfamiliar with, but also think they may enjoy. i.e. I probably won't put my 1 pointer The Refused's Shape Of Punk To Come on anyone. Although I appreciate that @Eephus gave it a shot in a prior countdown.
rockaction
Footballguy
Killing me with this infinite 12 track/23 minute runtime. You *******!
Jersey’s Greatest
It's going to repeat before you know it!
Killing me with this infinite 12 track/23 minute runtime. You *******!
Jersey’s Greatest
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
We went and seen TSO live quite a few years ago. None of us really cared for it but man they had some rabid fans there
rockaction
Footballguy
It's going to repeat before you know it!
Killing me with this infinite 12 track/23 minute runtime. You *******!
Jersey’s Greatest
Fantastic. I'm realizing as I listen and look up their dates what a massive influence they had on some bands I loved back then.
This takes me back to 1997. I had had a girlfriend who I had wasted all this punk rock emo energy on for two years and this song is perfect because it happened.
Is it silly to think that this will never happen again?
But of course I'll call you tonight
Did you know you missed my birthday?
The loneliest it gets is when the wind begins to chill
And when I stand at the top of your old street
The church top brings a stillness to me
And I can't think of anything I'd rather do
Than have my heart broken by you? - Young, Loud, and Scotty
Awww . . . poor rock. Okay, new girlfriend and miles of distance and life of a vagabond ('97!)
Could you still walk home with me
I don't want to be wondering
You couldn't keep me here
It's you or two months on the road
Just two months waiting by the phone
She grew wings and I grew wheels
And now the dust covers my heels
You couldn't keep me here . . . - 25 Cent Giraffes
And now I'm the heartbreaker. You suck, rock. Let's write a song about it!
Anyway, this brought me way back. Great listen.
This is a band they certainly influenced. This was "our" song. Okay, it really wasn't until somehow it was. Heh. This whole seven inch was awesome. Perfect timing.
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
I know of and have listend to ever band on your list. I have liked some songs from every one on the list except one. It's very much in the wheelhouse of music that got played a lot when I was in late HS, early college. As for the TSO album, a Christmas album in August is a tough sell. I love Christmas, love the whole holiday season but it's too early even for me.Here is my full list
Throwing Copper Live
Morning View Incubus
Break the Cycle Staind
Audioslave Audioslave
Nevermind Nirvana
We are not Alone Breaking Benjamin
Slippery When Wet Bon Jovi
Toxicity System of a Down
Fear of the Dark Iron Maiden
Christmas Eve and Other Stories Trans-Siberian Orchestra
Sixteen Stone Bush
Hybrid Theory Linkin Park
The Black Album Metalica
Godsmack Godsmack
Tragic Kingdom No Doubt
Jagged Little Pill Alanis Morissette
Life Dope
The Greyest of Blue Skies Finger Eleven
Come Clean Puddle of Mudd
The Marshall Mathers LP Eminem
Thriller Michael Jackson
Follow the Leader Korn
I'm tempted to get in on the album exchange but I'm already behind and don't want to commit to more stuffs
I was hoping that someone might listen to that TSO album but no one cared.
Kinda surprised that no one listed Bush. I also assume that Finger Eleven is largely unknown.
BLOCKED_PUNT
Footballguy
Never to early for christmas
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
August most certainly is - let’s enjoy the present.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
I’ll do Christmas music from Thanksgiving - Christmas
rockaction
Footballguy
Never too early. Especially with these adorable little guys!
The Chipmunk Song (Christmas Don't Be Late) - Remastered 1999
Alvin & The Chipmunks, David Seville · Christmas With The Chipmunks (2010) · Song · 2010
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Awww . . . he wants a hula hoop!
rockaction
Footballguy
It's going to repeat before you know it!
Killing me with this infinite 12 track/23 minute runtime. You *******!
Jersey’s Greatest
Big Fish Theory is definitely the Vince Staples album to check out. It just holds up better. But you have to like electro-rap a bit. I’m torn. It’s got a club feel. If you like grimy go Summertime ‘06. If you like dancin’ dancin’ then it’s Big Fish Theory
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Great advice in general. It's petty but it annoyed me yesterday when I was out shopping and saw all the Oktoberfest beers and Pumpkin Spiced stuff. I know summer is hot and can be draining for people but come on lets leave things in their places.