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Cosell Talks: The Running Back Conundrum (1 Viewer)

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Cosell Talks: The Running Back Conundrum

by Greg Cosell

It has now been accepted as gospel in the new NFL that running back is no longer a position of great value. The argument is usually presented like this: it’s a passing league, driven by quarterback play. You must throw the ball often, and effectively, to win consistently. More often than not, the conversation ends there.

A cursory look at statistics reinforces that notion: more attempts, more completions, and more yards than at any point in NFL history. Why? Here are just a few of the reasons: more passing in high school and college than ever before, more spread formations, bigger and more athletic receivers and tight ends, changes in the rules that encourage and promote passing. A dissertation could be written on the evolution of the passing game in the last decade.

The corollary to this passing explosion has been the de-valuation of the running game, and running backs in particular. That argument takes this form: teams can’t compete for championships with the running game as an offensive foundation. In this era of yards and points, you won’t score enough to win important playoff games against top level quarterbacks and high-powered passing games.

As a conceptual paradigm, this makes sense. I don’t necessarily disagree. It’s why teams often reach for a quarterback in the draft. Yet, I don’t believe it’s so unambiguous. Like all things in football, it’s a function of probability. Nothing is 100%. You can argue that it raises more questions than it answers. What do you do offensively if you do not have one of those quarterbacks? Is there no correlation between a strong rushing attack and an explosive passing game? What impact does throwing the ball 35-40 times a game have on the rest of your team? There’s much to consider, and it’s not as simple as reciting the quarterback-driven league platitude.

This rant resulted from my extensive college film study over the past month preparing for the NFL draft. I believe the best player in this draft class is Alabama RB Trent Richardson, not Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin III. Richardson is the best back to enter the NFL since Adrian Peterson in 2007. I know Richardson won’t be the first pick, and I know an elite quarterback is a far more important component. But as I said, there’s more to it than that.

Let’s transition from the philosophical to the practical, and look at some of the uncertainties I postulated a moment ago. The Cleveland Browns have the fourth pick this year. It appears Colt McCoy will be their quarterback. McCoy has limitations as a passer. He cannot threaten the entire field due to his average arm strength. Is it possible to put him in the shotgun as your foundation, and make first downs and sustain offense with the short quick rhythm pass game? Theoretically, yes. Is McCoy capable of that? Can he consistently execute a one-dimensional pass offense against defenses specifically designed to match up? How many quarterbacks can? Tom Brady, but he’s a Hall of Famer.

Why not draft Richardson, and add a sustaining, explosive run dimension? Think of it this way: You align with run personnel in run formations with an elite runner. The tendency, in normal down and distance situations, will be for the defense to add that eighth player into the box. It’s always a numbers game. More defenders allocated to play the run, fewer in pass coverage. Better matchups in the pass game. Defined reads for the quarterback. You give McCoy a higher percentage chance to be efficient. I remember McCoy’s first start in his NFL career, against the Steelers in 2010. Play action was featured on first down, and it had success, against a very good defense.

Let’s take it a step further. You’re the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with the fifth pick in the draft, and you just signed Vincent Jackson. You have to understand where Jackson came from, and what he is as a receiver. He played for Norv Turner in San Diego. Turner is predominantly a base formation offensive coach. He utilizes “21” personnel (2 backs and 1 tight end) and “12” personnel (1 back and 2 tight ends). He is outstanding manipulating the safety as an add-in run defender. The result was a high percentage of what we call single high safety coverages, which is one safety in the deep middle of the field. Almost always, in that alignment, the corners play off coverage. Rarely do they play aggressive press man-to-man with only one deep safety.

That brings us back to Jackson. He’s a free access vertical receiver, a big long strider at his best when he’s able to release cleanly off the line of scrimmage. You put Richardson in the backfield, and you accomplish a number of things. First, you force the defense to defend the run first. You likely dictate eight in the box and single high safety coverages. Secondly, Jackson’s strengths as a deep receiver are maximized. It helps your passing game.

And this doesn’t even begin to address Richardson’s impact on the Bucs defense, arguably the NFL’s worst over the last half of the 2011 season. He’s a foundation back, a tempo setter for an offense. What that does is shorten the game. The clock moves when you run the ball. The ancillary benefit is your defense is on the field for fewer plays. A back like Richardson therefore not only makes your passing game better, he helps your defense.

For the Browns and the Bucs, and there are a number of other teams in similar situations (the Jets immediately come to mind), the value of a big-time runner cannot be overstated. It does not mean that Richardson is more important than an elite quarterback. But there are not many of those, and never will be. It’s a mistake to blindly accept the notion that running backs have less value in the NFL. Just like quarterbacks, it’s always a function of the player and the team.
 
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Personally doubt that Richardson will be taken early, but it is possible with the new rookie salary structure. Although Reggie Bush was drafted second, he really never delivered on his promise or his resulting contract (26m guaranteed for a non feature back and pocketed north of 40 if not 50 from the Saints). Adrian Peterson by comparison got 17m guaranteed for being drafted seventh (and has gotten south of 35m in total for his efforts up to his second contract).

Last years rookie contracts means that although a far larger share is guaranteed, the total is also greatly diminished. the top rb last year got 7.4m, of which less that 4 was guaranteed. to get an Adrian Peterson rookie guaranteed money, last year you'd have to be picked 6th - but with nothing not guaranteed on top.

So if you think Trent Richardson is worth 21-22m guaranteed (and in total, allowing for a bit of an increase over last year), then the Browns could definitely take him 4th. As I said, I doubt that. Look at the contracts top offensive/Defensive linemen have been getting:

2010

1.02 Ndamukong Suh, 40m guaranteed of up to 68m total

1.03 Gerald McCoy, 35m guaranteed of up to 63m

1.04 Trent Williams, 36m guaranteed of 60m

1.06 Russell Okung, 30m guaranteed of 58m guaranteed of 28m

1.10 Tuson Alualu, 17.5m

2011

1.03 Marcell Daraeus, 20.4m

1.07 Aldon Smith, 14.4m

1.09 Tyron SMith, 12.5m

1.11 J.J. Watt, 11.2m

So if you are in the top 8-10 range your best bang for the buck is to get a lineman or a quarterback or maybe a top corner/safety - or these days a WR

With Luck and RGIII going in the first two spots there are still Kalil, Reiff, Blackmon, Claiborne, Coples, Cox, Poe, Tannehill in case someone is in love with him playing at positions where the rookie salary structure offers significantly larger savings in real dollars than RB. GMs look at the bottomline too.

 
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I don`t feel like looking it up, but who was the first RB drafted last season, and how did he fair?

I know the Lions traded up to get LeShoure and he did not make it out of camp.

 
I don`t feel like looking it up, but who was the first RB drafted last season, and how did he fair?I know the Lions traded up to get LeShoure and he did not make it out of camp.
You could say that about most positions though. Players disappointing or taking time to adjust to the speed of the NFL isn't just specific to running backs, nor are season ending injuries.
 
I don`t feel like looking it up, but who was the first RB drafted last season, and how did he fair?I know the Lions traded up to get LeShoure and he did not make it out of camp.
The Heisman winner that Richardson beat out for the job at Alabama.
 
I don`t feel like looking it up, but who was the first RB drafted last season, and how did he fair?I know the Lions traded up to get LeShoure and he did not make it out of camp.
The Heisman winner that Richardson beat out for the job at Alabama.
When exactly did Richardson beat out Ingram for the job? Lets not get all revisionist history here. In the same number of games, Ingram had 172 less carries than Ingram (429 vs. 257). He also had less receptions (53 vs. 39), and a LOT less rushing yards (2,533 vs 1,451).Richardson is great, but he never stole the #1 job from Ingram while they were playing together...
 
I don`t feel like looking it up, but who was the first RB drafted last season, and how did he fair?I know the Lions traded up to get LeShoure and he did not make it out of camp.
The Heisman winner that Richardson beat out for the job at Alabama.
When exactly did Richardson beat out Ingram for the job? Lets not get all revisionist history here. In the same number of games, Ingram had 172 less carries than Ingram (429 vs. 257). He also had less receptions (53 vs. 39), and a LOT less rushing yards (2,533 vs 1,451).Richardson is great, but he never stole the #1 job from Ingram while they were playing together...
Ingram entered the draft because Richardson was going to be the guy. It's the same reason Jamal Lewis entered the draft early from Tennessee. I like Ingram a lot, but if he'd stayed for his senior year he was going to be the 1A to Richardson. No, I wasn't at the meeting where Saban told them both. No, I don't have inside information. Yes, I am reading between the lines and you will disagree with me and that's fine.
 
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I don`t feel like looking it up, but who was the first RB drafted last season, and how did he fair?I know the Lions traded up to get LeShoure and he did not make it out of camp.
The Heisman winner that Richardson beat out for the job at Alabama.
When exactly did Richardson beat out Ingram for the job? Lets not get all revisionist history here. In the same number of games, Ingram had 172 less carries than Ingram (429 vs. 257). He also had less receptions (53 vs. 39), and a LOT less rushing yards (2,533 vs 1,451).Richardson is great, but he never stole the #1 job from Ingram while they were playing together...
Ingram entered the draft because Richardson was going to be the guy. It's the same reason Jamal Lewis entered the draft early from Tennessee. I like Ingram a lot, but if he'd stayed for his senior year he was going to be the 1A to Richardson. No, I wasn't at the meeting where Saban told them both. No, I don't have inside information. Yes, I am reading between the lines and you will disagree with me and that's fine.
Ingram was never going to stay for his senior year, just like Richardson is not now. When was the last time you saw a highly-rated Junior RB stick around for his senior season? It is VERY rare. They know the position has a shelf-life, so there more than any other they need to get to the NFL early.
 
Ingram was never going to stay for his senior year, just like Richardson is not now. When was the last time you saw a highly-rated Junior RB stick around for his senior season? It is VERY rare. They know the position has a shelf-life, so there more than any other they need to get to the NFL early.
2007.
 
I'll say this. The team(s) that pass on Richardson after the QBs are drafted will not be happy with their decisions when they have the benefit of hindsight.

 
Ingram was never going to stay for his senior year, just like Richardson is not now. When was the last time you saw a highly-rated Junior RB stick around for his senior season? It is VERY rare. They know the position has a shelf-life, so there more than any other they need to get to the NFL early.
2007.
So 1 guy 5 years ago is what you are hanging your hat on? Ok, here you go:2012:Trent RichardsonLamichael JamesLamar MillerDavid Wilson2011:Mark IngramRyan WilliamsShane VereenMikel Leshoure2010:Ryan MatthewsJahvid Best2009: Knowshon MorenoDonald BrownBeanie WellsLeSean McCoy (Redshirt Sophomore)Glen Coffee (yes, that luminary performer)2008:Darren McFaddenJonathan StewartFelix JonesRashard MendenhallRay RiceKevin SmithJamaal CharlesSteve Slaton2007: Adrian PetersonMarshawn LynchChris HenryI don't even know who you were talking about in 2007?
 
It appears this years free agency market for RB's is a window into how GM's view the position. The "top" UFA RB's are still floating around in MBush, Benson and BJE. And as further evidence, just look at the contracts that have been inked- Tolbert signing dirt cheap 4 year $8.4 million deal and Hillis 1 year $2.8 million. Why waste a top draft pick on a position a GM can easily buy on the cheap in UFA? Good luck doing that at OL/DE or DB-

 
It appears this years free agency market for RB's is a window into how GM's view the position. The "top" UFA RB's are still floating around in MBush, Benson and BJE. And as further evidence, just look at the contracts that have been inked- Tolbert signing dirt cheap 4 year $8.4 million deal and Hillis 1 year $2.8 million. Why waste a top draft pick on a position a GM can easily buy on the cheap in UFA? Good luck doing that at OL/DE or DB-
Those guys are all mediocre (and aging) talents that aren't worth spending the money on. I don't thimk their slow market indiucates anything other than the fact that those particular players aren't in any huge demand.
 
Add in that today has no bell cow for the RB position. I think anyone taking Richardson in the top 6 will be greatly disappointed because he will probably be RBBC at best because he is going to struggle in todays NFL with blitz packages. His IQ is not all that good. He is going to be a situational RB because that is the vogue in todays NFL also.

 
Add in that today has no bell cow for the RB position. I think anyone taking Richardson in the top 6 will be greatly disappointed because he will probably be RBBC at best because he is going to struggle in todays NFL with blitz packages. His IQ is not all that good. He is going to be a situational RB because that is the vogue in todays NFL also.
do you have support to the claim about his IQ??
 
Cosell is attempting to make an anti-George Kastanza argument where is everyone else is trying to get an elite QB then the elite RBs will fall and be such incredible values that you can win by being the anti-George.

"Every decision I have ever made in my entire life, has been wrong. My life is the complete opposite of everything I wanted to be. Every instinct I have, in every aspect of life, is it something to wear, something to eat, it’s all been wrong" - George Costanza

Great comedy concept but the long historical data doesn't support the elite RB theory. It does support the elite QB theory.

Trent Richardson should be an elite RB by all accounts but so what?

Where is the data that supports that having an elite RB wins championships?

Cosell didn't bring up that data because it doesn't exist.

 
Add in that today has no bell cow for the RB position. I think anyone taking Richardson in the top 6 will be greatly disappointed because he will probably be RBBC at best because he is going to struggle in todays NFL with blitz packages. His IQ is not all that good. He is going to be a situational RB because that is the vogue in todays NFL also.
Wow. This is all completely wrong.
 
2008:Darren McFaddenJonathan StewartFelix JonesRashard MendenhallRay RiceKevin SmithJamaal CharlesSteve Slaton2007: Adrian PetersonMarshawn LynchChris HenryI don't even know who you were talking about in 2007?
Don't know if McFadden was a junior, but he was eligible to come out in '07. The talk was he would have been the first RB taken, though Peterson's combine would have changed that.
 
Trent Richardson should be an elite RB by all accounts but so what? Where is the data that supports that having an elite RB wins championships?
Where's the data that being elite at any position other than QB wins championships? It's a team sport. Only one team gets to hold up the trophy at the end of the season.I continue to see the "when was the last time a RB picked early won a championship?" argument. It does hold some water, but was that RB surrounded by talent at other positions? We all know how good ADP was/is. The Vikings didn't threaten in the playoffs until they put a few more players in place.I'll agree that RBs have a smaller window than most players, but if you surround that elite player with other strong talent during that window the chance for team success increases. Elite talent at running back often shows much more in the stat book when the surrounding team is poor. It stands to reason when your most talented player is your RB you would give them the ball as much as possible. I think that's the stigma creating some of the "you don't need a great RB to win" arguments. Fantasy players in particular see a RB putting up monster stats while the rest of the team suffers.I guess my point is if Trent Richardson goes to a team like Cleveland he'll put up some great fantasy years. If he goes to a team like Tampa, considering the additions they've made via free agency, he gives them immediate production and a much greater chance of team success and playoff runs for the next several years. Moreso than a player that could take a few years to develop.
 
Add in that today has no bell cow for the RB position. I think anyone taking Richardson in the top 6 will be greatly disappointed because he will probably be RBBC at best because he is going to struggle in todays NFL with blitz packages. His IQ is not all that good. He is going to be a situational RB because that is the vogue in todays NFL also.
Except he's going to the Browns and has Hardesty to compete with.
 
Add in that today has no bell cow for the RB position. I think anyone taking Richardson in the top 6 will be greatly disappointed because he will probably be RBBC at best because he is going to struggle in todays NFL with blitz packages. His IQ is not all that good. He is going to be a situational RB because that is the vogue in todays NFL also.
Except he's going to the Browns and has Hardesty to compete with.
No he's not. Big Show was reluctant to draft RBs in Seattle and he'll carry that over.
 
'Grahamburn said:
'Bracie Smathers said:
Trent Richardson should be an elite RB by all accounts but so what? Where is the data that supports that having an elite RB wins championships?
Where's the data that being elite at any position other than QB wins championships? It's a team sport. Only one team gets to hold up the trophy at the end of the season.I continue to see the "when was the last time a RB picked early won a championship?" argument. It does hold some water, but was that RB surrounded by talent at other positions? We all know how good ADP was/is. The Vikings didn't threaten in the playoffs until they put a few more players in place.I'll agree that RBs have a smaller window than most players, but if you surround that elite player with other strong talent during that window the chance for team success increases. Elite talent at running back often shows much more in the stat book when the surrounding team is poor. It stands to reason when your most talented player is your RB you would give them the ball as much as possible. I think that's the stigma creating some of the "you don't need a great RB to win" arguments. Fantasy players in particular see a RB putting up monster stats while the rest of the team suffers.I guess my point is if Trent Richardson goes to a team like Cleveland he'll put up some great fantasy years. If he goes to a team like Tampa, considering the additions they've made via free agency, he gives them immediate production and a much greater chance of team success and playoff runs for the next several years. Moreso than a player that could take a few years to develop.
You make excellent points that winning a championship shows a high correllation to having an elite QB and that it isn't fair to point out the lack of data with having an elite RB.I agree but if having an elite QB shows a higher correlation then it begs the question what is on the opposite side to even out the elite QB correlation?In other words if having an elite QB shows a high correlation to winning a championship then their has to be a position where winning a championship has a less than equal or lower than avarage correlation. All positions cannot be equal if one position, QB, holds a higher correlation to winning a championship. Logically thier has to be at least one position that holds a lower than average correlation.I don't have anything against elite RBs. I love watching great RBs making fantastic plays yet few elite RBs have been key components of recent SB championships and many elite RBs never played in a SB game. The reasons why can be tracked to the fact that they burn out or get injured sooner, basically they don't hold the same shelf life as other positions. It is easy to see a positive impact from the RB position since if a team had an elite RB they would typically only have one elite RB per team just like elite QBs so its easier to see a positive or negative correllation to winning SB championships in comparision to having an elite QB with elite RBs.I agree with you that their isn't a high positive correlation to winning championships with any other positition than having an elite QB but I think that an elite RB is easier to compare with the QB position and I would say that if a team lacks an elite QB that paying a premium, such as a top five pick where the opportunity cost would be to take the elite RB over other positions is exactly what the Cosell article is all about.I think an elite RB prospect probably has a lower than average correllation to winning a SB than any other skill position but their are exceptions.If a team has other positions filled with solid or elite players then I think getting an elite RB is a perfect formula to winning a championship, for example the Cowboys taking RB Emmitt Smith AFTER they already had future HOF QB Troy Aikman and future HOF WR Micheal Irvin firmly and a rock solid OL in place where they were missing that elite RB to push them over the top but Smith wasn't a top ten let alone top five pick. Or if a team has a truly dominating defense then adding an elite RB is also a fantastic way to win a SB. The last top-five drafted RB who turned in eltie production for a SB winning team was probably Jamal Lewis but Baltimore had taken years to build up an elite defense so they didn't need elite QB production to win games. They needed a clock controlling running game to push them over the top. Elite RBs are great but probably have a lower correlation to winning a SB unless a team already has elite or solid players in place at other key skill positions or has a truly dominating defense in place. Then if an elite RB is an option then I think its a great way to win a SB, otherwise I see drafting an elite RB in the top five as a luxury selection that probably pushes a bad team away from winning a SB.
 
Also, though he wasn't a high pick by any means,I think we can all agree that Terrell Davis was an elite RB, and a key component to Denver's 2 Super Bowl victories. Another example of what you're saying, where, if all of the other pieces are in place, an elite RB can indeed be just what is needed to get that team over the hump.

 
Also, though he wasn't a high pick by any means,I think we can all agree that Terrell Davis was an elite RB, and a key component to Denver's 2 Super Bowl victories. Another example of what you're saying, where, if all of the other pieces are in place, an elite RB can indeed be just what is needed to get that team over the hump.
Terrell Davis was THE key component
 
Personally doubt that Richardson will be taken early, but it is possible with the new rookie salary structure. Although Reggie Bush was drafted second, he really never delivered on his promise or his resulting contract (26m guaranteed for a non feature back and pocketed north of 40 if not 50 from the Saints). Adrian Peterson by comparison got 17m guaranteed for being drafted seventh (and has gotten south of 35m in total for his efforts up to his second contract).Last years rookie contracts means that although a far larger share is guaranteed, the total is also greatly diminished. the top rb last year got 7.4m, of which less that 4 was guaranteed. to get an Adrian Peterson rookie guaranteed money, last year you'd have to be picked 6th - but with nothing not guaranteed on top.So if you think Trent Richardson is worth 21-22m guaranteed (and in total, allowing for a bit of an increase over last year), then the Browns could definitely take him 4th. As I said, I doubt that. Look at the contracts top offensive/Defensive linemen have been getting:2010 1.02 Ndamukong Suh, 40m guaranteed of up to 68m total1.03 Gerald McCoy, 35m guaranteed of up to 63m1.04 Trent Williams, 36m guaranteed of 60m1.06 Russell Okung, 30m guaranteed of 58m guaranteed of 28m1.10 Tuson Alualu, 17.5m 2011 1.03 Marcell Daraeus, 20.4m1.07 Aldon Smith, 14.4m1.09 Tyron SMith, 12.5m1.11 J.J. Watt, 11.2mSo if you are in the top 8-10 range your best bang for the buck is to get a lineman or a quarterback or maybe a top corner/safety - or these days a WRWith Luck and RGIII going in the first two spots there are still Kalil, Reiff, Blackmon, Claiborne, Coples, Cox, Poe, Tannehill in case someone is in love with him playing at positions where the rookie salary structure offers significantly larger savings in real dollars than RB. GMs look at the bottomline too.
This is an excellent post.
 
I've posted this on other boards - but I am of the opinion that drafting/signing a top RB actually hinders the long term success of the team *unless* the team already has a franchise QB.

 
I've posted this on other boards - but I am of the opinion that drafting/signing a top RB actually hinders the long term success of the team *unless* the team already has a franchise QB.
There really only 3 Franchise Quarterbacks in the NFL...Rodgers, Brees, Brady. None of these players has a Top RB. So I'm not sure where your "unless" comes from.
 
I've posted this on other boards - but I am of the opinion that drafting/signing a top RB actually hinders the long term success of the team *unless* the team already has a franchise QB.
There really only 3 Franchise Quarterbacks in the NFL...Rodgers, Brees, Brady. None of these players has a Top RB. So I'm not sure where your "unless" comes from.
Those guys are just top tier uber elite. Guys like Rivers, Big Ben, Cam, both Mannings and a few other guys are still franchise QBs. I think sn0mm1s makes sense. You are building the wrong way if you take a franchise RB before you have a franchise QB in place. Might need an oline before both of those, just ask Cutler.
 
Also, though he wasn't a high pick by any means,I think we can all agree that Terrell Davis was an elite RB, and a key component to Denver's 2 Super Bowl victories. Another example of what you're saying, where, if all of the other pieces are in place, an elite RB can indeed be just what is needed to get that team over the hump.
Terrell Davis was THE key component
If I recall my history, THE key component was the Denver superior blocking scheme and Davis understanding this used his one cut theory. Without the O line - Davis is just another good back and Elway doesn't have time to drop and set to win in 97 and 98.....
 
'Touchdown There said:
'Sabertooth said:
'sn0mm1s said:
I've posted this on other boards - but I am of the opinion that drafting/signing a top RB actually hinders the long term success of the team *unless* the team already has a franchise QB.
There really only 3 Franchise Quarterbacks in the NFL...Rodgers, Brees, Brady. None of these players has a Top RB. So I'm not sure where your "unless" comes from.
Those guys are just top tier uber elite. Guys like Rivers, Big Ben, Cam, both Mannings and a few other guys are still franchise QBs. I think sn0mm1s makes sense. You are building the wrong way if you take a franchise RB before you have a franchise QB in place. Might need an oline before both of those, just ask Cutler.
Exactly, I am not just talking about Brady, Brees, Peyton and Rodgers. Rivers, Big Ben, Newton, Eli, Stafford, Ryan, Flacco and Romo are all what I would consider franchise QBs based on their past performances. I don't think any of those QBs' teams, if their QB was healthy, would be looking to replace the QB anytime soon.
 
All of this is moot because Richardson isnt that good. You really only hear the level of excitement about him in fantasy circles, i suspect it will be a yearly recurrence with the consensus top RB.

 
Compare Richardson's numbers with Ingram's the year before, they are almist identical (Ingram had a better y/c actually). That should raise some question marks.

 
Add in that today has no bell cow for the RB position. I think anyone taking Richardson in the top 6 will be greatly disappointed because he will probably be RBBC at best because he is going to struggle in todays NFL with blitz packages. His IQ is not all that good. He is going to be a situational RB because that is the vogue in todays NFL also.
Except he's going to the Browns and has Hardesty to compete with.
No he's not. Big Show was reluctant to draft RBs in Seattle and he'll carry that over.
He drafted Shaun Alexander in the 1st round his 2nd year in Seattle.
 
Add in that today has no bell cow for the RB position.
Except Ray Rice, Adrian Peterson, Arian Foster, LeSean McCoy among others.
Only AP being a 1st round pick. You could have mentioned undrafted Fred Jackson as well- you can find successful rbs all over the draft, not to mention free agency. Not so much with QBs and other critical positions. Thats why i wouldnt roll the dice on a rb high in the 1st round.
 
Add in that today has no bell cow for the RB position.
Except Ray Rice, Adrian Peterson, Arian Foster, LeSean McCoy among others.
Only AP being a 1st round pick. You could have mentioned undrafted Fred Jackson as well- you can find successful rbs all over the draft, not to mention free agency. Not so much with QBs and other critical positions. Thats why i wouldnt roll the dice on a rb high in the 1st round.
Was simply pointing out his statement as written "no bell cow for RB position" is incorrect. Their are several.Not arguing if RB should be taken that early by a team that's several years away from competing at high level.
 
Compare Richardson's numbers with Ingram's the year before, they are almist identical (Ingram had a better y/c actually). That should raise some question marks.
I wouldn't read too much into that. For one thing, Ingram was a first round pick. Being compared to a first round pick isn't usually a bad thing.Also, Bama lost Julio Jones and Greg McElroy after the 2010 season. It seems to make sense that a weaker passing attack would make things more difficult for the running game. I liked Ingram, but Richardson is miles better.
 
Compare Richardson's numbers with Ingram's the year before, they are almist identical (Ingram had a better y/c actually). That should raise some question marks.
I wouldn't read too much into that. For one thing, Ingram was a first round pick. Being compared to a first round pick isn't usually a bad thing.Also, Bama lost Julio Jones and Greg McElroy after the 2010 season. It seems to make sense that a weaker passing attack would make things more difficult for the running game. I liked Ingram, but Richardson is miles better.
Ingram has hardly the league on fire, obviously its early but he looks to me like he'll be a fairly decent if unspectacular back. But will he have been worth that pick? I suspect not. And he's not a bust, this is about what should be expected in todays nfl. Thats the point. What evidence is there that Richardson is so much better than Ingram to make him elite in a passing league?
 

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