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Cotchery going forward (1 Viewer)

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Although the TD performance is next to nothing - in a point per rec league he was at least catching passes. Last week was terrible and I'm wondering if the Jets homers have insight into the game (since I didnt see it).

1. How many times was he targeted

2. Do you think Clemens continues to look the other way (especially with Coles out and Cotchery possibly drawing the best corner on each team played)

With Dallas this weekend, I'd expect the Jets to be down by the half and throwing but cant go another week with Cotchery catching 1 pass for 5 yards.

 
Coles was out last week right? I played Cotchery and I think he had one catch....
coles caught the first ball of the game(a flea flicker) and sprained his ankle being dragged down at the 2. As for cotch, i dont see his nmbers going up. He'sthe only threat and should get alot of attention from opponents. I wouldnt rely on him being anything more than a very bad WR2, and even that is pushing it.
 
He's WR26 In my league. With potential of moving up a few spots. I don' see him falling out of the top 30 though.

I'm starting him as my WR4 (flex) hoping for a 5-50 day with a potential TD.

 
Like any backup turned starter, Kellens will look to the guys he's practiced with in the beginning - that means Justin McCareins and Brad Smith will get more looks than they probably should. As a Jet fan, I expect Cotch to end up being his favorite target, though. Cotch is a good, tough WR. However, my opinion is more for a dynasty league than a redraft league - any Jet is a risky play for the rest of this season.

 
jwb said:
Like any backup turned starter, Kellens will look to the guys he's practiced with in the beginning - that means Justin McCareins and Brad Smith will get more looks than they probably should. As a Jet fan, I expect Cotch to end up being his favorite target, though. Cotch is a good, tough WR. However, my opinion is more for a dynasty league than a redraft league - any Jet is a risky play for the rest of this season.
No offense, but do you have any evidence to back this up? That is, any proof of backups turned starters targeting other (former) backups more often than other starters? I suspect that this is a myth, similar to the one about players in contract years playing better.
 
jwb said:
Like any backup turned starter, Kellens will look to the guys he's practiced with in the beginning - that means Justin McCareins and Brad Smith will get more looks than they probably should. As a Jet fan, I expect Cotch to end up being his favorite target, though. Cotch is a good, tough WR. However, my opinion is more for a dynasty league than a redraft league - any Jet is a risky play for the rest of this season.
No offense, but do you have any evidence to back this up? That is, any proof of backups turned starters targeting other (former) backups more often than other starters? I suspect that this is a myth, similar to the one about players in contract years playing better.
In the 2 other games Clemens has started (Week 2 @ Balt, Week 9 v. Redskins), Cotchery had 7 for 165 and 5 for 90. I'm looking at last week as an anomoly - the weather was lousy, Cotchery could have had a huge gain in the first half on which he got a PI call, he had another 10+ yard catch called back on a holding penalty, he had 3 or 4 other targets where they couldn't connect, and most importantly, the Jets had a lead for virtually the entire game, which I don't expect to be the case too often the rest of this year. I think that Cotchery will at least maintain the numbers he was putting up prior to last week, as well as actually get in the end zone a couple times - this year it seemed Pennington would almost exclusively look to Coles in the red zone (they must have tried the fade to Coles at least once every time they got inside the 10). With Clemens in and Coles out I suspect he should get some of those looks.
 
jwb said:
Like any backup turned starter, Kellens will look to the guys he's practiced with in the beginning - that means Justin McCareins and Brad Smith will get more looks than they probably should. As a Jet fan, I expect Cotch to end up being his favorite target, though. Cotch is a good, tough WR. However, my opinion is more for a dynasty league than a redraft league - any Jet is a risky play for the rest of this season.
No offense, but do you have any evidence to back this up? That is, any proof of backups turned starters targeting other (former) backups more often than other starters? I suspect that this is a myth, similar to the one about players in contract years playing better.
In the 2 other games Clemens has started (Week 2 @ Balt, Week 9 v. Redskins), Cotchery had 7 for 165 and 5 for 90. I'm looking at last week as an anomoly - the weather was lousy, Cotchery could have had a huge gain in the first half on which he got a PI call, he had another 10+ yard catch called back on a holding penalty, he had 3 or 4 other targets where they couldn't connect, and most importantly, the Jets had a lead for virtually the entire game, which I don't expect to be the case too often the rest of this year. I think that Cotchery will at least maintain the numbers he was putting up prior to last week, as well as actually get in the end zone a couple times - this year it seemed Pennington would almost exclusively look to Coles in the red zone (they must have tried the fade to Coles at least once every time they got inside the 10). With Clemens in and Coles out I suspect he should get some of those looks.
I'm a Jets fan and I support what this man said very strongly. Last week was an anomoly for Cotch. He'll rebound and rebound well. He's a tough and complete WR.However, all the redzone fade looks have been going to Brad Smith now that Coles is out. Smith has 3 very bad drops though in the past 2 games, one of which was a beautiful fade pattern from Clemens last weekend that would have won the game in regulation. Clemens couldn't have put it in a better spot and the ball landed directly in Smith's hands and was dropped. This may lead to Cotch getting the fades, but it has been all Brad Smith getting the ops since Coles has been out.

 
I was watching that game and I couldn't help but think how sweet it would have been if Coles were in at that time. You know he's catchin those balls Smith kept droppin. I personally don't mind all the fades to Coles. He catches them. It does concern me that Smith and McCareins are getting that many looks. But Cotch is a good WR and should bounce back.

 
Townsend was ALL OVER Cotchery last week. I would think against the Dallas seconday he bounces back nicely.

Clemens has a rapport with Smith it seems, but he's not going to be able to continue to throw to him with the amount of drops Smith's been having, so I would imagine the targets begin to increase for Cotchery.

Off-topic here, but Baker is also a guy would is being targeted quite a bit by Clemens and should continue to see targets. He's a nice pass-catching TE - especially in the red zone.

ETA:

With Clemens at the helm for a full game, Cotchery has been targeted as follows:

Code:
BAL - 11WAS - 11PIT - 5
Again, I think last week is more of a function of the Pitt defense and Deshea Townsend than anything else.
 
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Any early word on Coles? Cotchery could be a nice play today against that suspect DAL secondary. (And don't you just have to play a guy on Turkey Day right?)

:mellow:

 
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Any early word on Coles? Cotchery could be a nice play today against that suspect DAL secondary. (And don't you just have to play a guy on Turkey Day right?)

:mellow:
Coles is officially listed as questionable, but by most accounts, it looks like he's going to sit. Wait for the official list though.
 

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