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Could one of the top RB's make it to the Colts? (1 Viewer)

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With the recent FA signings in Minny(C.Taylor) and possibly Arizona (Edge), could one of the top rookie RB's (Bush, Williams, White or Maroney) make it to Indy with their late first round pick? It would be interesting what Indy ends up doing with their RB situation.

 
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With the recent FA signings in Minny(C.Taylor) and possibly Arizona (Edge), could one of the top rookie RB's (Bush, Williams, White or Maroney) make it to Indy with their late first round pick? It would be interesting what Indy ends up doing with their RB situation.
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With the recent FA signings in Minny(C.Taylor) and possibly Arizona (Edge), could one of the top rookie RB's (Bush, Williams, White or Maroney) make it to Indy with their late first round pick?  It would be interesting what Indy ends up doing with their RB situation.
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With the recent FA signings in Minny(C.Taylor) and possibly Arizona (Edge), could one of the top rookie RB's (Bush, Williams, White or Maroney) make it to Indy with their late first round pick? It would be interesting what Indy ends up doing with their RB situation.
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Why not? If Minny and Zona are out of the picture who else does that leave ahead of them?Houston (Bush only)

Jets (unless they stay at 4, probably either Bush or no one)

Baltimore (only if Lewis leaves)

NE (bit of a longshot)

You figure either Houston or the Jets get Bush and the other goes D'Brick, that's still only three teams (with four top RBs) even assuming that BOTH Balti and NE go RB in round 1 (which in itself seems a bit unlikely).

I would say there's a pretty good shot one of the big 4 RBs gets to Indy in the draft at this point.

EDIT: Nevermind, looks like you were just shaking your head at Bush being listed.

 
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With the recent FA signings in Minny(C.Taylor) and possibly Arizona (Edge), could one of the top rookie RB's (Bush, Williams, White or Maroney) make it to Indy with their late first round pick?  It would be interesting what Indy ends up doing with their RB situation.
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Why not? If Minny and Zona are out of the picture who else does that leave ahead of them?Houston (Bush only)

Jets (unless they stay at 4, probably either Bush or no one)

Baltimore (only if Lewis leaves)

NE (bit of a longshot)

You figure either Houston or the Jets get Bush and the other goes D'Brick, that's still only three teams (with four top RBs) even assuming that BOTH Balti and NE go RB in round 1 (which in itself seems a bit unlikely).

I would say there's a pretty good shot one of the big 4 RBs gets to Indy in the draft at this point.

EDIT: Nevermind, looks like you were just shaking your head at Bush being listed.
That one being Maroney. No way they have a shot at the other three. No chance.
 
Well - if the case can be made one of the 4 backs fits what Indy wants.

I think Addai fits the mold perfect there - and will be there whenthey pick.

Williams I think will be the one who falls - maybe out of the first.

 
With the recent FA signings in Minny(C.Taylor) and possibly Arizona (Edge), could one of the top rookie RB's (Bush, Williams, White or Maroney) make it to Indy with their late first round pick? It would be interesting what Indy ends up doing with their RB situation.
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Why not? If Minny and Zona are out of the picture who else does that leave ahead of them?Houston (Bush only)

Jets (unless they stay at 4, probably either Bush or no one)

Baltimore (only if Lewis leaves)

NE (bit of a longshot)

You figure either Houston or the Jets get Bush and the other goes D'Brick, that's still only three teams (with four top RBs) even assuming that BOTH Balti and NE go RB in round 1 (which in itself seems a bit unlikely).

I would say there's a pretty good shot one of the big 4 RBs gets to Indy in the draft at this point.

EDIT: Nevermind, looks like you were just shaking your head at Bush being listed.
That one being Maroney. No way they have a shot at the other three. No chance.
Well I certainly agree about Bush, I could see one of the other two (Williams/White) falling though just due to lack of teams with the need. If Edge signs in Zona, that eliminates them, Minnesota with Taylor, and Carolina inking Foster for big money probably knocks them out. Those are 3 teams that many had taking RBs in early mock drafts and we saw a few years ago how lack of need can cause top RBs to fall (Jackson to the Rams at 25).
 
I could certainly see one of the top RBs falling to the Colts. And unless something shakes up in the next month or so, I could certainly see them drafting one.

 
All these teams signing a RB does not exclude them from taking BPA. Well just Arizona if they get Edge,. All these RB's could end up in RBBC though and draft value would be hurt. I just think Alexander, McAllister, Johnson and McGahee being drafted despite no need for RB.

 
Reggie Bush is still most likely going number 1 overrall
Yeah, but he could drop to 30! You never know!!! :hophead: They won't look to shore up their RB situation with their first round pick now that there are holes at DT and SLB. Those are real holes, not their problem at RB.

Any RB playing on the same field as Peyton Manning is guaranteed 1200 yards. I don't see why they'd burn a first round pick on a RB when there are so many to choose from in the FA pool.

 
Reggie Bush is still most likely going number 1 overrall
Not if the Jets trade for the #1. They will wind up taking Leinart at #1. Then the question becomes where Bush lands?New Orleans? I think this would be a sign that Deuce's rehab maybe isn't going so well. Not sure how many years are left on his contract though. If they sign Brees, it may be a sign that they are interested in Bush. Does Bush go here? Or does he pull an Eli?

Tennessee? Although Brown and Henry aren't the best backs in the league, they are not completely useless. Most likely a Vince Young pick here (maybe Cutler). Just re-signed Henry as well.

Where after that? Most likely somebody trades up to snag Bush. Does Houston trade the #1 to the Jets and actually STILL have a shot at Bush. It would be insane to be sure but not completely out of the realm of possibility.

 
Reggie Bush will NOT drop out of the top 5.
You're right, no way Bush would drop at all. He'll be the first pick, for sure. I was just including him in the list of the the top 4.
 
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All these teams signing a RB does not exclude them from taking BPA. Well just Arizona if they get Edge,. All these RB's could end up in RBBC though and draft value would be hurt. I just think Alexander, McAllister, Johnson and McGahee being drafted despite no need for RB.
The only one of those examples that really fits here is McAllister, and even he was in a situation where the team was starting to realize that their starting RB was kind of well....crazy.As for the others...

Alexander and Johnson were drafted behind 30+ RBs (and in KC's case also a RB with no contract who they couldn't come to an agreement with). Their situations are comparable to the Jets and Patriots situation in this year's draft, both of which are teams I including on my list of possible destinations.

Likewise, Mcgahee was a special case in that he was seen as a special talent who dropped because of injury to a point where a team could use a late pick to get a guy with the talent to be a top 3 pick. There is no one comparable this year, though the "special talent" case where a guy could go to a team that has no need there falls right in line with listing Houston on my list for Bush, despite them having no need at RB.

I certainly agree with you that there are examples (like McAllister) of teams picking a guy in an area that they don't need, but likewise there are even more examples of guys with the talent to go fairly early falling much later because there is no need there. We saw it last year with Rodgers, we saw it the year before with Steven Jackson, and it's certainly not out of the question for it to happen again this year with a guy like Maroney, White, or possibly an outside shot of even Williams.

It's also reasonable to assume that the RB may not have to fall all the way down to 30 for Indy to nab them, as we've seen several instances where a guy falls far enough that he doesn't fall to a team, but close enough to a team where he was then in a spot that they could afford to trade up to (Jackson and the Rams, K. Jones and the Lions are examples of this).

Remember we've heard reports of how many GMs feel that this year's draft is set up such that after the top 15 or so, the next 40 prospects grade out very evenly and as such many teams in the 15-25 range will be looking to trade down. It's not unreasonable to assume that Indy could possibly trade up to that area if one of those guys that they really like is available there and they were unable to bring anyone in via FA (of course assuming Edge is gone as well).

 
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With the recent FA signings in Minny(C.Taylor) and possibly Arizona (Edge), could one of the top rookie RB's (Bush, Williams, White or Maroney) make it to Indy with their late first round pick?  It would be interesting what Indy ends up doing with their RB situation.
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Why not? If Minny and Zona are out of the picture who else does that leave ahead of them?Houston (Bush only)

Jets (unless they stay at 4, probably either Bush or no one)

Baltimore (only if Lewis leaves)

NE (bit of a longshot)

You figure either Houston or the Jets get Bush and the other goes D'Brick, that's still only three teams (with four top RBs) even assuming that BOTH Balti and NE go RB in round 1 (which in itself seems a bit unlikely).

I would say there's a pretty good shot one of the big 4 RBs gets to Indy in the draft at this point.

EDIT: Nevermind, looks like you were just shaking your head at Bush being listed.
That one being Maroney. No way they have a shot at the other three. No chance.
Well I certainly agree about Bush, I could see one of the other two (Williams/White) falling though just due to lack of teams with the need. If Edge signs in Zona, that eliminates them, Minnesota with Taylor, and Carolina inking Foster for big money probably knocks them out. Those are 3 teams that many had taking RBs in early mock drafts and we saw a few years ago how lack of need can cause top RBs to fall (Jackson to the Rams at 25).
There were plenty of teams in need that season that just passed on Jackson because he didn't grade out as highly on GM's boards as many scouts projected.Detroit had a need, and passed on him to take Roy Williams. Took Kevin Jones in the late 1st instead.

Bucs had a need, and took Clayton.

Broncos had a need, and passed on him. Took Bell in the early 2nd instead.

Dallas had a need, and traded the pick, took Julius Jones in the 2nd instead.

Bengals felt they had a need enough to take Perry, and traded the Rams the right to get Jackson.

 
All these teams signing a RB does not exclude them from taking BPA. Well just Arizona if they get Edge,.  All these RB's could end up in RBBC though and draft value would be hurt. I just think Alexander, McAllister, Johnson and McGahee being drafted despite no need for RB.
The only one of those examples that really fits here is McAllister, and even he was in a situation where the team was starting to realize that their starting RB was kind of well....crazy.As for the others...

Alexander and Johnson were drafted behind 30+ RBs (and in KC's case also a RB with no contract who they couldn't come to an agreement with). Their situations are comparable to the Jets and Patriots situation in this year's draft, both of which are teams I including on my list of possible destinations.

Likewise, Mcgahee was a special case in that he was seen as a special talent who dropped because of injury to a point where a team could use a late pick to get a guy with the talent to be a top 3 pick. There is no one comparable this year, though the "special talent" case where a guy could go to a team that has no need there falls right in line with listing Houston on my list for Bush, despite them having no need at RB.

I certainly agree with you that there are examples (like McAllister) of teams picking a guy in an area that they don't need, but likewise there are even more examples of guys with the talent to go fairly early falling much later because there is no need there. We saw it last year with Rodgers, we saw it the year before with Steven Jackson, and it's certainly not out of the question for it to happen again this year with a guy like Maroney, White, or possibly an outside shot of even Williams.

It's also reasonable to assume that the RB may not have to fall all the way down to 30 for Indy to nab them, as we've seen several instances where a guy falls far enough that he doesn't fall to a team, but close enough to a team where he was then in a spot that they could afford to trade up to (Jackson and the Rams, K. Jones and the Lions are examples of this).

Remember we've heard reports of how many GMs feel that this year's draft is set up such that after the top 15 or so, the next 40 prospects grade out very evenly and as such many teams in the 15-25 range will be looking to trade down. It's not unreasonable to assume that Indy could possibly trade up to that area if one of those guys that they really like is available there and they were unable to bring anyone in via FA (of course assuming Edge is gone as well).
The Seahawks also had Ahman Green, who many felt was the heir apparant. They of course dealt him for peanuts as a result of the Alexander pick.Duckett was drafted by the Falcons just after Dunn was signed to a pretty huge deal.

And like I said in my previous post, there were PLENTY of teams that needed RB, and even ultimately took one very early, that didn't take Jackson. He fell because he didn't grade out as highly on GM's boards and he did "expert" boards. The same happened with Rodgers last year. What team doesn't need QB help, especially if it's a great value? Teams just didn't fall into the same trap that San Fran did, jumping on a marginal prospect too early because of his position.

You just never know how it's going to go until the day of the draft. For all we know at this point, one of the top RB's could go to a backup situation earlier in the 1st, and the Colts are in love with Addai or Calhoun anyways and take him in the late 1st. Or they could have 2 of the big 4 available to them....

 
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Dont overlook the possiblity of the Colts trading up. They may or may not have to. If Maroney cant workout, they definately wont have to.

 
They just need to sign Jamal Lewis .

You offer him a one year deal , so he proves he is legit and his problems are behind him .

I am sure Jamal would play for less money in Indy , can you imagime what kind of numbers he could put in if he was serious again .

So he signs a one year deal for less money but then the year after ( of course if he performs and put up the kind of numbers he is capable of in a Idy offense ) he gats the huge contract he is waiting for .

He would help the Colts a lot more then any of those rookie RB including bush. Bush is nothing more then a Westbrook clone .

 
And like I said in my previous post, there were PLENTY of teams that needed RB, and even ultimately took one very early, that didn't take Jackson. He fell because he didn't grade out as highly on GM's boards and he did "expert" boards. The same happened with Rodgers last year. What team doesn't need QB help, especially if it's a great value? Teams just didn't fall into the same trap that San Fran did, jumping on a marginal prospect too early because of his position.
Here you're really just inadvertently giving another reason that one of the three (Williams, White, Maroney) could fall. Jackson was going top 10 in many mocks and still fell to 25, so why is it unreasonable to think that one of the three this year (most of whom are going outside the top 10 in most mocks, especially current mocks after the recent free agent signings) in a year with even less need for RBs will fall that far or further?Again, it doesn't take a fall all the way to 30. I would guess that if a guy like DeAngelo somehow fell into the 20's Indy would make a move on him, and could easily try and move up to 25 or so for White or Maroney.

You just never know how it's going to go until the day of the draft. For all we know at this point, one of the top RB's could go to a backup situation earlier in the 1st, and the Colts are in love with Addai or Calhoun anyways and take him in the late 1st. Or they could have 2 of the big 4 available to them....
What you said above is all I'm trying to say. The thread is "Could one of the top RB's make it to the Colts?" and my simple reply would by yes.There are half a dozen ways one of the three falls to Indy, and half a dozen ways none of the three make it to Indy. But my point is simply that at this point it's certainly a reasonable possibility (not a longshot like people may have thought a month ago) that at least one of them ends up in a position where Indy can get them.

 
And like I said in my previous post, there were PLENTY of teams that needed RB, and even ultimately took one very early, that didn't take Jackson.    He fell because he didn't grade out as highly on GM's boards and he did "expert" boards.   The same happened with Rodgers last year.   What team doesn't need QB help, especially if it's a great value?    Teams just didn't fall into the same trap that San Fran did, jumping on a marginal prospect too early because of his position.
Here you're really just inadvertently giving another reason that one of the three (Williams, White, Maroney) could fall. Jackson was going top 10 in many mocks and still fell to 25, so why is it unreasonable to think that one of the three this year (most of whom are going outside the top 10 in most mocks, especially current mocks after the recent free agent signings) in a year with even less need for RBs will fall that far or further?Again, it doesn't take a fall all the way to 30. I would guess that if a guy like DeAngelo somehow fell into the 20's Indy would make a move on him, and could easily try and move up to 25 or so for White or Maroney.

You just never know how it's going to go until the day of the draft.      For all we know at this point, one of the top RB's could go to a backup situation earlier in the 1st, and the Colts are in love with Addai or Calhoun anyways and take him in the late 1st.     Or they could have 2 of the big 4 available to them....
What you said above is all I'm trying to say. The thread is "Could one of the top RB's make it to the Colts?" and my simple reply would by yes.There are half a dozen ways one of the three falls to Indy, and half a dozen ways none of the three make it to Indy. But my point is simply that at this point it's certainly a reasonable possibility (not a longshot like people may have thought a month ago) that at least one of them ends up in a position where Indy can get them.
Honestly, I wasn't trying to argue that they won't make it to the Colts. Just derailing the thread because I disagree with the notion that the reason those other guys fell was because of team needs. :) I do agree on the other points. Right now, we have no clue what is going to happen on April 22nd. Just because a lot of "experts" and armchair QB's like LenDale White and DeAngelo Williams a lot, it doesn't mean that NFL GM's agree. Just because they don't feel that Addai or Calhoun aren't late 1st round material doesn't mean that NFL GM's agree. And just because these guys feel that the Panthers don't need another RB in light of the Foster signing doesn't mean that the Panthers GM agrees. It wasn't so long ago that Dunn signed a mega deal and we saw them follow it up with Duckett in the mid 1st. Foster's contract doesn't exclude that team from insuring him early. Anything can happen when draft day comes.

 
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Well - if the case can be made one of the 4 backs fits what Indy wants.

I think Addai fits the mold perfect there - and will be there whenthey pick.

Williams I think will be the one who falls - maybe out of the first.
Why do you think this? I've seen nothing that changes his ranking. I think the Colts will have either Maroney or Addai to choose from since Bush, Williams and White will go in the top 20 or so.

 
If Indy drafts a RB in round 1 it will be Brian Calhoun.
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It seems like Calhoun might be too small to do what he did in the pros. Now, if he puts on about 10-15lbs and doesn't have a drop-off in his skills, I could definitely see him the 4th RB off the board. To Indy? Dunno about that... at the best I would think they'd take either Addai/Calhoun/Maroney in the 2nd round. One of them is bound to fall to them.
 
They just need to sign Jamal Lewis .

You offer him a one year deal , so he proves he is legit and his problems are behind him .

I am sure Jamal would play for less money in Indy , can you imagime what kind of numbers he could put in if he was serious again .

So he signs a one year deal for less money but then the year after ( of course if he performs and put up the kind of numbers he is capable of in a Idy offense ) he gats the huge contract he is waiting for .

He would help the Colts a lot more then any of those rookie RB including bush. Bush is nothing more then a Westbrook clone .
The Colts like to run that stretch play to the outside and it doesn't play to Lewis' strength. I don't see Jamal as being a strong fit for this offense, they need a more versatile back who can catch. Polian said they would wait 3 weeks before entering the FA market, too, so I'd guess Lewis is signed by someone else by then anyway.The one guy everyone is forgetting is Rhodes, and since there aren't many good FA's left, maybe they go with him for a season and see if he can be their guy...should be interesting to see what the Colts do on draft day.

 
If Indy drafts a RB in round 1 it will be Brian Calhoun.
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:shock: No way the Colts sign Calhoun in the first round. There will only be a maximum of three running backs drafted in the first round. Calhoun is not one of the top 3 backs he is probably #5, or #6 best RB in this years draft. Think back two years ago and everyone thought S. Jax, K. Jones would be top 10-15 picks and it didnt happen they fell very late in the first round. If Colts draft a RB i see it being Williams, or White.

 
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They just need to sign Jamal Lewis .

You offer him a one year deal , so he proves he is legit and his problems are behind him .

I am sure Jamal would play for less money in Indy , can you imagime what kind of numbers he could put in if he was serious again .

So he signs a one year deal for less money but then the year after ( of course if he performs and put up the kind of numbers he is capable of in a Idy offense ) he gats the huge contract he is waiting for .

He would help the Colts a lot more then any of those rookie RB including bush. Bush is nothing more then a Westbrook clone .
The Colts like to run that stretch play to the outside and it doesn't play to Lewis' strength. I don't see Jamal as being a strong fit for this offense, they need a more versatile back who can catch. Polian said they would wait 3 weeks before entering the FA market, too, so I'd guess Lewis is signed by someone else by then anyway.The one guy everyone is forgetting is Rhodes, and since there aren't many good FA's left, maybe they go with him for a season and see if he can be their guy...should be interesting to see what the Colts do on draft day.
'The one guy everyone is forgetting is Rhodes' To those who have Him. :thumbup:
 
I just think Alexander, McAllister, Johnson and McGahee being drafted despite no need for RB.
I don't see why they'd burn a first round pick on a RB when there are so many to choose from in the FA pool.
If Indy drafts a RB in round 1 it will be Brian Calhoun.
Dont overlook the possiblity of the Colts trading up.
They just need to sign Jamal Lewis .
The one guy everyone is forgetting is Rhodes
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