Could Travis Henry be a top 6 pick? (1 Viewer)

[Thumper]

Let me preface this by saying that I do not necessarily believe that Henry should be taken this high,but I think you could make the argument.

The majority of draft boards have these players (in whatever order) going in the top five.

1/ LT

2/ Steven Jackson

3/ Larry Johnson

4/ Frank Gore

5/ Shaun Alexander

After that first tier is gone (I don't consider Alexander 1st tier anymore but most people do) it's a guessing game as to who will emerge as a top rb.

a) Willie Parker - May or may not be getting goal line carries + he is in an all new system. You don't really know what you are going to get.

b) Joseph Addai - Coach Dungy is on record as saying that Addai should continue to get 18 carries per week. No doubt his work load will go up, but is he going to get enough td's?

c) Brian Westbrook - Great #'s but far to fragile to spend you #1 pick on. I'd hate to waste my #1 pick on a guy who might only play in 12 games.

d) Rudi Johnson - ypc was way down last year. At best he is a late 1st rnd pick early 2nd rnd guy who will put numbers up because of the system he is in. He is consistent,but not good enough to take this high.3

e) Reggie Bush - Take away his last few games of the season he was a mediocre 3rd rb. No doubt he will improve, but he will not score enough to take him this high.

f) Lawrence Maroney -Great system, but his injuries worry me. Plus, early word of New England is that Heath Evans may be the goal line man. Worst of all New England might give him 25 touches one week and 8 the next. They change things up too often.

g) Edgerrin James - He is just a big name at this point behind that weak (3.4 ypc) offensive line. He is a late third round pick at best in 2007.

h) Clinton Portis - Already having physical problems. Not worth the headache or the high draft pick. This guy has bust written all over him.

That leads me to Travis Henry.

Is there a more perfect fit than Travis Henry and the Denver Broncos? His one cut/bruising style is exactly what coach Shanahan likes.

Just look at the numbers that mediocre runners like Mike Anderson,Tatum Bell and Olandis Gary have put up in Shanahan's system.

If Henry is given the job (and Mike Bell does not steal carries) isn't it possible that Henry could put up 1,500 yds and 14-17 td's?

In what was basically a rbbc situation a journeyman like Mike Anderson put up 1,014 yds + 13 td's (T.Bell in the same year had 921 yds and 8 td's) in 2005.

That's 1,935 yds and 21 td's combined.

If Travis Henry is the man in Denver (maybe 1st time since C.Portis one man gets the vast majority of carries) he could be a big time (somewhat) under the radar stud.

That said picking a Denver rb this high not named Terrell Davis is rolling the dice. You NEVER know what coach Shanahan is thinking (I can tell you from years of frustration) in terms of his rb's..

Am I off base by saying Henry might be the 5th or 6th best rb on the board?

My question is two fold.

1/ Where would you take Henry and why is he (or isn't) a better option than the 2nd tier of rb's listed?

2/ How do you rank the 2nd tier of rb's

Discuss

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

My top 5 is:

1 - LT

2 - SJax

3 - Addai

4 - Westbrook

5 - Henry

So, obviously, I would answer yes.

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

is he a bad pick? NO. if you think he'll give better marginal points (versus next best at his position) than anyone available to you at that time, and think that he won't be available in the next round, then TAKE HIM. and, for the record, here is my top five (personal predictions, not draft order for reasons in last sentence):

1) LT

2) MJD

3) Henry

4) SJax

5) Alexander

 

[nygiants56]

my top 5 is:

1. Sjax

2. LJ

3. Henry

4. LT

Henry is a top 3 RB , IMO. They're going to feed him the ball more than they did with Portis a few years ago..

350-400 carries..1500+ rush yards. 15+ tds...he's a stud this season..

 

[Da Guru]

I passed on SJax last year after asking the same question at #4.

 

[Routilla]

Without a doubt Henry could be a top 6 pick.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Wow, I'm glad I already got him in my redraft (He was picked 2.3. I had 2.4 and had to trade for him.) based on all of these posts. I hope we aren't jinxing him...

2) MJD

I'll be suprised if he is top 12... Taylor is still the #1 RB there...

 

[Mmen of Steel]

I think Tavis Henry is a top 10 RB...but a lot of people will look over him.

I am hoping to nab him as my RB2.

I think he is the first (of many) steals, come draft day.

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

Wow, I'm glad I already got him in my redraft (He was picked 2.3. I had 2.4 and had to trade for him.) based on all of these posts. I hope we aren't jinxing him...

2) MJD

I'll be suprised if he is top 12... Taylor is still the #1 RB there...

MJD was #8 RB last season. Fred Taylor was #20.MJD also only played from week 3 onward. (Weeks 1 and 2 he had 2 carries). If you take his average score from weeks 3-16 and give him that for games 1 and 2, he becomes #6 RB last season behind LT/LJ/SJax/Westbrook/Gore. (Yes this is a PPR league)I think he can only go up from here. Give him a few more touches per game, over 16 weeks, compared to last season, and he has the talent to crack top 3 EASY.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Wow, I'm glad I already got him in my redraft (He was picked 2.3. I had 2.4 and had to trade for him.) based on all of these posts. I hope we aren't jinxing him...

2) MJD

I'll be suprised if he is top 12... Taylor is still the #1 RB there...

MJD was #8 RB last season. Fred Taylor was #20.MJD also only played from week 3 onward. (Weeks 1 and 2 he had 2 carries). If you take his average score from weeks 3-16 and give him that for games 1 and 2, he becomes #6 RB last season behind LT/LJ/SJax/Westbrook/Gore. (Yes this is a PPR league)I think he can only go up from here. Give him a few more touches per game, over 16 weeks, compared to last season, and he has the talent to crack top 3 EASY.

You people need to SHUT UP. My draft is still a few weeks away and some league members visit this board. MJD sucks. He's a part-timer and Fred is THE MAN. Do you hear me?

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Wow, I'm glad I already got him in my redraft (He was picked 2.3. I had 2.4 and had to trade for him.) based on all of these posts. I hope we aren't jinxing him...

2) MJD

I'll be suprised if he is top 12... Taylor is still the #1 RB there...

MJD was #8 RB last season. Fred Taylor was #20.MJD also only played from week 3 onward. (Weeks 1 and 2 he had 2 carries). If you take his average score from weeks 3-16 and give him that for games 1 and 2, he becomes #6 RB last season behind LT/LJ/SJax/Westbrook/Gore. (Yes this is a PPR league)I think he can only go up from here. Give him a few more touches per game, over 16 weeks, compared to last season, and he has the talent to crack top 3 EASY.

You pretty confident he's going to maintain his 5.7 YPC?

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

Wow, I'm glad I already got him in my redraft (He was picked 2.3. I had 2.4 and had to trade for him.) based on all of these posts. I hope we aren't jinxing him...

2) MJD

I'll be suprised if he is top 12... Taylor is still the #1 RB there...

MJD was #8 RB last season. Fred Taylor was #20.MJD also only played from week 3 onward. (Weeks 1 and 2 he had 2 carries). If you take his average score from weeks 3-16 and give him that for games 1 and 2, he becomes #6 RB last season behind LT/LJ/SJax/Westbrook/Gore. (Yes this is a PPR league)I think he can only go up from here. Give him a few more touches per game, over 16 weeks, compared to last season, and he has the talent to crack top 3 EASY.

You pretty confident he's going to maintain his 5.7 YPC?

Yes. He created his own yardage last year. And he still has a great O-line.Getting the post back on topic, Henry has HUGE upside this year. He WON'T be there in the 2nd round. If you like him over the usuals, take him. For example, why is Addai going top 7 other than the fact he's on Indy? He has shown less than Cadillac Williams insofar as talent in this league - I doubt he'll be top 15, and yet people take him mid first round. I'd pass on Addai even at 1.12/2.01. And, I'd strongly consider Henry at 1.05 as well.

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Wow, I'm glad I already got him in my redraft (He was picked 2.3. I had 2.4 and had to trade for him.) based on all of these posts. I hope we aren't jinxing him...

2) MJD

I'll be suprised if he is top 12... Taylor is still the #1 RB there...

MJD was #8 RB last season. Fred Taylor was #20.MJD also only played from week 3 onward. (Weeks 1 and 2 he had 2 carries). If you take his average score from weeks 3-16 and give him that for games 1 and 2, he becomes #6 RB last season behind LT/LJ/SJax/Westbrook/Gore. (Yes this is a PPR league)I think he can only go up from here. Give him a few more touches per game, over 16 weeks, compared to last season, and he has the talent to crack top 3 EASY.

You pretty confident he's going to maintain his 5.7 YPC?

Yes. He created his own yardage last year. And he still has a great O-line.

You are aware that the all time NFL record is like 5.1 YPC (I believe). 5.7 is unheardof, even by Barry's standards. There's no way any NFL RB will ever average that high. (Unless you put Barry behind the Dallas OL. )

For example, why is Addai going top 7 other than the fact he's on Indy? He has shown less than Cadillac Williams insofar as talent in this league

Come on... Addai showed nothing? From what i saw he showed he is one of the next stud RBs. He's got very good running ability, very good receiving ability, and a very good head on his shoulders. The guy is about as safe a top pick as LT2, SJax, and Manning.

 

[Blackjacks]

Absolutely he could be. I, as well as others in this post, have him #3. When you look around you'll get alot of different answers for who to select in the #3 spot. I think Henry has a better supporting cast and a higher ceiling/lower floor than anyone else I'd put there.

 

[perry147]

He went #12 in a recent draft. I personally would not touch him in the first round but others seem to think differently.

 

[SSOG]

In my mind, LT/SJax/Gore/LJ are the creme de la creme, and then after that, there's anywhere between 5-8 RBs (depending on scoring system) who are all so closely bunched as to be a virtual coinflip. So no, I don't think it's silly to take Travis Henry with a top-6 pick.

 

[RabidRabbit]

My top 5 is:1 - LT2 - SJax3 - Addai4 - Westbrook5 - HenrySo, obviously, I would answer yes.

Hey I am for anyone working against the grain, but that projection will get you KILLED!!!! Horrible. Think it fine, but don't put it down in print. Yikes.

 

[JAA]

After this hand injury, I think Gore drops out of the top 6

 

[Anthony Borbely]

In my mind, LT/SJax/Gore/LJ are the creme de la creme, and then after that, there's anywhere between 5-8 RBs (depending on scoring system) who are all so closely bunched as to be a virtual coinflip. So no, I don't think it's silly to take Travis Henry with a top-6 pick.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

1) LT

2) MJD

3) Henry

4) SJax

5) Alexander

 

[fsufan]

1) LT

2) MJD

3) Henry

4) SJax

5) Alexander

 

[sjdogs]

great post, i have the 8 pick in a 10 team and pray to get him there.

 

[Pipes]

My top 5 is:1 - LT2 - SJax3 - Addai4 - Westbrook5 - HenrySo, obviously, I would answer yes.

Hey I am for anyone working against the grain, but that projection will get you KILLED!!!! Horrible. Think it fine, but don't put it down in print. Yikes.

Why? All of these guys have top 5 potential...these projections aren't too bad.

 

[Sketch]

1. LDT

2. SJ/LJ

3. Gore (handbreak effect pending)

4. Westbrook/Parker/Addai/Shaun

5. Rudi/Henry/Edge/Maroney/Willis

I've seen Henry placed as high as number 6 in expert projections, and he'd be a great pick at 9-12 if that sticks. I personally still haven't bought in yet.

 

[Buckna]

In my mind, LT/SJax/Gore/LJ are the creme de la creme, and then after that, there's anywhere between 5-8 RBs (depending on scoring system) who are all so closely bunched as to be a virtual coinflip. So no, I don't think it's silly to take Travis Henry with a top-6 pick.

My tier after the top 4 is huge and depending on how his hand injury goes, I may drop Gore into it. I couldn't fault any of these players going in the next 10 picks or so in any kind of order:

Addai

Maroney

Westbrook

Rudi

Bush

Henry

Alexander

Parker

Portis

Brown

 

[SSOG]

In my mind, LT/SJax/Gore/LJ are the creme de la creme, and then after that, there's anywhere between 5-8 RBs (depending on scoring system) who are all so closely bunched as to be a virtual coinflip. So no, I don't think it's silly to take Travis Henry with a top-6 pick.

My tier after the top 4 is huge and depending on how his hand injury goes, I may drop Gore into it. I couldn't fault any of these players going in the next 10 picks or so in any kind of order:

Addai

Maroney

Westbrook

Rudi

Bush

Henry

Alexander

Parker

Portis

Brown

That's why picking at the turn this year is so awesome. You get two RBs who were arguably good enough to have gone #5 overall.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

1) LT

2) MJD

3) Henry

4) SJax

5) Alexander

I gotta give props for going out on a limb like that - I can only see it happeneing if FTaylor went down for the year, but hey, stranger things have happened

 

[Anonymous Internet User]

1) LT

2) MJD

3) Henry

4) SJax

5) Alexander

I gotta give props for going out on a limb like that - I can only see it happeneing if FTaylor went down for the year, but hey, stranger things have happened

my arguments have already been laid out. he was #8 overall last year playing in 14 games, while sharing the load part time. no way he sees LESS of a load, and with an additional 2 games, he goes up and up in my book. please also note that i play in PPR leagues, and MJD will see 60+ receptions this year versus 20-30 for most RBs.

 

[Judge Smails]

I'm seriously considering taking him at 4. That's right. I'm assuming LT and SJax will be gone. I would need proof that SA is fully healthy before considering him, and I won't take LJ (had him last 2 years - watched every down in KC last year and I just can't watch that offense again, especially without Shields). Gore/Portis have shown to get nicked. Too high for Rudi. Only other one I'll consider there is FWP.

I just think Denver is tired of RBBC and Henry will be the man. He'll be the focal point of the offense and if any runner was built for this scheme, it's him. I may get laughed at taking him at 4, but sometimes you gotta go with your gut, dontcha?

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

I'm seriously considering taking him at 4. That's right. I'm assuming LT and SJax will be gone. I would need proof that SA is fully healthy before considering him, and I won't take LJ (had him last 2 years - watched every down in KC last year and I just can't watch that offense again, especially without Shields). Gore/Portis have shown to get nicked. Too high for Rudi. Only other one I'll consider there is FWP.I just think Denver is tired of RBBC and Henry will be the man. He'll be the focal point of the offense and if any runner was built for this scheme, it's him. I may get laughed at taking him at 4, but sometimes you gotta go with your gut, dontcha?

I picked 9 in my local redraft, and after the top 2 were off the board, my brother asked who I would pick if I were three. I said I couldn't say because I was hoping for him to fall to 9. Bottom line: Don't fall into the cookie cutter mentality. If you think a player is the next best available, and you think he won't be there the next time you pick, then take him and don't look back. (Ok, you can look back. That's part of what makes sport, and FF fun.)

 

[Chaka]

Anyone not putting him in the top 3 is making a mistake.

 

[PrinceofDarkness]

Henry isn't the slam dunk some seem to think he is:

A RB that will turn 29 in October

Has sported a 4.1 YPC career average with 34 career TDs.

He hasn't been ultra-durable through his career (does play hurt though)

Is a substandard receiver

He was a top 10 RB one time in his career (#8 in 2002)

Denver has a young QB (some teams may want to make Cutler beat them)

He is a fumbler (maybe more than any other HC in the NFL, this is definitely one of Skeltor's pet peeves)

I find it funny that some people in this thread have been so dismissive of Addai, yet overlook Henry's history because he is in a good situation. Addai is young in an awesome offense, Henry is old in a historically RB friendly offense that won't score nearly as many points.

IMHO, Addai is the Shark Play at 6, assuming Gore/LJ aren't bumped down. Henry would be a great pick at the turn, but he is far from a sure thing.

 

[Mmen of Steel]

Henry isn't the slam dunk some seem to think he is:A RB that will turn 29 in October Has sported a 4.1 YPC career average with 34 career TDs. He hasn't been ultra-durable through his career (does play hurt though)Is a substandard receiverHe was a top 10 RB one time in his career (#8 in 2002)Denver has a young QB (some teams may want to make Cutler beat them)He is a fumbler (maybe more than any other HC in the NFL, this is definitely one of Skeltor's pet peeves)I find it funny that some people in this thread have been so dismissive of Addai, yet overlook Henry's history because he is in a good situation. Addai is young in an awesome offense, Henry is old in a historically RB friendly offense that won't score nearly as many points.IMHO, Addai is the Shark Play at 6, assuming Gore/LJ aren't bumped down. Henry would be a great pick at the turn, but he is far from a sure thing.

Wait. Is "Shark Play" really trademarked ?? Now this I have to see....

 

[One]

I'm seriously considering taking him at 4. That's right. I'm assuming LT and SJax will be gone. I would need proof that SA is fully healthy before considering him, and I won't take LJ (had him last 2 years - watched every down in KC last year and I just can't watch that offense again, especially without Shields). Gore/Portis have shown to get nicked. Too high for Rudi. Only other one I'll consider there is FWP.I just think Denver is tired of RBBC and Henry will be the man. He'll be the focal point of the offense and if any runner was built for this scheme, it's him. I may get laughed at taking him at 4, but sometimes you gotta go with your gut, dontcha?

Is your league PPR? I wouldn't laugh at that pick if it wasn't.

 

[footballfreak99]

Not sure what makes everyone think Shanahan is going to just start Henry all year long, a guy that has major issues holding onto the football. I wouldn't touch him in the first. Could he do well enough to earn it? Yea. Will i risk it, heck no.

 

[CalBear]

Not sure what makes everyone think Shanahan is going to just start Henry all year long, a guy that has major issues holding onto the football. I wouldn't touch him in the first. Could he do well enough to earn it? Yea. Will i risk it, heck no.

Henry had just 3 fumbles, 1 lost in 2006. In 2005, 2 fumbles, 1 lost. 2004, no fumbles. Basically he had just one season, 2002, when he fumbled a lot. Pay attention.

 

[gianmarco]

Henry isn't the slam dunk some seem to think he is:

A RB that will turn 29 in October--Is only 8 months older than LT with less wear. You dropping LT as well because he's 28?

Has sported a 4.1 YPC career average with 34 career TDs.--Is that bad? Sported a 4.5 YPC last year in Tenn. It won't go down this year.

He hasn't been ultra-durable through his career (does play hurt though)--Aside from a broken leg once in 2004, has only missed one other game in his entire career due to injury (torn rib cartilage in last game of 2003). 1 game missed in 3 yrs as a starter.

Is a substandard receiver. He won't need to catch much.

He was a top 10 RB one time in his career (#8 in 2002). And #11 in 2003 (and missed that 1 game so would have been top 10).

Denver has a young QB (some teams may want to make Cutler beat them) So? LT had a young QB last year. Gore had a young QB last year. You think teams didn't know Gore was gonna run? You think they didn't try to make Alex Smith beat them?

He is a fumbler (maybe more than any other HC in the NFL, this is definitely one of Skeltor's pet peeves) Has a total of 4 fumbles in his last 2 yrs as a starter (3 in 2003 and 1 in 2006)

I find it funny that some people in this thread have been so dismissive of Addai, yet overlook Henry's history because he is in a good situation. Addai is young in an awesome offense, Henry is old in a historically RB friendly offense that won't score nearly as many points.

IMHO, Addai is the Shark Play at 6, assuming Gore/LJ aren't bumped down. Henry would be a great pick at the turn, but he is far from a sure thing.

You were saying?

 

[OldMilwaukee]

Not sure what makes everyone think Shanahan is going to just start Henry all year long, a guy that has had major issues holding onto the football. I wouldn't touch him in the first. Could he do well enough to earn it? Yea. Will i risk it, heck no.

Fixed

 

[footballfreak99]

Not sure what makes everyone think Shanahan is going to just start Henry all year long, a guy that has major issues holding onto the football. I wouldn't touch him in the first. Could he do well enough to earn it? Yea. Will i risk it, heck no.

Henry had just 3 fumbles, 1 lost in 2006. In 2005, 2 fumbles, 1 lost. 2004, no fumbles. Basically he had just one season, 2002, when he fumbled a lot. Pay attention.

Henry owner much?

 

[gianmarco]

Not sure what makes everyone think Shanahan is going to just start Henry all year long, a guy that has major issues holding onto the football. I wouldn't touch him in the first. Could he do well enough to earn it? Yea. Will i risk it, heck no.

Henry had just 3 fumbles, 1 lost in 2006. In 2005, 2 fumbles, 1 lost. 2004, no fumbles. Basically he had just one season, 2002, when he fumbled a lot. Pay attention.

Henry owner much?

What's the difference? Is being an owner of someone a bad thing? Is it what he posted a lie?Say stupid stuff much?

 

[footballfreak99]

Not sure what makes everyone think Shanahan is going to just start Henry all year long, a guy that has major issues holding onto the football. I wouldn't touch him in the first. Could he do well enough to earn it? Yea. Will i risk it, heck no.

Henry had just 3 fumbles, 1 lost in 2006. In 2005, 2 fumbles, 1 lost. 2004, no fumbles. Basically he had just one season, 2002, when he fumbled a lot. Pay attention.

Henry owner much?

What's the difference? Is being an owner of someone a bad thing? Is it what he posted a lie?Say stupid stuff much?

Henry owner too, much?

 

[footballfreak99]

Look, im not saying he wont do well this year until he gets pulled, but #4 is CRAZY "i own Henry" talk. Sorry it is.

 

[Tau837]

1) LT

2) MJD

3) Henry

4) SJax

5) Alexander

I gotta give props for going out on a limb like that - I can only see it happeneing if FTaylor went down for the year, but hey, stranger things have happened

my arguments have already been laid out. he was #8 overall last year playing in 14 games, while sharing the load part time. no way he sees LESS of a load, and with an additional 2 games, he goes up and up in my book. please also note that i play in PPR leagues, and MJD will see 60+ receptions this year versus 20-30 for most RBs.

He won't be close to 5.7 ypc. Probably won't be close to 9.5 ypr. Won't be close to 15 TDs. Also, while you noted that he didn't play the first 2 games last year, you didn't note that Taylor was injured and had only 9 carries in the last 3 1/2 games. Are you counting on that again? And you didn't mention Greg Jones either; he'll get some touches.

 

[jurb26]

1) LT

2) MJD

3) Henry

4) SJax

5) Alexander

I gotta give props for going out on a limb like that - I can only see it happeneing if FTaylor went down for the year, but hey, stranger things have happened

my arguments have already been laid out. he was #8 overall last year playing in 14 games, while sharing the load part time. no way he sees LESS of a load, and with an additional 2 games, he goes up and up in my book. please also note that i play in PPR leagues, and MJD will see 60+ receptions this year versus 20-30 for most RBs.

He won't be close to 5.7 ypc. Probably won't be close to 9.5 ypr. Won't be close to 15 TDs. Also, while you noted that he didn't play the first 2 games last year, you didn't note that Taylor was injured and had only 9 carries in the last 3 1/2 games. Are you counting on that again? And you didn't mention Greg Jones either; he'll get some touches.

MJD only touched the ball 6 times in the 1st 2 games. Only 7 times or less in 5 for the year. Are you counting on that again?

 

[harrycarey]

Not sure what makes everyone think Shanahan is going to just start Henry all year long, a guy that has major issues holding onto the football. I wouldn't touch him in the first. Could he do well enough to earn it? Yea. Will i risk it, heck no.

Henry had just 3 fumbles, 1 lost in 2006. In 2005, 2 fumbles, 1 lost. 2004, no fumbles. Basically he had just one season, 2002, when he fumbled a lot. Pay attention.

Henry owner much?

Getting much?

 

[PrinceofDarkness]

You were saying?

--Is only 8 months older than LT with less wear. You dropping LT as well because he's 28?First off, let's hold off on the LT comparisons. I'm merely noting that expecting a 29 year old to have his career year doesn't compute, especially when nothing in his history supports it.

--Is that bad? Sported a 4.5 YPC last year in Tenn. It won't go down this year.

Maybe 4.1 YPC isn't bad, it's average. Sort of like Henry's entire career.

--Aside from a broken leg once in 2004, has only missed one other game in his entire career due to injury (torn rib cartilage in last game of 2003). 1 game missed in 3 yrs as a starter.

And in 2004 when he missed a bunch of games with ankle/foot issues? Oh, that's right, he was the starter until another RB took it from him.

--He won't need to catch much.

Good receiving keeps a RB relevant in clear cut passing situations.

So? LT had a young QB last year. Gore had a young QB last year. You think teams didn't know Gore was gonna run? You think they didn't try to make Alex Smith beat them?

Good point. Some RB excel regardless. Henry didn't when JP Losman and Alex VanPelt were QB, but Willis McGahee did.

Has a total of 4 fumbles LOST in his last 2 yrs as a starter (3 in 2003 and 1 in 2006)

Corrected. In reality, he has fumbled 10 times in his last two seasons as a starter. And 11 times the year before that. Definitely not a problem.

Look, I agree that Henry is a worth first round pick, but to ignore his history is foolish. The collective euphoria in this thread had to be tempered.

 

[jurb26]

Good point. Some RB excel regardless. Henry didn't when JP Losman and Alex VanPelt were QB, but Willis McGahee did.

Has a total of 4 fumbles LOST in his last 2 yrs as a starter (3 in 2003 and 1 in 2006)

Corrected. In reality, he has fumbled 10 times in his last two seasons as a starter. And 11 times the year before that. Definitely not a problem.

I was really hoping nobody would mention this.

 

[footballfreak99]

Not sure what makes everyone think Shanahan is going to just start Henry all year long, a guy that has major issues holding onto the football. I wouldn't touch him in the first. Could he do well enough to earn it? Yea. Will i risk it, heck no.

Henry had just 3 fumbles, 1 lost in 2006. In 2005, 2 fumbles, 1 lost. 2004, no fumbles. Basically he had just one season, 2002, when he fumbled a lot. Pay attention.

Henry owner much?

Getting much?

I am a huge Broncos fan, do what you want, I'll do what I know. Even if we pretend I suck at FF, as a fan and season ticket holder, mark my words that Henry does not earn your first round picks. We was good value in the mid to late second. Now you need elite numbers to get value. Not smart given Shanahan's track record over the past few seasons. His "what have you done for me lately" mentality won't change and the line will make anyone produce. Think what you want, no prob, maybe it is my fault for walking into a henry support thread thinking i was gonna change the world. It really is my own fault. Hope it works out for you guys, really.

 

[footballfreak99]

Good point. Some RB excel regardless. Henry didn't when JP Losman and Alex VanPelt were QB, but Willis McGahee did.

Has a total of 4 fumbles LOST in his last 2 yrs as a starter (3 in 2003 and 1 in 2006)

Corrected. In reality, he has fumbled 10 times in his last two seasons as a starter. And 11 times the year before that. Definitely not a problem.

I was really hoping nobody would mention this.

 

[Tau837]

1) LT

2) MJD

3) Henry

4) SJax

5) Alexander

I gotta give props for going out on a limb like that - I can only see it happeneing if FTaylor went down for the year, but hey, stranger things have happened

my arguments have already been laid out. he was #8 overall last year playing in 14 games, while sharing the load part time. no way he sees LESS of a load, and with an additional 2 games, he goes up and up in my book. please also note that i play in PPR leagues, and MJD will see 60+ receptions this year versus 20-30 for most RBs.

He won't be close to 5.7 ypc. Probably won't be close to 9.5 ypr. Won't be close to 15 TDs. Also, while you noted that he didn't play the first 2 games last year, you didn't note that Taylor was injured and had only 9 carries in the last 3 1/2 games. Are you counting on that again? And you didn't mention Greg Jones either; he'll get some touches.

MJD only touched the ball 6 times in the 1st 2 games. Only 7 times or less in 5 for the year. Are you counting on that again?

The poster I responded to already addressed the first two games. I agree that he won't likely have 5 games with 7 or fewer touches. I also don't think he'll have 85 touches in the last 4 games. It's effectively a wash.I expect around 240 touches for MJD. But at lower ypc and ypr, with fewer TDs. That equates to less production. This assumes MJD, Taylor, and Jones are all healthy, as I am not in the habit of attempting to predict injuries.