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Covid and School This Fall (1 Viewer)
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Doug B
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My son's high school is close to this. Unvaccinated close contacts (and there have been 80-ish so far this school year) have to stay home from school for ten calendar days. Vaccinated close contacts don't have to quarantine at all.
UOFI_316
Footballguy
Eventually every kid will fall into the vaccinated or "sick within 90 days" categories and then they don't need to do anything. It is a race between the schools to see who can reach herd immunity via exposure first.
The Commish
Footballguy
Terrible policy decisions is our shtick here in Florida....the rest of you need to back off! 
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Ilov80s
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belljr
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Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
I’m actually ok with this as long as they’re asymptomatic. Maybe add a masking requirement for 10 days if the school doesn’t already require it. The way delta is spreading, if I had a kid who is fully vaccinated and wearing a mask, I’d hate for them to constantly be quarantined and disrupting their learning. At the very least, I think their quarantine should be shortened.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Our school starts at 7:15 so by 10:00 AM kids are hungry. I would guess many of the kids don't even eat breakfast just because they are teens who are probably milking every second of sleep possible. Honestly, the kids who complained last year were the kids who had the last lunch. Not sure why it wouldn't limit the spread. We had a mask policy in halls and classrooms. Lunch was the only time kids were gathered in large groups without masks.
Captain Cranks
Footballguy
After just two weeks of school and several "there was a case of Covid" phone calls, my kid's school is mandating masks again (Hillsborough County). I like seeing them flip Grim the bird.Terrible policy decisions is our shtick here in Florida....the rest of you need to back off!
The Commish
Footballguy
Any my county (Volusia) just keeps kicking the can down the road. I sat in on a board meeting of my kids' school (charter school) on Friday night. The Principal (brand new this year) is hiding behind the fear of losing funding. The board was NOT happy with that reasoning. I don't know what it will do, if anything, but that gave me a little bit of comfort knowing not everyone involved with the school has lost it.
DallasDMac
Footballguy
I'm not sure what school he's referring too (can only see what you quoted as I admittedly don't see any of his posts). But the majority of San Antonio, where I believe this school would be, has ignored the governor's mandate and required masking. It's much more efficient when the governor lets the grown ups do their job and run the show.
Yup - my daughter starts class at 7:30, and has lunch at 1:15. Thats a long day before lunch.
belljr
Footballguy
I think its a good strategy - 10 is just early for me. My kid eats breakfast has lunch around 11:30 but she has to pack a second lunch extra snacks since practice goes from 2:45-5
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yeah it’a not ideal but we are trying to prevent a packed cafeteria full of kids without masks.
Doug B
Footballguy
At the moment at my son's school, they're having lunch outdoors -- 90+ degree heat & 90+ % humidity notwithstanding. They've had to bring it in a few times because of rain.
One good thing about SE Louisiana: once summer's over, it's feasible to do outdoor lunch year round. The absolute coldest mid-day temperatures in the dead of winter would be in the mid-40s, and even those days would be infrequent. Sunny, cool 55-65 F noonday temps are more the norm for January & February.
One good thing about SE Louisiana: once summer's over, it's feasible to do outdoor lunch year round. The absolute coldest mid-day temperatures in the dead of winter would be in the mid-40s, and even those days would be infrequent. Sunny, cool 55-65 F noonday temps are more the norm for January & February.
One of those rare moments when I can say we are lucky to be in Kentucky.
Governor who has allowed school districts to make their own decisions on masks - and Lexington has opted for a mask requirement. We've had notices of a few small quarantines in both high schools where our kids are, but most of the covid-related issues are coming in the elementary schools where kids are not vaccinated.
Governor who has allowed school districts to make their own decisions on masks - and Lexington has opted for a mask requirement. We've had notices of a few small quarantines in both high schools where our kids are, but most of the covid-related issues are coming in the elementary schools where kids are not vaccinated.
Nathan R. Jessep
Footballguy
do your schools allow parents to eat lunch with the kids?
That's something that my school (a smaller school, which is helpful there) has always allowed that I thought was kind of neat as long as a parent isn't coming every day to the school. Last year they did away with that because kids ate their lunches in classrooms or outside. Looks like this year they are allowing parents to eat with the kids again. This, um, doesn't seem like a grand idea considering our current uncontrolled spread. Other than this, I think my school has done a pretty good job of mitigation, but this one has me scratching my head a bit.
That's something that my school (a smaller school, which is helpful there) has always allowed that I thought was kind of neat as long as a parent isn't coming every day to the school. Last year they did away with that because kids ate their lunches in classrooms or outside. Looks like this year they are allowing parents to eat with the kids again. This, um, doesn't seem like a grand idea considering our current uncontrolled spread. Other than this, I think my school has done a pretty good job of mitigation, but this one has me scratching my head a bit.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I cannot help in any way to the furthering or advancement of this thread, however I did want to share that it dawned on me that a high school Sophomore in the '19-'20 school year saw Seniors not have a traditional graduation and were likely thinking that in '21 they would see the class ahead of them get back on track and it was a mixed bag I think we can all safely say that Covid was a major part of their lives their entire Junior Year of high school but there was still maybe their Senior Year, things could return to normal but alas NO!!!
-It's starting to really concern me what the long term ramifications of this type of mental trauma which it truly is even if not quite as intense or extreme as say bombs falling out of the sky in Britain during WWII for school children but still in today's world they certainly were not conditioned for this and I am starting to wonder what things lie ahead that we aren't even thinking about right now. The poor kids who are starting Kindergarten behind masks, so sad but likely necessary for all safety involved
And that isn't to try and sway anything in terms of how we need to protect our children and staff at these schools but it's worrisome and it could create other health issues and crisis we aren't even looking at right now because we are at each other's throats over how to set up these schools to please everyone which will never be achieved IMHO.
Frustrating
-It's starting to really concern me what the long term ramifications of this type of mental trauma which it truly is even if not quite as intense or extreme as say bombs falling out of the sky in Britain during WWII for school children but still in today's world they certainly were not conditioned for this and I am starting to wonder what things lie ahead that we aren't even thinking about right now. The poor kids who are starting Kindergarten behind masks, so sad but likely necessary for all safety involved
And that isn't to try and sway anything in terms of how we need to protect our children and staff at these schools but it's worrisome and it could create other health issues and crisis we aren't even looking at right now because we are at each other's throats over how to set up these schools to please everyone which will never be achieved IMHO.
Frustrating
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Ministry of Pain
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Oh and one more thing...from a PR standpoint and I care little which side you want to waive your flag on but the optics of the Florida School debacle right now are beyond my understanding and comprehension. Why would you not allow school districts to govern themselves in this moment of time and need? They did it when things first started unrolling and they passed legislature, many of these counties and municipalities giving them the right to pretty much rule and mandate as they see fit over and above anything the good man from either party that happens to hold office in Tallahassee says.
Then suddenly just like people not wanting to wear masks, certain leaders wanted to feel more in control and made sweeping decisions that cannot work for everyone in all 4 regions of this State. This caused in my opinion a necessary pushback from some of these counties, but especially Palm Beach, Broward and my homeland of Dade County, why would you want to force them into things they cannot possibly fulfill and the logistics nightmare you create in the end, who suffers the most? Anyone...Anyone?
And back to you in the studio, Johnny!
Then suddenly just like people not wanting to wear masks, certain leaders wanted to feel more in control and made sweeping decisions that cannot work for everyone in all 4 regions of this State. This caused in my opinion a necessary pushback from some of these counties, but especially Palm Beach, Broward and my homeland of Dade County, why would you want to force them into things they cannot possibly fulfill and the logistics nightmare you create in the end, who suffers the most? Anyone...Anyone?
And back to you in the studio, Johnny!
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DallasDMac
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It's just politics MOP. Don't make it any more complicated than it needs to be. Some folks will do whatever they think it will take to get them (re)elected no matter the price. We have the same issue here in Texas. It really is just that simple.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Wife and I had a 1.5 hour "discussion" last night about kids (8 year old twins) returning to school on Monday next week. A few facts:
In our locale, cases are currently at 13/100k daily. This is up like 600% from the low 6-8 weeks ago (pre-Delta). Not quite at winter peak levels, but still not good, and not a good trajectory. Vaccination rates are OK locally with 65% with one dose and 59% fully vaxxed, but this varies by geography, income, and race within the city (follows trends seen nationwide). Obviously, none of the kids (unless in 7th or 8th) in their school will be vaccinated for COVID19. There are about 650 kids in the school in grades K-8, so likely 600 in K thru 6th. All kids and staff will be masked 100% unless eating, but we all know how effective kids masking is...
Each classroom will be treated as a "pod". The school has no outdoor lunch tables, so all lunch will be eaten in the cafeteria. Each grade will eat at the same time slot to spread out the kids. Kinder and 1st will eat in their classrooms to reduce exchange between pods. The district will perform pool testing on all kids each Monday, with results coming back within 36 hours. Each pod will be tested as a group. Any positive case and the whole class gets sent home for quarantine, after which full PCR tests are administered individually to ID the actual positive cases. Once PCR comes back clean, the child may return to class. While out on quarantine, the kids will be asynchronous and get "packets".
The rub here is that the district requires parental consent (opt-in) forms for each student before testing can begin. The district has said that testing will not start until Week 3 of school at the earliest, no matter if all forms for any one class are completed. So all kids come in with unknown status and unchecked spread will happen in those first 2+ weeks.
There is no virtual learning available for the kids unless they were signed up in the middle of the summer, and that was for a full year of instruction. Cannot hop back from in-person to virtual, it's a one time switch. We did not sign up for virtual for many reasons.
My wife wants to hold the kids back until testing begins or the Delta surge peters out. With cases rising in the community and the largest pool of unvaccinated people congregating together, it feels like too much risk in her mind. I am of the opinion that the risks to the kids are relatively small, and we need to prepare for our kids to become COVID positive at some point in 2021. She didn't like that... The FDA is unlikely to give EUA until October at the earliest and then it'll take weeks to get the supply chain prepped for mass vax for kids. My hunch is that my kids are unlikely to get even their first dose before Xmas. Anyway, I say the risk of poor outcomes for them is very small, and even if they get an infection, they are more likely to not notice.
The only options it seems is to either roll the dice and let them go to school or have them miss the first 2 weeks of school at the minimum.
Thoughts?
I should mention that my wife is a faculty member in a school of public health...
In our locale, cases are currently at 13/100k daily. This is up like 600% from the low 6-8 weeks ago (pre-Delta). Not quite at winter peak levels, but still not good, and not a good trajectory. Vaccination rates are OK locally with 65% with one dose and 59% fully vaxxed, but this varies by geography, income, and race within the city (follows trends seen nationwide). Obviously, none of the kids (unless in 7th or 8th) in their school will be vaccinated for COVID19. There are about 650 kids in the school in grades K-8, so likely 600 in K thru 6th. All kids and staff will be masked 100% unless eating, but we all know how effective kids masking is...
Each classroom will be treated as a "pod". The school has no outdoor lunch tables, so all lunch will be eaten in the cafeteria. Each grade will eat at the same time slot to spread out the kids. Kinder and 1st will eat in their classrooms to reduce exchange between pods. The district will perform pool testing on all kids each Monday, with results coming back within 36 hours. Each pod will be tested as a group. Any positive case and the whole class gets sent home for quarantine, after which full PCR tests are administered individually to ID the actual positive cases. Once PCR comes back clean, the child may return to class. While out on quarantine, the kids will be asynchronous and get "packets".
The rub here is that the district requires parental consent (opt-in) forms for each student before testing can begin. The district has said that testing will not start until Week 3 of school at the earliest, no matter if all forms for any one class are completed. So all kids come in with unknown status and unchecked spread will happen in those first 2+ weeks.
There is no virtual learning available for the kids unless they were signed up in the middle of the summer, and that was for a full year of instruction. Cannot hop back from in-person to virtual, it's a one time switch. We did not sign up for virtual for many reasons.
My wife wants to hold the kids back until testing begins or the Delta surge peters out. With cases rising in the community and the largest pool of unvaccinated people congregating together, it feels like too much risk in her mind. I am of the opinion that the risks to the kids are relatively small, and we need to prepare for our kids to become COVID positive at some point in 2021. She didn't like that... The FDA is unlikely to give EUA until October at the earliest and then it'll take weeks to get the supply chain prepped for mass vax for kids. My hunch is that my kids are unlikely to get even their first dose before Xmas. Anyway, I say the risk of poor outcomes for them is very small, and even if they get an infection, they are more likely to not notice.
The only options it seems is to either roll the dice and let them go to school or have them miss the first 2 weeks of school at the minimum.
Thoughts?
I should mention that my wife is a faculty member in a school of public health...
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
We did cyber last year. Sending in-person starting Monday. Masks required. I am pretty nervous too.
JaxBill
Footballguy
Wife teaches 4th/5th grade at local Catholic school(North Florida). They've been back for a few weeks. School is enforcing masks. Kids are in pods. They have had a few positives but with their rules, they have had more kids miss because of close contact. The kids who have tested positive have shown mild or no symptoms.
The kids HATE the virtual classroom and want to get back with their friends. Overall, performance im her classes is vastly improved with in person attendance (no matter how hard Mom /Dad tries to "help" ).
They had a SuperSpreader event at a parent house last weekend that temporarily kept half the boys in one class home for a couple days as a precaution.
Most of the staff is vaxxed and/or had it in Spring.
Everyone is waiting for numbers to go down so they can ditch masks. Florida SEEMS to be plateauing. Diocese has decided that percent of positive tests must be 10% or lower to ditch masks. This makes no sense to me since the only people looking for tests now are the ones with symptoms. Per capita new cases makes much more sense IMO
The kids HATE the virtual classroom and want to get back with their friends. Overall, performance im her classes is vastly improved with in person attendance (no matter how hard Mom /Dad tries to "help" ).
They had a SuperSpreader event at a parent house last weekend that temporarily kept half the boys in one class home for a couple days as a precaution.
Most of the staff is vaxxed and/or had it in Spring.
Everyone is waiting for numbers to go down so they can ditch masks. Florida SEEMS to be plateauing. Diocese has decided that percent of positive tests must be 10% or lower to ditch masks. This makes no sense to me since the only people looking for tests now are the ones with symptoms. Per capita new cases makes much more sense IMO
Ilov80s
Footballguy
My district has announced if staff or students plan to not wear a mask, they have to provide proof of vaccination. Honestly, I will probably just wear a mask since I am sure it's only a matter of time before the District or County or Dept of Health Services mandates it anyway. Bummer but what are you gonna do.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
got the weekly, "someone has covid at school" email. in the email, it says that they are contacting those people that were in close contact with the sick person. we have yet to be contacted. 
kids and faculty are mandatory masks, while indoors. lunch is a #### show. first football game is 9/3. should be interesting. the district isn't prepared to go virtual, if things really go sideways. this is HS, in CA.
kids and faculty are mandatory masks, while indoors. lunch is a #### show. first football game is 9/3. should be interesting. the district isn't prepared to go virtual, if things really go sideways. this is HS, in CA.
belljr
Footballguy
We had probably 20 if not more of those last year ...always pins and needles to wait for the everyone has been contacted email.got the weekly, "someone has covid at school" email. in the email, it says that they are contacting those people that were in close contact with the sick person. we have yet to be contacted.
kids and faculty are mandatory masks, while indoors. lunch is a #### show. first football game is 9/3. should be interesting. the district isn't prepared to go virtual, if things really go sideways. this is HS, in CA.
I'll be less concerned this year for now....
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The plan for NYC schools was just announced...
Masks required
Kids will be kept 3 ft apart when possible
Kids will be kept in the same room including lunch
10% of Unvaccinated children will be tested every other week
If a kid tests positive, the class quarantines for 10 days and remote learn for elementary schools
If a kid is close contact and vaccinated, they can return to school for middle and high school
If a kid is close contact and unvaxxed, they can return to school after 7 days if they test negative
Masks required
Kids will be kept 3 ft apart when possible
Kids will be kept in the same room including lunch
10% of Unvaccinated children will be tested every other week
If a kid tests positive, the class quarantines for 10 days and remote learn for elementary schools
If a kid is close contact and vaccinated, they can return to school for middle and high school
If a kid is close contact and unvaxxed, they can return to school after 7 days if they test negative
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Man, I really hope we are not just guaranteeing our kids get covid before they can get vaccinated (and bringing it home). My kids are 7 and 4.5 and will be attending in-person and masked. But I am getting wary.
We toured the oldest’s school (new building) last night along with all the other families basically. All actually complied with the masking, so that was a positive. I could tell my son was nervous though and today he mentioned not wanting to go to school, partially because he has to wait in the gym with all the kids from the school before the teachers take you to your class. So he needs to be there and be around people again, but I get not wanting to be in that crowd too!
We toured the oldest’s school (new building) last night along with all the other families basically. All actually complied with the masking, so that was a positive. I could tell my son was nervous though and today he mentioned not wanting to go to school, partially because he has to wait in the gym with all the kids from the school before the teachers take you to your class. So he needs to be there and be around people again, but I get not wanting to be in that crowd too!
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Definitely feels that way, doesn't it? Delta + in-person 100% + no vax = bad news for pediatric cases.
ignatiusjreilly
Footballguy
Interesting that they're still doing that. Both Miami-Dade and my younger son's private school did away with quarantining entire classes this year. Selfishly, I'm glad because I don't want my kids on a constant yo-yo between in-school and remote. But I have no idea what the science says about it as a way of limiting outbreaks. I remember hearing last year that there were very few outbreaks tied to in-person school, and that the vast majority of positives were students catching it outside and bringing it to the school, rather than getting it from someone at school. But I don't remember the details, and not sure how Delta affects that equation.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
We got a head start last school year - it's why our overall vaccine numbers kind of suck and/or are lagging but I think we may be high up there towards getting to heard immunity.
Our week 4 case counts actually went down. I'm not totally sold these are accurate but I can't use them to say we have a problem and then they go down and say I don't believe them. I just find it hard to believe we went down this week. Maybe Delta burned faster than expected here and/or we already have so many with antibodies.
Courtjester
The Town Drunk
Wife visited several schools today--multiple classrooms shut down due to outbreaks.
We got a phone call two nights ago from our 17 year old's principal. Our daughter was in close contact with a positive case and would need to quarantined unless we could send a copy of her vaccine card in (which we did) . Now up to eight confirmed cases in one of her classes (I thought there was some confidentiality HIPPA rights, but obviously not) and the school is debating what to do with that subject. My daughter is freaked because she is wondering, should she wear a mask, is she contagious even though she isn't sick. Just uncertainties I don't need her to be worrying about--especially since she suffers from anxiety and depression and she is new to this school and finding her way there.
We got a phone call two nights ago from our 17 year old's principal. Our daughter was in close contact with a positive case and would need to quarantined unless we could send a copy of her vaccine card in (which we did) . Now up to eight confirmed cases in one of her classes (I thought there was some confidentiality HIPPA rights, but obviously not) and the school is debating what to do with that subject. My daughter is freaked because she is wondering, should she wear a mask, is she contagious even though she isn't sick. Just uncertainties I don't need her to be worrying about--especially since she suffers from anxiety and depression and she is new to this school and finding her way there.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
got a loooooooong email from the superintendent of the district today. outlining the quarantine procedures moving forward, they are long, complicated, and don't make much sense. they are doing everything they can to keep everything open 100%(with masks) no matter what.
Well we’ve been doing the responsible parent thing and keeping our girls home when they are sick. Our youngest (pre-K) has been home since Wednesday and our 1st grader was home today. The usual, horrible runny nose, sneezing, coughing, etc. Could be any number of viruses but whatever it is, I’ve got it too. My home COVID test on Wednesday was negative, testing everyone tonight.
GordonGekko
Footballguy
Leeroy Jenkins said:
I have over a thousand employees and this situation ripples in a different direction. All of this is chaos for businesses as well. People want to prioritize their children and their safety and I get that. I agree with it. Kids should come first. But part of the issue is stressed out and embattled parents make for a lot of poor work product.
So this extends beyond just money and into a functioning economy. If the economy collapses, we all die. Without a functioning economy, social order will break down with the loss of health care, food distribution, fuel resupply, no education and crippling our critical emergency service networks.
If you are churning out poor work produce, you lose revenue and maybe you have to start laying people off to meet the shortfall. I refused to lay anyone off during this pandemic and I refused to make anyone take a paycut.
So the decision I made seemed like the only practical choice. I've had some of my attorneys start digging into the CSEC and look into starting a private school. That way there can be legal pathway for a satellite program. I'll hire teachers and the kids of my employees can learn on Zoom or whatnot. This way those kids can be pulled out of schools for their safety. Obviously this is more feasible for the younger kids than the older ones. The older ones, I've talked to some of my employees and encouraged them to push them to join the military if they are close enough in age for that to be an option. The military will give them steady work and medical and I just don't see going off to college as a great ROI at this point for most people.
I've talked to other people in different industries and I am not the only one considering this. Obviously the bigger juggernaut corporations have more resources to do something like this on a broader scale.
I see as a Win/Win given a relatively screwed up situation. My employees won't be able to do much about the emotional / mental / socialization / development problems that will arise from this much isolation in their kids, but they won't be hotboxed with COVID19 in a school district where it's going to be hit or miss on competency. It will incur costs for me, but in exchange I'll salvage some productivity out of it and it will help me recruit in the near and long term future as an incentive to work for Gekko Brand. I've talked to some of my core employees and many have been honest in that they'd take a pay cut to get their kids into functional home schooling that's safer. But I'm not prepared to do that. I remember being hit with a pay cut early in my working life when every last dime counted and I didn't forget what it felt like.
I didn't truly understand until I had to raise my godson. Before, I didn't think about the quality of teachers at the local high school or if the school district was going to lose some after school program or consider some kind of other issue like bullying. I had other responsibilities. But when I had to actually raise a kid, I had to think about all of this. I had to think about someone else's future and consider the impact of everything I said and did every single day that might shape him into one kind of person versus another kind of person. I didn't understand what it meant to have sleepless nights over some conflict arising from basic parenting. I didn't understand what it meant to deal with school bureaucracy, bloat, corruption and incompetence. And I was far luckier than most starting out. I had an entire lifetime of working and business building to have a resource base to fall back on to help bridge some gaps before I had to actually parent. I could take time off to go to a sporting event. I could decide spending on this or that to help his development was a good idea and didn't have to worry about robbing from some other necessity. Many parents didn't and don't have those options.
If I didn't raise my godson, very likely my approach with my employees might be different. But like most situations like this, they are a surrogate family. Many have been loyal to me for years and years.
One of my accountants, being the nickel squeezing stalwart I expect, said this might not be a smart idea. But as Shepard Book said, if you can't do something smart, at least do something right.
My take?
#### these schools. I'll start my own.
Honestly? Some of you should consider doing the same.
I do feel for all of you. I feel for your kids. This is a tragic and complicated situation. And lots of people won't really understand. I didn't understand until I had the obligation of another human being's well being and future in my hands.
It's interesting what you are capable of in this brutal life when you've committed yourself to loving someone else more than you could ever love yourself.
-fish-
Footballguy
I previously encouraged my kid to go to her senior year of high school, since she hasn't attended any classes since the first semester of her freshman year due to a pre-covid issue. Now as the concerns with the delta variant and other potential variants rise, I'm going to let her do online again if that's what she wants. I just feel for her that she's not going to have any sort of high school experience on the social side to speak of.
trader jake
Footballguy
This, unfortunately.The Z Machine said:
Stinky bait. Glad to read you are now pro-empathy though.
GordonGekko
Footballguy
I don't see the problem here. It's clear the government at a federal, state, city and local level have no ability to keep America's children safe and to properly educate them.
Then homeschooling is the only alternative. And if you are going to do that, then find a logistical plan to make the time/financial/investment aspects of it add up in a positive way.
If I am going to be fair about it, it cuts both ways. Those without kids can often be callous about what goes on with how kids are raised today. BUT PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN PROBLEMS. YOU AND OTHERS WITH CHILDREN ARE NOT ENTITLED TO HAVE THEM CARE ABOUT YOUR PROBLEMS.
There's a subset of parents out there, not all, but quite a few, where anything that isn't in their advantage for them and their kids is some kind of tyrant. And that's just not the case. People don't understand until they get there themselves , if ever. That's not a question of empathy, it's a question of resource management. You only have so much time, money, energy and emotion to give in a day.
I see a lot of complaining here and most people can understand the pain and conflict - but the question becomes what are you going to do about it? The government and the politicians have failed your kids, so it's up to you to save them.
Many of you are going to have to bite the bullet and find a way to homeschool your kids. Or complain and do nothing and wait for the inept government and school districts to send your kids into the COVID19 grinder.
I can tell you why many people do walk away. These three categories - Single mothers, educators and many parents who had far too many unresolved issues before they started reproducing - are some of the most entitled smug selfish people I've ever met. It's this entitlement that raises these expectations that someone is going to come save you in this situation. No one is coming.
That's it. That's the deal.
