Crabtree over/under 1200 yards (1 Viewer)

[mrip541]

In a recent podcast interview Mike Singletary was asked "over/under 1200 receiving yards for Michael Crabtree?" He answered, "Yes."

Big time prediction, or artful question dodge?

 

[Casting Couch]

I like Crabtree a lot going foward. Having said that, I'll go UNDER.

 

[LittlePhatty]

I like Crabtree a lot but I think Frank Gore and Vernon Davis are obviously options #1 and #2 in that offense.

Under 1,200, but it wouldn't surprise me if he gets 1,000 this year.

 

[Black]

For the entire interview (ESPN Fantasy Focus, 08/03) with Matt Berry, Singletary just kept to the schtick of we are going to win games. He didn't seem to understand (or care) about Fantasy Football or Stats. I don't think he understood the concept of 'over/under.'

Nothing he said was helpful for Fantasy, except that he thought Tedd Ginn would compete with Morgan for the #2 spot. But not sure what else a head coach is supposed to say, except 'every spot has competation.'

 

[finito]

Not confident about this at all, but I'll go over. I just think he's gong to be so good they will find ways to get him the ball.

 

[Clifford]

Under 1200, over 1100.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I like Crabtree a lot but I think Frank Gore and Vernon Davis are obviously options #1 and #2 in that offense.Under 1,200, but it wouldn't surprise me if he gets 1,000 this year.

Over 1000 - under 1200 with QB being a ? and the other options around him.

 

[LBH]

i think Crabtree is going to have a big season and think he will be option #1 in the passing game not V.Davis

 

[LBH]

going to take the over

 

[Rovers]

I like Crabtree a lot but I think Frank Gore and Vernon Davis are obviously options #1 and #2 in that offense.Under 1,200, but it wouldn't surprise me if he gets 1,000 this year.

Crabtree has the potential to unseat Davis in the passing game. He was almost at a 1000 yard pace last year, given his missing the beginning of the season. This year with a TC under his belt, he should be a near lock for 1000. 1200, I dunno... I think it's 50-50 either way.

 

[zadok]

Over. By a hair.

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

I think Davis' production may drop a tad and Crabtree bump a bit. I see around 1050 yards for Crabtree. If Davis gets injured he may break 1200 but I just don't see SF throwing enough.

 

[nittanylion]

The 1200 Yard plateau is the 'Super Elite Upper Tier' of WR Yardage / Regular Season. Very tough to hit, and were he to do it, it would put him likely well within the Top 12 WR overall statistically...and while he's close, I don't have him quite there.

I think he's a lock for 960 (60 YPG on average), and I have him at 1040 ((65 YPG on average). Due to the combo of Gore/VDavis being touch hogs, some potentially erratic QB play, a solid D, and likely a conservative game plan on the part of Coach Singletary, I don't think he can average 75 YPG, which is what it would take to get him to 1200.

 

[LTF]

Under.

<-- Doesn't buy into the Alex Smith hype at all. At best, he'll be mediocre/league average.

 

[SSOG]

The 1200 Yard plateau is the 'Super Elite Upper Tier' of WR Yardage / Regular Season. Very tough to hit, and were he to do it, it would put him likely well within the Top 12 WR overall statistically...and while he's close, I don't have him quite there.I think he's a lock for 960 (60 YPG on average), and I have him at 1040 ((65 YPG on average). Due to the combo of Gore/VDavis being touch hogs, some potentially erratic QB play, a solid D, and likely a conservative game plan on the part of Coach Singletary, I don't think he can average 75 YPG, which is what it would take to get him to 1200.

Excellent analysis all around.

 

[zadok]

Under. <-- Doesn't buy into the Alex Smith hype at all. At best, he'll be mediocre/league average.

Good QB not required. See Calvin Johnson 08.

 

[B. Nugget]

Under. <-- Doesn't buy into the Alex Smith hype at all. At best, he'll be mediocre/league average.

Good QB not required. See Calvin Johnson 08.

I probably depends how the team does as a whole. If they are going to be as good as some think with that division, they may be running the clock later in the game. If they are in a bunch of shootouts, the sky is the limit...see example from above with Calvin.

 

[butcher boy]

Definitely over.

Not only did he miss a good chunk of games last year, but he also missed valuable training camp time causing every single expert to say that he wouldnt make any impact at all. But he STILL performed as good as he did.

The kid is a stud and Alex Smith will be just good enough to get him to that level.

Adjust Vernon's numbers down and put Crabtree's up up up.

 

[LTF]

Under. <-- Doesn't buy into the Alex Smith hype at all. At best, he'll be mediocre/league average.

Good QB not required. See Calvin Johnson 08.

True, but San Francisco has a good running offense that it naturally leans on, whereas that Lions team was atrocious in that aspect. Gore will still be the focal point and I don't think Smith is good/consistent enough to produce a 1,200+ yard receiver.

 

[TommyGilmore]

I vote OVER. Way over. Well, not way over, but I think the 49ers are primed to win the division and Crabtree could very well top 1400 yards.

 

[LBH]

Under. <-- Doesn't buy into the Alex Smith hype at all. At best, he'll be mediocre/league average.

Good QB not required. See Calvin Johnson 08.

True, but San Francisco has a good running offense that it naturally leans on, whereas that Lions team was atrocious in that aspect. Gore will still be the focal point and I don't think Smith is good/consistent enough to produce a 1,200+ yard receiver.

then see Roddy White 07

 

[TommyGilmore]

then see Roddy White 07

1200 yards with Harrington/Redman/Leftwich throwing to him.Other young WRs to put up 1200+ yards with subpar quarterbacks:Germane Crowell, 1999 (Gus Frerotte & Charlie Batch)Plaxico Burress, 2002 (Kordell Stewart & Tommy Maddox)Anquan Boldin, 2003 (Jeff Blake)Lee Evans, 2006 (J.P. Losman)

 

[Fly]

then see Roddy White 07

1200 yards with Harrington/Redman/Leftwich throwing to him.

Other young WRs to put up 1200+ yards with subpar quarterbacks:

Germane Crowell, 1999 (Gus Frerotte & Charlie Batch)

Plaxico Burress, 2002 (Kordell Stewart & Tommy Maddox)

Anquan Boldin, 2003 (Jeff Blake)

Lee Evans, 2006 (J.P. Losman)

Did you just pull out Germane Crowell? Awesome! I haven't heard that name in a long time... a long time.And can I take 1200 +/- 25? To me, 75 yards per game sounds about right. After Gore, Davis, and Crabtree there isn't a whole lot to be excited about in that offense. Sure Morgan will get some catches and they might try to get Ginn the ball a few times but after the main 3 there's a HUGE dropoff in production.

Last year: Alex Smith 225-372 (60.5%), 2350, 18 TD, 12 int in 11 games. If we take that out to 16 games we get...

327-541(!), 3418, 26-17

Let's not forget that Alex Smith feels comfortable in a spread-style offense. Let's not forget that Michael Crabtree feels comfortable in a spread-style offense. When Smith got the starting nod they went to the spread and they slung the ball, a lot (like a spread offense requires). So don't be fooled by others telling you that they're going to run run run until Gore's legs fall off.

Yes, I understand Gore is the key to the puzzle. But as long as defenses have to worry about him that frees up VD and Crabs (gross) with less double-teams and more chances to expose single coverage with spread-style routes. Or VD running down the seam (gross again).

 

[JPeso]

Love the guy, but under.

 

[Multiple Scores]

Under but close, from the spotlight thread

90/1125/8He should have a mini breakout year this season and next season he will break out into elite territory, he has all the skills, fantastic hands, a "my ball" mentality and this will be his fourth year playing WR. A true star in the making and someone I would build my franchise and fantasy team around.

 

[socrates]

Crabtree may well be one of the emerging young talents at WR in the league, but I am going with under here. That said, nobody will be surprised if he breaks 1,200 yards.

 

[OnThInIcE911]

Under 1200 but over 1000.

Wouldn't be surprised if he breaks 1200 just don't think its more likely than not.

 

[pgreenfan]

Crabtree is an upper tier talent and despite his mediocre situation I expect to see him take a jump to elite status. 78 Catches 1240 yards with 11 scores.

 

[Genghis Khan]

If he doesn't go over, Singletary will moon him.

 

[Islander]

V Davis the number 1? Last year yes, this year no. I would take Crabtree over V Davis. And I would take the under for both.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Crabtree is an upper tier talent and despite his mediocre situation I expect to see him take a jump to elite status. 78 Catches 1240 yards with 11 scores.

Thank you for playing but Crabtree will not average 16 yds/catch.

 

[fightingillini]

I think Crabtree can grab 80 passes this year....at a 14 YPR clip, I see him getting about 1100 yards, so I will take the under.

 

[Kenny Powers]

In a recent podcast interview Mike Singletary was asked "over/under 1200 receiving yards for Michael Crabtree?" He answered, "Yes."

For my money, under

 

[Jack Burton]

under

He should end up somewhere in the 1000-1100 range

 

[Balco]

I am the biggest Crabtree supporter as there is on this board. 1200 is doable, but it will be tough. Double digit td's are more likely, IMO.

 

[zoobird]

I agree with most of the other posters here. Under, because 1,200 is less than 50/50 for all but the most elite WR, but I think Crabtree is excellent and wouldn't be shocked if he proves me wrong.