Crazy Video of Bikers vs SUV (1 Viewer)

[Jojo the circus boy]

Has there been any clarification anywhere of what led to the incident before the video starts up? I recall one article mentioned there had been some kind of issue when the SUV had tried to merge on the highway, which was presumably then what led to the motorcycle break checking the guy. Have the full details of that, or whatever else might have caused it initially, been given?

As far as I know, that is the reason, even the bikers are saying that they wanted their "pack" to stick together.

 

[jason12vb]

Far as I know, the media does not know what started the whole thing.

My assumptions based off of what I've read have been.

1) That the guy just merged into the pack (no bumping anyone) and the pack didn't appreciate it and tried to force the guy behind them so they could have the road to themselves.

2) Anyone that says the thing that started the whole thing was the SUV bumping someone, is referring to the brake-check incident we've all seen. Their statements either have no facts of anything that happened before it, or they don't see anything wrong with the bikers trying to control the SUV which preceded the break-check bump.

 

[Clifford]

Has there been any clarification anywhere of what led to the incident before the video starts up? I recall one article mentioned there had been some kind of issue when the SUV had tried to merge on the highway, which was presumably then what led to the motorcycle break checking the guy. Have the full details of that, or whatever else might have caused it initially, been given?

As far as I know, that is the reason, even the bikers are saying that they wanted their "pack" to stick together.

Seems pretty irrelevant.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Far as I know, the media does not know what started the whole thing.

My assumptions based off of what I've read have been.

1) That the guy just merged into the pack (no bumping anyone) and the pack didn't appreciate it and tried to force the guy behind them so they could have the road to themselves.

2) Anyone that says the thing that started the whole thing was the SUV bumping someone, is referring to the brake-check incident we've all seen. Their statements either have no facts of anything that happened before it, or they don't see anything wrong with the bikers trying to control the SUV which preceded the break-check bump.

IF HE JUST STOPPED !!!!!!!!!

 

[doowain]

Wait, I thought these were bikers? All I saw was wannabes on crotch rockets and dirt bikes.

FWIW, I've never known anyone with a crotch rocket that wasn't a complete tool.

 

[jason12vb]

Wait, I thought these were bikers? All I saw was wannabes on crotch rockets and dirt bikes.

Like

FWIW, I've never known anyone with a crotch rocket that wasn't a complete tool.

I only know two...but full disclosure, I didn't know one very well before he got into a pretty bad accident on his bike, so I have no real evidence that he wasn't a tool before said accident and though the other is a respectful, down to earth college kid that everyone seems to love...he also took his last bike off of a 20 foot cliff one night (but only broke a finger).

 

[Wrigley]

Has there been any clarification anywhere of what led to the incident before the video starts up? I recall one article mentioned there had been some kind of issue when the SUV had tried to merge on the highway, which was presumably then what led to the motorcycle break checking the guy. Have the full details of that, or whatever else might have caused it initially, been given?

As far as I know, that is the reason, even the bikers are saying that they wanted their "pack" to stick together.

Thought I read they were trying to close down the Highway so they could do "tricks"

 

[TheIronSheik]

Has there been any clarification anywhere of what led to the incident before the video starts up? I recall one article mentioned there had been some kind of issue when the SUV had tried to merge on the highway, which was presumably then what led to the motorcycle break checking the guy. Have the full details of that, or whatever else might have caused it initially, been given?

As far as I know, that is the reason, even the bikers are saying that they wanted their "pack" to stick together.

Thought I read they were trying to close down the Highway so they could do "tricks"

I heard they were protesting the government shutdown.

 

[Wrigley]

Has there been any clarification anywhere of what led to the incident before the video starts up? I recall one article mentioned there had been some kind of issue when the SUV had tried to merge on the highway, which was presumably then what led to the motorcycle break checking the guy. Have the full details of that, or whatever else might have caused it initially, been given?

As far as I know, that is the reason, even the bikers are saying that they wanted their "pack" to stick together.

Thought I read they were trying to close down the Highway so they could do "tricks"

I heard they were protesting the government shutdown.

to do tricks?

 

[Sinn Fein]

Has there been any clarification anywhere of what led to the incident before the video starts up? I recall one article mentioned there had been some kind of issue when the SUV had tried to merge on the highway, which was presumably then what led to the motorcycle break checking the guy. Have the full details of that, or whatever else might have caused it initially, been given?

As far as I know, that is the reason, even the bikers are saying that they wanted their "pack" to stick together.

Thought I read they were trying to close down the Highway so they could do "tricks"

I heard they were protesting the government shutdown.

I thought I read that they were on their way to a Tea Party Rally

 

[cobalt_27]

Sooooo.....did they at least arrest some people? Are there statements? What were these guys attempting to do here?

Don't know. Thread become unreadable once 5 digit showed up.

Every thread he posts in becomes unreadable. And, while he's obviously bringing a knife to a gun fight, intellectually, I'm convinced people lose at least 10 IQ points just by sparring with him.

 

[Abraham]

Of COURSE Gloria Alred is now involved....

 

[Sand]

Has there been any clarification anywhere of what led to the incident before the video starts up? I recall one article mentioned there had been some kind of issue when the SUV had tried to merge on the highway, which was presumably then what led to the motorcycle break checking the guy. Have the full details of that, or whatever else might have caused it initially, been given?

As far as I know, that is the reason, even the bikers are saying that they wanted their "pack" to stick together.

Thought I read they were trying to close down the Highway so they could do "tricks"

I heard they were protesting the government shutdown.

to do tricks?

www.wheeliesagainstobamacare.org

 

[Jaysus]

Of COURSE Gloria Alred is now involved....

S,? I missed that/.

 

[Rayderr]

Of COURSE Gloria Alred is now involved....

S,? I missed that/.

Representing Meezee (the guy who got run over and paralyzed)

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

Justice

 

[T Bell]

Justice

Even more justice

 

[glock]

Facebook comments on the LIE bust:

"I love blocking the hole when they ride between lanes in slow moving traffic on the highway. They get so pissed. lol. They are lucky, the next guy might try to hit them instead. I might have saved a life."

"i love kicking off the mirrors of people who try to block me in thats even better! then laugh when theyre stuck in traffic and i ride away. think again before you block someone in next time,,,when your driving home with a shattered mirror maybe youll think to yourself "i shouldve just minded my own business"

"people think theyre so tough now that the media is making us look like bad guys...you wanna be a #### and block me in while im minding my own business passing through bumper to bumper traffic not hurting anoyone? fine with me enjoy the nice bill from the body shop"

"Ive kicked off a couple mirrors and kicked dents in some fenders when #######s do that ####. Cali its legal to split lanes but you always come across ##### that do it. People here dont get that some are use to being allowed to do it. Either way us going ahead of you really doesnt apprehend you at all in your travels"

 

[SeaDogStat]

Justice

Even more justice

Wow...

 

[TheIronSheik]

Facebook comments on the LIE bust:

"I love blocking the hole when they ride between lanes in slow moving traffic on the highway. They get so pissed. lol. They are lucky, the next guy might try to hit them instead. I might have saved a life."

"i love kicking off the mirrors of people who try to block me in thats even better! then laugh when theyre stuck in traffic and i ride away. think again before you block someone in next time,,,when your driving home with a shattered mirror maybe youll think to yourself "i shouldve just minded my own business"

"people think theyre so tough now that the media is making us look like bad guys...you wanna be a #### and block me in while im minding my own business passing through bumper to bumper traffic not hurting anoyone? fine with me enjoy the nice bill from the body shop"

"Ive kicked off a couple mirrors and kicked dents in some fenders when #######s do that ####. Cali its legal to split lanes but you always come across ##### that do it. People here dont get that some are use to being allowed to do it. Either way us going ahead of you really doesnt apprehend you at all in your travels"

I'm at a loss for what word he was even trying to use.

 

[glock]

Justice

Even more justice

Wow...

Whoa...

 

[T Bell]

Facebook comments on the LIE bust:

"I love blocking the hole when they ride between lanes in slow moving traffic on the highway. They get so pissed. lol. They are lucky, the next guy might try to hit them instead. I might have saved a life."

"i love kicking off the mirrors of people who try to block me in thats even better! then laugh when theyre stuck in traffic and i ride away. think again before you block someone in next time,,,when your driving home with a shattered mirror maybe youll think to yourself "i shouldve just minded my own business"

"people think theyre so tough now that the media is making us look like bad guys...you wanna be a #### and block me in while im minding my own business passing through bumper to bumper traffic not hurting anoyone? fine with me enjoy the nice bill from the body shop"

"Ive kicked off a couple mirrors and kicked dents in some fenders when #######s do that ####. Cali its legal to split lanes but you always come across ##### that do it. People here dont get that some are use to being allowed to do it. Either way us going ahead of you really doesnt apprehend you at all in your travels"

I'm at a loss for what word he was even trying to use.

"inconvenience", I guess.

 

[glock]

Facebook comments on the LIE bust:

"I love blocking the hole when they ride between lanes in slow moving traffic on the highway. They get so pissed. lol. They are lucky, the next guy might try to hit them instead. I might have saved a life."

"i love kicking off the mirrors of people who try to block me in thats even better! then laugh when theyre stuck in traffic and i ride away. think again before you block someone in next time,,,when your driving home with a shattered mirror maybe youll think to yourself "i shouldve just minded my own business"

"people think theyre so tough now that the media is making us look like bad guys...you wanna be a #### and block me in while im minding my own business passing through bumper to bumper traffic not hurting anoyone? fine with me enjoy the nice bill from the body shop"

"Ive kicked off a couple mirrors and kicked dents in some fenders when #######s do that ####. Cali its legal to split lanes but you always come across ##### that do it. People here dont get that some are use to being allowed to do it. Either way us going ahead of you really doesnt apprehend you at all in your travels"

I'm at a loss for what word he was even trying to use.

:whoosh:

 

[poopdawg]

Facebook comments on the LIE bust:

"I love blocking the hole when they ride between lanes in slow moving traffic on the highway. They get so pissed. lol. They are lucky, the next guy might try to hit them instead. I might have saved a life."

"i love kicking off the mirrors of people who try to block me in thats even better! then laugh when theyre stuck in traffic and i ride away. think again before you block someone in next time,,,when your driving home with a shattered mirror maybe youll think to yourself "i shouldve just minded my own business"

"people think theyre so tough now that the media is making us look like bad guys...you wanna be a #### and block me in while im minding my own business passing through bumper to bumper traffic not hurting anoyone? fine with me enjoy the nice bill from the body shop"

"Ive kicked off a couple mirrors and kicked dents in some fenders when #######s do that ####. Cali its legal to split lanes but you always come across ##### that do it. People here dont get that some are use to being allowed to do it. Either way us going ahead of you really doesnt apprehend you at all in your travels"

I'm at a loss for what word he was even trying to use.

Impede?

 

[Fat Nick]

Whatever it is, I just don't understand how anyone can think that it's OK to smash someone's mirror or kick in a door panel for any reason. Just because you're on a bike and can get away doesn't make you above the law.

 

[Billy Bats]

Justice

Even more justice

Wow...

Whoa...

That's awesome. Even better, the military policeman just got back in his car and drive away.

 

[jhib]

Justice

Even more justice

Well I guess that's why none of those other guys stopped at any red lights. They were just scared that some other ##### on a bike would try to steal theirs.

 

[jason12vb]

Whatever it is, I just don't understand how anyone can think that it's OK to smash someone's mirror or kick in a door panel for any reason. Just because you're on a bike and can get away doesn't make you above the law.

Completely agree with you...but on the other side, there are a lot of people out there who either falsely think they are enforcing the law, or are just flat out being a-holes by using their cars to block someone from following traffic laws.

Getting pretty tired of people that don't know the laws up here in MN regarding merging when lanes are closed (zipper merge). Half the time in these situations some road raged guy that doesn't know the law pulls 3/4 of the way into an open lane 3/4 of a mile before a merge....meanwhile traffic is backed up a mile behind him and blocking an exit exacerbating the problem.

Road rage, stupidity, arrogance, and not paying attention are being met with road rage and it seems to be a viscous cycle that's spiraling out of control.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Whatever it is, I just don't understand how anyone can think that it's OK to smash someone's mirror or kick in a door panel for any reason. Just because you're on a bike and can get away doesn't make you above the law.

Completely agree with you...but on the other side, there are a lot of people out there who either falsely think they are enforcing the law, or are just flat out being a-holes by using their cars to block someone from following traffic laws.

Getting pretty tired of people that don't know the laws up here in MN regarding merging when lanes are closed (zipper merge). Half the time in these situations some road raged guy that doesn't know the law pulls 3/4 of the way into an open lane 3/4 of a mile before a merge....meanwhile traffic is backed up a mile behind him and blocking an exit exacerbating the problem.

Road rage, stupidity, arrogance, and not paying attention are being met with road rage and it seems to be a viscous cycle that's spiraling out of control.

link? I'd like to see that law.

 

[Fat Nick]

Whatever it is, I just don't understand how anyone can think that it's OK to smash someone's mirror or kick in a door panel for any reason. Just because you're on a bike and can get away doesn't make you above the law.

Completely agree with you...but on the other side, there are a lot of people out there who either falsely think they are enforcing the law, or are just flat out being a-holes by using their cars to block someone from following traffic laws.

Getting pretty tired of people that don't know the laws up here in MN regarding merging when lanes are closed (zipper merge). Half the time in these situations some road raged guy that doesn't know the law pulls 3/4 of the way into an open lane 3/4 of a mile before a merge....meanwhile traffic is backed up a mile behind him and blocking an exit exacerbating the problem.

Road rage, stupidity, arrogance, and not paying attention are being met with road rage and it seems to be a viscous cycle that's spiraling out of control.

link? I'd like to see that law.

I've never seen the law specifically, but to me, that's common sense. If people spent less time trying to drive aggressively, and more time just zipper merging, these kinds of things wouldn't cause the issues that they do. Use the available lanes until those lanes end. There's no need to merge when you see the sign that says "Merge Ahead." That's why it says "ahead" and not "now." The issue is really caused by people who merge over too soon, then get mad when people go up to the end to merge. That lane is available, and it's free for anyone to use until the merge.

@Jason12vb, I've never understood the pulling into the open lane thing either. Either pull out there and take advantage of the open lane, or don't. I'll admit I've done it to people riding down the shoulder in really heavy traffic, but that's a bit different as it's not an open active lane. Truthfully, in most cases, I'm the one using the open lane and merging at the end though.

It does amaze me the number of times I get honked at or get nasty looks from people when they're the ones driving incorrectly/irresponsibly. Of course I live in NJ, so maybe that's just par for the area.

 

[jhib]

Whatever it is, I just don't understand how anyone can think that it's OK to smash someone's mirror or kick in a door panel for any reason. Just because you're on a bike and can get away doesn't make you above the law.

Completely agree with you...but on the other side, there are a lot of people out there who either falsely think they are enforcing the law, or are just flat out being a-holes by using their cars to block someone from following traffic laws.

Getting pretty tired of people that don't know the laws up here in MN regarding merging when lanes are closed (zipper merge). Half the time in these situations some road raged guy that doesn't know the law pulls 3/4 of the way into an open lane 3/4 of a mile before a merge....meanwhile traffic is backed up a mile behind him and blocking an exit exacerbating the problem.

Road rage, stupidity, arrogance, and not paying attention are being met with road rage and it seems to be a viscous cycle that's spiraling out of control.

link? I'd like to see that law.

I've never seen the law specifically, but to me, that's common sense. If people spent less time trying to drive aggressively, and more time just zipper merging, these kinds of things wouldn't cause the issues that they do. Use the available lanes until those lanes end. There's no need to merge when you see the sign that says "Merge Ahead." That's why it says "ahead" and not "now." The issue is really caused by people who merge over too soon, then get mad when people go up to the end to merge. That lane is available, and it's free for anyone to use until the merge.

@Jason12vb, I've never understood the pulling into the open lane thing either. Either pull out there and take advantage of the open lane, or don't. I'll admit I've done it to people riding down the shoulder in really heavy traffic, but that's a bit different as it's not an open active lane. Truthfully, in most cases, I'm the one using the open lane and merging at the end though.

It does amaze me the number of times I get honked at or get nasty looks from people when they're the ones driving incorrectly/irresponsibly. Of course I live in NJ, so maybe that's just par for the area.

http://www.dot.state.mn.us/zippermerge/

I don't know if it's actually a law that you have to zipper merge, but would imagine it's against the law to block an open lane in order to keep someone else from doing so.

I really wish more states (especially NY) would put up the signs telling drivers to use all open lanes until the merge. It would really make things work better and make everyone feel better about it.

 

[Sinn Fein]

When the sign says "Left Lane Closed, Merge Right" The drivers in the left lane have the obligation to merge safely into the right lane. The drivers in the right lane, have no obligation to let them over. If you wait to the end, you are at the mercy of those drivers in the open lane. If I think you passed up safe opportunities to merge, I'm not letting you in.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Benefits

• Reduces differences in speeds between two lanes
• Reduces the overall length of traffic backup by as much as 40 percent
• Reduces congestion on freeway interchanges
• Creates a sense of fairness and equity that all lanes are moving at the same rate

 

[glock]

Whatever it is, I just don't understand how anyone can think that it's OK to smash someone's mirror or kick in a door panel for any reason. Just because you're on a bike and can get away doesn't make you above the law.

Completely agree with you...but on the other side, there are a lot of people out there who either falsely think they are enforcing the law, or are just flat out being a-holes by using their cars to block someone from following traffic laws.

Getting pretty tired of people that don't know the laws up here in MN regarding merging when lanes are closed (zipper merge). Half the time in these situations some road raged guy that doesn't know the law pulls 3/4 of the way into an open lane 3/4 of a mile before a merge....meanwhile traffic is backed up a mile behind him and blocking an exit exacerbating the problem.

Road rage, stupidity, arrogance, and not paying attention are being met with road rage and it seems to be a viscous cycle that's spiraling out of control.

link? I'd like to see that law.

I've never seen the law specifically, but to me, that's common sense. If people spent less time trying to drive aggressively, and more time just zipper merging, these kinds of things wouldn't cause the issues that they do. Use the available lanes until those lanes end. There's no need to merge when you see the sign that says "Merge Ahead." That's why it says "ahead" and not "now." The issue is really caused by people who merge over too soon, then get mad when people go up to the end to merge. That lane is available, and it's free for anyone to use until the merge.

@Jason12vb, I've never understood the pulling into the open lane thing either. Either pull out there and take advantage of the open lane, or don't. I'll admit I've done it to people riding down the shoulder in really heavy traffic, but that's a bit different as it's not an open active lane. Truthfully, in most cases, I'm the one using the open lane and merging at the end though.

It does amaze me the number of times I get honked at or get nasty looks from people when they're the ones driving incorrectly/irresponsibly. Of course I live in NJ, so maybe that's just par for the area.

More often than not it's those screaming by on the right in order to go to the very last cone that exacerbate the backup. I have seen tractor trailer drivers on I-80 block that merge lane driving at the speed of those who already merged and it is very effective at creating a much smoother merge. I think you have it wrong.

Oh, and NJ explains a lot.

 

[Foosball God]

Whatever it is, I just don't understand how anyone can think that it's OK to smash someone's mirror or kick in a door panel for any reason. Just because you're on a bike and can get away doesn't make you above the law.

Completely agree with you...but on the other side, there are a lot of people out there who either falsely think they are enforcing the law, or are just flat out being a-holes by using their cars to block someone from following traffic laws.

Getting pretty tired of people that don't know the laws up here in MN regarding merging when lanes are closed (zipper merge). Half the time in these situations some road raged guy that doesn't know the law pulls 3/4 of the way into an open lane 3/4 of a mile before a merge....meanwhile traffic is backed up a mile behind him and blocking an exit exacerbating the problem.

Road rage, stupidity, arrogance, and not paying attention are being met with road rage and it seems to be a viscous cycle that's spiraling out of control.

link? I'd like to see that law.

I've never seen the law specifically, but to me, that's common sense. If people spent less time trying to drive aggressively, and more time just zipper merging, these kinds of things wouldn't cause the issues that they do. Use the available lanes until those lanes end. There's no need to merge when you see the sign that says "Merge Ahead." That's why it says "ahead" and not "now." The issue is really caused by people who merge over too soon, then get mad when people go up to the end to merge. That lane is available, and it's free for anyone to use until the merge.

@Jason12vb, I've never understood the pulling into the open lane thing either. Either pull out there and take advantage of the open lane, or don't. I'll admit I've done it to people riding down the shoulder in really heavy traffic, but that's a bit different as it's not an open active lane. Truthfully, in most cases, I'm the one using the open lane and merging at the end though.

It does amaze me the number of times I get honked at or get nasty looks from people when they're the ones driving incorrectly/irresponsibly. Of course I live in NJ, so maybe that's just par for the area.

More often than not it's those screaming by on the right in order to go to the very last cone that exacerbate the backup. I have seen tractor trailer drivers on I-80 block that merge lane driving at the speed of those who already merged and it is very effective at creating a much smoother merge. I think you have it wrong.

Oh, and NJ explains a lot.

Actually you are proving his point. The merge point is doing effectively the same thing that the tractor trailer is doing in your scenario.

 

[glock]

Whatever it is, I just don't understand how anyone can think that it's OK to smash someone's mirror or kick in a door panel for any reason. Just because you're on a bike and can get away doesn't make you above the law.

Completely agree with you...but on the other side, there are a lot of people out there who either falsely think they are enforcing the law, or are just flat out being a-holes by using their cars to block someone from following traffic laws.

Getting pretty tired of people that don't know the laws up here in MN regarding merging when lanes are closed (zipper merge). Half the time in these situations some road raged guy that doesn't know the law pulls 3/4 of the way into an open lane 3/4 of a mile before a merge....meanwhile traffic is backed up a mile behind him and blocking an exit exacerbating the problem.

Road rage, stupidity, arrogance, and not paying attention are being met with road rage and it seems to be a viscous cycle that's spiraling out of control.

link? I'd like to see that law.

I've never seen the law specifically, but to me, that's common sense. If people spent less time trying to drive aggressively, and more time just zipper merging, these kinds of things wouldn't cause the issues that they do. Use the available lanes until those lanes end. There's no need to merge when you see the sign that says "Merge Ahead." That's why it says "ahead" and not "now." The issue is really caused by people who merge over too soon, then get mad when people go up to the end to merge. That lane is available, and it's free for anyone to use until the merge.

@Jason12vb, I've never understood the pulling into the open lane thing either. Either pull out there and take advantage of the open lane, or don't. I'll admit I've done it to people riding down the shoulder in really heavy traffic, but that's a bit different as it's not an open active lane. Truthfully, in most cases, I'm the one using the open lane and merging at the end though.

It does amaze me the number of times I get honked at or get nasty looks from people when they're the ones driving incorrectly/irresponsibly. Of course I live in NJ, so maybe that's just par for the area.

http://www.dot.state.mn.us/zippermerge/

I don't know if it's actually a law that you have to zipper merge, but would imagine it's against the law to block an open lane in order to keep someone else from doing so.

I really wish more states (especially NY) would put up the signs telling drivers to use all open lanes until the merge. It would really make things work better and make everyone feel better about it.

If everyone waited until the last cone to merge traffic would totally bog down. Merging actually take an ounce or two of teamwork. Are you one of the jackalopes who also race past everyone in line for a single lane exit, muscling your way in as the diagonal white lines and guardrail approaches? Nicely played...

 

[avoiding injuries]

Whatever it is, I just don't understand how anyone can think that it's OK to smash someone's mirror or kick in a door panel for any reason. Just because you're on a bike and can get away doesn't make you above the law.

Completely agree with you...but on the other side, there are a lot of people out there who either falsely think they are enforcing the law, or are just flat out being a-holes by using their cars to block someone from following traffic laws.

Getting pretty tired of people that don't know the laws up here in MN regarding merging when lanes are closed (zipper merge). Half the time in these situations some road raged guy that doesn't know the law pulls 3/4 of the way into an open lane 3/4 of a mile before a merge....meanwhile traffic is backed up a mile behind him and blocking an exit exacerbating the problem.

Road rage, stupidity, arrogance, and not paying attention are being met with road rage and it seems to be a viscous cycle that's spiraling out of control.

link? I'd like to see that law.

I've never seen the law specifically, but to me, that's common sense. If people spent less time trying to drive aggressively, and more time just zipper merging, these kinds of things wouldn't cause the issues that they do. Use the available lanes until those lanes end. There's no need to merge when you see the sign that says "Merge Ahead." That's why it says "ahead" and not "now." The issue is really caused by people who merge over too soon, then get mad when people go up to the end to merge. That lane is available, and it's free for anyone to use until the merge.

@Jason12vb, I've never understood the pulling into the open lane thing either. Either pull out there and take advantage of the open lane, or don't. I'll admit I've done it to people riding down the shoulder in really heavy traffic, but that's a bit different as it's not an open active lane. Truthfully, in most cases, I'm the one using the open lane and merging at the end though.

It does amaze me the number of times I get honked at or get nasty looks from people when they're the ones driving incorrectly/irresponsibly. Of course I live in NJ, so maybe that's just par for the area.

More often than not it's those screaming by on the right in order to go to the very last cone that exacerbate the backup. I have seen tractor trailer drivers on I-80 block that merge lane driving at the speed of those who already merged and it is very effective at creating a much smoother merge. I think you have it wrong.

Oh, and NJ explains a lot.

Actually you are proving his point. The merge point is doing effectively the same thing that the tractor trailer is doing in your scenario.

Except the merge point is stationary.

 

[glock]

Whatever it is, I just don't understand how anyone can think that it's OK to smash someone's mirror or kick in a door panel for any reason. Just because you're on a bike and can get away doesn't make you above the law.

Completely agree with you...but on the other side, there are a lot of people out there who either falsely think they are enforcing the law, or are just flat out being a-holes by using their cars to block someone from following traffic laws.

Getting pretty tired of people that don't know the laws up here in MN regarding merging when lanes are closed (zipper merge). Half the time in these situations some road raged guy that doesn't know the law pulls 3/4 of the way into an open lane 3/4 of a mile before a merge....meanwhile traffic is backed up a mile behind him and blocking an exit exacerbating the problem.

Road rage, stupidity, arrogance, and not paying attention are being met with road rage and it seems to be a viscous cycle that's spiraling out of control.

link? I'd like to see that law.

I've never seen the law specifically, but to me, that's common sense. If people spent less time trying to drive aggressively, and more time just zipper merging, these kinds of things wouldn't cause the issues that they do. Use the available lanes until those lanes end. There's no need to merge when you see the sign that says "Merge Ahead." That's why it says "ahead" and not "now." The issue is really caused by people who merge over too soon, then get mad when people go up to the end to merge. That lane is available, and it's free for anyone to use until the merge.

@Jason12vb, I've never understood the pulling into the open lane thing either. Either pull out there and take advantage of the open lane, or don't. I'll admit I've done it to people riding down the shoulder in really heavy traffic, but that's a bit different as it's not an open active lane. Truthfully, in most cases, I'm the one using the open lane and merging at the end though.

It does amaze me the number of times I get honked at or get nasty looks from people when they're the ones driving incorrectly/irresponsibly. Of course I live in NJ, so maybe that's just par for the area.

More often than not it's those screaming by on the right in order to go to the very last cone that exacerbate the backup. I have seen tractor trailer drivers on I-80 block that merge lane driving at the speed of those who already merged and it is very effective at creating a much smoother merge. I think you have it wrong.

Oh, and NJ explains a lot.

Actually you are proving his point. The merge point is doing effectively the same thing that the tractor trailer is doing in your scenario.

No- the tractor trailer is preventing those that the world revolves around from blowing past everyone in order to get in at the very last possible second- causing brake-age- from doing so, rather than attempting a smooth transition into a single lane.

 

[jhib]

Whatever it is, I just don't understand how anyone can think that it's OK to smash someone's mirror or kick in a door panel for any reason. Just because you're on a bike and can get away doesn't make you above the law.

Completely agree with you...but on the other side, there are a lot of people out there who either falsely think they are enforcing the law, or are just flat out being a-holes by using their cars to block someone from following traffic laws.

Getting pretty tired of people that don't know the laws up here in MN regarding merging when lanes are closed (zipper merge). Half the time in these situations some road raged guy that doesn't know the law pulls 3/4 of the way into an open lane 3/4 of a mile before a merge....meanwhile traffic is backed up a mile behind him and blocking an exit exacerbating the problem.

Road rage, stupidity, arrogance, and not paying attention are being met with road rage and it seems to be a viscous cycle that's spiraling out of control.

link? I'd like to see that law.

I've never seen the law specifically, but to me, that's common sense. If people spent less time trying to drive aggressively, and more time just zipper merging, these kinds of things wouldn't cause the issues that they do. Use the available lanes until those lanes end. There's no need to merge when you see the sign that says "Merge Ahead." That's why it says "ahead" and not "now." The issue is really caused by people who merge over too soon, then get mad when people go up to the end to merge. That lane is available, and it's free for anyone to use until the merge.

@Jason12vb, I've never understood the pulling into the open lane thing either. Either pull out there and take advantage of the open lane, or don't. I'll admit I've done it to people riding down the shoulder in really heavy traffic, but that's a bit different as it's not an open active lane. Truthfully, in most cases, I'm the one using the open lane and merging at the end though.

It does amaze me the number of times I get honked at or get nasty looks from people when they're the ones driving incorrectly/irresponsibly. Of course I live in NJ, so maybe that's just par for the area.

http://www.dot.state.mn.us/zippermerge/

I don't know if it's actually a law that you have to zipper merge, but would imagine it's against the law to block an open lane in order to keep someone else from doing so.

I really wish more states (especially NY) would put up the signs telling drivers to use all open lanes until the merge. It would really make things work better and make everyone feel better about it.

If everyone waited until the last cone to merge traffic would totally bog down. Merging actually take an ounce or two of teamwork. Are you one of the jackalopes who also race past everyone in line for a single lane exit, muscling your way in as the diagonal white lines and guardrail approaches? Nicely played...

No, it actually wouldn't. If everyone used both lanes until the merge, there would be the same flow of vehicles through the work area, but there would be less of a backup, more equitable amount of time each car waits, and it would be safer.

I thought like you did until I read Traffic: Why We Drive the Way We Do (and What It Says About Us).

At the very least, read through that MN link above if you haven't already.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

You self made traffic cops are the ##### that cause traffic issues and road rage.

 

[TheIronSheik]

You self made traffic cops are the ##### that cause traffic issues and road rage.

 

[Jobber]

Whatever it is, I just don't understand how anyone can think that it's OK to smash someone's mirror or kick in a door panel for any reason. Just because you're on a bike and can get away doesn't make you above the law.

Completely agree with you...but on the other side, there are a lot of people out there who either falsely think they are enforcing the law, or are just flat out being a-holes by using their cars to block someone from following traffic laws.

Getting pretty tired of people that don't know the laws up here in MN regarding merging when lanes are closed (zipper merge). Half the time in these situations some road raged guy that doesn't know the law pulls 3/4 of the way into an open lane 3/4 of a mile before a merge....meanwhile traffic is backed up a mile behind him and blocking an exit exacerbating the problem.

Road rage, stupidity, arrogance, and not paying attention are being met with road rage and it seems to be a viscous cycle that's spiraling out of control.

Good posting. Minnesota even has billboards here and there telling people to zipper merge AT THE MERGE POINT. Hell, I think I even once saw a commercial for it too.

 

[Arizona Ron]

Justice

Even more justice

I'm sorry, I don't agree with someone getting killed for trying to steel a bike.

 

[TheIronSheik]

Justice

Even more justice

I'm sorry, I don't agree with someone getting killed for trying to steel a bike.

How about cheering a quarterback spraining his ankle?

 

[Arizona Ron]

Justice

Even more justice

I'm sorry, I don't agree with someone getting killed for trying to steel a bike.

How about cheering a quarterback spraining his ankle?

Poor form

 

[glock]

Justice

Even more justice

I'm sorry, I don't agree with someone getting killed for trying to steel a bike.

How about cheering a quarterback spraining his ankle?

ONLY if his backup is an improvement.

 

[jhib]

Justice

Even more justice

I'm sorry, I don't agree with someone getting killed for trying to steel a bike.

He wasn't shot because he was trying to steal a bike (was he even killed at all?). He was shot because he pointed his gun at the officer when the officer attempted to stop him.

 

[Arizona Ron]

Justice

Even more justice

I'm sorry, I don't agree with someone getting killed for trying to steel a bike.

He wasn't shot because he was trying to steal a bike (was he even killed at all?). He was shot because he pointed his gun at the officer when the officer attempted to stop him.

I can't tell from the video but I'll take your word for it.

 

[SacramentoBob]

I always drive to the end and merge or look for a semi to merge in front of later down the road. Much easier for me that way. Sorry you decided to merge 3 miles back and think I have to be punished.

 

[Rayderr]

Whatever it is, I just don't understand how anyone can think that it's OK to smash someone's mirror or kick in a door panel for any reason. Just because you're on a bike and can get away doesn't make you above the law.

Completely agree with you...but on the other side, there are a lot of people out there who either falsely think they are enforcing the law, or are just flat out being a-holes by using their cars to block someone from following traffic laws.

Getting pretty tired of people that don't know the laws up here in MN regarding merging when lanes are closed (zipper merge). Half the time in these situations some road raged guy that doesn't know the law pulls 3/4 of the way into an open lane 3/4 of a mile before a merge....meanwhile traffic is backed up a mile behind him and blocking an exit exacerbating the problem.

Road rage, stupidity, arrogance, and not paying attention are being met with road rage and it seems to be a viscous cycle that's spiraling out of control.

link? I'd like to see that law.

I've never seen the law specifically, but to me, that's common sense. If people spent less time trying to drive aggressively, and more time just zipper merging, these kinds of things wouldn't cause the issues that they do. Use the available lanes until those lanes end. There's no need to merge when you see the sign that says "Merge Ahead." That's why it says "ahead" and not "now." The issue is really caused by people who merge over too soon, then get mad when people go up to the end to merge. That lane is available, and it's free for anyone to use until the merge.

@Jason12vb, I've never understood the pulling into the open lane thing either. Either pull out there and take advantage of the open lane, or don't. I'll admit I've done it to people riding down the shoulder in really heavy traffic, but that's a bit different as it's not an open active lane. Truthfully, in most cases, I'm the one using the open lane and merging at the end though.

It does amaze me the number of times I get honked at or get nasty looks from people when they're the ones driving incorrectly/irresponsibly. Of course I live in NJ, so maybe that's just par for the area.

http://www.dot.state.mn.us/zippermerge/

I don't know if it's actually a law that you have to zipper merge, but would imagine it's against the law to block an open lane in order to keep someone else from doing so.

I really wish more states (especially NY) would put up the signs telling drivers to use all open lanes until the merge. It would really make things work better and make everyone feel better about it.

If everyone waited until the last cone to merge traffic would totally bog down. Merging actually take an ounce or two of teamwork. Are you one of the jackalopes who also race past everyone in line for a single lane exit, muscling your way in as the diagonal white lines and guardrail approaches? Nicely played...

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