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There are stands of trees that are more than 10,000 years old based on their tree rings.There are ice cores that are over a hundred thousand years old based on their annual layering.
are you sure the patterns there go on the same forever?Are you sure the ice cores layering is the same pattern always? ARe you sure there is really a pattern? I mean... really...
 
You choose not to accept religion, fine.  I choose to accept it, after about 15 years spent denying it and then coming to the conclusion that it HAD to be true.
Interesting take, since I went the opposite way. I spent about 10 years trying to force myself to believe that Christianty is the real deal, before coming to the conclusion that it HAD to be false.No intention to ridicule or demand any proof here. I'm just sort of curious what triggers a person to reach your conclusion.
In my case I was force fed religion for 18 years and got tired of it because I never saw any results. It felt like I was just being subjugated to some evil parental plan of how to bore me for an hour evey Sunday. My faith began to come back after having our first child and realizing the enormity of what that involved. Still I partied pretty hard and blew off faith again. When I was 28, my wife decided enough was enough and she was going to leave me. It was at that point that I blindly placed my faith in God. I felt at ease with the decision and eventuallystarted studying more about the bible and various systems of belief. Now I consider myself a non-denominational Christian with evangelical tendencies (by that I mean i have traveled to Russia a few times to spread the gospel and deliver aid). It is mainly the change in my character that makes me so sure of what I believe. I am no saint now, but boy was I a mess 10 years ago.
So you didn't like religion when your parents forced you into it. But you had no problems aquiescing at the hands of your wife? Sounds like you married your mom, Oedipus.Ultimatums and marriage don't go well together.
 
You choose not to accept religion, fine.  I choose to accept it, after about 15 years spent denying it and then coming to the conclusion that it HAD to be true.
Interesting take, since I went the opposite way. I spent about 10 years trying to force myself to believe that Christianty is the real deal, before coming to the conclusion that it HAD to be false.No intention to ridicule or demand any proof here. I'm just sort of curious what triggers a person to reach your conclusion.
In my case I was force fed religion for 18 years and got tired of it because I never saw any results. It felt like I was just being subjugated to some evil parental plan of how to bore me for an hour evey Sunday. My faith began to come back after having our first child and realizing the enormity of what that involved. Still I partied pretty hard and blew off faith again. When I was 28, my wife decided enough was enough and she was going to leave me. It was at that point that I blindly placed my faith in God. I felt at ease with the decision and eventuallystarted studying more about the bible and various systems of belief. Now I consider myself a non-denominational Christian with evangelical tendencies (by that I mean i have traveled to Russia a few times to spread the gospel and deliver aid). It is mainly the change in my character that makes me so sure of what I believe. I am no saint now, but boy was I a mess 10 years ago.
So you didn't like religion when your parents forced you into it. But you had no problems aquiescing at the hands of your wife? Sounds like you married your mom, Oedipus.Ultimatums and marriage don't go well together.
Go back to eating poop. Do you have problems with reading comprehension, Freud, Jr?My wife was not religious in any manner, so how did I acquiesce?There was no ultimatum given, she had had enough. I chose to self-examine and realized something was missing from my life.Maybe you have been eating some bad poop.
 
There was no ultimatum given, she had had enough. I chose to self-examine and realized something was missing from my life.
Translation: He stopped going to hookers.
Hardly. But how about we don't talk about my personal life and I agree not to bring up your homo-erotic past, mmmkay?
 
i also believe in the hallucinogenic powers of ganja, the right for man to shoot fuzzy little varmints with high powered rifles, and not cheating on your wife. so i'm a slutty kerry voter/psychopath with principles.

 
i also believe in the hallucinogenic powers of ganja, the right for man to shoot fuzzy little varmints with high powered rifles, and not cheating on your wife. so i'm a slutty kerry voter/psychopath with principles.
slutty kerry voting pothead/psychopath with principles
 
You choose not to accept religion, fine.  I choose to accept it, after about 15 years spent denying it and then coming to the conclusion that it HAD to be true.
Interesting take, since I went the opposite way. I spent about 10 years trying to force myself to believe that Christianty is the real deal, before coming to the conclusion that it HAD to be false.No intention to ridicule or demand any proof here. I'm just sort of curious what triggers a person to reach your conclusion.
In my case I was force fed religion for 18 years and got tired of it because I never saw any results. It felt like I was just being subjugated to some evil parental plan of how to bore me for an hour evey Sunday. My faith began to come back after having our first child and realizing the enormity of what that involved. Still I partied pretty hard and blew off faith again. When I was 28, my wife decided enough was enough and she was going to leave me. It was at that point that I blindly placed my faith in God. I felt at ease with the decision and eventuallystarted studying more about the bible and various systems of belief. Now I consider myself a non-denominational Christian with evangelical tendencies (by that I mean i have traveled to Russia a few times to spread the gospel and deliver aid). It is mainly the change in my character that makes me so sure of what I believe. I am no saint now, but boy was I a mess 10 years ago.
So you didn't like religion when your parents forced you into it. But you had no problems aquiescing at the hands of your wife? Sounds like you married your mom, Oedipus.Ultimatums and marriage don't go well together.
Go back to eating poop. Do you have problems with reading comprehension, Freud, Jr?My wife was not religious in any manner, so how did I acquiesce?There was no ultimatum given, she had had enough. I chose to self-examine and realized something was missing from my life.Maybe you have been eating some bad poop.
aren't you supposed to turn the other cheek or something, jesus?you said your wife was going to leave you.
When I was 28, my wife decided enough was enough and she was going to leave me. It was at that point that I blindly placed my faith in God.
But she didn't because you turned your life over to god. I'm only guessing that since she didn't leave you, an ultimatum was issued. Shape up, or I'm out.But it's good to see your religious teachings on display here.
 
There was no ultimatum given, she had had enough.  I chose to self-examine and realized something was missing from my life.
Translation: He stopped going to hookers.
Hardly. But how about we don't talk about my personal life and I agree not to bring up your homo-erotic past, mmmkay?
HEY! you're supposed to be teaching the gospel of jesus. this kind of behavior isn't very jesus like, mister!
 
You choose not to accept religion, fine.  I choose to accept it, after about 15 years spent denying it and then coming to the conclusion that it HAD to be true.
Interesting take, since I went the opposite way. I spent about 10 years trying to force myself to believe that Christianty is the real deal, before coming to the conclusion that it HAD to be false.No intention to ridicule or demand any proof here. I'm just sort of curious what triggers a person to reach your conclusion.
In my case I was force fed religion for 18 years and got tired of it because I never saw any results. It felt like I was just being subjugated to some evil parental plan of how to bore me for an hour evey Sunday. My faith began to come back after having our first child and realizing the enormity of what that involved. Still I partied pretty hard and blew off faith again. When I was 28, my wife decided enough was enough and she was going to leave me. It was at that point that I blindly placed my faith in God. I felt at ease with the decision and eventuallystarted studying more about the bible and various systems of belief. Now I consider myself a non-denominational Christian with evangelical tendencies (by that I mean i have traveled to Russia a few times to spread the gospel and deliver aid). It is mainly the change in my character that makes me so sure of what I believe. I am no saint now, but boy was I a mess 10 years ago.
So you didn't like religion when your parents forced you into it. But you had no problems aquiescing at the hands of your wife? Sounds like you married your mom, Oedipus.Ultimatums and marriage don't go well together.
Go back to eating poop. Do you have problems with reading comprehension, Freud, Jr?My wife was not religious in any manner, so how did I acquiesce?There was no ultimatum given, she had had enough. I chose to self-examine and realized something was missing from my life.Maybe you have been eating some bad poop.
aren't you supposed to turn the other cheek or something, jesus?you said your wife was going to leave you.
When I was 28, my wife decided enough was enough and she was going to leave me.  It was at that point that I blindly placed my faith in God.
But she didn't because you turned your life over to god. I'm only guessing that since she didn't leave you, an ultimatum was issued. Shape up, or I'm out.But it's good to see your religious teachings on display here.
Dude, I have not tried to convert anyone here, so your petty insinuations will play nicely for your little buddies but fall flat in context.Strange, how I knew the conversation would devolve into this. When in doubt, act like a 3-year old. I congratulate you on your ability to play the 3 year old. I could make some pithy comment about your beliefs, but it appears that I am the only one embroiled in this conversation that has the cajones to share my conviction. At least have the sack to believe in something.
 
HEY! you're supposed to be teaching the gospel of jesus. this kind of behavior isn't very jesus like, mister!
"Jesus died for somebody's sins, but not mine."Patti Smith - Gloria
 
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You choose not to accept religion, fine.  I choose to accept it, after about 15 years spent denying it and then coming to the conclusion that it HAD to be true.
Interesting take, since I went the opposite way. I spent about 10 years trying to force myself to believe that Christianty is the real deal, before coming to the conclusion that it HAD to be false.No intention to ridicule or demand any proof here. I'm just sort of curious what triggers a person to reach your conclusion.
In my case I was force fed religion for 18 years and got tired of it because I never saw any results. It felt like I was just being subjugated to some evil parental plan of how to bore me for an hour evey Sunday. My faith began to come back after having our first child and realizing the enormity of what that involved. Still I partied pretty hard and blew off faith again. When I was 28, my wife decided enough was enough and she was going to leave me. It was at that point that I blindly placed my faith in God. I felt at ease with the decision and eventuallystarted studying more about the bible and various systems of belief. Now I consider myself a non-denominational Christian with evangelical tendencies (by that I mean i have traveled to Russia a few times to spread the gospel and deliver aid). It is mainly the change in my character that makes me so sure of what I believe. I am no saint now, but boy was I a mess 10 years ago.
So you didn't like religion when your parents forced you into it. But you had no problems aquiescing at the hands of your wife? Sounds like you married your mom, Oedipus.Ultimatums and marriage don't go well together.
Go back to eating poop. Do you have problems with reading comprehension, Freud, Jr?My wife was not religious in any manner, so how did I acquiesce?There was no ultimatum given, she had had enough. I chose to self-examine and realized something was missing from my life.Maybe you have been eating some bad poop.
aren't you supposed to turn the other cheek or something, jesus?you said your wife was going to leave you.
When I was 28, my wife decided enough was enough and she was going to leave me.  It was at that point that I blindly placed my faith in God.
But she didn't because you turned your life over to god. I'm only guessing that since she didn't leave you, an ultimatum was issued. Shape up, or I'm out.But it's good to see your religious teachings on display here.
are you being a little harsh big feller?hell my wife threatened to leave me and that's why I quit doing drugs and drinking.some things are more important than being a #### off.
 
are you being a little harsh big feller?hell my wife threatened to leave me and that's why I quit doing drugs and drinking.some things are more important than being a #### off.
maybe you made the wrong call...just a thought...
 
I could make some pithy comment about your beliefs, but it appears that I am the only one embroiled in this conversation that has the cajones to share my conviction. At least have the sack to believe in something.
Oh, somewhere a church bell just went off sending Cross Eyed, Gold Dragon, Lombardi, and RODM into action mode. I'm bigfun54 and I respect everyone on the board by the way.
 
I could make some pithy comment about your beliefs, but it appears that I am the only one embroiled in this conversation that has the cajones to share my conviction. At least have the sack to believe in something.
I believe in not pissing off my wife to the point that she would threaten to leave me. But that's neither here nor there.
 
You choose not to accept religion, fine.  I choose to accept it, after about 15 years spent denying it and then coming to the conclusion that it HAD to be true.
Interesting take, since I went the opposite way. I spent about 10 years trying to force myself to believe that Christianty is the real deal, before coming to the conclusion that it HAD to be false.No intention to ridicule or demand any proof here. I'm just sort of curious what triggers a person to reach your conclusion.
In my case I was force fed religion for 18 years and got tired of it because I never saw any results. It felt like I was just being subjugated to some evil parental plan of how to bore me for an hour evey Sunday. My faith began to come back after having our first child and realizing the enormity of what that involved. Still I partied pretty hard and blew off faith again. When I was 28, my wife decided enough was enough and she was going to leave me. It was at that point that I blindly placed my faith in God. I felt at ease with the decision and eventuallystarted studying more about the bible and various systems of belief. Now I consider myself a non-denominational Christian with evangelical tendencies (by that I mean i have traveled to Russia a few times to spread the gospel and deliver aid). It is mainly the change in my character that makes me so sure of what I believe. I am no saint now, but boy was I a mess 10 years ago.
So you didn't like religion when your parents forced you into it. But you had no problems aquiescing at the hands of your wife? Sounds like you married your mom, Oedipus.Ultimatums and marriage don't go well together.
Go back to eating poop. Do you have problems with reading comprehension, Freud, Jr?My wife was not religious in any manner, so how did I acquiesce?There was no ultimatum given, she had had enough. I chose to self-examine and realized something was missing from my life.Maybe you have been eating some bad poop.
aren't you supposed to turn the other cheek or something, jesus?you said your wife was going to leave you.
When I was 28, my wife decided enough was enough and she was going to leave me.  It was at that point that I blindly placed my faith in God.
But she didn't because you turned your life over to god. I'm only guessing that since she didn't leave you, an ultimatum was issued. Shape up, or I'm out.But it's good to see your religious teachings on display here.
Dude, I have not tried to convert anyone here, so your petty insinuations will play nicely for your little buddies but fall flat in context.Strange, how I knew the conversation would devolve into this. When in doubt, act like a 3-year old. I congratulate you on your ability to play the 3 year old. I could make some pithy comment about your beliefs, but it appears that I am the only one embroiled in this conversation that has the cajones to share my conviction. At least have the sack to believe in something.
Oh I believe in a lot of things. First of all, I believe your nothing but a spineless phony. I may not choose to believe in christianity, but it doesn't mean I don't know what its teachings are. You, sir, are doing a poor job of demonstrating the teachings of christ by your condescending tone and use of the written word as a physical slap.I just wondered why when your parents forced you to go to church you resented it. Now, you relish in it. However, the circumstances of you finding god are one and the same - you were forced into it. But I've seen enough here today to know that your beliefs are a front. I think if your wife never threatened to leave you, you'd still be on the sidelines. as it is, you seem to practice this religion when it suits you.Trading verbal insults isn't very christ like and you know it.
 
He was the original Mr. Know-It-All, I had to grab the moniker after his passing.
Yes, but he used science to back up his knowitall-edness. You seem to be taking a different approach altogether.
 
are you being a little harsh big feller?hell my wife threatened to leave me and that's why I quit doing drugs and drinking.some things are more important than being a #### off.
maybe you made the wrong call...just a thought...
no. My life is 10 times better now than then. I have two beautiful daughters, make more scratch than I ever dreamed of, and have a great wife. Considering I come from a family of alcoholics and drug addicts, quitting was the best option by far. If I had kept going, I'd probably be in jail, out a job, out a wife and kids and broke.
 
Ahh, incorrect, I am fat and hairy, and I am your friend!Think Wind in His Hair at the end of Dances with Wolves.

 
You choose not to accept religion, fine.  I choose to accept it, after about 15 years spent denying it and then coming to the conclusion that it HAD to be true.
Interesting take, since I went the opposite way. I spent about 10 years trying to force myself to believe that Christianty is the real deal, before coming to the conclusion that it HAD to be false.No intention to ridicule or demand any proof here. I'm just sort of curious what triggers a person to reach your conclusion.
In my case I was force fed religion for 18 years and got tired of it because I never saw any results. It felt like I was just being subjugated to some evil parental plan of how to bore me for an hour evey Sunday. My faith began to come back after having our first child and realizing the enormity of what that involved. Still I partied pretty hard and blew off faith again. When I was 28, my wife decided enough was enough and she was going to leave me. It was at that point that I blindly placed my faith in God. I felt at ease with the decision and eventuallystarted studying more about the bible and various systems of belief. Now I consider myself a non-denominational Christian with evangelical tendencies (by that I mean i have traveled to Russia a few times to spread the gospel and deliver aid). It is mainly the change in my character that makes me so sure of what I believe. I am no saint now, but boy was I a mess 10 years ago.
So you didn't like religion when your parents forced you into it. But you had no problems aquiescing at the hands of your wife? Sounds like you married your mom, Oedipus.Ultimatums and marriage don't go well together.
Go back to eating poop. Do you have problems with reading comprehension, Freud, Jr?My wife was not religious in any manner, so how did I acquiesce?There was no ultimatum given, she had had enough. I chose to self-examine and realized something was missing from my life.Maybe you have been eating some bad poop.
aren't you supposed to turn the other cheek or something, jesus?you said your wife was going to leave you.
When I was 28, my wife decided enough was enough and she was going to leave me.  It was at that point that I blindly placed my faith in God.
But she didn't because you turned your life over to god. I'm only guessing that since she didn't leave you, an ultimatum was issued. Shape up, or I'm out.But it's good to see your religious teachings on display here.
are you being a little harsh big feller?hell my wife threatened to leave me and that's why I quit doing drugs and drinking.some things are more important than being a #### off.
Not everybody loses control, Tommy. Not everybody needs religion to gain control of their lives, either.
 
Trading verbal insults isn't very christ like and you know it.
On the contrary, Christ was very verbal in the Christ-Douglas debates of 1853.
actually if you read the bible, Christ was laying the smack down at an early age. He pissed a lot of people off.
 
You choose not to accept religion, fine.  I choose to accept it, after about 15 years spent denying it and then coming to the conclusion that it HAD to be true.
Interesting take, since I went the opposite way. I spent about 10 years trying to force myself to believe that Christianty is the real deal, before coming to the conclusion that it HAD to be false.No intention to ridicule or demand any proof here. I'm just sort of curious what triggers a person to reach your conclusion.
In my case I was force fed religion for 18 years and got tired of it because I never saw any results. It felt like I was just being subjugated to some evil parental plan of how to bore me for an hour evey Sunday. My faith began to come back after having our first child and realizing the enormity of what that involved. Still I partied pretty hard and blew off faith again. When I was 28, my wife decided enough was enough and she was going to leave me. It was at that point that I blindly placed my faith in God. I felt at ease with the decision and eventuallystarted studying more about the bible and various systems of belief. Now I consider myself a non-denominational Christian with evangelical tendencies (by that I mean i have traveled to Russia a few times to spread the gospel and deliver aid). It is mainly the change in my character that makes me so sure of what I believe. I am no saint now, but boy was I a mess 10 years ago.
So you didn't like religion when your parents forced you into it. But you had no problems aquiescing at the hands of your wife? Sounds like you married your mom, Oedipus.Ultimatums and marriage don't go well together.
Go back to eating poop. Do you have problems with reading comprehension, Freud, Jr?My wife was not religious in any manner, so how did I acquiesce?There was no ultimatum given, she had had enough. I chose to self-examine and realized something was missing from my life.Maybe you have been eating some bad poop.
aren't you supposed to turn the other cheek or something, jesus?you said your wife was going to leave you.
When I was 28, my wife decided enough was enough and she was going to leave me.  It was at that point that I blindly placed my faith in God.
But she didn't because you turned your life over to god. I'm only guessing that since she didn't leave you, an ultimatum was issued. Shape up, or I'm out.But it's good to see your religious teachings on display here.
Dude, I have not tried to convert anyone here, so your petty insinuations will play nicely for your little buddies but fall flat in context.Strange, how I knew the conversation would devolve into this. When in doubt, act like a 3-year old. I congratulate you on your ability to play the 3 year old. I could make some pithy comment about your beliefs, but it appears that I am the only one embroiled in this conversation that has the cajones to share my conviction. At least have the sack to believe in something.
Oh I believe in a lot of things. First of all, I believe your nothing but a spineless phony. I may not choose to believe in christianity, but it doesn't mean I don't know what its teachings are. You, sir, are doing a poor job of demonstrating the teachings of christ by your condescending tone and use of the written word as a physical slap.I just wondered why when your parents forced you to go to church you resented it. Now, you relish in it. However, the circumstances of you finding god are one and the same - you were forced into it. But I've seen enough here today to know that your beliefs are a front. I think if your wife never threatened to leave you, you'd still be on the sidelines. as it is, you seem to practice this religion when it suits you.Trading verbal insults isn't very christ like and you know it.
You are wrong, GM. I am far from spineless. You see Christians get this rap that they are supposed to be weak and submissive. Far from it. When I am faced by your sarcasm and personal attacks, I don't have to take them. I never claimed to be Jesus, heck I have even freely admitted to being a new Christian. You, on the other hand, appear to be quite experienced at being an ### - so I am at quite the disadvantage here.As for condescending tone, take a look at most of the posts directed at Christians on this board. Many tend to discredit that there was ever a Christ, but then apply his teaching in an evaluation of those that defend it. Frankly, engaging in a running word battle with you serves no purpose. You can say my religion is a front, I can say you are a buffoon.
 
are wolves and dogs different species? I say, no...do you say yes?
They are not the same species because they cannot be bred together.
Dogs and wolves are members of the same species, and can interbreed.
Here's a cool experiment. I bet that wolves and chihuahuas can't (or wouldn't) interbreed in the wild. So here's what you do: kill off every single breed of dog except chihuahuas, leave the wolves alone so that gene flow is impossible, and see where evolution takes 'em. If they can't interbreed, then presto! Instant, man made speciation in a large mammal. Pretty neat, huh?
speciation is when they lose the ABILITY to breed, not when they don't want to breed... HUGE difference there...
shining path understands the difference, and his experiment would work as he said.If chihuahuas and wolves don't interbreed, their evolutionary paths will diverge, and they will become genetically different enough that they'll be unable to interbreed even if they wanted to.It'll probably happen anyway, eventually, but getting rid of all the in-between breeds of dogs would speed up the process substantially.
 

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