Creepier Belief system (2 Viewers)

[MelvinTScupper]

some guys get wound up easy

 

[larry_boy_44]

Ever wonder why he chose such a biblical screen name?

I did? I can think of three things that inspired my name and none of them are Biblical.

I always think of the wrestler... lolam I remotely right on one of the influences? }=O)

 

[Jericho]

For the most part.  I tried to hide it but my screen name gives me away.

Albert is rolling in his grave over your avatar selection, too.

He was the original Mr. Know-It-All, I had to grab the moniker after his passing.

Difference is, Einstein was willing to admit when he's wrong.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

You choose not to accept religion, fine.  I choose to accept it, after about 15 years spent denying it and then coming to the conclusion that it HAD to be true.

Interesting take, since I went the opposite way. I spent about 10 years trying to force myself to believe that Christianty is the real deal, before coming to the conclusion that it HAD to be false.No intention to ridicule or demand any proof here. I'm just sort of curious what triggers a person to reach your conclusion.

In my case I was force fed religion for 18 years and got tired of it because I never saw any results. It felt like I was just being subjugated to some evil parental plan of how to bore me for an hour evey Sunday. My faith began to come back after having our first child and realizing the enormity of what that involved. Still I partied pretty hard and blew off faith again. When I was 28, my wife decided enough was enough and she was going to leave me. It was at that point that I blindly placed my faith in God. I felt at ease with the decision and eventuallystarted studying more about the bible and various systems of belief. Now I consider myself a non-denominational Christian with evangelical tendencies (by that I mean i have traveled to Russia a few times to spread the gospel and deliver aid). It is mainly the change in my character that makes me so sure of what I believe. I am no saint now, but boy was I a mess 10 years ago.

So you didn't like religion when your parents forced you into it. But you had no problems aquiescing at the hands of your wife? Sounds like you married your mom, Oedipus.Ultimatums and marriage don't go well together.

Go back to eating poop. Do you have problems with reading comprehension, Freud, Jr?My wife was not religious in any manner, so how did I acquiesce?There was no ultimatum given, she had had enough. I chose to self-examine and realized something was missing from my life.Maybe you have been eating some bad poop.

aren't you supposed to turn the other cheek or something, jesus?you said your wife was going to leave you.

When I was 28, my wife decided enough was enough and she was going to leave me.  It was at that point that I blindly placed my faith in God.

But she didn't because you turned your life over to god. I'm only guessing that since she didn't leave you, an ultimatum was issued. Shape up, or I'm out.But it's good to see your religious teachings on display here.

are you being a little harsh big feller?hell my wife threatened to leave me and that's why I quit doing drugs and drinking.some things are more important than being a #### off.

Not everybody loses control, Tommy. Not everybody needs religion to gain control of their lives, either.

Once again, you over generalize, but I have come to expect that out of you. Many people do need religion to regain control of their lives, many do it out of a need to worship, but you imply that it is simply a crutch. Yet, I am the one who condescends. Please....

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

For the most part.  I tried to hide it but my screen name gives me away.

Albert is rolling in his grave over your avatar selection, too.

He was the original Mr. Know-It-All, I had to grab the moniker after his passing.

Difference is, Einstein was willing to admit when he's wrong.

I'll admit I am wrong when I know I am wrong. This religion thing is a bit hard to prove either way, so I'll reserve the right to call shenanighans on myself at a later date.

 

[tommyboy]

Not everybody loses control, Tommy. Not everybody needs religion to gain control of their lives, either.

i agree, but for the people that do lose control, such as myself, whether it is your wife or finding religion or whatever (a moment of clarity perhaps), regaining control and ending up happy is a good thing no matter how it occurs. I'm not particularly religious, though I do believe in God, but I'm glad my wife had the spine to confront my behavior. Not only was I dealing pounds of weed out of our house, I was either at a bar or sitting on the couch stoned 80% of the time, and endangering peoples lives whenever I got behind the wheel of a car. Quite frankly I'm lucky I never killed someone or got a DUII, or ended up in a federal prison for distribution.regardless, i applaud anyone that faces their issues and personal demons and makes changes for the better.

 

[General Malaise]

You are wrong, GM. I am far from spineless. You see Christians get this rap that they are supposed to be weak and submissive. Far from it. When I am faced by your sarcasm and personal attacks, I don't have to take them. I never claimed to be Jesus, heck I have even freely admitted to being a new Christian. You, on the other hand, appear to be quite experienced at being an ### - so I am at quite the disadvantage here.As for condescending tone, take a look at most of the posts directed at Christians on this board. Many tend to discredit that there was ever a Christ, but then apply his teaching in an evaluation of those that defend it. Frankly, engaging in a running word battle with you serves no purpose. You can say my religion is a front, I can say you are a buffoon.

So you just apply the teachings of christianity to your life that you like? Turn the other cheek not one of them?What is a new christian? Is it like New Coke?I don't discredit that there was a man called Jesus. I just don't believe he was the son of god. A lot of people have claimed that, btw. We just call them crazy. Not sure how or why he made the cut.I may be a buffoon, but I've never had my wife threaten to leave me if I didn't turn to god.IMO, a man faced with problems relies on himself to fix them. Self reliance is far more important than faith. At least in my book, which has more cursewords and better sex stories than the bible.

 

[tommyboy]

I may be a buffoon, but I've never had my wife threaten to leave me if I didn't turn to god.

from what I read, that never happened. I got the impression he just did it on his own and his wife isn't religious.

 

[General Malaise]

Not everybody loses control, Tommy. Not everybody needs religion to gain control of their lives, either.

Once again, you over generalize, but I have come to expect that out of you. Many people do need religion to regain control of their lives, many do it out of a need to worship, but you imply that it is simply a crutch. Yet, I am the one who condescends. Please....

lol @ you....

When I say "Not Everybody" that means "Some People".....that's the opposite of generlizing, no?

 

[General Malaise]

I may be a buffoon, but I've never had my wife threaten to leave me if I didn't turn to god.

from what I read, that never happened. I got the impression he just did it on his own and his wife isn't religious.

fixed?

 

[cocoagirl]

You are wrong, GM. I am far from spineless. You see Christians get this rap that they are supposed to be weak and submissive. Far from it. When I am faced by your sarcasm and personal attacks, I don't have to take them. I never claimed to be Jesus, heck I have even freely admitted to being a new Christian. You, on the other hand, appear to be quite experienced at being an ### - so I am at quite the disadvantage here.As for condescending tone, take a look at most of the posts directed at Christians on this board. Many tend to discredit that there was ever a Christ, but then apply his teaching in an evaluation of those that defend it. Frankly, engaging in a running word battle with you serves no purpose. You can say my religion is a front, I can say you are a buffoon.

So you just apply the teachings of christianity to your life that you like? Turn the other cheek not one of them?What is a new christian? Is it like New Coke?I don't discredit that there was a man called Jesus. I just don't believe he was the son of god. A lot of people have claimed that, btw. We just call them crazy. Not sure how or why he made the cut.I may be a buffoon, but I've never had my wife threaten to leave me if I didn't turn to god.IMO, a man faced with problems relies on himself to fix them. Self reliance is far more important than faith. At least in my book, which has more cursewords and better sex stories than the bible.

GM Jesus made the cut because he resurrected from the dead. Christians are not perfect. Look at the apostle Peter. He sliced a guys ear off. Christians old and new are known to fall from time to time.

 

[General Malaise]

GM Jesus made the cut because he resurrected from the dead.

allegedly....

 

[tommyboy]

I may be a buffoon, but I've never had my wife threaten to leave me if I didn't turn to god.

from what I read, that never happened. I got the impression he just did it on his own and his wife isn't religious.

fixed?

missed that part, good call.your question is spot on then. Obviously he valued he marriage more.

 

[cocoagirl]

GM Jesus made the cut because he resurrected from the dead. 

allegedly....

Right. I'm just not aware of any other self proclaimed prophets who have died and come back from the dead, reappearing before witnesses. "Allegedly"

 

[General Malaise]

I may be a buffoon, but I've never had my wife threaten to leave me if I didn't turn to god.

from what I read, that never happened. I got the impression he just did it on his own and his wife isn't religious.

fixed?

missed that part, good call.your question is spot on then. Obviously he valued he marriage more.

agreed. very noble on his part.he needs to be more careful throwing insults around, however. Especially considering the fact that his buffoonery nearly got him divorced.

my buffoonery is the garden variety type that most people here tend to laugh at.

I've had my own problems in life. more than anybody here will ever know. I never needed a god to fix them. and tommy, I too make damn good money, have two incredible kids, a wonderful wife, a large network of friends (even Bubba loves me) and a life I wouldn't trade in for the world.

To each their own. I just want christians to walk the walk. this guy is nothing more than a hypocrite, IMO.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

You are wrong, GM. I am far from spineless. You see Christians get this rap that they are supposed to be weak and submissive. Far from it. When I am faced by your sarcasm and personal attacks, I don't have to take them. I never claimed to be Jesus, heck I have even freely admitted to being a new Christian. You, on the other hand, appear to be quite experienced at being an ### - so I am at quite the disadvantage here.As for condescending tone, take a look at most of the posts directed at Christians on this board. Many tend to discredit that there was ever a Christ, but then apply his teaching in an evaluation of those that defend it. Frankly, engaging in a running word battle with you serves no purpose. You can say my religion is a front, I can say you are a buffoon.

So you just apply the teachings of christianity to your life that you like? Turn the other cheek not one of them?What is a new christian? Is it like New Coke?I don't discredit that there was a man called Jesus. I just don't believe he was the son of god. A lot of people have claimed that, btw. We just call them crazy. Not sure how or why he made the cut.I may be a buffoon, but I've never had my wife threaten to leave me if I didn't turn to god.IMO, a man faced with problems relies on himself to fix them. Self reliance is far more important than faith. At least in my book, which has more cursewords and better sex stories than the bible.

First, I have repeatedly turned the cheek, and simply grew tired of the same lame lines being tossed about that are present in practically every religion thread.Second, new Christian means just that, I am far from perfect and have a ways to go, particularly in the areas of dealing with people that tick me off.Third, you obviously can't read, my wife never threatened to leave me if I didn't turn to God. She left because of my drinking, partying, etc.I, too believe in self-reliance and am more of a self-made man than you would ever know. Being the first to graduate from college from an otherwise trade oriented family, getting both academic as well as athletic scholarships, serving in the US military, etc. It is nice to know that someone such as yourself has never needed any help in their life. I applaud that.That said, best I can tell I can't work my way to Heaven, so no amount of self-reliance is going to get me there. This does not apply to you because you do not believe in that concept, so it is useless to debate self-reliance in this area.

 

[bigfun54]

Right. I'm just not aware of any other self proclaimed prophets who have died and come back from the dead, reappearing before witnesses. "Allegedly"

Actually cocoa, it's not that original of an idea, and I agree about Gold Dragon, he's good people. Proposed Life-death-rebirth deities

Aboriginal mythology: Julunggul, Wawalag

Akkadian mythology : Tammuz, Ishtar

Aztec mythology: Xipe, Totec

Celtic mythology: Cernunnos

Christian mythology: Jesus Christ

Egyptian mythology: Isis, Osiris

Etruscan mythology: Atunis

Greek mythology: Adonis, Cronus, Cybele, Dionysus, Orpheus, Persephone

Hindu mythology: Vishnu, Siva

Khoikhoi mythology: Heitsi

Norse mythology: Baldur, Gullveig

Persian mythology: Mithras

Phrygian mythology: Attis

Roman mythology: Aeneas, Bacchus, Proserpina

Sumerian mythology: Damuzi, Inanna

 

[cocoagirl]

To each their own. I just want christians to walk the walk. this guy is nothing more than a hypocrite, IMO.

We try. But we often fail. We're human beings after all. From what I have witnessed on the board non believers love to entice Christians into behaving badly. Many Christians fall for it, like myself. Gold Dragon is one of the only Christians on this board who can respond to any post with dignity and intelligence. It's easier to be a non Christian. No standards to adhere to. No one is looking at you through a microscope wanting you to fall.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

I may be a buffoon, but I've never had my wife threaten to leave me if I didn't turn to god.

from what I read, that never happened. I got the impression he just did it on his own and his wife isn't religious.

fixed?

missed that part, good call.your question is spot on then. Obviously he valued he marriage more.

agreed. very noble on his part.he needs to be more careful throwing insults around, however. Especially considering the fact that his buffoonery nearly got him divorced.

my buffoonery is the garden variety type that most people here tend to laugh at.

I've had my own problems in life. more than anybody here will ever know. I never needed a god to fix them. and tommy, I too make damn good money, have two incredible kids, a wonderful wife, a large network of friends (even Bubba loves me) and a life I wouldn't trade in for the world.

To each their own. I just want christians to walk the walk. this guy is nothing more than a hypocrite, IMO.

I am a hypocrite? Nice. Hypocrisy would involve me holding you to a standard and my living by a different standard. What standard have I held you to?I freely admit that I have work to do to meet the standard God has set for me...so how am I a hypocrite again?

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

It's easier to be a non Christian. No standards to adhere to.

That's ridiculous. Just because someone isn't a Christian doesn't mean they don't have standards.I suppose you believe that all non-Christians are lawless, morally bankrupt, lost souls living empty lives.If you've read any of GM's threads you'd know that wasn't the case.

 

[cocoagirl]

It's easier to be a non Christian.  No standards to adhere to.

That's ridiculous. Just because someone isn't a Christian doesn't mean they don't have standards.I suppose you believe that all non-Christians are lawless, morally bankrupt, lost souls living empty lives.If you've read any of GM's threads you'd know that wasn't the case.

I'm not saying you don't have the basic common sense standards. Such as thou shall not kill or steal. I'm just saying non believers don't fall under as much scrutiny as Christians. (On this board)

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

Any scrutiny that Christians fall under is coming from other Christians. The rest of us don't give a #### what you do.

 

[Bubba]

It's easier to be a non Christian. No standards to adhere to.

That's ridiculous. Just because someone isn't a Christian doesn't mean they don't have standards.I suppose you believe that all non-Christians are lawless, morally bankrupt, lost souls living empty lives.If you've read any of GM's threads you'd know that wasn't the case.

No, it's true...I regularly kick squirrels, eat baby meat, pass gas in elevators and throw twinkies at fat people.I NEED GUIDANCE...somebody get me a bible.

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

Well, now that you've added (on this board), I stand corrected. Carry on.

 

[General Malaise]

I may be a buffoon, but I've never had my wife threaten to leave me if I didn't turn to god.

from what I read, that never happened. I got the impression he just did it on his own and his wife isn't religious.

fixed?

missed that part, good call.your question is spot on then. Obviously he valued he marriage more.

agreed. very noble on his part.he needs to be more careful throwing insults around, however. Especially considering the fact that his buffoonery nearly got him divorced.

my buffoonery is the garden variety type that most people here tend to laugh at.

I've had my own problems in life. more than anybody here will ever know. I never needed a god to fix them. and tommy, I too make damn good money, have two incredible kids, a wonderful wife, a large network of friends (even Bubba loves me) and a life I wouldn't trade in for the world.

To each their own. I just want christians to walk the walk. this guy is nothing more than a hypocrite, IMO.

I am a hypocrite? Nice. Hypocrisy would involve me holding you to a standard and my living by a different standard. What standard have I held you to?I freely admit that I have work to do to meet the standard God has set for me...so how am I a hypocrite again?

Yes. Because you espouse the virtues of spreading the gospel of Christ, yet you want to judge me and trade insults. What gospel did christ teach that?

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

It's easier to be a non Christian. No standards to adhere to.

That's ridiculous. Just because someone isn't a Christian doesn't mean they don't have standards.I suppose you believe that all non-Christians are lawless, morally bankrupt, lost souls living empty lives.If you've read any of GM's threads you'd know that wasn't the case.

Different set of standards. It is very easy for a non-rligious person to bait a religious person and then declare hypocrisy. This cannot be done in the same sense to folks of a non-religious nature. Your inference that she meant all non-religious people were immoral, lawless, etc. just goes to show you how impossible it is to achieve even footing in these types of conversations. You know darn well what she meant, but you took it to a ridiculous conclusion.

 

[Statorama]

If you're a Christian, you still get to eat Bacon. And that's good eatin!

 

[cocoagirl]

Any scrutiny that Christians fall under is coming from other Christians. The rest of us don't give a #### what you do.

I guess you're right. When a Christian results to name calling he or she is a hypocrite.When a non christian does it, he's a baffoon. That sounds about square. Good ol' FFA.

 

[Bubba]

If you're a Christian, you still get to eat Bacon. And that's good eatin!

mmm mmmm...bacon-wrapped catfish filets...

 

[shining path]

Are you actually saying you need proof that the earth is older than 10,000 years?  Or that evolution isn't real so how can anything be a "blink of an eye" in terms of something that is false?  If you want proof of the age of the earth, go read some scince books.  Or better yet, take some scientific instruments out into the field and do some studies and tell me how many results back up the 10,000 year age.

See, I have a real problem with this.You cannot be 100% sure that all of this scientific dating is accurate. There is no documentation that proves the carbon dating system to be correct. It is impossible for anyone to ever know whether they are even close to be correct with their dating system. Therefore, the earth could very easily be 10,000 years old. All that you have to prove otherwise is a "theory" made by men that have no real proof that anything exists over a few thousand years old.

Wow, with an attitude like that, it's amazing you take gravity for granted. After all, it's just another theory based on observation and scientific rigor.And carbon dating isn't some made-up discipline. It's a pretty realiable measurement tool, by scientific standards.

Read up:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase...ear/cardat.html

no dating can be accurate past like 5 or 6 thousand years ago...Dating can only be done to the earliest piece of anythign that is dated by historical figures... AKA - they dated it or gave us some sort of timing with it...

dating, whatever the method, is completely useless if the thing is thought to be older than the oldest FOR SURE dated artifact...

This is because we don't know if the pattern held any further than where it was, we don't know if some disaster happened that changed the amount of carbon (or whatever else) is in the item or anything like that...

WE have no clue how something more than, at most, 10,000 years old is, it is 100% impossible to know...

In other words, any method of dating things older than the the age of the world as calculated by christian fundamentalists is unreliable. Got it.

 

[General Malaise]

Any scrutiny that Christians fall under is coming from other Christians. The rest of us don't give a #### what you do.

I guess you're right. When a Christian results to name calling he or she is a hypocrite.When a non christian does it, he's a baffoon. That sounds about square.

I'm a buffoon for many more reasons than this and you know it.

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

You know darn well what she meant, but you took it to a ridiculous conclusion.

No I didn't. She specifically said that non-Christians had no standards to adhere to. She didn't say "different standards to adhere to."The only thing that was ridiculous was her statement.

 

[Bubba]

Are you actually saying you need proof that the earth is older than 10,000 years?  Or that evolution isn't real so how can anything be a "blink of an eye" in terms of something that is false?  If you want proof of the age of the earth, go read some scince books.  Or better yet, take some scientific instruments out into the field and do some studies and tell me how many results back up the 10,000 year age.

See, I have a real problem with this.You cannot be 100% sure that all of this scientific dating is accurate. There is no documentation that proves the carbon dating system to be correct. It is impossible for anyone to ever know whether they are even close to be correct with their dating system. Therefore, the earth could very easily be 10,000 years old. All that you have to prove otherwise is a "theory" made by men that have no real proof that anything exists over a few thousand years old.

Wow, with an attitude like that, it's amazing you take gravity for granted. After all, it's just another theory based on observation and scientific rigor.And carbon dating isn't some made-up discipline. It's a pretty realiable measurement tool, by scientific standards.

Read up:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase...ear/cardat.html

no dating can be accurate past like 5 or 6 thousand years ago...Dating can only be done to the earliest piece of anythign that is dated by historical figures... AKA - they dated it or gave us some sort of timing with it...

dating, whatever the method, is completely useless if the thing is thought to be older than the oldest FOR SURE dated artifact...

This is because we don't know if the pattern held any further than where it was, we don't know if some disaster happened that changed the amount of carbon (or whatever else) is in the item or anything like that...

WE have no clue how something more than, at most, 10,000 years old is, it is 100% impossible to know...

In other words, any method of dating things older than the the age of the world as calculated by christian fundamentalists is unreliable. Got it.

larry_boy checked it out rigorously in his basement lab...

 

[cocoagirl]

Any scrutiny that Christians fall under is coming from other Christians. The rest of us don't give a #### what you do.

I guess you're right. When a Christian results to name calling he or she is a hypocrite.When a non christian does it, he's a baffoon. That sounds about square.

I'm a buffoon for many more reasons than this and you know it.

Yes, saftey pinning your pants from the outside for example.... Did you ever get around to sewing on a button?

 

[General Malaise]

It's easier to be a non Christian. No standards to adhere to.

That's ridiculous. Just because someone isn't a Christian doesn't mean they don't have standards.I suppose you believe that all non-Christians are lawless, morally bankrupt, lost souls living empty lives.If you've read any of GM's threads you'd know that wasn't the case.

i'm only not lawless because i fear prison and my wife.also, i'm morally bankrupt.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

I may be a buffoon, but I've never had my wife threaten to leave me if I didn't turn to god.

from what I read, that never happened. I got the impression he just did it on his own and his wife isn't religious.

fixed?

missed that part, good call.your question is spot on then. Obviously he valued he marriage more.

agreed. very noble on his part.he needs to be more careful throwing insults around, however. Especially considering the fact that his buffoonery nearly got him divorced.

my buffoonery is the garden variety type that most people here tend to laugh at.

I've had my own problems in life. more than anybody here will ever know. I never needed a god to fix them. and tommy, I too make damn good money, have two incredible kids, a wonderful wife, a large network of friends (even Bubba loves me) and a life I wouldn't trade in for the world.

To each their own. I just want christians to walk the walk. this guy is nothing more than a hypocrite, IMO.

I am a hypocrite? Nice. Hypocrisy would involve me holding you to a standard and my living by a different standard. What standard have I held you to?I freely admit that I have work to do to meet the standard God has set for me...so how am I a hypocrite again?

Yes. Because you espouse the virtues of spreading the gospel of Christ, yet you want to judge me and trade insults. What gospel did christ teach that?

Hmmmm....where did I judge you????My trading insults with you has nothing to do with my religion, although I admit I would be a better witness if I didn't carry around some of the attitude I had before I began to appreciate God's presence more in my life.

The thing is, I have yet to judge anyone...yet you have presupposed that I have done this. Typical ploy, but not applicable.

BTW, this would be a lot more fun in person, because I don't look like a typical Christian either. You would not stereo-type me as the Ned Flanders type.

 

[shining path]

It's easier to be a non Christian.  No standards to adhere to.

That's ridiculous. Just because someone isn't a Christian doesn't mean they don't have standards.I suppose you believe that all non-Christians are lawless, morally bankrupt, lost souls living empty lives.If you've read any of GM's threads you'd know that wasn't the case.

i'm only not lawless because i fear prison and my wife.also, i'm morally bankrupt.

And you called me sweetie. Your soul is truly an abyss of perversion.

 

[General Malaise]

Any scrutiny that Christians fall under is coming from other Christians. The rest of us don't give a #### what you do.

I guess you're right. When a Christian results to name calling he or she is a hypocrite.When a non christian does it, he's a baffoon. That sounds about square.

I'm a buffoon for many more reasons than this and you know it.

Yes, saftey pinning your pants from the outside for example.... Did you ever get around to sewing on a button?

my wife did it for me.

 

[cocoagirl]

You know darn well what she meant, but you took it to a ridiculous conclusion.

No I didn't. She specifically said that non-Christians had no standards to adhere to. She didn't say "different standards to adhere to."The only thing that was ridiculous was her statement.

You're right. I didn't mean to make it sound as if people who are non-christians have no standards. I don't believe that at in the least.

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

When a Christian results to name calling he or she is a hypocrite.When a non christian does it, he's a baffoon. That sounds about square. Good ol' FFA.

No, you're both buffoons. And I don't mean "you're" as in you or he specifically.

 

[cocoagirl]

Yes, saftey pinning your pants from the outside for example.... Did you ever get around to sewing on a button?

my wife did it for me.

Ya see. She really does love you.

 

[cocoagirl]

When a Christian results to name calling he or she is a hypocrite.When a non christian does it, he's a baffoon. That sounds about square. Good ol' FFA.

No, you're both buffoons.

Nice

 

[General Malaise]

I may be a buffoon, but I've never had my wife threaten to leave me if I didn't turn to god.

from what I read, that never happened. I got the impression he just did it on his own and his wife isn't religious.

fixed?

missed that part, good call.your question is spot on then. Obviously he valued he marriage more.

agreed. very noble on his part.he needs to be more careful throwing insults around, however. Especially considering the fact that his buffoonery nearly got him divorced.

my buffoonery is the garden variety type that most people here tend to laugh at.

I've had my own problems in life. more than anybody here will ever know. I never needed a god to fix them. and tommy, I too make damn good money, have two incredible kids, a wonderful wife, a large network of friends (even Bubba loves me) and a life I wouldn't trade in for the world.

To each their own. I just want christians to walk the walk. this guy is nothing more than a hypocrite, IMO.

I am a hypocrite? Nice. Hypocrisy would involve me holding you to a standard and my living by a different standard. What standard have I held you to?I freely admit that I have work to do to meet the standard God has set for me...so how am I a hypocrite again?

Yes. Because you espouse the virtues of spreading the gospel of Christ, yet you want to judge me and trade insults. What gospel did christ teach that?

Hmmmm....where did I judge you????My trading insults with you has nothing to do with my religion, although I admit I would be a better witness if I didn't carry around some of the attitude I had before I began to appreciate God's presence more in my life.

The thing is, I have yet to judge anyone...yet you have presupposed that I have done this. Typical ploy, but not applicable.

BTW, this would be a lot more fun in person, because I don't look like a typical Christian either. You would not stereo-type me as the Ned Flanders type.

Let's recap...You said I was proficient at being an ####.

You called me a buffoon.

You said poop was clouding my ability to read.

Are these not judgements?

Christ taught about forgiveness, and unconditional love and treating your neighbors as you yourself would like to be treated.

To Ferris - your point isn't lost on me. I know what's meek and what's weak. Christ taught about turning the other cheek. I find that much stronger than retailating. In fact, I say it is the weak man that retaliates. Weakness is influenced by others.

I don't think christ turned the other cheak out of meekness (meaning gentle temperment) nor do I think it was a sign of weakness. I think it was a teaching of great strength.

The quick trigger to respond with insults and barbs don't lead me to believe that the teachings of christ are being digested, Ned.

 

[General Malaise]

When a Christian results to name calling he or she is a hypocrite.When a non christian does it, he's a baffoon.  That sounds about square. Good ol' FFA.

No, you're both buffoons.

Nice

not really. she just doesn't have the patience for my whining like this board.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

I may be a buffoon, but I've never had my wife threaten to leave me if I didn't turn to god.

from what I read, that never happened. I got the impression he just did it on his own and his wife isn't religious.

fixed?

missed that part, good call.your question is spot on then. Obviously he valued he marriage more.

agreed. very noble on his part.he needs to be more careful throwing insults around, however. Especially considering the fact that his buffoonery nearly got him divorced.

my buffoonery is the garden variety type that most people here tend to laugh at.

I've had my own problems in life. more than anybody here will ever know. I never needed a god to fix them. and tommy, I too make damn good money, have two incredible kids, a wonderful wife, a large network of friends (even Bubba loves me) and a life I wouldn't trade in for the world.

To each their own. I just want christians to walk the walk. this guy is nothing more than a hypocrite, IMO.

I am a hypocrite? Nice. Hypocrisy would involve me holding you to a standard and my living by a different standard. What standard have I held you to?I freely admit that I have work to do to meet the standard God has set for me...so how am I a hypocrite again?

Yes. Because you espouse the virtues of spreading the gospel of Christ, yet you want to judge me and trade insults. What gospel did christ teach that?

Hmmmm....where did I judge you????My trading insults with you has nothing to do with my religion, although I admit I would be a better witness if I didn't carry around some of the attitude I had before I began to appreciate God's presence more in my life.

The thing is, I have yet to judge anyone...yet you have presupposed that I have done this. Typical ploy, but not applicable.

BTW, this would be a lot more fun in person, because I don't look like a typical Christian either. You would not stereo-type me as the Ned Flanders type.

Let's recap...You said I was proficient at being an ####.

You called me a buffoon.

You said poop was clouding my ability to read.

Are these not judgements?

Christ taught about forgiveness, and unconditional love and treating your neighbors as you yourself would like to be treated.

To Ferris - your point isn't lost on me. I know what's meek and what's weak. Christ taught about turning the other cheek. I find that much stronger than retailating. In fact, I say it is the weak man that retaliates. Weakness is influenced by others.

I don't think christ turned the other cheak out of meekness (meaning gentle temperment) nor do I think it was a sign of weakness. I think it was a teaching of great strength.

The quick trigger to respond with insults and barbs don't lead me to believe that the teachings of christ are being digested, Ned.

Poop clouding your judgement? That was a judgement? I am sorry, it was a weak attempt at humor.As for striking back, it is the part of me that needs most work. I am extremely competitive and once I lock horns it's hard to stop.

I chose buffoon because I respect the almighty language filter...and I was trying to be as "meek" as possible.

 

[General Malaise]

I may be a buffoon, but I've never had my wife threaten to leave me if I didn't turn to god.

from what I read, that never happened. I got the impression he just did it on his own and his wife isn't religious.

fixed?

missed that part, good call.your question is spot on then. Obviously he valued he marriage more.

agreed. very noble on his part.he needs to be more careful throwing insults around, however. Especially considering the fact that his buffoonery nearly got him divorced.

my buffoonery is the garden variety type that most people here tend to laugh at.

I've had my own problems in life. more than anybody here will ever know. I never needed a god to fix them. and tommy, I too make damn good money, have two incredible kids, a wonderful wife, a large network of friends (even Bubba loves me) and a life I wouldn't trade in for the world.

To each their own. I just want christians to walk the walk. this guy is nothing more than a hypocrite, IMO.

I am a hypocrite? Nice. Hypocrisy would involve me holding you to a standard and my living by a different standard. What standard have I held you to?I freely admit that I have work to do to meet the standard God has set for me...so how am I a hypocrite again?

Yes. Because you espouse the virtues of spreading the gospel of Christ, yet you want to judge me and trade insults. What gospel did christ teach that?

Hmmmm....where did I judge you????My trading insults with you has nothing to do with my religion, although I admit I would be a better witness if I didn't carry around some of the attitude I had before I began to appreciate God's presence more in my life.

The thing is, I have yet to judge anyone...yet you have presupposed that I have done this. Typical ploy, but not applicable.

BTW, this would be a lot more fun in person, because I don't look like a typical Christian either. You would not stereo-type me as the Ned Flanders type.

Let's recap...You said I was proficient at being an ####.

You called me a buffoon.

You said poop was clouding my ability to read.

Are these not judgements?

Christ taught about forgiveness, and unconditional love and treating your neighbors as you yourself would like to be treated.

To Ferris - your point isn't lost on me. I know what's meek and what's weak. Christ taught about turning the other cheek. I find that much stronger than retailating. In fact, I say it is the weak man that retaliates. Weakness is influenced by others.

I don't think christ turned the other cheak out of meekness (meaning gentle temperment) nor do I think it was a sign of weakness. I think it was a teaching of great strength.

The quick trigger to respond with insults and barbs don't lead me to believe that the teachings of christ are being digested, Ned.

Poop clouding your judgement? That was a judgement? I am sorry, it was a weak attempt at humor.As for striking back, it is the part of me that needs most work. I am extremely competitive and once I lock horns it's hard to stop.

I chose buffoon because I respect the almighty language filter...and I was trying to be as "meek" as possible.

feel free to PM me and call me what you like. I won't mind. If it makes you feel better, I'm all for it.

 

[Jericho]

I chose buffoon because I respect the almighty language filter...

That doesn't make any sense. You choose buffoon when someplace doesn't have a language filter and you want to maintain decorum. When someplace has an almighty language filter, you can go ahead and call them a ####### ####head #######ing mother####er ####less ####-eating ####wad with impunity.Err, except that wouldn't be being excellent. Never mind.

 

[General Malaise]

I chose buffoon because I respect the almighty language filter...

That doesn't make any sense. You choose buffoon when someplace doesn't have a language filter and you want to maintain decorum. When someplace has an almighty language filter, you can go ahead and call them a ####### ####head #######ing mother####er ####less ####-eating ####wad with impunity.Err, except that wouldn't be being excellent. Never mind.

so that's what you think of me.hmph.

 

[tommyboy]

Christ taught about forgiveness, and unconditional love and treating your neighbors as you yourself would like to be treated. To Ferris - your point isn't lost on me. I know what's meek and what's weak. Christ taught about turning the other cheek. I find that much stronger than retailating. In fact, I say it is the weak man that retaliates. Weakness is influenced by others.I don't think christ turned the other cheak out of meekness (meaning gentle temperment) nor do I think it was a sign of weakness. I think it was a teaching of great strength.The quick trigger to respond with insults and barbs don't lead me to believe that the teachings of christ are being digested, Ned.

christ also said he was a divider and a killer.:watchout:

 

[scoobygang]

Wow, this thread reminds of John Stewart's line about Republicans and the "anger of the enfranchised".When I'm able to evangelize atheism door to door without being considered an #######, you can play the poor persecuted Christian card.Believe what you want. Glad it's brought purpose to your life. Whatever gives you peace is fine and dandy by me. But when you have to presuppose things like the rate of decay of carbon atoms suddenly changing with no external reason for that to happen in order to claim that your "science" is as valid as mine, well sorry. It doesn't work that way.