Cris Carters best WR's in the NFL (1 Viewer)

[LHUCKS]

I must be on an island with my Jennings is overrated mantra.

 

[T with T]

Cris Carter is a twit, and a punk and says a lot of Moronic things... Not only having Calvin Johnson behind guys like Boldin, Santonio, Miles austin and Desean, he recently said that you don't have to double team CJ to stop him. ARE YOU SERIOUS CARTER, I mean I know you hate the lions, and obviously he is filled with haterade juice as his Vikings are gonnna be last place in the division, but that is pathetic and pure stupid for a so called NFL analyst to say them things. That is like me saying that Thomas Jones is better then Jamaal Charles right now.....

 

[T with T]

Why is that off the wall? For all of Calvin's talent, the other guys put up better numbers consistently. Although I'd have him over Austin.

first of all I went back and checked C. Carters top 6 wrs on his list and looked to see how many tds these guys had their first four seasons... Not to mentioned that calvin missed 4 games in 4 years and had mediocre qb play for his whole tenure, here are the resultsonly 1 wr had more tds then Calvin in his first four years, which is fitzgeraldFitz 34Calvin 33Jennings 28wayne 23AJ 17Roddy 16I think your statement was off the wall, Bills fan

 

[jon_mx]

"Calvin Johnson is easily, hands-down, the best wide receiver I've ever seen," RB Mike Bell said."He does everything effortless," Bell continued. "He runs a reverse, he goes past people like they're in slow motion. He catches balls over people effortlessly. He runs by them effortlessly. He just makes this look so easy."

 

[T with T]

"Calvin Johnson is easily, hands-down, the best wide receiver I've ever seen," RB Mike Bell said."He does everything effortless," Bell continued. "He runs a reverse, he goes past people like they're in slow motion. He catches balls over people effortlessly. He runs by them effortlessly. He just makes this look so easy."

Looks like Jerome Harrison may not be a good player but he knows a SUPERSTUD when he sees one.

 

[Lash]

He gave his best WRs in the NFL on Mike and Mike...Andre JohnsonLarry FitzgeraldGreg JenningsReggie WayneRoddy WhiteDeSean JacksonSantonio HolmesAnquan BoldinMile AustinCalvin JohnsonAs a former WR, I assume he knows WRs, but does he have it right here? Calvin at 10, behind Santonio, DJax, and Boldin?

Was he ranking from top to bottom or just giving his top 10.Andre #1 looks like a ranking but you are right Calvin so low looks bizarre and no Vincent Jackson?

He was numbering them so yes, It just seems odd the so called experts get paid to be off the wall, lol.

Frankly, the only one above Calvin that seems completely wrong to me is Austin. They're all studs at that level and Boldin is one of the most underrated WRs around FF boards.

Austin is a better route runner and has better hands and has better YAC ability so completely wrong? is it ALL about height and speed to some of you? (and i'm a calvin dynasty owner)

 

[JuSt CuZ]

I know people are entitled to their opinion, with that being said...

How some people could look at these WRs, and ability, and think that most of them are better then Calvin is just shocking to see on a board with the cred of this one.

Also, I love hearing people talk about route running, lol, as if it matters to overall ability to produce. All any QB cares about, any one of them, is if the WR gets to the spot and catches it...last I checked Calvin has done that as well as any player in the NFL....and on one of the worst teams.

If you would really take Austin over Calvin, wow.

Djax over Calvin?

Holmes over Calvin?

Boldin over Calvin?

Jennings over Calvin?

Put them next to each other, let them play against the same defender with the same QB running the same route, and see how they stack up against the freak of nature CJ.

People claim to know football, but football people with no bias understands what type of talent CJ is, you can look at him play and see it.. And to take it a step further, if the point of football is to score, and Calvin has done that as well as one of the Best Fitzy, how can he not be as good as Roddy who has 16?

Prisoners of the moments I tell you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygAK0TZLe8o this is just last year with crappy QBs, lol

 

[Ilov80s]

He gave his best WRs in the NFL on Mike and Mike...Andre JohnsonLarry FitzgeraldGreg JenningsReggie WayneRoddy WhiteDeSean JacksonSantonio HolmesAnquan BoldinMile AustinCalvin JohnsonAs a former WR, I assume he knows WRs, but does he have it right here? Calvin at 10, behind Santonio, DJax, and Boldin?

Was he ranking from top to bottom or just giving his top 10.Andre #1 looks like a ranking but you are right Calvin so low looks bizarre and no Vincent Jackson?

He was numbering them so yes, It just seems odd the so called experts get paid to be off the wall, lol.

Frankly, the only one above Calvin that seems completely wrong to me is Austin. They're all studs at that level and Boldin is one of the most underrated WRs around FF boards.

Austin is a better route runner and has better hands and has better YAC ability so completely wrong? is it ALL about height and speed to some of you? (and i'm a calvin dynasty owner)

Does he really have better hands? I see him on the leaderboard of drops and I don't see Calvin. http://hosted.stats.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=2010&type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232

 

[geoff8695]

I love hearing people talk about route running, lol, as if it matters to overall ability to produce.

...If you would really take Austin over Calvin, wow.

Djax over Calvin?

Holmes over Calvin?

Boldin over Calvin?

Jennings over Calvin?

Ummm, yeah route running really does matter. Great route runners, ARE where they're supposed to be when the QB delivers the ball. And they are better at fooling defenders and creating separation. It most definitely enhances or can hamper their overall ability to produce.That said, I love Calvin's abilities as much as the next guy, but I have no problems with other people wanting to rank WRs differently than I do. That said, if I see someone ding Calvin, or another player, for reasons I strongly disagree with, then I will try to put together an coherent explanation for why I disagree.

I wouldn't put any of the WRs you listed over Calvin either, but I could at least make a reasonable case for each of them, with the possible exception of Holmes...

DJax has only played three seasons, and his first three seasons are very strong and compare favorably with Calvin. Although admittedly, Calvin's 4th season was a VERY good one, so DJax has his work cut out for him if he wants to keep pace. And Boldin's first 4 seasons are actually better than Calvin's.

As for Jennings and Austin... Jennings has outproduced Calvin over the last 4 seasons in receptions, yards, and TDs, and he is the #1 WR on a team that has arguably the best QB in the NFL. Calvin's first 4 seasons are better than Jennings, but I could understand why someone might rank Jennings higher today. I do have a hard time justifying Austin over Calvin based on their production over the last 3 seasons (since Austin became a starter). But again, Austin has a better surrounding situation than Calvin.

Holmes is probably tougher to justify, but it's OK for Carter to feel Holmes is better right now. I don't agree with Cris Carter's rankings, and I have a feeling that a season or two from now Calvin would be a lot higher on Carter's list, but I don't have a huge problem with it.

 

[T with T]

He gave his best WRs in the NFL on Mike and Mike...Andre JohnsonLarry FitzgeraldGreg JenningsReggie WayneRoddy WhiteDeSean JacksonSantonio HolmesAnquan BoldinMile AustinCalvin JohnsonAs a former WR, I assume he knows WRs, but does he have it right here? Calvin at 10, behind Santonio, DJax, and Boldin?

Was he ranking from top to bottom or just giving his top 10.Andre #1 looks like a ranking but you are right Calvin so low looks bizarre and no Vincent Jackson?

He was numbering them so yes, It just seems odd the so called experts get paid to be off the wall, lol.

Frankly, the only one above Calvin that seems completely wrong to me is Austin. They're all studs at that level and Boldin is one of the most underrated WRs around FF boards.

Austin is a better route runner and has better hands and has better YAC ability so completely wrong? is it ALL about height and speed to some of you? (and i'm a calvin dynasty owner)

my friend you are completely wrong, Austin does not have better hands then Cj and he definatly is not a better YAC player then the 6-5 235 pound monster... Period, point blank Calvin is simply the best wr in the league right now, and maybe ever when its all said and done.. Jerry Rice, Moss, To never had the physical ability of Calvin and all played in better situations.

 

[geoff8695]

my friend you are completely wrong, Austin does not have better hands then Cj and he definatly is not a better YAC player then the 6-5 235 pound monster... Period, point blank Calvin is simply the best wr in the league right now, and maybe ever when its all said and done.. Jerry Rice, Moss, To never had the physical ability of Calvin and all played in better situations.

This is exactly the kind of talk that brings out the detractors...Calvin is perhaps the greatest physical talent to ever play the game. He may also have the highest ceiling of production in any given season. I think those may be fair arguments based on his measurables and on field production so far.

However, he has only proven capable of performing at an elite level, in spite of poor circumstance. He in no way, shape, or form has demonstrated that he is hands down, the best in the NFL at this point, or that he will ever rival Rice, Moss, Etc. by career's end.

Is there reason to be optimistic? Sure. But it's just as likely that Calvin will become a talented, oft injured WR trapped in the football hell that has been Detroit for much of the last decade. Let's face it, at 6'5" and almost 240 lbs. he is putting a lot of stress on his lower body, and as he ages he may break down much sooner than other great WRs in the 6'-6'3" and 200-220lbs range. Five years from now Calvin's feet, ankles, and knees may no longer agree with having to cart around such a load, before he ever has any chance at approaching HOF worthy receiving stats.

So let's be cautiously optimistic, and not sell short more accomplished current STUD WRs such as Larry Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson, who have set some pretty lofty heights for Calvin to strive for to even catch them. Let alone, all-time greats like Rice, Moss, and T.O.

 

[Raider Nation]

ALLEN PARK — ESPN analyst and former NFL receiver Cris Carter doesn’t have much respect for Lions’ wide receiver Calvin Johnson.On the "Mike & Mike" morning show last week, Carter would not rank Johnson in the top five of current NFL receivers, saying: “Calvin Johnson, he’s very, very good at ‘Madden’ or ‘Tecmo Bowl’ or whatever they're playing now. But out on the field, when I watch film and I break down the film, he’s not to the point of these guys yet. That doesn’t mean he can’t play, he’s just not there yet.’’Lions wide receiver Nate Burleson begs to differ.“I feel like right now Calvin Johnson is definitely in the top five and arguably the best receiver in the game -- at his height, his strength, his ability to jump there, aren’t too many receivers that can do what he does, period,’’ Burleson said. “His speed is incredible, he jumps a 45-inch vertical, he has huge hands, he can bench press 225, as much as linebackers.’’Carter also said there was no need to double-team Johnson.Burleson would love for opposing defensive coordinators to take that advice.“If you single cover Calvin Johnson, I guarantee we’ll win nine times out of 10,’’ Burleson said.Carter listed his top six receivers as: Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Greg Jennings, Reggie Wayne, DeSean Jackson and Roddy White.

 

[thayman]

my friend you are completely wrong, Austin does not have better hands then Cj and he definatly is not a better YAC player then the 6-5 235 pound monster... Period, point blank Calvin is simply the best wr in the league right now, and maybe ever when its all said and done.. Jerry Rice, Moss, To never had the physical ability of Calvin and all played in better situations.

This is exactly the kind of talk that brings out the detractors...Calvin is perhaps the greatest physical talent to ever play the game. He may also have the highest ceiling of production in any given season. I think those may be fair arguments based on his measurables and on field production so far.

However, he has only proven capable of performing at an elite level, in spite of poor circumstance. He in no way, shape, or form has demonstrated that he is hands down, the best in the NFL at this point, or that he will ever rival Rice, Moss, Etc. by career's end.

Is there reason to be optimistic? Sure. But it's just as likely that Calvin will become a talented, oft injured WR trapped in the football hell that has been Detroit for much of the last decade. Let's face it, at 6'5" and almost 240 lbs. he is putting a lot of stress on his lower body, and as he ages he may break down much sooner than other great WRs in the 6'-6'3" and 200-220lbs range. Five years from now Calvin's feet, ankles, and knees may no longer agree with having to cart around such a load, before he ever has any chance at approaching HOF worthy receiving stats.

So let's be cautiously optimistic, and not sell short more accomplished current STUD WRs such as Larry Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson, who have set some pretty lofty heights for Calvin to strive for to even catch them. Let alone, all-time greats like Rice, Moss, and T.O.

 

[LHUCKS]

Greg Jennings over Megatron makes Carter look like a clown.

Carter is making a point that "route running" is of paramount importance...probably because he gets validation from it, since he was a good route runner.

Sorry Crissy, you're completely transparent here.

 

[Gachi]

Anquan Boldin? Jennings? Really? All you have to do is hit him one good time, and Jackson is out like a light.

 

[Raider Nation]

Houston receiver Andre Johnson is widely regarded as the best receiver in football. He’s also the poster boy for the anti-diva wide receiver. He’s not showy or loud or arrogant. He doesn’t brag.A guest on Dan LeBatard’s radio show on 790 The Ticket in Miami, Johnson showed all that off. LeBatard: Are you the best wide receiver in football? Johnson: “No. I’m not the best [laughs]. LeBatard: “Come on who is better?” Johnson: “There’s a lot of great guys out there man. I’m a fan of the game. You look at ... I’m a big fan of Calvin. Calvin Johnson. Right now I would probably say he is the best.” Dan LeBatard: “He's taller than you?” Johnson: “He’s a pretty big guy. He’s a very talented guy. He’s my favorite guy from a fan perspective from the outside looking in.” LeBatard: Are you a top-five wide receiver? Johnson: “I’m somewhere in there.”

 

[Neofight]

Houston receiver Andre Johnson is widely regarded as the best receiver in football. He’s also the poster boy for the anti-diva wide receiver. He’s not showy or loud or arrogant. He doesn’t brag.A guest on Dan LeBatard’s radio show on 790 The Ticket in Miami, Johnson showed all that off. LeBatard: Are you the best wide receiver in football? Johnson: “No. I’m not the best [laughs]. LeBatard: “Come on who is better?” Johnson: “There’s a lot of great guys out there man. I’m a fan of the game. You look at ... I’m a big fan of Calvin. Calvin Johnson. Right now I would probably say he is the best.” Dan LeBatard: “He's taller than you?” Johnson: “He’s a pretty big guy. He’s a very talented guy. He’s my favorite guy from a fan perspective from the outside looking in.” LeBatard: Are you a top-five wide receiver? Johnson: “I’m somewhere in there.”

I just fell in love with AJ. Didn't realize he is such a down to earth dude. Honestly, when you look at these two guys and Fitzgerald, I have a hard time saying who is the best; they're all dominant. And while Calvin is probably the weakest route runner of the three, he is the most physically gifted. For my money I'd be happy with any of the from a FF perspective, but as a fan I enjoy watching CJ the most.Oh and that play one year ago against Chicago was a TD!

 

[JuSt CuZ]

When Andre says that about Calvin, that should tell you the type of player Calvin is. When the best thinks your the Best, thats a good sign.

 

[Apple Juice]

He gave his best WRs in the NFL on Mike and Mike...Andre JohnsonLarry FitzgeraldGreg JenningsReggie WayneRoddy WhiteDeSean JacksonSantonio HolmesAnquan BoldinMile AustinCalvin JohnsonAs a former WR, I assume he knows WRs, but does he have it right here? Calvin at 10, behind Santonio, DJax, and Boldin?

 

[spider321]

Calvin is the best WR in the NFL.

Whoever is second, is a distant second.

 

[Time Kibitzer]

Calvin is the best WR in the NFL.Whoever is second, is a distant second.

I won't argue that he isn't the best WR in the NFL, but I don't think whoever is second is a distant second. Although Calvin's skills as a downfield target and his ability to win jump balls are unmatched, he can still use a good bit of work on his underneath game.

 

[Lester Long]

I know 1 thing, the 1 player the Lions had to have on the field today was Johnson. he made a few bad Stafford passes into positive plays that changed the outlook of the game.

To me it is between him and Andre Johnson as who to is the best WR in football..

 

[spider321]

I honestly don't think it's close.

Andre and Larry are very good, but neither is the man among boys that Calvin is.

Calvin is head and shoulders better than any WR in the NFL today, imo.

 

[hutchins929]

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Jon Zimmer

#Lions WR Calvin Johnson is 1st player in NFL history w/2 TD catches in each of his team's 1st 3 games of a season

 

[ADP]

I honestly don't think it's close.Andre and Larry are very good, but neither is the man among boys that Calvin is.Calvin is head and shoulders better than any WR in the NFL today, imo.

This is ridiculous. If we are talking fantasy, then yes, but in terms of "best" wide receivers in football, For me, Fitz #1 & AJ #2, followed by Calvin at #3. I can see some arguments for anyone one of these guys to be #1, but to say Calvin is head and shoulders above Fitz and AJ is absurd.

 

[spider321]

I honestly don't think it's close.Andre and Larry are very good, but neither is the man among boys that Calvin is.Calvin is head and shoulders better than any WR in the NFL today, imo.

This is ridiculous. If we are talking fantasy, then yes, but in terms of "best" wide receivers in football, For me, Fitz #1 & AJ #2, followed by Calvin at #3. I can see some arguments for anyone one of these guys to be #1, but to say Calvin is head and shoulders above Fitz and AJ is absurd.

If Calvin continues to have a legit NFL QB throwing him the ball for a season or two, this will no longer be a discussion....but I will agree to disagree, for now.

 

[cmv5]

I honestly don't think it's close.Andre and Larry are very good, but neither is the man among boys that Calvin is.Calvin is head and shoulders better than any WR in the NFL today, imo.

This is ridiculous. If we are talking fantasy, then yes, but in terms of "best" wide receivers in football, For me, Fitz #1 & AJ #2, followed by Calvin at #3. I can see some arguments for anyone one of these guys to be #1, but to say Calvin is head and shoulders above Fitz and AJ is absurd.

If Calvin continues to have a legit NFL QB throwing him the ball for a season or two, this will no longer be a discussion....but I will agree to disagree, for now.

Calvin is my favorite receiver, but it will remain a discussion for quite some time. What Larry Fitzgerald did in the playoffs a few years ago with a competent qb will have me keeping him right there with the best.

 

[Chase Stuart]

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Jon Zimmer

#Lions WR Calvin Johnson is 1st player in NFL history w/2 TD catches in each of his team's 1st 3 games of a season

And to think, Rob Gronkowski almost became the second.

 

[PhantomJB]

Carter continues his idiocy by saying Calvin "good, but not elite."

“I believe there’s really four elite wide receivers,” Carter said on the Mike and Mike show. “That would be Greg Jennings, Roddy White, Larry Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson. Those guys separated themselves over the course of the last several years from the other receivers.

“Now, Calvin Johnson is playing the best football of his career. He’s getting single coverage now, he’s beating single coverage. He had double coverage in the red zone; him and (quarterback Matthew) Stafford have great chemistry together. He is playing at a top-five level, but before this season, he wasn’t better than those other four guys.”

http://www.freep.com/article/20110927/SPORTS01/110927046/ESPN-s-Cris-Carter-Calvin-Johnson-is-good-but-not-elite?odyssey=tab%7Cmostpopular%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE

 

[Ghost Rider]

Carter is out of his mind.

I think Andre Johnson is awesome, but he has never scored 10 TDs in a season, and has 27 since 2008. In that same span, Calvin has already scored 10+ TDs twice, and has 35 total since the start of 2008.

The best WRs are almost always the ones who score a lot of touchdowns. Carter should know this. He is just being stubborn and sticking to his guns. Those four guys he mentioned are all terrific as well, but to not put Megatron up there right now is just stupid. Especially since CJ has put most of those numbers up with rookie or 2nd string QBs (until this year). He hasn't had a Schaub or a Rodgers or a Ryan tossing him the rock for years now.

 

[Apple Jack]

Carter is doubling down on his preseason list is what he's doing, so he doesn't have to eat crow. He's being ridiculous.

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

Carter continues his idiocy by saying Calvin "good, but not elite."

“I believe there’s really four elite wide receivers,” Carter said on the Mike and Mike show. “That would be Greg Jennings, Roddy White, Larry Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson. Those guys separated themselves over the course of the last several years from the other receivers.

“Now, Calvin Johnson is playing the best football of his career. He’s getting single coverage now, he’s beating single coverage. He had double coverage in the red zone; him and (quarterback Matthew) Stafford have great chemistry together. He is playing at a top-five level, but before this season, he wasn’t better than those other four guys.”

http://www.freep.com/article/20110927/SPORTS01/110927046/ESPN-s-Cris-Carter-Calvin-Johnson-is-good-but-not-elite?odyssey=tab%7Cmostpopular%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE

Calvin hasn't seen single coverage since college

 

[spider321]

Carter continues his idiocy by saying Calvin "good, but not elite."

“I believe there’s really four elite wide receivers,” Carter said on the Mike and Mike show. “That would be Greg Jennings, Roddy White, Larry Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson. Those guys separated themselves over the course of the last several years from the other receivers.

“Now, Calvin Johnson is playing the best football of his career. He’s getting single coverage now, he’s beating single coverage. He had double coverage in the red zone; him and (quarterback Matthew) Stafford have great chemistry together. He is playing at a top-five level, but before this season, he wasn’t better than those other four guys.”

http://www.freep.com/article/20110927/SPORTS01/110927046/ESPN-s-Cris-Carter-Calvin-Johnson-is-good-but-not-elite?odyssey=tab%7Cmostpopular%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE

Calvin hasn't seen single coverage since college

Calvin had 8 catches for 127 yards and 3 TD's in his SECOND college game as a TRUE freshman.Trust me, Calvin didn't see single coverage after that in college either.

 

[Inspiration]

Carter continues his idiocy by saying Calvin "good, but not elite."

“I believe there’s really four elite wide receivers,” Carter said on the Mike and Mike show. “That would be Greg Jennings, Roddy White, Larry Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson. Those guys separated themselves over the course of the last several years from the other receivers.

“Now, Calvin Johnson is playing the best football of his career. He’s getting single coverage now, he’s beating single coverage. He had double coverage in the red zone; him and (quarterback Matthew) Stafford have great chemistry together. He is playing at a top-five level, but before this season, he wasn’t better than those other four guys.”

http://www.freep.com/article/20110927/SPORTS01/110927046/ESPN-s-Cris-Carter-Calvin-Johnson-is-good-but-not-elite?odyssey=tab%7Cmostpopular%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE

Calvin hasn't seen single coverage since college

Here? Or here? For what it's worth, I disagree with Cris Carter. I just dislike hyperbole.

 

[cubbie5150]

Carter is doubling down on his preseason list is what he's doing, so he doesn't have to eat crow. He's being ridiculous.

Keep stating your anti-Megatron opinions publicly, please, Mr. Carter.Signed,Megatron owners

 

[Drop]

Megatron changes the games within the game. The way you jam him at the line, the way you play underneath him, or try to get around him or try to pin him to the sideline. The little things that defenders do to neutralize players don't always apply to him because he's automatically counter exploiting them. You try to be physical with him, well you probably aren't fast enough to hang with him if you are strong enough and you probably aren't quick enough to be physical with him either, you can't hit what you can't catch. You try to keep up with him speed wise, well you probably aren't big enough to do anything when the ball does get there. The players who have to cover him know this and acknowledge it.

His size/speed/athleticism combination is unmatched and that's why he doesn't need to be as polished in certain "skill" areas as other players, he's simply on a whole different level. That's why he is truly uniquely elite. There may be some things that he doesn't do well, but he doesn't have to do those things because he can just run and jump and score instead. He's a trump card. It's just nitpicking to act like his skills aren't good enough to outplay anyone lined up against him, they are definitely good enough and he's improving. His coordination is awesome given the frame he has to move around and the speed in which he does it. He's constructed from some sort of titanium alloy so his movements just instinctively awe us because we know humans can't move like that normally. Personally when I watch his highlights I often find myself laughing. Double team him, he's still open because once that ball goes up it's not like 1 defender can stand on the others shoulders and do something about it. One guy gets boxed out by his frame and the other guy just gets outjumped. As for the route running nonsense, just watch some film of him getting in and out of his breaks. It's nuts to think his routes aren't good, his cuts kill defenders. Imagine this guy coming across your face as a DB, what can you do? You gonna move around him quickly and knock the ball away like you're taught? Well you can try, but are you long enough to actually get around him is the question. You can not approach covering him like you do normal sized human beings so the fundamentals of covering him change. Very few players can fundamentally change the way that you have to cover them, it's nearly impossible for a player to be in any sort of comfort zone when Megatron starts moving around them because of the blend of attributes he possesses.

The question now is of mental toughness and the drive to maximize talent. The ability to be clutch and rise up versus other greatness in competition. There are physically gifted athletes out there who have a better mindset than Megatron and that explains some things in terms of results on the field somewhat and I can entertain arguments coming from that standpoint. However I suspect that as his team improves his mental software will be upgraded as well, although no matter how physically gifted you are that mental part is never a given. Physically he's the closest thing on the planet to an optimal prototype that the laws of physics currently allow. So don't trip trying to isolate all the variables that come with such a complex team sport with your fancy stats, there is a reason why when you first heard his nickname was Megatron you understood instantly. So you can get into arguments about what the term "best" means, but if you're honestly objective it's going to be really hard to convince yourself otherwise given what you have witnessed if you've seen this dude play and have any clue about the value of strategic gameplay on a world class level.

 

[Dismattle]

I recently read something about the difference between Leaders and Followers. The ladder possessing a desire to be buddy buddy. Im not sure of the facts, but it wouldnt surprise me to hear every one of his teammates speak highly of his abilities.

However I would like to see more news stories related to the likes of TO. Megatron was rumored to be screaming at his Coach "Its simple get me the ball, throw it up there, its mine"

Its just one mans opinion, Calvin is #10 to him. (lets rank by number of Pro Bowls bext time?)

 

[Ping Pong]

Carter continues his idiocy by saying Calvin "good, but not elite."

“I believe there’s really four elite wide receivers,” Carter said on the Mike and Mike show. “That would be Greg Jennings, Roddy White, Larry Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson. Those guys separated themselves over the course of the last several years from the other receivers.

“Now, Calvin Johnson is playing the best football of his career. He’s getting single coverage now, he’s beating single coverage. He had double coverage in the red zone; him and (quarterback Matthew) Stafford have great chemistry together. He is playing at a top-five level, but before this season, he wasn’t better than those other four guys.”

http://www.freep.com/article/20110927/SPORTS01/110927046/ESPN-s-Cris-Carter-Calvin-Johnson-is-good-but-not-elite?odyssey=tab%7Cmostpopular%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE

Calvin hasn't seen single coverage since college

Here? Or here? For what it's worth, I disagree with Cris Carter. I just dislike hyperbole.

Carter says this like none of those guys ever face single coverage... just check out any of their highlight reels and you'll see tons of plays where they're single covered.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

not enough talk about blocking in here

 

[Short Corner]

Carter is doubling down on his preseason list is what he's doing, so he doesn't have to eat crow. He's being ridiculous.

Is he on the FBG staff?

 

[Short Corner]

not enough talk about blocking in here

feel free

 

[jon_mx]

Cris Carter is a twit, and a punk and says a lot of Moronic things... Not only having Calvin Johnson behind guys like Boldin, Santonio, Miles austin and Desean, he recently said that you don't have to double team CJ to stop him. ARE YOU SERIOUS CARTER, I mean I know you hate the lions, and obviously he is filled with haterade juice as his Vikings are gonnna be last place in the division, but that is pathetic and pure stupid for a so called NFL analyst to say them things. That is like me saying that Thomas Jones is better then Jamaal Charles right now.....

Right now, Thomas Jones is better than Jamaal Charles...

 

[Franknbeans]

Mike Wallace is better than Greg Jennings. There, I said it.

 

[Cool in the pocket]

Carter is out of his mind.

I think Andre Johnson is awesome, but he has never scored 10 TDs in a season, and has 27 since 2008. In that same span, Calvin has already scored 10+ TDs twice, and has 35 total since the start of 2008.

The best WRs are almost always the ones who score a lot of touchdowns. Carter should know this. He is just being stubborn and sticking to his guns. Those four guys he mentioned are all terrific as well, but to not put Megatron up there right now is just stupid. Especially since CJ has put most of those numbers up with rookie or 2nd string QBs (until this year). He hasn't had a Schaub or a Rodgers or a Ryan tossing him the rock for years now.

Disagree with this item for sure. This is more about opportunity imho. There is virtually no rz threat on Detroit outside of Calvin. Houston has always had a viable running game culminating in Fosters explosion last year, Fitz had Boldin...

 

[nysportsfan]

Carter is out of his mind.

I think Andre Johnson is awesome, but he has never scored 10 TDs in a season, and has 27 since 2008. In that same span, Calvin has already scored 10+ TDs twice, and has 35 total since the start of 2008.

The best WRs are almost always the ones who score a lot of touchdowns. Carter should know this. He is just being stubborn and sticking to his guns. Those four guys he mentioned are all terrific as well, but to not put Megatron up there right now is just stupid. Especially since CJ has put most of those numbers up with rookie or 2nd string QBs (until this year). He hasn't had a Schaub or a Rodgers or a Ryan tossing him the rock for years now.

Disagree with this item for sure. This is more about opportunity imho. There is virtually no rz threat on Detroit outside of Calvin. Houston has always had a viable running game culminating in Fosters explosion last year, Fitz had Boldin...

Pettigrew is a decent threat, but yeah, Calvin is the go to guy down there.

 

[beerbarron]

Carter continues his idiocy by saying Calvin "good, but not elite."

“I believe there’s really four elite wide receivers,” Carter said on the Mike and Mike show. “That would be Greg Jennings, Roddy White, Larry Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson. Those guys separated themselves over the course of the last several years from the other receivers.

“Now, Calvin Johnson is playing the best football of his career. He’s getting single coverage now, he’s beating single coverage. He had double coverage in the red zone; him and (quarterback Matthew) Stafford have great chemistry together. He is playing at a top-five level, but before this season, he wasn’t better than those other four guys.”

http://www.freep.com/article/20110927/SPORTS01/110927046/ESPN-s-Cris-Carter-Calvin-Johnson-is-good-but-not-elite?odyssey=tab%7Cmostpopular%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE

Calvin hasn't seen single coverage since college

Here? Or here? For what it's worth, I disagree with Cris Carter. I just dislike hyperbole.

The Viking DB that was supposed to provide help deep or double cover CJ bit on the under route.. leaving calvin one on one which led to the catch to help win the game..