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Curtis Lofton and NE's Generous Scoring of his Tackles (1 Viewer)

RommelDAK

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This week I had a tough choice at LB2. I have Patrick Willis, and so he’s a no brainer, but if you look in my signature you’ll see I have some pretty decent linebackers behind him. And, to this point in the season, I’m still not real sure who I can trust.

I went with Curtis Lofton for two reasons: when NE won in week one, they gave their opponent tons of tackle opportunities (thanks, Larry, for the Excel spreadsheet on that!), and the official scorer in NE is notoriously generous with assists. I got lucky this week and picked the right guy. Lofton had 13 solos and 6 assists...or did he?

I was watching the game live and I have to say that I wasn’t too happy after the first NE drive. I thought maybe Lofton had two or three stops. But, I had a quick look at Yahoo Sports, and damn if he wasn’t already at the 7 tackle mark!!! I was really curious and since I had DVRed the game, I went back and had another look at that first drive. I thought you all might be interested.

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PATRIOTS DRIVE #1, PLAYS WHERE LOFTON GOT A TACKLE

1-10-NE 16 (9:18) 12-T.Brady pass short left to 34-S.Morris to NE 35 for 19 yards (54-S.Nicholas, 50-C.Lofton).

Morris was already clearly on his way to the ground. All Lofton really did was make sure he got there faster!

3-1-NE 44 (7:58) 34-S.Morris up the middle to NE 45 for 1 yard (98-J.Anderson, 50-C.Lofton).

Big pile of bodies in the middle of the line. It did look like Lofton was one of those who grabbed Morris, but it was very hard to tell.

1-10-NE 45 (7:21) 39-L.Maroney right end to 50 for 5 yards (29-B.Williams, 50-C.Lofton).

Another play were the runner was clearly already on his way to the ground. Lofton didn’t contribute anything.

2-5-ATL 23 (5:15) 39-L.Maroney left guard to ATL 18 for 5 yards (29-B.Williams, 50-C.Lofton).

Lofton piled on after Maroney was already headed to the ground.

1-15-ATL 23 (4:08) (Shotgun) 33-K.Faulk left tackle to ATL 16 for 7 yards (50-C.Lofton).

Nice job–came off a block and got him.

3-1-ATL 9 (2:51) 12-T.Brady up the middle to ATL 7 for 2 yards (50-C.Lofton).

Another huge pile of bodies, though Lofton may well have been in on it.

3-5-ATL 5 (1:25) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short middle to 33-K.Faulk to ATL 3 for 2 yards (50-C.Lofton, 26-E.Coleman).

Lofton nailed him and probably should have been awarded a solo rather than an assist.

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So, by my count, Lofton could have easily ended that drive with no more than four tackles (removing the plays where the runner was on his way to the ground already) and maybe even just two (if we also take out the big pile ups where it was hard to say who was responsible for the tackle.

As I mentioned above, one of the reasons why I decided to start Lofton was the NE scorer’s reputation for giving lots of assists, so I’m definitely not disappointed or surprised. However, I found it interesting to go back and have a look at exactly where the generosity played a role. Based on this very small sample size, it looks like in NE, if you grab a guy who is already falling to the ground, they give you an assist. Good news for those of us who started Lofton this week!

 
Wow thank you scorekeeper, you certainly helped me out this week.
NE is not alone in this and while I wish it were not true it has been going on for longer than most of us have been playing this game.Assists are the culprit as they are usually the most inconsistant stat out there. Since we can't fix it, use it to your advantage.
 
Stat corrections come out every Wednesday or Thursday, right? It's always possible he will have a couple taken away.

I guess they have people reviewing film, just like you were doing.

But hey, if he's getting a lot of assist credits, it means he's around the ball a lot. And that translates to "real" stats eventually.

 
I don't think they bother to correct tackles. But, as ffchamp says, ain't nothing we can do about it, so use it! I avoid starting players playing at Atlanta, KC, Jacksonville, and St. Louis for this very reason (although, having said, that, I own LB's that play for three fo those teams--start 'em on the road!).

Here's that official-scorer thread, by the way:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=332835

 
The Falcons as a whole had a ton of assists. I have learned over the years that when a Semicolon is put between the 2 players name, such as (Peterson; Lofton), both guys will get an assist but when there is a comma between the 2 players names that a solo will be given to the 1st player listed and an assist to the 2nd player listed. When the semicolon is used you get 1 solo 13 assist games like Brushci used to get.

By the way I had Ray Lewis this past week and the scorer was so stingy on assists. The Ravens as a team had 2-3 total assists. It was very frustrating when I see other games in which assists are handed out so easily. However, the Ravens play in New England this week so I am hoping it evens out for me.

 
Sacks are official stats and reviewed by the NFL. I don't think forced fumbles are official stats, but both plays are tied to tackles. Every defensive play (and every forced fumble play) is not reviewed to determine whether the correct players were awarded tackles.

 
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Every defensive play (and every forced fumble play) is not reviewed to determine whether the correct players were awarded tackles.
Did you mean to put the "not" in that sentence?
Yes.I think the NFL only reviews sacks, since they're an official stat. My guess is that the forced fumble changes were on sack plays, but I may be wrong there. If forced fumbles are an official stat, they'd be reviewed as well. I'm almost certain that the NFL does not review every tackle play. For instance, I wouldn't expect any of the six "team" tackles awarded to the Raiders this week will be given to their rightful owners.

 

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