QB Rating for 2007 - 2013Interested to see the terms, but I like it for the Bears. As a Jets fan who is 39 years old, I can't tell you what a chore and constant let down it is to shuttle QBs in and out every couple of years. Sure, the guy is not Drew Brees or Peyton Manning, but he also isn't Matt Schaub or Mark Sanchez.
I get your point, but I would take it with a grain of salt...no one's rating is going to look particularly good with the OC carousel he has dealt with (including two years with Mike Martz).QB Rating for 2007 - 2013Interested to see the terms, but I like it for the Bears. As a Jets fan who is 39 years old, I can't tell you what a chore and constant let down it is to shuttle QBs in and out every couple of years. Sure, the guy is not Drew Brees or Peyton Manning, but he also isn't Matt Schaub or Mark Sanchez.
Schuab 90.9
Cutler 84.4
you're right, he isn't Matt Schuab
give up? he was injured.I actually think this was a good move for the Bears as there just isn't anyone better available right now. That's not saying much... But 7 years??
I watched him pout on the bench while I was freezing my ### off at the Green Bay/Chicago NFC Championship game and was in awe of how he could give up like that in the biggest game of his career. I figured he would be out of football. Amazing how things turn out...
It's a sad day indeed to be a Bears fan (sigh).It's like Christmas hasn't ended for Packers fans!
If you want to re-evaluate in 3 years, why not just sign McCown for less and devote that money to making the Defense actually good again?As a bears fan I'm glad. The biggest argument for doing this is, who would you sign if it wasn't cutler? There's no qbs out there. Pay the man, draft a kid in middle rounds and let him learn trestmans system and reevaluate in 3 yrs.
McCown. For less than half of whatever they gave Cutlet.The biggest argument for doing this is, who would you sign if it wasn't cutler?
Saving money at qb and spending elsewhere never works. This was a great deal for the Bears.If you want to re-evaluate in 3 years, why not just sign McCown for less and devote that money to making the Defense actually good again?As a bears fan I'm glad. The biggest argument for doing this is, who would you sign if it wasn't cutler? There's no qbs out there. Pay the man, draft a kid in middle rounds and let him learn trestmans system and reevaluate in 3 yrs.
He is something like 1-8 against them.This is a great signing. Cutler finally has WRs and OL and a TE next to him, like all good QBs need (see Brady?). As for fudge packer fans being happy, I am LOLing....Cutler just shredded their team for 28 pts and would have won if we had any kind of defense.
you guys made me laugh during theseason, but now iit's just annoying.McCown. For less than half of whatever they gave Cutlet.The biggest argument for doing this is, who would you sign if it wasn't cutler?
I don't know how to respond to this it's so idiotic.This is a great signing. Cutler finally has WRs and OL and a TE next to him, like all good QBs need (see Brady?). As for fudge packer fans being happy, I am LOLing....Cutler just shredded their team for 28 pts and would have won if we had any kind of defense.
The NFL standings beg to differ. CIN, SEA, SF, PHI, ARI, KC all put up double digit wins. Signing Cutler to a longterm deal is a great way to be around 500 for the next few years. I question if that's what you want and whether that's significantly more than McCown would give you.Saving money at qb and spending elsewhere never works. This was a great deal for the Bears.If you want to re-evaluate in 3 years, why not just sign McCown for less and devote that money to making the Defense actually good again?As a bears fan I'm glad. The biggest argument for doing this is, who would you sign if it wasn't cutler? There's no qbs out there. Pay the man, draft a kid in middle rounds and let him learn trestmans system and reevaluate in 3 yrs.
Those are rookie dealsThe NFL standings beg to differ. CIN, SEA, SF, PHI, ARI, KC all put up double digit wins. Signing Cutler to a longterm deal is a great way to be around 500 for the next few years. I question if that's what you want and whether that's significantly more than McCown would give you.Saving money at qb and spending elsewhere never works. This was a great deal for the Bears.If you want to re-evaluate in 3 years, why not just sign McCown for less and devote that money to making the Defense actually good again?As a bears fan I'm glad. The biggest argument for doing this is, who would you sign if it wasn't cutler? There's no qbs out there. Pay the man, draft a kid in middle rounds and let him learn trestmans system and reevaluate in 3 yrs.
Exactly, and before anyone says, "well, just build your team and draft a rookie and ride him before his 2nd contract", I present Geno Smith.Those are rookie dealsThe NFL standings beg to differ. CIN, SEA, SF, PHI, ARI, KC all put up double digit wins. Signing Cutler to a longterm deal is a great way to be around 500 for the next few years. I question if that's what you want and whether that's significantly more than McCown would give you.Saving money at qb and spending elsewhere never works. This was a great deal for the Bears.If you want to re-evaluate in 3 years, why not just sign McCown for less and devote that money to making the Defense actually good again?As a bears fan I'm glad. The biggest argument for doing this is, who would you sign if it wasn't cutler? There's no qbs out there. Pay the man, draft a kid in middle rounds and let him learn trestmans system and reevaluate in 3 yrs.
Alex Smith is a rookie? Carson Palmer is a rookie?Those are rookie dealsThe NFL standings beg to differ. CIN, SEA, SF, PHI, ARI, KC all put up double digit wins. Signing Cutler to a longterm deal is a great way to be around 500 for the next few years. I question if that's what you want and whether that's significantly more than McCown would give you.Saving money at qb and spending elsewhere never works. This was a great deal for the Bears.If you want to re-evaluate in 3 years, why not just sign McCown for less and devote that money to making the Defense actually good again?As a bears fan I'm glad. The biggest argument for doing this is, who would you sign if it wasn't cutler? There's no qbs out there. Pay the man, draft a kid in middle rounds and let him learn trestmans system and reevaluate in 3 yrs.
Further, the teams used low cost veterans as an entry way. All the teams but the Bengals. The Bengals were the only one who said yeah that guy we took in the 2nd round is our guy and ran with him.Alex Smith is a rookie? Carson Palmer is a rookie?Those are rookie deals
It's true that no strategy is 100% successful especially in a zero-sum game of W-L. Not every team can win.DaveL said:Ten: signed a vet (Hasselback), drafted a qb in the early 1st
Min: signed a vet (McNabb), drafted a qb in the early 1st
some works, some don't. For every Andy Dalton, there's a Brandon Weeden and Blane Gabbert.
The Bears thought they were better off having an above average qb with their weapons on offense, and they'll draft defense. It's a strategy, it has worked in the past.
Seriously. People want to castrate rg3 for playing in the Seattle playoff game with an injury, then coming back to soon...but Cutler sits with an MCL and he's a coward and a pansy. I hate people.give up? he was injured.I actually think this was a good move for the Bears as there just isn't anyone better available right now. That's not saying much... But 7 years??
I watched him pout on the bench while I was freezing my ### off at the Green Bay/Chicago NFC Championship game and was in awe of how he could give up like that in the biggest game of his career. I figured he would be out of football. Amazing how things turn out...
I agree with this (only two teams gave up more points than the Bears), but my concern with Cutler is his durability. He's missed 12 games that past 3 seasons and turns 31 next year.Not sure what the issue is with all the people who would have not re-signed Cutler. According to NFL.com, the Bears offense was 8th in overall Offense, 5th in passing, and tied for 2nd with NE for most points scored. Only Denver scored more. What more do you want from the offense? We need to focus on improving the Defense and making it younger and deeper in talent. Selecting a QB at 14 is a waste of a pick, especially when most of the QBs worth taking that high will most likely already be off the board. Many of the teams picking ahead of us are is need of a good QB more than the Bears. Defensive End and Safety are our biggest needs. With an average D, I really believe we could have contended. The problem is that we fell way short of being average.
have to agree. Cutler is a real nfl qb. Not a great one, but certainly better than average. Good enough. If he would finally learn some footwork and quit trying to make throws with just his arm, he could be great.Saving money at qb and spending elsewhere never works. This was a great deal for the Bears.If you want to re-evaluate in 3 years, why not just sign McCown for less and devote that money to making the Defense actually good again?As a bears fan I'm glad. The biggest argument for doing this is, who would you sign if it wasn't cutler? There's no qbs out there. Pay the man, draft a kid in middle rounds and let him learn trestmans system and reevaluate in 3 yrs.
YeahLimp Ditka said:Alex Smith is a rookie? Carson Palmer is a rookie?flapgreen said:Those are rookie dealsThe NFL standings beg to differ. CIN, SEA, SF, PHI, ARI, KC all put up double digit wins. Signing Cutler to a longterm deal is a great way to be around 500 for the next few years. I question if that's what you want and whether that's significantly more than McCown would give you.Saving money at qb and spending elsewhere never works. This was a great deal for the Bears.If you want to re-evaluate in 3 years, why not just sign McCown for less and devote that money to making the Defense actually good again?As a bears fan I'm glad. The biggest argument for doing this is, who would you sign if it wasn't cutler? There's no qbs out there. Pay the man, draft a kid in middle rounds and let him learn trestmans system and reevaluate in 3 yrs.
And every loss except one was with Hester, Johny Knox, Roy Williams etc at WR; Kellen Davis at TE and a complete mess at OL. You are too stupid to figure it out but what is new.He is something like 1-8 against them.This is a great signing. Cutler finally has WRs and OL and a TE next to him, like all good QBs need (see Brady?). As for fudge packer fans being happy, I am LOLing....Cutler just shredded their team for 28 pts and would have won if we had any kind of defense.
LOL all you want.
yes because drafting a QB works so well - Tim Couch; Akili Smith; Ryan Leaf; Christian Ponder; David Carr; Sam Bradford; Jamarcus Russell etc - I can go on.I would have drafted a QB, they pick high enough to get a good one, UCF kid maybe, John Football? Rolled with McCown for another year. Now, how are they going to improve a bad defense if all their money is in the QB. Jeffery is as good as gone with is next contract.
I dont really care, I just enjoy the fact the dropped all that money and 7 years on that average QB. Reminds me of Will Farrel in Wedding Crashers when he is talking about the guy who dies hang-gliding...."what an idiot!"
Now I just hope Big Ben stays in the Burgh his whole career and doesnt chase a 3 year $60M deal to finish with some loser team.(I think he stays btw).