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You make a mess of every argument you start. I won't get into that one again.
Never said that^^
Not a myth, they really shouldn't. They can, but they shouldn't. The link you showed was a response to Diabetics asking if they can drink. Go back and read it. Not how much they should, or whether they should at all. It's obviously posed by the ADA for those Diabetics that want to drink and are looking for answers.
I hate to beat a dead horse but you are wrong. I think pretty much others have proven this to be true but I would hate for false information to be spread about diabetes mellitus. First Type 1 and Type 2 are not an indication of the severity of the disease but rather a way to characterize causes of the disease. Type 1 diabetics are called type 1 because they have a genetic disorder which leads to a deficiency of insulin. Type 2 diabetics are called type 2 because they have developed a sensitivity or resistance to insulin. However a type 2 diabetic can have a more severe disease state than a type 1 diabetic.
Wrong. Yet again. You can't get over that point. I can 100% assure you that if they SHOULDN'T drink, then the ADA would say as much. You can't seem to get that through your head. It is your OPINION they shouldn't drink and there is absolutely NO MEDICAL EVIDENCE that supports your opinion. If there was, then the ADA would NOT be saying it's ok to have up to 2 drinks/day. Guaranteed. It's not obviously posed for anything. If they felt that it was doing harm, then they would say "The ADA does not recommend any alcoholic intake". You're amazing in your persistence to continue to spew untruths as truths.
Wrong. Yet again. Link confirming the above statement in bold?
PFT reported they were taken out, scrubbed, and put back in with more clarity to imply that he wasn't FOOTBALL savvy and something something drinking.
They were. I saw that 3 hours ago. Would have been nice if they hadn't been included to begin with.
ah...well thankfully we can rely on PFTs impecible reporting accuracy.
This is a GREAT opportunity for you to say something along the lines of "hmm, I didn't realize all that. Maybe I was wrong about alcohol consumption and diabetes. I hope that Cutler is mature enough to follow the guidelines set for him."
Yes, it seems that you can.http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/27/...-on-fox31-blog/
I think maybe you should read the original post a little slower:
can you point to me the part where the fox reporter stated he's out getting drunk and acting irresponsibly ? Or maybe there's another story somewhere that you are referring to?
I find doing so every bit as helpful as a Senator doing a medical evaluation of Terri Schiavo during a congressional session. Carolina Huster is our own Bill Frist.
Dumb and dumber like seeing their names in print.
I am coming late to the party here as I just got back from vacation. I drink all the time and I have been a Type 1 for 32 years, I take four insulin shots a day and check my blood 6 times a day. You can do whatever you want with diabetes as long as it is in moderation and you watch your blood sugar. I drank probably 8 beers yesterday throughout the day--but I followed the rules where you consume food and/or water with the alcohol and my blood sugar was 141 before going to bed. My last A1c numbers are not perfect 6 to low seven range, but they are fair from being even remotely bad.
I respect this information and everyone's opinion. This didn't start out as a debate about diabetes. Was more about whether or not Cutler was doing the responsible thing with his condition and alcohol. Maybe he is... We'll probably not know unless he's caught out somewhere getting hammered.I may be more sensitive to the issue than others since I've been through so much. It just makes sense to me that if someone has a disease that typically attacks the liver and kidneys then they would avoid behavior that also can do damage. Like people who have asthma or emphysema smoking cigarettes. Or people with high cholesterol not eating right. I'm not trying to paint a bad picture for diabetics that drink. I guess it's more of a personal opinion, based on what I've seen happen to people I love.
For the money he's receiving, I'd say #### and get to practice.
I guess Jay Cutler has never lied...He needs to grow up and get over himself if this is the way he's thinking.This is all about money.... Not about "He lied to me"... I bet a fat new contract would make it all better...
The amount he's "receiving" is roughly half of what his backup will earn absent bonuses and incentives.Your suggested "action plan" reminds me of the old story about the woman at the cocktail party. A man approaches her and asks if she'll sleep with him for a million dollars. She says, "sure." He says, "Well, would you aleep with me for $5?" She responds, "Of course not! What kind of girl do you think I am?" He replies, "We've already established what kind of girl you are. Now we're just haggling about the price."How you're treated matters regardless of how much you're paid.
What would I tell my son if he was in a similar situation? keep lines of communication open, act like a grown man, be mature about it, and get on with life. You play the cards your'e dealt, and how you respond to difficult times is a strong reflection of character - don't be a jackass. That's what I'd say, but I'm not much of a coddler.
That reminds candymanvandyfan of an old story that has no relevance whatsoever.
"Have a decent job lined up before you quit."
That's a pretty good answer, I think, especially if my son were reliant on his job to make ends meet or something. I'd probably throw in something about there being dishonest people in the world and that we can't always spot them immediately, but essentially I would say the same thing. I would encourage him to meet his commitments to his employer and not slack off until ties were broken formally. There are a lot of things to do in the world. There are a lot of people and companies to work for. Find something you can do really well that you think is worthy of your time and talents. Do it for someone who will recognize your talents, appreciate your hard work and service, reward your results and celebrate your achievements. Hard to know without being in that situation, but my son would have to be pretty hungry in a culture of very bad employment options before I encouraged him to let his employer continue to disrespect him through dishonesty in return for money.fatness said:
Well, there's always McDonald's.
Wasn't Cutler complaining about someone else lying?
let me be clear with my position - Jay Cutler is a fantasticly talented QB, in the mold of a gun-slinging QB ala Elway and Favre. He can make the impossible possible. In the right circumstances, he has the potential to be one of the top QB's in the league. If he has a coach willing to let Cutler improvise and work out side the system, he can and will do great things - he will also do some terrible things too - that's the nature of QB's like that. There will be maddening interceptions, and fantastic TD's. Guys like that make football fun to watch.Josh McDaniels is working to institute a different brand of football - a departure from the previous 25 years of Bronco football. It's a pretty significant philosophy change, and mirrors what was successful in NE. For McD, the QB is simply a cog in the machine - one of 22 starting players. a QB's responsibility is not to make magic happen, but to take what the defense gives you. It may not be as exciting, but this philosophy may have better long term success.
So given all this, which I agree with (although I'm not sure it's the smartest approach for McD or Bowlen to take. You really should coach to your talent, considering that it's much easier to change a coach than all or most of 53 players. But I digress), isn't it entirely possible that McD and Bowlen have wanted to push Cutler from the beginning? Isn't it almost likely that McD came in, sold Bowlen on what you posted above, and said that Cutler would have to go? So they try to trade him secretly and quickly. But once that falls through, they engage in a media war with him because they don't want to have him back. So they make him look like the bad guy, which given his disposition isn't that hard. And they do stupid #### like the throwback jersey with his name on the back and all kinds of stuff like that. Stuff that would piss off just about any young player, although maybe not as easily as Cutler. If that's how it went down, McD/Bowlen decided Cutler didn't fit their team going forward, then why all the hate toward Cutler?
19 now.
better keep posting because the other thread is catching up fast...13+ and counting in 2 days...19 now.
32 pages between 2 threadsbetter keep posting because the other thread is catching up fast...13+ and counting in 2 days...19 now.
. Please trade this guy so we can end the misery
what else are we going to talk about in March? combine times and mock drafts can only go so far...32 pages between 2 threadsbetter keep posting because the other thread is catching up fast...13+ and counting in 2 days...19 now.
. Please trade this guy so we can end the misery
This thread is only 10 pages for me.go to http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...rCP&CODE=04 , and set the number of posts per page to be 100, and you will be all set.19 now.
Because Cutler has handled this terribly. Again - I think that Cutler has been on Bowlens wrong side since January, but I don't think that there was some pre-planned conspiracy to move Cutler before McD was hired, and I don't think that was part of the plan that McD presented when he came on board. I'm sure that McD, like the rest of us, assumed Cutler would fall in line with what he wanted to do and play nicely. Yeah, he screwed up with the Cassel thing, I won't give him a pass on that, but since that all went down, I can't fault him for anything that he's done. From what I've been reading, he's done everything he can to reach out to Cutler.I fault Cutler for not being willing to work this out. He is being very stubborn and inflexible - he has refused to meet with McD without Bus, for example. He's not returning phone calls, for another. It took two parties at fault for this mess to escalate to the point it is; it will take two parties working together to resolve. Cutler is not willing to work to resolve, instead he wants to force his way out of town.ConstruxBoy said:
I agree with most of what you're saying at this point. My only question is, in relation to the sentence I quoted above:Why is this a bad thing? I still don't understand why it's bad for Cutler to not want to resolve this and want to leave town? Not everyone can get along with everyone. Not everyone can be happy in certain spots. Why is it bad or wrong for Cutler to want to leave Denver? Why is it bad or wrong on his part to not be happy with what happened and not feel comfortable remaining? Why is it his responsibility to return the calls and make up and bring it back the way it was if HE DOES NOT WANT TO?I mean, geez, there are players that simply want to get out of situations they don't like. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But I don't get why it's a bad thing to want to do so. What if an episode happens at your work that you don't feel you can get over? Why should you be expected or required to work things out if all you really want to do is leave. This thinking boggles my mind. I'm not absolving Cutler from blame in this situation. He most definitely has his fair share as does Bowlen and McDaniels. What I don't understand is this thinking that, since McDaniels and Bowlen want to make it better at this point in time, why does Cutler have to agree to it?
Anakin Skywalker turned to the dark side of his own free will, because he wanted to. He was in a situation he did not like, and made his choice. his choice all but exterminated the Jedi's, and sent the Republic into a generation of darkness.I'm a Bronco fan first and a FF guy second. Cutler forcing his way out of town is an insult directly to my favorite team, and could possibly set this team back for years. Cutler was supposed to be THE ONE - the one who could restore order to the AFCW (and knock the Chargers off their block). Cutler choosing this path has potential to send the Broncos into a long-term tailspin.I'm #1208 in line for Bronco season tickets. There's a good chance my # will get called this year. I've been on this list for about 10 years, but currently live in South Carolina. I was thinking of going ahead and getting the tickets, flying to Denver for a game or two a season, and selling the rest. If this whole deal goes bad and the Broncos are in full-blown re-building, I really don't think I'll be able to move the tickets for face value, especially in this economy. So, the timing of this whole mess just might kill my dream of owning Bronco Season Tickets, and that irks me to no end. Yeah, I'm a little bitter.
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