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[Please See Mine]

Howard making a strong push. A couple more games like last night, and he might just do it. Get that average up to .260 with 50 HR's and 145 RBI, how could you ignore that?

 

[Pyscho Wife]

Howard making a strong push. A couple more games like last night, and he might just do it. Get that average up to .260 with 50 HR's and 145 RBI, how could you ignore that?

 

[Ghost Rider]

Howard making a strong push. A couple more games like last night, and he might just do it. Get that average up to .260 with 50 HR's and 145 RBI, how could you ignore that?

He is currently hitting .249. He is basically a one-dimensional offensive player, and let's not forget how mediocre he is defensively. If he won the MVP with that putrid of an average (.260 would still be putrid), it would be a complete joke.

 

[Please See Mine]

Howard making a strong push. A couple more games like last night, and he might just do it. Get that average up to .260 with 50 HR's and 145 RBI, how could you ignore that?

He is currently hitting .249. He is basically a one-dimensional offensive player, and let's not forget how mediocre he is defensively. If he won the MVP with that putrid of an average (.260 would still be putrid), it would be a complete joke.

Assuming he gets 50 more at bats, he'd need 20 hits to get to .260.Although it would be the lowest average ever for an MVP winner, I'm not sure what difference it really makes if the guy knocks in 145. He is lifting the team when it needs him the most. Is that not more important than his average?

 

[Hammered Finz]

Howard making a strong push. A couple more games like last night, and he might just do it. Get that average up to .260 with 50 HR's and 145 RBI, how could you ignore that?

He is currently hitting .249. He is basically a one-dimensional offensive player, and let's not forget how mediocre he is defensively. If he won the MVP with that putrid of an average (.260 would still be putrid), it would be a complete joke.

if by one-dimentional you mean run producing, I'll take .260 50/145 any day

 

[Ghost Rider]

Howard making a strong push. A couple more games like last night, and he might just do it. Get that average up to .260 with 50 HR's and 145 RBI, how could you ignore that?

He is currently hitting .249. He is basically a one-dimensional offensive player, and let's not forget how mediocre he is defensively. If he won the MVP with that putrid of an average (.260 would still be putrid), it would be a complete joke.

Assuming he gets 50 more at bats, he'd need 20 hits to get to .260.

Okay, but I am not sure why anyone would think that a guy who has hit .249 with 575 ABs is suddenly going to reel off a .400 average over 50 ABs. If Howard were good enough to hit .400 over the span of 50 ABs, he wouldn't be hitting .249.

Although it would be the lowest average ever for an MVP winner, I'm not sure what difference it really makes if the guy knocks in 145. He is lifting the team when it needs him the most. Is that not more important than his average?

The MVP is for the whole season, not for "best player down the stretch."

Howard making a strong push. A couple more games like last night, and he might just do it. Get that average up to .260 with 50 HR's and 145 RBI, how could you ignore that?

He is currently hitting .249. He is basically a one-dimensional offensive player, and let's not forget how mediocre he is defensively. If he won the MVP with that putrid of an average (.260 would still be putrid), it would be a complete joke.

if by one-dimentional you mean run producing, I'll take .260 50/145 any day

Pujols has still been far more valuable. His batting average is over 100 points higher than Howard's (!!!!!!), and the Cardinals were in the race for the entire season. It is not Pujols' fault that the bullpen blew over 30 saves and that injuries cripped the team down the stretch. And don't give me that "His team won't be in the playoffs" line, as Howard won the MVP two years ago when his team didn't make the playoffs.

 

[Hammered Finz]

Howard making a strong push. A couple more games like last night, and he might just do it. Get that average up to .260 with 50 HR's and 145 RBI, how could you ignore that?

He is currently hitting .249. He is basically a one-dimensional offensive player, and let's not forget how mediocre he is defensively. If he won the MVP with that putrid of an average (.260 would still be putrid), it would be a complete joke.

Assuming he gets 50 more at bats, he'd need 20 hits to get to .260.

Okay, but I am not sure why anyone would think that a guy who has hit .249 with 575 ABs is suddenly going to reel off a .400 average over 50 ABs. If Howard were good enough to hit .400 over the span of 50 ABs, he wouldn't be hitting .249.

Although it would be the lowest average ever for an MVP winner, I'm not sure what difference it really makes if the guy knocks in 145. He is lifting the team when it needs him the most. Is that not more important than his average?

The MVP is for the whole season, not for "best player down the stretch."

Howard making a strong push. A couple more games like last night, and he might just do it. Get that average up to .260 with 50 HR's and 145 RBI, how could you ignore that?

He is currently hitting .249. He is basically a one-dimensional offensive player, and let's not forget how mediocre he is defensively. If he won the MVP with that putrid of an average (.260 would still be putrid), it would be a complete joke.

if by one-dimentional you mean run producing, I'll take .260 50/145 any day

Pujols has still been far more valuable. His batting average is over 100 points higher than Howard's (!!!!!!), and the Cardinals were in the race for the entire season. It is not Pujols' fault that the bullpen blew over 30 saves and that injuries cripped the team down the stretch. And don't give me that "His team won't be in the playoffs" line, as Howard won the MVP two years ago when his team didn't make the playoffs.

I'm not disagreeing with you- They really need to re-name the award from most VALUABLE to most outstanding, and open it up to all players- not just ones whose teams make the playoffs.

Howard still has MVP numbers, at least on the run-producung side

 

[Please See Mine]

Howard making a strong push. A couple more games like last night, and he might just do it. Get that average up to .260 with 50 HR's and 145 RBI, how could you ignore that?

He is currently hitting .249. He is basically a one-dimensional offensive player, and let's not forget how mediocre he is defensively. If he won the MVP with that putrid of an average (.260 would still be putrid), it would be a complete joke.

Assuming he gets 50 more at bats, he'd need 20 hits to get to .260.

Okay, but I am not sure why anyone would think that a guy who has hit .249 with 575 ABs is suddenly going to reel off a .400 average over 50 ABs. If Howard were good enough to hit .400 over the span of 50 ABs, he wouldn't be hitting .249.

Are you aware that in his last 49 AB's, he has 20 hits? And he is hitting .360 since August 24.Last year he had 18 hits in his last 53 AB's and hit .340 from August 24 on.In 2006, he had 15 hits in his last 50 AB's and hit .395 from August 24 on.So I don't think that it is that crazy to suggest that he will continue this hot streak again.I can appreciate Pujols, and it is fair to say that he has been more consistent, but I think that Howard will get it if he continues this run.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Batting average:

Pujols .357

Howard .249

HRs:

Howard 45

Pujols 33

RBIs:

Howard 136

Pujols 101

Slugging:

Pujols .645

Howard .537

OBP:

Pujols .461

Howard .335

OPS:

Pujols 1.106 (which is 200 points higher than the guy in second place!)

Howard .873

Walks:

Pujols 95

Howard 74

Strikeouts:

Pujols 51

Howard 190

Runs scored:

Howard 95

Pujols 91

Double and Triples combined:

Pujols 42

Howard 28

Hits:

Pujols 175

Howard 143

Howard has great HR and RBIs and nothing else. He is like a glorified version of Dave Kingman. I just don't see how the Phillies having a much more reliable closer and being a more healthy team somehow makes Howard more valuable than a guy who is having one of the best offensive seasons we have ever seen (and this is not even taking into effect that Howard is a subpar fielder, while Pujols is a favorite to win the Gold Glove again).

 

[Ghost Rider]

Are you aware that in his last 49 AB's, he has 20 hits? And he is hitting .360 since August 24.

So you think the MVP should go to a guy who was hitting .220ish for the first five months of the season, all because of a hot September? Interesting.

 

[Please See Mine]

Are you aware that in his last 49 AB's, he has 20 hits? And he is hitting .360 since August 24.

So you think the MVP should go to a guy who was hitting .220ish for the first five months of the season, all because of a hot September? Interesting.

Nice job taking that out of context.You asked what would make me believe that he could hit .400 in his last 50 AB's. I responded to that.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Are you aware that in his last 49 AB's, he has 20 hits? And he is hitting .360 since August 24.

So you think the MVP should go to a guy who was hitting .220ish for the first five months of the season, all because of a hot September? Interesting.

Nice job taking that out of context.You asked what would make me believe that he could hit .400 in his last 50 AB's. I responded to that.

I wasn't taking it out of context. I was demonstrating that Howard was a .220 hitter for 80% of the season. If he has been a .400 hitter lately, that is fine and I stand corrected, but the fact remains that he was a terrible overall hitter for most of the season, so just because he got hot late does not mean he should receive MVP consideration over players who have been consistently very good to great for the whole season. Again, the MVP award is for the whole season, not just the last five or six weeks.

 

[wilked]

Howard would be a joke as MVP

lol at the guys who watch ESPN home run highlights thinking he is deserving....Pooholes is MUCH superior to Howard, it is really not close at all

 

[Nigel Incubator-Jones]

OPSujols 1.106 (which is 200 points higher than the guy in second place!)Howard .873

Chipper is second at 1.038. 200 points?

 

[Txns8]

CY:

NL: Lincecum hands down over Webb. In virtually the same # of IP's, Lincecum kills Webb in ERA and K's as well as leads him slightly in WHIP. As with my AL CY pick, he's working his magic on a horrible team.

AL: Lee hands down. Halladay has pitched well, but 22-2 is hard to ignore on that horrible team.

MVP:

NL: Pujols hands down. While Howard is making a late charge, pure power numbers only earn you the MVP when it is a down year. Pujols has been huge since April, and while his team is now off the radar, he's not shutting down.

AL: Hamilton in a close one. This is probably a homer pick, but I'll make it and skip the analysis.

 

[wadegarrett]

AL: Lee hands down. Halladay has pitched well, but 22-2 is hard to ignore on that horrible team.

28-17 since Aug. 1 w/out Sabathia, Martinez, Hafner, & Blake. Not to mention Carmona and Byrd. Not bad for a "horrible team".

 

[the moops]

AL: Hamilton in a close one. This is probably a homer pick, but I'll make it and skip the analysis.

Hamilton in no way deserves any top 3 votes for MVP.He was MVP of the first half. But his HR, RBI and SLG have all dropped significantly in the 2nd half. He went from what looked like a 50+ HR and 150+ RBI guy, to a 35 HR, 130 RBI guy.Those are not gaudy enough numbers for a player on a team that is 3 games below 500. Also considering there are 2 other players on his team that are as valuable (Kinsler and Bradley).And especially when there are great MVP candidates in Mauer, Morneau,and Pedroia.I would probably vote1 Mauer2. Pedroia3. Morneau4. Hamilton5. Sizemore6. Youkilis7. Quentin8. Huff9. Bradley10. ARodMost of these are off the top of my head. The order after the top 2 should probably be different.

 

[ahmngrn30]

Giving an MVP award to a player on a non playoff team is terrible btw. A number 5 starter for a playoff team is more valuable than a 1.500 OPS gold glove SS on a non playoff team.

 

[the moops]

Giving an MVP award to a player on a non playoff team is terrible btw. A number 5 starter for a playoff team is more valuable than a 1.500 OPS gold glove SS on a non playoff team.

A number 5 starter is basically a replacement player. He has no value. Don't be ridiculous.

 

[Ghost Rider]

OPSujols 1.106 (which is 200 points higher than the guy in second place!)Howard .873

Chipper is second at 1.038. 200 points?

My bad.

Giving an MVP award to a player on a non playoff team is terrible btw. A number 5 starter for a playoff team is more valuable than a 1.500 OPS gold glove SS on a non playoff team.